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Channel log from 17 November 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:11 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 07:26 | <alkisg> stgraber: I wrote down the basic tasks that a windows port of epoptes-client would need, in case anyone's interested in implementing it: http://www.epoptes.org/documentation
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| 08:47 | <Hooh9> how to pass the tftp parameters to the kernel?
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| 08:47 | in /opt/ltsp/amd64/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ltsp_nbd the path is somehow fixed
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| 08:47 | echo "get ${tftppath:-/ltsp/i386}/lts.conf" | /bin/tftp ${NBD_ROOT_SERVER} >/dev/null 2>&1
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| 08:48 | <alkisg> Hooh9: the path is sent by your dhcp server, it's produced by the boot filename
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| 08:48 | <alkisg> So your lts.conf needs to be in the same dir as vmlinuz
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| 08:49 | *as pxelinux.0
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| 08:49 | <Hooh9> it is there, but never gets called
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| 08:50 | <alkisg> Put your dhcpd.conf to pastebin
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| 08:50 | And your lts.conf
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| 08:51 | <Hooh9> dhcp is done from windows
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| 08:53 | <alkisg> OK, describe it then, what the windows dhcp server sends an on which cases
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| 08:53 | And paste your lts.conf
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| 08:55 | <Hooh9> [Default]
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| 08:55 | XKBLAYOUT=de,us,it
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| 08:55 | NBD_SWAP=True
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| 08:55 | NFS_HOME=/export
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| 08:55 | SSH_FOLLOW_SYMLINKS=False
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| 08:55 | <alkisg> !pastebin
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| 08:55 | <ltsp> alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 08:55 | <Hooh9> TIMESERVER=85.18.189.242
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| 08:55 | RCFILE_01 = /etc/ltsp/ntpdate
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| 08:57 | <Hooh9> ok, sorry
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| 09:30 | <muppis> Wish me a luck. I'm about start building a ltsp based kvm cluster.
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| 09:31 | <alkisg> Hooh9: your lts.conf seems ok, but you didn't describe your windows dhcp server
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| 09:32 | The problem probably lies there. If you want, you can tell tftpd-hpa to be more verbose, so that you can see in the logs where it's trying to search for lts.conf
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| 09:32 | Probably you configured your dhcp server to only send a boot filename to pxeclients, and so it doesn't send it on the second udhcpc dhcp request, and finally the client searches for lts.conf in ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 09:41 | <muppis> Is it possible install ltsp without GUI?
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| 09:42 | <alkisg> I don't think there's a gui way to install ltsp
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| 09:42 | So yeah :)
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| 09:42 | <muppis> :P
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| 09:42 | I meant, if I install ltsp-server, it installs ldm and so. I don't need them so I don't want them.
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| 09:43 | <alkisg> ltsp-server doesn't install ldm
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| 09:45 | <muppis> How about ldm server?
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| 09:46 | <alkisg> ldm-server is not a GUI app, it runs from openbsd-inetd and reports the available sessions to clients
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| 10:06 | <Hooh9> @alkisg: PC boots via network using broadcast address, Win DHCP
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| 10:06 | provides IP and PXE server additional boot parameters
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| 10:06 | pxe-service=tag:ltsp,x86PC,"Linux",ltsp/amd64/pxelinux,10.7.20.21
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| 10:07 | /etc/dnsmasq.d/netboot.conf
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| 10:08 | <alkisg> Hooh9: do you mean you're using dnsmasq in proxydhcp mode?
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| 10:08 | !proxydhcp
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| 10:08 | <ltsp> alkisg: I do not know about 'proxydhcp', but I do know about these similar topics: 'proxy-dhcp'
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| 10:08 | <alkisg> !proxy-dhcp
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| 10:08 | <ltsp> alkisg: proxy-dhcp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 10:09 | <alkisg> If so, then that is the problem, that your windows dhcp server does not provide a boot filename, and your proxydhcp server only provides it to pxe clients, not to udhcpc
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| 10:09 | <Hooh9> yes correct
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| 10:09 | <alkisg> So your clients look for lts.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, even if they're amd64
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| 10:10 | <Hooh9> true
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| 10:10 | <alkisg> Ok so that's your solution ^
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| 10:10 | Or fix your windows dhcp server to send the boot filename
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| 10:16 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, is there any point really in running an amd64 chroot, rather than i386, when you're using thin clients?
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| 10:17 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: I don't even run amd64 on servers, I use -pae kernels instead, so I'm not the correct person to ask this question :D
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| 10:17 | <Hyperbyte> pae kernels?
