IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 3 March 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:00 | <url_work> hey alkisg, you busy
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| 05:01 | well, i know you're always busy, but, if you've 5 mins for a pm that'd begreat, elsewise, i can toss some stuff into an email
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| 05:55 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 05:55 | url_work: shoot
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| 06:46 | <Gaurav____> how to get client IP address connected to the LTSP server
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| 06:47 | or Process id of client instance
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| 06:47 | <alkisg> !client-list
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| 06:47 | <ltsp> client-list: to get a list of all nbd-clients (which sometimes is the same as ltsp clients), run: netstat -tn | sed -n 's/.*:10809 *\([0-9.]*\):.*/\1/p' | sort -Vu
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| 06:47 | <alkisg> Gaurav____: is that ^ what're you're asking for?
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| 06:53 | <Gaurav____> Actually we were trying to kill the process w.r.t client ip which is shutdown forcefully
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| 06:54 | nbd-server session remains as it is when client machine directly switch off
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| 06:55 | next tym when server is loaded again then socket failure occurs
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| 06:59 | <alkisg> Which distribution and which LTSP version are you using?
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| 07:00 | <Gaurav____> Ubuntu 14.04
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| 07:00 | how to get LTSP version
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| 07:12 | <alkisg> Gaurav____: run this:
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| 07:12 | sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999
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| 07:12 | And tell us the result
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| 07:13 | <Gaurav____> Is there is any command to get client Ip address and NBD-Server Process id mapping
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| 07:13 | okay i will check
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| 07:14 | sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999 No LSB modules are available. http://termbin.com/m29r
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| 07:15 | <alkisg> Gaurav____: so the problem is that if you hard-reset a client, then it won't boot until you kill that nbd-server process?
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| 07:15 | <Gaurav____> yes exactly
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| 07:16 | the process remains as it is
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| 07:16 | <alkisg> What's the output of this? sudo ltsp-chroot dpkg -l nbd-client
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| 07:17 | <Gaurav____> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Architecture Description +++-==============-============-============-================================= ii nbd-client 1:3.7-1 i386 Network Block Device protocol - c
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| 07:17 | <alkisg> Moment, phone...
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| 07:18 | <Gaurav____> ??
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| 07:20 | we will communicate via phone after 1:30
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| 07:21 | <alkisg> No, I'm on the phone, busy
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| 07:22 | I will be back in 10 minutes or so
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| 07:22 | <Gaurav____> okay sure no problem
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| 07:32 | <alkisg> vlt: do you remember an issue with the nbd-client using the same port and then the nbd-server refusing its connection, which was solved a couple of years ago?
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| 07:32 | I wonder if that's what Gaurav____ is having now
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| 07:39 | Gaurav____: do you have any plans to upgrade to 16.04? that should also solve the nbd-client issue...
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| 07:47 | <vlt> Good morning!
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| 07:47 | alkisg: No, we never had such an issue. But we skipped 14.04.
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| 07:48 | <alkisg> vlt: thanks, it was someone else that reported it then... maybe vmlintu...
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| 07:48 | <vlt> (For us it was 6.06 and 8.04 on KDE, 10.04 on Gnome, 12.04 and 16.04 on MATE.
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| 07:48 | )
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| 09:54 | <ZAJDAN> when I build cliant via: ltsp-build-client --arch i386 ....where all ltsp creates directory?
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| 09:56 | <alkisg> In /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 09:57 | <ZAJDAN> becase I see: 1) /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/ 2) /srv/tftp/ltsp/i386/ 3) /opt/lstp/i386/
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| 09:57 | <alkisg> (1) is a copy of the kernels to go to the clients via tftp
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| 09:58 | (2) is not needed, delete /srv/tftp to get rid of it
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| 09:58 | (3) is the chroot with all the applications etc
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| 09:59 | <ZAJDAN> thnx for explain
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| 09:59 | <alkisg> np
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| 09:59 | With ltsp-pnp, you don't need chroots
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| 10:00 | <ZAJDAN> I know, but for debian is really not good documentation
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| 10:00 | <alkisg> Do you need help with that?
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| 10:01 | <ZAJDAN> we can try...moment...I will prepare something
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| 10:34 | <alkisg> !vnc-dide | echo ZAJDAN:
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| 10:34 | <ltsp> ZAJDAN: vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 10:36 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: I will have to leave in a while though, so if you'd like help, now it would be a good time...
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| 10:38 | <Gaurav____> hey alkisg sorry for the delay.. but we are trying not to use latest versions of ubuntu so, we sticked to the 14.04 version
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| 10:39 | If the issue is solved in 16.04 version then we will think about that
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| 10:39 | <ZAJDAN> XOpenDisplay(":0") failed.
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| 10:40 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: and do you have xorg running?
