IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 10 January 2020 (all times are UTC)
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| 14:03 | <douglas_br> hello
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| 14:08 | I have linux mint ltsp server, now it ups but do not accept login and password in client side
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| 14:16 | <||cw> douglas_br: which ltsp version/guide are you using?
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| 14:17 | <douglas_br> from official site ltsp
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| 14:17 | linux mint 19.3 64 bits
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| 14:18 | https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/
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| 14:19 | pnp mode, 2 NICs
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| 14:20 | <||cw> there's probably changes you'll need to make on mint's configs, I'd suggest installing on ubuntu and getting familiar with it first, then trying to make it work on mint
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| 14:20 | you can install Cinnamon and MATE on ubuntu if that's why you're using mint
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| 14:24 | <douglas_br> Humm right! I would like use MInt because the good and nice visual. I think get ubuntu mate to test it
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| 14:27 | Mint is not good choice to use in ltsp?
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| 14:27 | <mwalters> haven't heard of anyone using ltsp w/ Mint, so you're venturing into the unknown
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| 14:28 | seems like most folks use debian and ubuntu, which is what development seems to primarily target
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| 14:29 | <douglas_br> oh, right
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| 14:29 | <||cw> douglas_br: ltsp is very dependent on specific configs, if a distro does something different it has to be handled. I'm sure pull requests to add mint support would be welcome, it's just not where development effort is being spent currently
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| 14:32 | <douglas_br> right ||cw
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| 14:38 | right! I will download ubuntu mate and test. at finish 2019 we make ltsp lab with french distro voyager and works nice. maybe I use the same
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| 14:48 | thanks for help (y) (y)
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> douglas_br: the new ltsp doesn't care much about distributions and configs, it should work fine on mint
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| 15:45 | Can you login if you switch to vt1, with ctrl+alt+f1?
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| 15:46 | Personally I've tested with a "tara-cinnamon" vm that I have as an ltsp client, I'm not sure how recent that one is
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| 15:48 | That I/O error that you see in the screenshot could be related to networking issues
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| 15:48 | Do you have epoptes installed?
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| 16:09 | <douglas_br> alkisg sorry I was out. The version of my Mint is tricia (last version) with mate
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| 16:09 | yes I have epoptes
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| 16:10 | <alkisg> douglas_br: let's do a quick vnc if you want, as I don't have a lot of time...
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| 16:10 | !vnc-edide
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| 16:10 | <ltspbot> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 16:10 | <alkisg> Do this ^ from the server...
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| 16:15 | <douglas_br2> epopets open but not find the vnc conmection
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> Try this: x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 16:17 | douglas_br2, you have segfaults on the server, due to your realtek inic
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| 16:17 | nic
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| 16:18 | That's why the client doesn't work and shows I/O errors and disconnects from epoptes
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| 16:18 | As a test, try to exchange the two NICs, put the atheros one to face the ltsp clients, and put the 192.168.67.1 IP to the atheros etc
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| 16:19 | <douglas_br2> right
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| 16:20 | thanks so much
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| 16:32 | <douglas_br2> alkisg not works
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| 16:35 | <alkisg> Does it have power? Is the screen turned on? :D
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| 16:35 | Doesn't work ... doesn't describe the problem :)
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| 16:35 | Did the client boot, and did it get the same errors?
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| 16:36 | <douglas_br2> sorry, client boot now and before but users can not login
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| 16:36 | <alkisg> Do you see the client in epoptes?
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| 16:37 | <douglas_br2> no, only the screen login at my side from client
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| 16:37 | <alkisg> Do a VNC to me again
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| 16:37 | x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 16:40 | douglas_br2, remember that mint is a broken distribution; whenever you need to install software, use "--install-recommends"
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| 16:41 | Now you installed epoptes without recommends, so without epoptes-client
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| 16:41 | Let's wait until ltsp image finishes now, then reboot the client
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| 16:41 | <douglas_br2> yeah
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| 16:45 | <alkisg> douglas_br2, OK reboot the client
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| 16:46 | <douglas_br2> ok
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| 16:50 | <alkisg> douglas_br2, the same problem again
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| 16:50 | You installed ltsp without recommends, so you didn't have sshfs
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| 16:50 | I hope that's the only one still missing...
