IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 8 February 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:15 | <tom47> i am running edubuntu in test mode and am thinking of trying it in a small business with 5 clients but with the clients attached via wifi .... cannot find any documentation on doing it this way ... any ideas?
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| 00:16 | <vagrantc> !wireless
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| 00:16 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "wireless" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WirelessLtsp
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| 00:17 | <vagrantc> the short answer is, it's not really possible in the same way that wired ethernet is.
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| 00:18 | you either need a wireless-to-ethernet bridge for each thin client ... or you need to copy the kernel and initrd to a local media on each thin client, and keep them all updated.
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| 00:19 | you might have to do some initrd tweaking
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| 00:19 | <mathesis> jai
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| 00:19 | i have the next error
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| 00:20 | error failed to mount the root directory via NFa
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| 00:20 | Posible reasons include
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| 00:20 | 1)NFS sevice not be runnin on the server
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| 00:21 | <tom47> vagrantc the local media route seems the most attractive
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| 00:21 | <mathesis> 2)workstation ip does not map too hostname,eith in /etc/host or in dns
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| 00:21 | 3)wrong address for nfs sever in the dhcp config
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| 00:22 | 4)wrong pathname for root directory in the dhcp config
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| 00:27 | <tom47> vagantc is there any experience with the wireless bridge?
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| 00:33 | <Jenna> hi ! a question .
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| 00:34 | what is the requirments of adding a user on ltsp client, just so that he also able to use his usb flash drives.
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| 00:35 | does adding that user to "fuse" group enough, or should one also chmod some file/directory as well ?
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| 00:39 | <vagrantc> !checklist
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| 00:39 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "checklist" is The checklist for debugging problems with local device access is at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting. Please work through all 12 steps, record the results, and paste the results to the pastebot at http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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| 00:44 | <mathesis> vagrantc: https://listas.hispalinux.es/pipermail/ltsp-es/2003-December/000298.html
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| 01:00 | <vagrantc> mathesis: tiene al mismo problema?
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| 01:00 | <mathesis> si vagrantc
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| 01:00 | puedes entrar a mi server
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| 01:01 | es que este es el final
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| 01:01 | <vagrantc> mathesis: necesito dormir ... no tengo mucho tiempo
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| 01:01 | <mathesis> ya compra un hdd de 120 gb + 1 gb ram for 4 thin client
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| 01:01 | te doy acces
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| 01:01 | ok
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| 01:02 | <vagrantc> mathesis: en la proxima noche, quisas
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| 01:03 | <mathesis> vagrantc: mira lo que me manda el syslog
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| 01:04 | http://pastebin.ca/345079
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| 01:05 | <vagrantc> mathesis: lo siento, no se.
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| 01:06 | <mathesis> thanks
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| 01:13 | <chupacabra> getting all these windows apps ready to work under crossover. next to checking out ltsp
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| 02:39 | <dberkholz> for those interested, the latest dnsmasq release added an integrated tftp server, so you can now use it instead of all the other complex setups for dhcp, dns and tftp.
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| 02:44 | <dberkholz> actually i guess that's 2 versions ago, now
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| 07:24 | <Tarcisio> alou
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| 07:24 | alguem me ajuda com ltsp
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| 07:25 | <Tarcisio> alou
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| 07:25 | tanta gente e ninguem fala
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| 07:25 | kd vcs
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| 07:27 | syslogd: cannot write to remote file handle on192.168.0.10:514
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| 07:27 | rc.sysinit completed, switching to multi-session mode
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| 07:27 | e mais nada
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| 07:27 | nem abre o login do console
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| 07:27 | nem sai do canto
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| 07:27 | alguem tem uma saida pra isso
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| 07:36 | <Tarcisio> como eh galera
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| 07:49 | <jamil> i have 3 eth and onlys its one eth1
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| 09:05 | <mathesis> hi all
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| 09:05 | i am have proble for detect card netowrk
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| 10:11 | <cliebow_> etyack_bb:eric Howdy!!!
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| 10:12 | <etyack_bb> hey cliebow
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| 10:12 | <cliebow_> kids growing like weeds?
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| 10:14 | <etyack_bb> sure are. One of the twins started walking this week.
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| 10:15 | <cliebow_> Cool..pretty exciting..you working for ron?
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| 10:16 | <etyack_bb> and others
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| 10:20 | <th0rnydev> hi, i am wondering whether there is a way to send messages to users, for example alerting them about an imminent shutdown or similar?
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| 10:24 | is that a "no" or "we're all idle" ?
