IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 1 February 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:34 | <SEEVTar> I'm setting up Ubuntu 12.04 from the alternate disk with ltsp I've got two network interfaces is the primary one the one that connects to the switch?
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| 07:40 | I think I got it
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| 07:41 | <dievel> Should be eth0 the one to the local network and eth1 to the thin client network.
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| 08:26 | <Hyperbyte> mhmmm
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| 08:26 | Good morning. :)
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| 09:00 | <dievel> Good morning :)
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| 09:06 | <muppis> Better than yesterday. :)
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| 09:08 | <SEEVTar> Ok dievel thanks it's up and working first start :-)
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| 09:38 | <alkisg> !nbd-client
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| 09:38 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 09:49 | <Enslaver> anyone alive/awake?
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| 09:49 | <alkisg> :)
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| 09:49 | <Enslaver> alkisg!
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| 09:50 | You are actually the person I wanted to talk to =), I have a spec file for you to look at, got a sec?
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| 09:50 | <Hyperbyte> Wow
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| 09:50 | <Enslaver> can you just glance it over and let me know if you notice something that doesnt belong
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| 09:50 | <Hyperbyte> Enslaver, burning the midnight oil? :)
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| 09:50 | <Enslaver> I dont sleep
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| 09:51 | <Hyperbyte> Ah.
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| 09:52 | <Enslaver> Or if i could figure out how to make launchpad work :)
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| 09:54 | <Hyperbyte> I think Launchpad already works.
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| 09:54 | ;-)
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| 09:57 | <Enslaver> OUTPUT: created package ltsp-5.4.4-1.20130201.03.el6.src.rpm
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| 09:57 | OUTPUT: created package ltsp-client-5.4.4-1.20130201.03.el6.x86_64.rpm
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| 09:57 | OUTPUT: created package ltsp-debuginfo-5.4.4-1.20130201.03.el6.x86_64.rpm
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| 09:57 | OUTPUT: created package ltsp-release-5.4.4-1.20130201.03.el6.x86_64.rpm
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| 09:57 | OUTPUT: created package ltsp-server-5.4.4-1.20130201.03.el6.x86_64.rpm
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| 09:59 | * alkisg reminds Enslaver that he's never used anything RPM-based, and has never seen spec files :) | |
| 10:04 | <knipwim> and i wonder what ltsp-debuginfo is
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| 10:08 | <Enslaver> Alkisg: i know your no spec file wiz but can you go through it and point out if my locations of all the files are correct, and let me know if any files have been deprecated/changed?
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| 10:09 | <knipwim> Enslaver: i can help you with that also
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| 10:09 | but not now, because i'm at work
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| 10:10 | probably tonight at the earliest
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| 10:10 | <Enslaver> k can i just email it to you and have you look over it later?
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| 10:11 | <alkisg> Enslaver: sure, put it to pastebin, and me and knipwim will have a look in case we can see anything out of place...
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| 10:12 | <Enslaver> pastebin is a website im guessing?
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| 10:16 | <alkisg> !pastebin
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| 10:16 | <ltsp> pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 10:21 | <knipwim> the quick course is tarting already :)
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| 10:21 | erm, starting'
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| 10:21 | <Enslaver> so ascii pron is ok right?
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| 10:22 | <alkisg> Sure, as long as it's ltsp-related...
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| 10:22 | (!!!)
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| 10:23 | <Hyperbyte> LTSP-related ASCII porn
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| 10:23 | That I'd want to see.
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| 10:40 | <Enslaver> See how thin the client really is?
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| 10:43 | <Hyperbyte> :-D
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| 10:44 | <muppis> Is it a friday or something?
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| 10:46 | <Hyperbyte> I do believe it is!
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| 10:53 | <Enslaver> pastebin.com/YRFM3Pit
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| 10:53 | I think i did that right
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| 10:56 | <alkisg> BuildRequires: tftp-server ?
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| 10:56 | To build the package? Not just "Requires"?
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> For package descriptions, I think it'd be best if all distros used the same description
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| 10:57 | It makes translations easier
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| 10:57 | Maybe we can all take the debian packages as a template?
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| 10:57 | And if we don't like them, tell vagrantc to change them?
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| 10:58 | <Enslaver> It isn't a top down re-write of the spec, i took it from warren
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| 10:59 | I just need to make sure theres nothing outdated in there
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> The "install" stuff should be smaller
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| 11:00 | The "share/ltsp" dirs are supposed to get copied as is
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| 11:00 | So there shouldn't be a need to list the files inside them one by one
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| 11:03 | <Enslaver> k
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| 11:03 | Also note I incorporated ltsp-core back in, whats the status of that?
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| 11:04 | is that pretty standard across distros?
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| 11:05 | <alkisg> An initscript is needed to fire up the ltsp SCREENs
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| 11:05 | Debian renames that to ltsp-client-core, Ubuntu uses an upstart job, ltsp-client.conf
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| 11:05 | ...so yeah ltsp-core sounds fine
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| 11:06 | *ltsp-client-core.conf in ubuntu
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| 11:13 | <Enslaver> k
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| 11:15 | <Enslaver> I am having the hardest time packaging ldm :/
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| 15:11 | <JuJuBee> I am trying to configure minicom in chroot. However, there seems to be no /dev/ttyS0 in my chroot? I am connecting to a router to configure it.