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| 16:51 | It would be better to uninstall all these packages, then install them again with --install-recommends
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| 16:51 | Mint is really broken in that part
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| 16:51 | <douglas_br2> or switch
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| 16:52 | other distro
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| 16:52 | <alkisg> I told you my opinion about Mint many times in the past, but you keep trying it ;)
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| 16:52 | The best distributions are those that have 100+ developers
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| 16:52 | I.e. Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOS...
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| 16:52 | <douglas_br2> you right
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| 16:54 | alkisg to you no lost time let choice another distro ubuntu
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| 16:54 | <alkisg> Whatever you like; when ltsp image finishes, reboot the client, it might just work
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| 16:55 | Or just go ahead and delete mint... whatever you like
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| 16:56 | <douglas_br2> let see
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| 16:59 | now works
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| 17:00 | <alkisg> Yeah afaik mint just needs the --install-recommends when installing programs
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| 17:00 | It's broken in various other parts, but it shouldn't have ltsp-specific issues
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| 17:01 | <douglas_br2> can be not secure for proffisional use day
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| 17:02 | <alkisg> I think it does have some security issues, like not allowing kernel updates even for known CVEs, yeah
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| 17:02 | They only allow kernel updates when they think so, even if those are ubuntu kernels by ubuntu developers
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| 17:03 | It's a very messy and hackish distribution
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| 17:05 | <douglas_br2> humm okay alkisg in this case mint not good option thank you for help ever
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| 17:07 | <alkisg> douglas_br2, all those small distributions that you're trying are usually worse than even mint
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| 17:07 | If you really care more about security etc than the wallpapers, then select a big distro, not the small ones
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| 17:12 | <douglas_br2> yes, you are right, I will download ubuntu mate and start a new install
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| 17:13 | ohhhh can be ubuntu mate
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| 17:18 | <douglas_br> ok
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| 20:37 | <dgroos> And hi again. Still tracking down the problem that students can't do google searches with google chrome. It happened a couple times today on Firefox, too.
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| 20:38 | <dgroos> However, I can go to a webpage directly, no problem.
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| 20:40 | Following up on @vagrantc's idea that maybe there was some bad interaction between multiple dns servers
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| 20:41 | <dgroos> I thought I could test this by only using 1 dns server at a time. Network manager says I've got the district dns server (10.x.x.x) and 8.8.8.8
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| 20:42 | But in the ipv4 settings of network manager I've not set 8.8.8.8 in either of the 2 NICs
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| 20:43 | On /usr/share/ltsp/server/dnsmasq/ltsp-dnsmasq.conf it has: dhcp-option=option:dns-server,0.0.0.0,8.8.8.8,208.67.222.222
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| 20:44 | but... I don't have the 208... show in nm. Not sure where to go to try eliminating 8.8.8.8 (and maybe 208... and 10...) Ideas?
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| 20:51 | <alkisg> dgroos: network manager says that for the server; dnsmasq.conf is for the clients, not the server
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| 20:58 | `sudo ltsp dnsmasq --dns-server=10.x.x.x` should do it
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| 20:58 | <dgroos> @alkisg, OK, then I'll just put the 1 dns there at a time, I can do that :-) I guess I don't run service restart networking then.
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| 20:59 | <alkisg> After running ltsp dnsmasq, reboot the clients
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| 20:59 | If you manually edit the file, you'd need to restart dnsmasq on the server
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| 20:59 | If you run ltsp dnsmasq, it's done automatically
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| 21:00 | <dgroos> One of those treats built into ltsp :-) , thanks @alkisg , I'll get back...
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| 21:04 | (ummm... i don't use the single quotes, right?)
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| 21:05 | <alkisg> It's the same with or without them
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| 21:05 | * alkisg needs to go; ciao for now... | |
| 21:06 | <dgroos> thanks @alkisg bye
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