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| 10:40 | <ZAJDAN> the problem is probably, that I am connected to the machine via NX and from command line try to open VNC
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| 10:41 | <alkisg> You can run that command from inside nx
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| 10:41 | <ZAJDAN> xorg should be there
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| 10:42 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: try to run xterm from the same terminal
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| 10:42 | Can you launch xterm from there?
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| 10:42 | If yes, you have xorg. If not, you don't have xorg there.
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| 10:43 | Gaurav____: it's possible that it is solved, yes. You are also using an old version of ltsp
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| 10:43 | !greek-schools-ppa | echo Gaurav____:
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| 10:43 | <ltsp> Gaurav____: greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
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| 10:43 | <ZAJDAN> xorg is there
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| 10:44 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: are all your clients amd64?
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| 10:44 | I.e. 64bit?
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| 10:45 | <ZAJDAN> not
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| 10:45 | a few are 32bit
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| 10:46 | but is not problem use only 64bit
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| 10:46 | the I could gradually eradicate 32bit machines
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| 10:46 | <alkisg> The 32bit clients won't boot at all, ok?
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| 10:47 | <ZAJDAN> but be honest, would be nice use older iron when works good
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| 10:47 | <alkisg> Also, KDE has known issues with LTSP
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| 10:47 | <ZAJDAN> aha aha
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| 10:47 | <alkisg> Are you set on using KDE, or you can also use e.g. mate?
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| 10:47 | <ZAJDAN> no problem to change it to MATE
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| 10:48 | it is server...KDE is not good choice on such machine....
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| 10:48 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: well then you would need to start with reinstalling debian with mate
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| 10:48 | Go for debian stretch and mate 32 bit
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| 10:49 | <ZAJDAN> not possible...this is machine which cannot be reinstaled
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| 10:49 | only change graphical enviroment is possible
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| 10:49 | or I could prepare another fresh machine
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| 10:49 | <alkisg> Yeah that would be best
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| 10:50 | <ZAJDAN> ok...as I will be ready...I will let You know
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> First see how 32bit stretch+mate works on your clients, and then you can see if you want any changes over that
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| 10:50 | <Gaurav____> Thank you alkisg for your help i will try to use upgraded version of LTSP and ubuntu
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> Gaurav____: follow the ltsp-pnp guide as closely as you can
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| 10:50 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 10:50 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 10:51 | <Gaurav____> yes sure
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| 15:17 | <ZAJDAN> know anybody if exist also windows 7 PXE ready (not installator)?
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| 15:18 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: I don't know what that means
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| 15:18 | Describe what you're asking with more words
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| 15:18 | <ZAJDAN> I want to boot into ready system
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| 15:18 | not install the system via PXE
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> So, not windows 7 pxe, but a netbooted windows system?
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| 15:19 | Possible with iscsi? or with a VM?
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| 15:19 | <ZAJDAN> VM would be not a problem
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> Then you can easily run windows in a vm on top of ltsp
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| 15:20 | Because windows doesn't like different hardware, so it would easily choke while netbooting
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| 15:21 | <ZAJDAN> aha
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| 15:22 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 15:22 | <alkisg> Heya Scotty
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| 15:23 | <sbalneav> 'lo alkisg
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| 15:29 | <elias_a> What is this? LTSP veteran parade? :P
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| 15:29 | Nice to see you, guys!
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| 15:30 | * sbalneav drives the float | |
| 15:30 | * alkisg waves his cane at elias_a :D | |
| 15:42 | <ZAJDAN> I am installing new VM(Debian) and I am thinking how to divide HDD..where will be good plate for booting datas
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| 15:42 | is good leave it in / (root) ?
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| 15:42 | <alkisg> For debian installation questions, ask in #debian
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| 15:43 | <ZAJDAN> or create separated partition for /var
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| 15:43 | <alkisg> The defaults are usually fine
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| 15:43 | <ZAJDAN> I mean on which partiton is the best put PXE datas
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> PXE is not related to the debian installation
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| 15:44 | <ZAJDAN> ltsp puts into /var ...yes?
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> PXE data is put in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386, it's not put in a partition
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| 15:44 | And it's just a few MB, not worth mentioning
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| 15:45 | <ZAJDAN> but in /opt ..is the rest for PXE (big data)..yes?
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| 15:46 | <alkisg> PXE is only the part until tftp
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| 15:46 | The rest of it is called "netboting"
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| 15:46 | In /opt you put the NBD or NFS data, yes
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| 15:47 | <ZAJDAN> because my goal is create such machine which will provide boot of ready systems, installator of a few OS
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| 15:47 | <alkisg> LTSP is for booting linux only
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| 15:48 | If you want to run VMs on top of it, you can surely do so
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| 15:48 | But you can't directly netboot windows with ltsp
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| 15:48 | <ZAJDAN> yes....also the Linux I want to provide as ready system and installer
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| 15:49 | <alkisg> Why do you want so much organization just for 4 clients?
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| 15:49 | <ZAJDAN> client will boot via PXE...will get menu and there will be ready system, installer of a few system
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| 15:49 | because I wold like to centralize all on one place.....