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| 10:38 | <PMantis> PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0
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| 10:38 | PRINTER_0_TYPE = P
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| 10:38 | MODULE_01 = usb-uhci
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| 10:38 | MODULE_02 = printer
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| 10:38 | FATAL: Module printer not found.
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| 10:38 | LTSP 4.2
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| 10:38 | 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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| 10:39 | A locate of printer.[sk]o or .o .c = nothing in ltsp dir
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| 10:39 | So, it's correct.
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| 10:39 | But perhaps wiki needs update
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| 10:58 | <sahil> is there a script that i could run to see what the actual load a sever of mine could handle
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| 10:58 | like number of users
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| 10:59 | <PMantis> sahil, http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
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| 10:59 | <cliebow_> there is only guesstimates
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| 10:59 | <PMantis> No script that I know of... but that's the best place for info
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| 11:00 | <cliebow_> as PMantis so glibly elucidated
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| 11:33 | <PMantis> hey jammcq
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| 11:53 | <Sp0oKeR> jey jammcq
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| 11:53 | ops hey
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| 11:53 | jammcq, will you come to FISL?
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| 13:59 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hiii
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| 13:59 | at last! i change my problem with my NEW card eth
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| 13:59 | so now can catch ip from dhcp but now have nfs troubles
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| 13:59 | some active to check?
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| 14:00 | <sepski> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, what kind of nfs problems ? check your mount arguments, try with tcp if you use udp and vice versa
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| 14:00 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> out the 4 possibles error at kernel panic..
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| 14:00 | i check 1 by 1 tryning to identified
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| 14:01 | so services is runing
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| 14:01 | /etc/hosts is ok
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| 14:01 | 192.168.0.1 ltsp
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| 14:01 | wrong adress for nfs at dhcp files
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| 14:01 | i dont know what client means
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| 14:01 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> and wrong pathname root directory in dhcp file
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| 14:01 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i check with both path
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| 14:02 | -> /opt/ltsp and /opt/ltsp-4.2
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| 14:02 | /etc/exports was created by ltspadmin and out that cat
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| 14:02 | /opt/ltsp 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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| 14:02 | /var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash,async)
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| 14:03 | really said more above 192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp or /opt/ltsp-4.2 dailed, by reason given by server Permission denied nfsmount failed bad file descriptor
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| 14:03 | what permission I have and where?
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| 14:26 | <cliebow_> sh:can you try showmount -e from a commandline
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| 14:28 | check that portmap is running
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| 14:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhmm i remove ltspserver again and i make from zero why nfs when i set it option by ltspadmin menu and type [y] why can't work?
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| 14:34 | i made it by default
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| 14:35 | <cliebow_> be sure portmap and nfs are really running..despite what ltspadmin might say..
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| 14:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhmm
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| 14:37 | i paste slow
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| 14:37 | Stopping NFS kernel daemon: mountd nfsd.
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| 14:37 | Unexporting directories for NFS kernel daemon....
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| 14:37 | Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon...exportfs: /etc/exports [2]: Neither 'subtree_check' or 'no_subtree_check' specified for export "192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0:/opt/ltsp".
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| 14:37 | Assuming default behaviour ('subtree_check').
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| 14:37 | NOTE: this default will change with nfs-utils version 1.1.0
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| 14:37 | exportfs: /etc/exports [3]: Neither 'subtree_check' or 'no_subtree_check' specified for export "192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0:/var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles".
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| 14:37 | Assuming default behaviour ('subtree_check').
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| 14:37 | NOTE: this default will change with nfs-utils version 1.1.0
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| 14:37 | .
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| 14:37 | Starting NFS kernel daemon: nfsd mountd.
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| 14:37 | is that correct?
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| 14:38 | <cliebow_> id rather see output of netstat -anp|grep ":2049"
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| 14:38 | and showmount -e
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| 14:38 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2049 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -
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| 14:38 | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2049 0.0.0.0:* -
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| 14:38 | Export list for opensource:
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| 14:38 | /opt/ltsp 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
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| 14:38 | /var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
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| 14:39 | <cliebow_> that looks good
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| 14:39 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> :\
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| 14:39 | <cliebow_> portmap...netstat -anp|grep portmap
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| 14:39 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2110/portmap
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| 14:39 | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* 2110/portmap
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| 14:39 | <cliebow_> dang..that looks good as well
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| 14:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> kernel said mount 192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/i386 failed, reason by server
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| 14:40 | Permission denied
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| 14:40 | <cliebow_> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS
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| 14:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> nfsmount failed : bad file descriptor
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| 14:40 | <cliebow_> see anything there that is apporpriate?
