IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 May 2020 (all times are UTC)
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| 12:37 | <kvaps> alksig: Hi, I synced my PRs with master, and updated ltsp-cloud package
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| 12:38 | Just found small regression, could you force rebuild the package?
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| 12:38 | alkisg*
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| 13:50 | <alkisg> kvaps: sure, done
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| 13:57 | <kvaps> alkisg: thx!
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| 14:00 | BTW, I wrote https://github.com/kvaps/dnsmasq-controller for Kubernets this is large step to run LTSP in Kubernetes :yay:
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| 14:15 | <alkisg> Yey!
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| 21:54 | <lord4163> Why doesn't LTSP support thin clients anymore? It kind of lost its value, not?
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| 21:57 | <vagrantc> mostly because the underlying technology that LTSP used, remote X11 protocol, is growing poorly supported in many upstream projects
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| 21:58 | there's no support in wayland, for example, and many projects are moving to that...
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| 21:58 | on top of that, performance of network booted fat clients is much better with even very old hardware these days
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| 21:59 | it's been the recommended mode of operation for LTSP for roughly the last 10 years...
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| 21:59 | er, ... maybe only 6
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| 22:01 | <lord4163> I remember playing with LTSP many years ago and the performance was great. I have a server with decent specs and it would have been great to use a raspberry pi as a thin client.
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| 22:01 | <vagrantc> how many years ago? ... it has been a gradual degradation over time.
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| 22:02 | some programs simply do not work at all, others have bugs in poorly tested code paths that only show themselves with remote X ...
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| 22:02 | <lord4163> It was probably 7-8 years ago
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| 22:03 | <vagrantc> i was also sad to see it go, but LTSP relied heavily on technology outside of LTSP that just isn't well supported anymore
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| 22:04 | <lord4163> I don't know, Xorg is not dead yet?
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| 22:04 | <vagrantc> i've heard of at least one project that implemented a thin client environment using the new LTSP
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| 22:05 | lord4163: Xorg still exists and works, but the network transparency support is bit rotting and not well tested
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| 22:05 | it wouldn
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| 22:05 | t be hard to implement a thin client with the new LTSP stuff, if you really want to test the state of affairs
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| 22:10 | <lord4163> I wonder if Wayland will get such features in the future?
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| 22:11 | <vagrantc> i don't think there's any intention to do so ... time will tell
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| 22:12 | with very powerful computers being quite affordable it also doesn't seem like thin clients will have a comeback ... i mean, people have computers in their pockets more powerful than massive servers of decades past
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| 22:13 | <lord4163> Yeah, I guess it's a special use case.
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| 22:14 | <vagrantc> that said, we've already seen several cycles of thin to fat and back again
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| 22:16 | i think https://code.x2go.org/releases/source/x2gothinclient
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| 22:16 | is used with newer ltsp in some cases
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| 22:17 | but requires x2go on the server ... heard mixed reviews about x2go
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| 22:17 | <lord4163> I guess x2go is better than VNC, but still, can't come close to remote X right?
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