IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 November 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:24 | <muppis> Can I somehow calculate needed diskspace during image build?
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| 15:12 | <matrix3000> can't wait till thanksgiving
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| 15:12 | :)
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| 15:14 | <Ghidorah> Hello everyone, does anyone know if you can specifiy a Application server for a specific terminal in LTSP-Cluster?
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| 15:15 | <Gadi> Ghidorah: just set LDM_SERVER for that Group or workstation
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| 15:15 | <Ghidorah> oh duh
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| 15:15 | Thank you for the fast response!
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| 15:15 | How was the LTSP Conference?
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| 15:27 | <Gadi> Ghidorah: LTSP-BTS is ALWAYS a good time - and this year was absolutely fabulous
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| 15:28 | Ghidorah: I have some youtube videos, if you are interested
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| 15:28 | :)
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| 15:28 | * alkisg wants Scotty's drinking songs | |
| 15:28 | <Ghidorah> I've already watched a few. Seemed to have some alcohol involved...
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| 15:29 | <Gadi> no alcoholics were hurt in the making of those videos
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| 15:29 | ;)
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| 15:29 | <Ghidorah> heheh
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| 15:33 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 15:55 | <jammcq> sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 15:56 | <lifeboy> If I have a display driver problem on an ltsp client and the screen keeps on initialising every 5-10 seconds, which process to I stop in the console (screen 0) to inspect what's going on?
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| 15:56 | It's not ldm, startx or xdmcp
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> pkill -STOP ldm
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| 15:57 | ...or any else of the others
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| 15:57 | This way you pause it so it doesn't even get killed
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| 15:58 | You can also set SCREEN_07=shell in lts.conf, and try `X -configure` there
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| 16:01 | <lifeboy> alkisg: There's something that keeps spawning the attempted xsession repeatedly.
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| 16:02 | I did the SCREEN_07=shell and rebooted the client.
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> !nomodeset
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| 16:15 | <ltsp> alkisg: nomodeset: Unfortunately, Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) doesn't work well with some cards. To disable it, open /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset".
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> lifeboy: here's a possible cause for X crashing ^
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| 17:55 | <Ghidorah> Does anyone have epoptes installed in the chroot? If so, are you able to lock the terminal screen?
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| 17:59 | <alkisg> Ghidorah: yes to both
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| 17:59 | <Ghidorah> Dang, I must have something misconfigured.
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| 18:00 | <alkisg> Ghidorah: need help? which DE are you using?
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| 18:00 | <Ghidorah> DE?
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| 18:00 | <alkisg> Desktop environment, gnome, kde etc
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| 18:00 | Ghidorah: btw, client locking *only* works after logon
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| 18:00 | <Ghidorah> gnome
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| 18:00 | I have LTSP-Cluster, 3 app servers.
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| 18:00 | Epoptes server is on 1 app server
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| 18:00 | the client is in the chroot
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| 18:01 | <alkisg> Ah /me needs to put some instructions for -cluster in the web page
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| 18:01 | You need to change /etc/default/epoptes-client to the app servers
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| 18:01 | and put SERVER=app-server-ip there
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| 18:01 | <Ghidorah> hrmm
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| 18:01 | <alkisg> Then logoff/logon the clients
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| 18:01 | <Ghidorah> I only installed epoptes on one app server
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| 18:02 | and I pointed
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| 18:02 | <alkisg> Ah moment
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| 18:02 | I'm confused by the -cluster names
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| 18:02 | <Ghidorah> the config file to that server in chroot
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| 18:02 | <alkisg> What's the main server name? Root server?
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| 18:02 | You have one NBD server and many application servers, right?
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| 18:03 | <Ghidorah> correct
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| 18:03 | <alkisg> The NBD server should have epoptes-client installed
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| 18:03 | <Ghidorah> the epoptes is not on the root
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| 18:03 | <alkisg> (==in the chroot)
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| 18:03 | <Ghidorah> ok that is done
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| 18:03 | <alkisg> Then, you may have epoptes-client installed in the application servers as well
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| 18:03 | If you only have it on 1 application server, you'll only be able to control those clients after logon
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| 18:04 | Where did you install the server/GUI part?
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| 18:04 | In that same application server?
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| 18:04 | <Ghidorah> on app serve (named white) I ran apt-get install epoptes
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| 18:05 | in the chroot I ran the apt-get install epoptes-client
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| 18:05 | <alkisg> OK. Your setup is weird and server autodetection doesn't work
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| 18:05 | So all you need to do is notify epoptes about the server you're using
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| 18:05 | <Ghidorah> I see the client
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| 18:06 | <alkisg> You *don't* see the clients before logon, do you?