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| 10:17 | <alkisg> I heard some people saying that the amd64 kernel is about 1-2% faster
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| 10:17 | Pae kernels see up to 64 Gb RAM
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| 10:17 | So until I have systems with more than 64 Gb RAM, I don't really care about amd64 architecture...
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| 10:18 | Firefox doesn't even ship binaries for amd64, does it?
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| 10:18 | <alkisg> And flash just now started shipping the 64bit plugin, so...
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| 10:21 | <alkisg> Ah and another argument against amd64 is that you waste more power if you use that instead of i386 - at least that's what I heard, I never actually googled about a proper comparison
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| 10:35 | <Hyperbyte> Firefox doesn't have amd64 binaries?
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| 10:36 | <alkisg> From their site, afaik no. That tells me they don't think their code is 64bit ready yet
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| 10:36 | <Hyperbyte> Heh!
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| 10:36 | That's nuts.
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| 11:55 | <muppis> Should ipappend=3 in pxelinux.cfg/default disable udhcpc at client?
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| 12:02 | <muppis> Ah. Incorrectly remembered. Fixing.
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| 16:11 | <matrix3000> ltsp-remoteapps epoptes isn't working
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| 16:12 | actually non of the ltsp-remoteapps commands are working
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| 16:59 | * lifeboy is away: will be back later to report or ask for more help | |
| 17:00 | <matrix3000> lol
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| 17:07 | <matrix3000> how do i make myself as away
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| 17:07 | <alkisg> Why do people use away and back messages at all?
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| 17:08 | <matrix3000> lol
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| 17:08 | <alkisg> I don't think the channel is so much interested to learn when they're away from their pcs...
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| 17:08 | <matrix3000> hey alkis, found a problem
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| 17:08 | <alkisg> What?
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| 17:08 | <matrix3000> ltsp-remoteapps epoptes doesn't work on fat clients
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| 17:08 | <alkisg> You mean that you didn't enable remoteapps in lts.conf and you're trying to blame epoptes for that? :P :D
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| 17:09 | <matrix3000> no
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| 17:09 | how do i enable remoteapps in lts.conf
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> Hehe, any error messages?
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| 17:09 | <matrix3000> you need to document this crap
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> !lts.conf
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| 17:09 | <ltsp> alkisg: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 17:09 | <matrix3000> no
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| 17:09 | no errors
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| 17:10 | no way you guys updated it?
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| 17:10 | <alkisg> If it's not documented there, file a bug against ltsp docs
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| 17:10 | <matrix3000> yea its not in there
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| 17:10 | just like some other things but the fat client stuff should be in the next commit i believe
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| 17:10 | <alkisg> Basically you set REMOTE_APPS=True in lts.conf
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| 17:11 | <matrix3000> ok will do that
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| 17:11 | what code should i look at to find other options in lts.conf
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| 17:11 | maybe i can help with more documentation
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| 17:11 | <alkisg> !ltsp-source
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| 17:11 | <ltsp> alkisg: ltsp-source: at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/files
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| 17:12 | <matrix3000> what file or is it a bunch of files that look at the lts.con
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| 17:12 | f
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| 17:13 | <alkisg> A bunch of files
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| 17:20 | <matrix3000> ah ok im starting to understand
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| 17:21 | wish i could search
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| 17:23 | <alkisg> matrix3000: bzr branch lp:~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk
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| 17:23 | grep -rw REMOTE_APPS *
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| 17:23 | And thus you can search :)
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| 17:23 | <matrix3000> im on windows and looking at that in firefox haha
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> You don't have ssh on windows?
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| 17:24 | <matrix3000> wait how do i grep a site?
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| 17:24 | lol
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| 17:24 | gahhhh
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> You ssh to a real pc, with linux
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| 17:24 | <matrix3000> i hate not knowing stuff
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| 17:24 | ok, i did now what
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> Then you use the power of the force... .err... bash
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| 17:24 | <matrix3000> oh a real PC....
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> The 2 commands you need are above
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| 17:25 | <matrix3000> ah ok
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| 17:27 | <matrix3000> gotta install bzr
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| 17:27 | lol
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| 20:38 | <matrix3000> quiet day in here today
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| 21:12 | <lifeboy> I'm off to bed, it's 23:12 here. Bye!
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| 21:29 | <markit> when is quiet means or everything is ok, or everyone is too busy to fix problems to even have time to ask / reply here ;P
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