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Channel log from 5 June 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:35 | <masterm> hello guys. i have this weird problem with ltsp 5. i'm running the version shipped with ubuntu 10.04. the server is amd64 but thin client chroot is i386. everything works fine (thin client boots over NBD without problems) but when i try to log in after hearing the logon sound Xorg seems to crash on thin client and I'm back at ldm prompt.
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| 04:37 | what is more when I press ctrl+alt+f1 to go into console my monitor says that this resolution is not supported but *only* if I do that after trying to log in. before logon attempt the text console works fine
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| 04:39 | <masterm> what I have observed is when I hit enter after the password prompt in ldm and quickly press ctrl+alt+f1 before GNOME is starting to show up the thin client logs on fine. and then when I switch back to Xorg it crashes and I'm losing VT1 too like I've said
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| 04:40 | the thin client is pretty old hardware. it has 800Mhz VIA cpu (i386), 256mb ram and an S3 ProSavage video adapter
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| 04:41 | I don't know what configuration details are relevant here so feel free to ask. I will appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.
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| 04:42 | and btw. I've checked every possible log and no error message of any kind shows up
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| 04:53 | <alkisg> !compiz
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| 04:53 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 04:53 | <alkisg> masterm: you may want to try this for starters ^^^
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| 04:53 | Also check the user's ~/.xsession-errors
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| 04:54 | <masterm> alkisg: thanks a lot. will give it a try.
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| 11:15 | <rwmarch> A Ubuntu user here with an LTSP-5 issue.
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| 11:23 | <rwmarch> Returned to login screen after apparently successful authentication
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| 11:27 | <rwmarch> Some users are returned to login screen on thin client after apparently successful authentication
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| 15:14 | <rwmarch> Some users are returned to login screen on thin client after apparently successful authentication. Help would be appreciated.
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| 15:20 | <alkisg> rwmarch: check ~/.xsession-errors, and also compiz:
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| 15:20 | !compiz
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| 15:20 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 15:26 | <rwmarch> From ~/.xsession-errors
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| 15:26 | drkonqi: cannot connect to X server localhost:11.0
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| 15:26 | 05/06/2010 04:10:24 PM Autoprobing TCP port in (all) network interface
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| 15:26 | 05/06/2010 04:10:24 PM Listening IPv{4,6}://*:5900
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| 15:26 | 05/06/2010 04:10:24 PM Autoprobing selected port 5900
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| 15:26 | 05/06/2010 04:10:24 PM Advertising security type: 'TLS' (18)
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| 15:26 | 05/06/2010 04:10:24 PM Advertising authentication type: 'No Authentication' (1)
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| 15:26 | 05/06/2010 04:10:24 PM Advertising security type: 'No Authentication' (1)
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| 15:26 | vino-server: Fatal IO error 2 (No such file or directory) on X server localhost:11.0.
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| 15:26 | Does this give a hint?
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| 15:27 | <Appiah> O_o
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| 15:27 | dont past that much in chan
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| 15:28 | you got some vncserver installed there?
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| 15:28 | "vino-server"
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| 15:30 | <rwmarch> Yes. Synaptic shows the vino package installed.
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| 15:30 | <Appiah> well what's it doing there trying to launch a vnc session for your ltsp users?!
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| 15:30 | pastebin your lts.conf
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| 15:31 | <rwmarch> I dunno. I have not used VNC. I will pastebin lts.conf.
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| 15:39 | <johnny> ah.. it's kde
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| 15:39 | try with gnome..
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| 15:39 | rwmarch, you're not trying to log into a user that you're also logged into the server are you?
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| 15:40 | <rwmarch> http://pastebin.com/h9tfPszv for the lts.conf.
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| 15:42 | KDE? I am using gnome. Ubuntu Lucid 10.4 LTS alternate CD install.
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| 15:42 | <johnny> on.. what's that drkonqi thing..
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| 15:42 | seem to be missing some line breaks there..
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| 15:43 | also.. try without the X_VIDEORAM
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| 15:43 | <alkisg> That's not all on the same line, is it?
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| 15:44 | And SCREEN_07 = LDM should be lowercase, SCREEN_07=ldm
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| 15:44 | <rwmarch> No. Problem user not logged in elsewhere, although it is possible to log in in more than one location for the user that is functioning OK.
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> There's one user that is functioning OK and another that is not?
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| 15:45 | <johnny> no.. it's not a good idea to login as one user multiple location
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| 15:45 | for example.. firefox will puke
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| 15:45 | * alkisg has finally implemented teacher screen broadcasting. Goodbuy iTalc, you won't be missed :) | |
| 15:46 | <alkisg> *bye
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| 15:46 | <rwmarch> Line breaks got dropped in the pasting somehow. will try without X_VIDEORAM (which is called for by disklessworkstations.com.
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| 15:49 | Correct. One particular user - no problem. userid 1000. The problem users are additional users subsequent to system install. And once in awhile a problem user will successfully complete a login.
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| 15:54 | <alkisg> Try that compiz-disabling line above, it might work for you.