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| 14:42 | <dan__t> baaah.
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| 14:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> well
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| 14:42 | only the last below
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| 14:42 | NFSOPTS="-o nolock,ro,proto=tcp"
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| 14:42 | <dan__t> Firefox locks up my setup left and righ
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| 14:42 | right
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| 14:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> including at kernel
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| 14:42 | my default at .pxe.cfg/default not have that in file
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| 14:42 | could be that?
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| 14:43 | <cliebow_> cant hurt to gicve it a shot..
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| 14:43 | i dont know your setup..nfs can be quirky
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| 14:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i'll try with this :|
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| 14:43 | append rw root=/dev/ram0 initrd=initramfs.gz NIC=8139too NFSOPTS="-o nolock,ro,proto=tcp"
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| 14:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yeaaaaa
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| 14:46 | jeje
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| 14:46 | works!!!
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| 14:47 | :)
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| 14:47 | but well..
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| 14:47 | i have at server xdm
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| 14:47 | and gdm
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| 14:47 | just have my mouse
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| 14:47 | and gray deep
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| 14:47 | <dan__t> ok, I have machines that just lock up - completely. Anyone have experience troubleshooting this?
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| 14:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> not out nothing like login or gdm domething
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| 14:48 | <dan__t> One of the machines was a FC6 machine prior to the LTSP switchover, and was not locking up. So I can conclude I think that things are failing due to a mechanism in LTSP
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| 15:05 | <cliebow_> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: read this if you have gray screen..this is 4.2 i believe..you need to enable remote xdmcp
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| 15:07 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen
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| 15:12 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 15:13 | <dan__t> 'afternoon.
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| 15:13 | <erdinc> i wish that :) Im in gmt+2
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| 15:18 | <dan__t> i'm -7
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| 15:18 | <erdinc> :))
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| 15:45 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> re-again
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| 15:45 | uhmm. i just can hit to X gray and mouse .. not see the login or something i'm using gdm.. what left me now? :|
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| 15:45 | i check this
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| 15:45 | netstat -ap | grep xdmcp
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| 15:45 | not receive nothing
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| 15:59 | <dan__t> start gdm manually?
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| 15:59 | look at /etc/inittab
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| 16:00 | <dan__t> Look for a 'prefdm' section.
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| 16:00 | I believe the page that talks about xdmcp details this process, too.
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| 19:19 | <mathesis> some idea http://pastebin.ca/346057
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| 19:35 | <cliebow> newrott?ids that a typo?
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| 19:54 | <mathesis> i have error http://pastebin.ca/346064
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| 21:46 | <mathesis_> hi vagrantc
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| 21:47 | <vagrantc> mathesis_: buenas noches
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| 21:47 | <mathesis_> buenas noche vagrantc
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| 21:48 | vagrantc: excuse me i have error
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| 21:48 | http://pastebin.ca/346057
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| 21:48 | you can help me
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| 21:49 | tengo muchos problemas con el nuevo hardware que compre
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| 21:49 | no me reconoce las tarjetas de red
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| 21:49 | <vagrantc> mathesis_: en cinco minutos
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| 21:49 | <mathesis_> ok
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| 22:06 | * vagrantc wonders if /etc/udev/rules.d/88-ltsp is really needed to be at that partiuclar number | |
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| 22:10 | <mathesis> vagrantc: me dices cuando estes desocupado
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| 22:13 | <vagrantc> mathesis: #
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| 22:13 | mathesis: mount :Mounting 192.168.0.1/opt/ltsp/i386 on newrrot/nfsroot
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| 22:13 | # failed invalid argument"
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| 22:13 | mathesis: creo que "192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/i386"
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| 22:14 | mathesis: con ":"
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| 22:15 | <mathesis> in dhcp.conf
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| 22:16 | <vagrantc> grep root-path dhcp.conf
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| 22:17 | <mathesis> ption root-path "192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 22:17 | option root-path "192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 22:18 | vagrantsolo tengo una nic por que me detecta la segunda como eth1_rena
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| 22:18 | recuerdas que eso me paso hace tiempo y lo solucionaste?
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| 22:18 | <vagrantc> ah, si.
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| 22:18 | <mathesis> puedes entrar de nuevo
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| 22:19 | <vagrantc> mathesis: ah.
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| 22:20 | <mathesis> in the query vagrantc
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| 22:30 | <vagrantc> ogra: why didn't we stick with the same variable names as ltsp 4.x for lots of things, like LOCALDEV/LOCAL_STORAGE ... there have been a couple others...
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| 23:22 | <mathesis> alguien me lee
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