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| 18:06 | <Ghidorah> I just can't do anything but reboot the terminal from epoptes
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| 18:06 | As the terminal is booting
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| 18:06 | the terminal will appear in the epoptes windo
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| 18:06 | window*
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| 18:07 | <alkisg> What's your nbd server name?
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| 18:07 | <Ghidorah> black
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| 18:07 | <alkisg> Do you have X installed in black? Do you login there?
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| 18:07 | <Ghidorah> No X installed on black
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| 18:07 | <alkisg> Did you modify /etc/default/epoptes-client in the chroot?
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| 18:07 | <Ghidorah> yes
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| 18:07 | <alkisg> To set the server=white ?
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| 18:07 | Ah, ok
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| 18:08 | Now you need to do the same in /etc/default/epoptes-client on white itself
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| 18:08 | <Ghidorah> SERVER=white
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| 18:08 | ok
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| 18:08 | will do
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| 18:08 | <alkisg> You may put "localhost" there if you want
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| 18:10 | Logoff/logon the clients and you should be ok. No reboot should be necessary.
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| 18:17 | <Ghidorah> alkisg: are there any logs that epoptes generates?
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| 18:18 | <alkisg> Ghidorah: yes, epoptes logs to /var/log/syslog, and epoptes-client to stderr, which goes to ~/.xsession-errors, unless if you start it from a terminal
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| 18:18 | Ghidorah: on the client, open a terminal and run `/usr/sbin/epoptes-client`, and paste the output here
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| 19:05 | <lifeboy> alkisg: I added "nomodeset" but it doesn't help. If LDM_SYSLOG = true is set, then should I have a /var/log/ldm.log on my server? I have sysklogd set to accept remote logging.
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| 19:05 | <alkisg> lifeboy: did you try X -configure?
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| 19:05 | LDM can't really do anything if you can't get X running
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| 19:06 | <lifeboy> Yes, it configures the card and when I test it blanks the screen, but never finishes initialising the X display
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| 19:07 | <alkisg> Right, so forget about ldm, your problem is with xorg
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| 19:07 | <lifeboy> I suppose I have to debug that on the client...
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| 19:07 | <alkisg> How much RAM does your client have?
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| 19:07 | <lifeboy> 1GB
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| 19:08 | <alkisg> Try to boot it with some live usb stick
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| 19:08 | <lifeboy> It work's fine if I do
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| 19:09 | I'm supposed to use the fbdev xorg driver, which I pressume is causing the problem
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| 19:09 | That's according to the manufactur\
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| 19:09 | er, manufacturer
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| 19:10 | <alkisg> You need to put that option in the live usb stick to boot with it?
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| 19:12 | <lifeboy> Yes, I can do that. It's an SDCard that it boots from with the RDC driver, but that driver is old and buggy and Norhtec recommend that I don't use it but rather fbdev
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| 19:12 | Let me see if they have anything further before I waste your time
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| 20:55 | <Ghidorah> alkisg: Thank you for your help earlier.
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| 20:55 | I think it is all working now
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| 20:55 | <alkisg> Ghidorah: cool, are you seeing thumbnails, are you able to lock screens and everything?
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| 20:55 | <Ghidorah> It appears as so
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| 20:55 | <alkisg> Nice
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| 20:56 | <Ghidorah> Is there a way to group clients?
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| 20:56 | <alkisg> We're waying for it. In about a couple of weeks. :)
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| 20:56 | *waiting
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| 20:57 | <Ghidorah> Awesome!
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| 22:31 | <abeehc> !compiz
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| 22:31 | <ltsp> abeehc: compiz: the default window manager in gnome is gnome-wm, which automatically chooses compiz if it thinks that the card supports it. Compiz is causing login problems to some clients (LP #673072). To disable it, see !disable_compiz. To restore it, see !restore_compiz
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| 22:31 | <abeehc> !restore_compiz
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| 22:31 | <ltsp> abeehc: restore_compiz: if you disabled compiz by running the command suggested by the !compiz factoid, and you want to revert the change, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --recursive-unset /desktop/gnome/session/required_components
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| 22:32 | <abeehc> !disable_compiz.
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| 22:32 | <ltsp> abeehc: I do not know about 'disable_compiz.', but I do know about these similar topics: 'disable-compiz'
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| 22:32 | <abeehc> !disable_compiz
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| 22:32 | <ltsp> abeehc: disable_compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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