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| 15:58 | <rwmarch> Removed X-VIDEORAM and restarted thin client no fix. The terminal is one of Mr MacQuillam's T1220 units. Will de-activate compiz
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| 16:02 | Is there an error in the compiz commandline above? I got "Couldn't find the XML root directory in the address `xml:readwrite' "
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| 16:07 | <johnny> doubtful
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| 16:07 | as it's been used by tons of people
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| 16:08 | <rwmarch> Revised lts.conf at http://pastebin.com/5tzPgyUq
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| 16:34 | <rwmarch> Occasionally a problem user will login successfully. See .xsession-errors for a successful login at: http://pastebin.com/XjpztjUY
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| 16:35 | The same user failed moments later: http://pastebin.com/njBZAL7k
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| 16:38 | <alkisg> Did you try that compiz line?
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| 16:39 | <rwmarch> Still working on it. Pasting the above commandline failed.
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| 16:39 | <alkisg> What exactly did you type?
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| 16:39 | (paste)?
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| 16:40 | <rwmarch> sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 16:40 | <alkisg> You have a space instead of :
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| 16:40 | Try copy/pasting again
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| 16:40 | !compiz
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| 16:41 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 16:41 | <alkisg> readwrite:/etc <=== that :
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| 16:41 | <rwmarch> OK. I misinterpreted the embedded smiley. Got you now.
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| 16:42 | Done. Will test.
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| 16:47 | Seems to be fixed. Over several attempted sessions for the problem users, all logins succeeded. Thank you very much for helping me.
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| 16:48 | <alkisg> You're welcome. It'd be much faster if not for the smiley :)
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| 16:48 | <rwmarch> Right on.
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| 16:50 | <rwmarch> Now what is compiz. A windowing enhancement? How will life be without it. ;-)
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| 16:50 | Why did compiz not effect one user? How to re-instate it in the future?
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| 16:50 | <johnny> that one user had better drivers
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| 16:51 | the pc that is
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| 16:51 | understated enhancements mostly
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| 16:51 | at least by default
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| 16:51 | like the menus kinda pop
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| 16:51 | and the way they fade into view
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| 16:51 | <alkisg> (or he had selected "none" in the appearance dialog effects tab previously)
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| 16:51 | <johnny> or out of it
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| 16:53 | <rwmarch> Three users on the system - 1000, 1001, and 1002. All set to none in the appearance dialogue. Never a problem for user 1000 to login on the terminal.
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| 16:54 | <alkisg> rwmarch: by default, there's no selection in that dialog. That's *different* than selecting none.
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| 16:54 | So a new user has compiz enabled by default.
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| 16:55 | <rwmarch> Are you saying that the appearance dialogue has nothing to do with compiz? I do not understand.
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| 16:55 | <alkisg> cat /home/username/.gconf/desktop/gnome/session/required_components/%gconf.xml
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| 16:55 | Do that for all 3 users (you'll need a "sudo" in front of it)
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| 16:56 | If it says "metacity" in that file, then that user was using metacity instead of compiz, that's why he didn't have a problem.
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| 17:00 | <rwmarch> For the non-problematic user, it says metacity. For the both of the problem users, %gconf.xml does not exist. Could that be?
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> Yes, it's what I'm trying to say
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| 17:02 | That user had selected "none" in the effects tab
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| 17:02 | The other 2 users had not selected anything.
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| 17:11 | <rwmarch> Even though the problem users showed "none" selected in appearances before I had disabled compiz. . Attempting now to select other than "none" for a problem user fails (presumably because compiz is disabled). Right?
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| 17:14 | <rwmarch> Well, thank you very much for giving of your time to me. One more step along the road from OpenSUSE and LTSP-4.2 towards Ubuntu and LTSP-5. Thank you.
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| 17:15 | <alkisg> rwmarch: the command you run made the setting mandatory
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| 17:15 | So *now* all the users show "None" in that tab, can that can't be changed
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| 17:15 | *Previously* the "None" bullet was *not* selected for those 2 users.
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| 17:16 | (i.e. no bullet was selected at all)
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| 17:16 | That dialog is a little misleading. No bullet selected means "compiz". If one selects the "None" bullet, it means "metacity".
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| 17:17 | But now that you've made that setting mandatory, all users will have the "None" bullet preselected.
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| 17:17 | <rwmarch> Gee. I thought I recalled that I had looked at them earlier, before de-activating compiz, to see if they were the same settings as the non-problem user. I thought that I saw the none bullet filled. Maybe I am wrong.
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| 17:19 | Have you seen this compiz issue before? Am I the one and only?
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| 17:19 | <alkisg> Nah, many people have been bitten by it
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| 17:20 | (that's why it was the first thing I mentioned to you :))
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| 17:20 | Anyway, time to go, goodnight all.
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| 17:21 | <rwmarch> If I re-instate compiz, then I can explicitly set "none" for each and every user?
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| 17:21 | If so, how to re-enable compiz.
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| 17:21 | <alkisg> Sure, you just need to delete that setting. Run sudo gconf-editor and then select "show a mandatory window" and delete that setting
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| 17:21 | (or directly edit the /etc/gconf.d/mandatory etc file)
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| 17:21 | bb
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| 17:21 | <rwmarch> OK, thanks for your time.
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