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| 15:16 | <Hyperbyte> JuJuBee, what kind of computer lab do you have?
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| 15:16 | Is it for Cisco training purposes?
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| 15:17 | <jammcq> JuJuBee: that's because /dev/ttyS0 won't be there until the serial device is detected at boot time
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| 15:18 | I think there's an option to ltsp-chroot to tell it to use the /dev from the host
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| 15:18 | ltsp-chroot --mount-dev
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| 15:18 | <jammcq> something like that
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| 15:19 | yeah, that works on mine
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| 15:23 | <JuJuBee> Hyperbyte: yes, I teach the Cisco Academy curriculum
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| 15:23 | jammcq: ok
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| 15:24 | Another question... some of my students are not able to logout. Some use unity some use plasma
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| 15:25 | jammcq: so I would need to do that if I wanted to run minicom from inside chroot on the server? I notice that on the clients /dev/ttyS0 is there
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| 15:32 | jammcq: in order to use minicom, I need to give users access to /dev/ttyS0 so if I mount it to chroot then set rw on that port will it retain it image when it boots?
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| 15:39 | <JuJuBee> What exactly does --mount-dev do? just mount for the session? or does it tell the chroot to mount them all the time?
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| 15:48 | <jammcq> JuJuBee: yes, it just mounts it for that session of running chroot
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| 15:49 | and setting the perms on /dev/ttyS0 while in the chroot will NOT remain next time you go in or when you boot the thin client
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| 15:49 | device nodes are created at boot time via udev
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| 15:50 | so anytime you change perms, it will be forgotten next time you boot
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| 15:50 | why not just add the user to the 'dialout' group and then they should have access to that dev node
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| 15:56 | <Hyperbyte> jammcq, using fat clients, I don't think that will help, will it?
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| 15:56 | The group membership on the server shouldn't transfer to the client, should it?
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| 15:57 | I mean, it should, but I didn't think LTSP did that?
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| 15:58 | <jammcq> Hyperbyte: umm, I dunno how user auth works for fat clients
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| 15:58 | but ultimately, the user must be known on the thin client for his thing to work
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| 16:00 | and if group membership doesn't make it's way to a fat client, i'd consider that a bug
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| 16:05 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm, well, maybe it does? I dunno.... I kind of assumed that would be problematic with group ID's varying
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| 16:10 | <JuJuBee> Figured it out. Working now.
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| 16:11 | All I really needed to do what add my users to the dialout group now they can access ttyS0
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| 16:13 | Group membership made it to the client. How do I know if they are fat or thin?
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| 20:09 | <cliebow> !seen sbalneav
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| 20:09 | <ltsp> sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 3 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 23 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <sbalneav> i.e. need anything from me?
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| 20:09 | <jammcq> hey chuck
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| 20:11 | <cliebow> Hi Jim!!
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| 20:11 | what are you building these days?
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| 20:12 | <jammcq> not much, although i've been hanging around here alot more.
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| 20:12 | <cliebow> i havnt been in much..I have a steady diet of macbooks to fix...
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| 20:13 | troubleshooting..working on the Tremon Historical photos
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| 20:14 | whats cooking in ltsp??
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> well... i've been so far out of it for so many years, I didn't really know how it worked anymore
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| 20:15 | so for the last few weeks, i've been looking very closely at the inner workings, and i'm pretty impressed
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| 20:15 | <cliebow> i had a small grasp at one time...waiting my time til they figure out one to one in schools is too pricey
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| 20:16 | i can tell you how many btoken screens and liquid spills ive replaced
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| 20:16 | err cant
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| 21:00 | <cliebow> homeward bound...
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| 22:36 | <Enslaver> How would I go about debugging LDM segfaults? I'm trying to get the latest trunk working and packaged on EL6
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| 22:36 | The only way I know how to debug something like that is gdb
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| 22:45 | <vagrantc> actual segfaults?
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| 22:45 | or just crashes?
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| 22:55 | <Enslaver> segfaults
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| 22:59 | im also seeing some messages "nc: getaddrinfo: Name or service not known"
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| 23:02 | http://snag.gy/QyW9Y.jpg
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| 23:05 | <vagrantc> Enslaver: does /etc/hosts contain an entry for "192.168.47.x server"
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| 23:05 | <Enslaver> no
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| 23:05 | thats odd
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| 23:06 | thats made through init-ltsp.d correct?
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| 23:08 | It doesnt look as though those are getting run on my x86_64 chroot, they work on my other one
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| 23:16 | <vagrantc> Enslaver: the nc call is probably trying to download the ldminfod information from "server"
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| 23:17 | <Enslaver> k, that explains that one, but with LDM shouldn't the gui still start even if it can't talk to the server?
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| 23:17 | <vagrantc> yes, it should start
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| 23:19 | <Enslaver> I think i found the issue with the getaddrinfo one, i had SERVER=server there
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| 23:20 | <vagrantc> SERVER=server is valid, as long as "server" resolves to something.
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| 23:28 | <Enslaver> server.local would
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| 23:30 | <vagrantc> then try with SERVER=server.local
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| 23:30 | <Enslaver> Yeah just did, the /etc/hosts isn't getting updated for whatever reason
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| 23:31 | Gotta figure out whats different on my 2 chroots
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| 23:32 | <vagrantc> it should happen in init-ltsp.d/09-hostname
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