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| 15:50 | but lets start just with one thing
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| 15:50 | <alkisg> I'm not sure it's worth the effort just for 4 clients...
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| 15:50 | <ZAJDAN> I want to create ltsp for pxe boot ready system
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| 15:50 | <alkisg> Anyway, it's your effort :)
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| 15:59 | <||cw> ZAJDAN: I have something like that, but I use a separate PXE server for the installers and utils. ltsp clients have entries that bypass that menu and redirect to the ltsp's tftp
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| 16:00 | but that's all just standard PXE boot stuff, nothing ltsp related
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| 16:01 | <ZAJDAN> cw ---super!
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| 16:03 | <alkisg> I think that when ZAJDAN says "installers", he means "installations" of systems
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| 16:03 | <ZAJDAN> alkisg: yes
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| 16:03 | <alkisg> At least that what he said in PM, he doesn't want a windows installer, but a windows installation...
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| 16:04 | <||cw> ah, well you can't do that because windows doens't support it
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| 16:05 | <ZAJDAN> I would like to offer menu, where station could choose if you want to install new system and another(discless) station could choose ready system (like liveCD)
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| 16:09 | is it possible?
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| 16:09 | somewhere I have seen it
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| 16:14 | <alkisg> Sure , it will take you a few weeks to do it with netbooting and a few hours to do it locally :)
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| 16:21 | <||cw> yes
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| 16:23 | that's standard PXE stuff. the livecd way is easy, you first mount or extract the ISO on the server and then export that via NFS, then copy the kernel and initrd into pxe and use the kernel command line to point to nfs
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| 16:24 | alkisg: not sure what you mean, pxe+nfs install is way faster than a cd
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| 16:24 | but maybe slower than USB is you only have 100Mbit nics
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| 16:25 | I say maybe because I have some USB that peak at 4MB/s
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| 16:26 | <alkisg> ||cw: I mean it's difficult to set it up, so it's best to install locally if you only have 4 clients
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| 16:26 | I'm not talking about boot speed but setup time
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| 16:26 | <ZAJDAN> and is possible offer one "live system" with a few system accounts a each station boot under own account?
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| 16:27 | <||cw> I guess that depend on how often you reinstall
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| 16:28 | ZAJDAN: that's what ltsp does, yes. the livecd method, each boot is its own instance and runs on the client itself, just like usb or cd booting
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| 16:30 | <ZAJDAN> ah ok..because my goal is boot into such system and each station will start RDP with own credentials
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| 16:31 | and here I am confuse...when all clients runs system from one container, how the station know where to take configuration for RDP
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| 16:31 | <||cw> there's ltsp instructions for making a xfreerdp client
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| 16:31 | the config is taken from the lts.conf
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| 16:32 | <ZAJDAN> ltsp server pass such setting via MAC of station/client ?
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| 16:32 | ah ok..I understand now
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| 16:32 | <||cw> you can make a menu, or you can connect to an rdp automatic based on client MAC
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| 16:32 | <ZAJDAN> super!
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| 16:33 | <||cw> you can also have both, only seeing the menu when the client's mac is not defined in the conf
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| 16:33 | <ZAJDAN> wooow
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| 16:34 | sometime I thing some people are robots :_) what all is possible
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| 16:41 | <||cw> ZAJDAN: when going beyond the standard ltsp deployment, just keep in mind that ltsp is build on top of several standard tools, and with a little research on those things and modifying the ltsp defaults you can do a whole lot of useful things
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| 16:45 | <ZAJDAN> this is the benefit of NIX systems
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| 16:56 | what is actually a benefit of ltsp-pnp..the non-chroot method?
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| 16:57 | <||cw> easier to maintain what's installed between thin and fat clients
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| 17:24 | <ZAJDAN> for ltsp-pnp: ltsp-server, dnsmasq...what more?
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> !ltsp-pnp
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| 17:24 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> Follow the ubuntu guide for the initial installation steps
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| 17:31 | <ZAJDAN> on debian have to also ldm-ubuntu-theme?
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| 17:31 | <alkisg> No
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| 17:31 | <ZAJDAN> because such package will be problem
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| 17:31 | ok
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| 17:33 | <ZAJDAN> echo 'IPAPPEND=3' >> /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf such config file doesnt exist on debian
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| 17:33 | is enough to create such file?
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| 17:34 | and pass the content there
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| 17:34 | <alkisg> Do you have ltsp-client-core installed?
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| 17:36 | <ZAJDAN> yes version ...5.5.9-2
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| 17:37 | <ZAJDAN> dpkg -l ltsp-client-core shows me that is there
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| 17:37 | <alkisg> dpkg -S ltsp-client-core | grep update-kernels
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| 17:37 | You'll see that the file is there too
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| 17:38 | <ZAJDAN> returns nothing
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| 17:39 | <alkisg> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/i386/ltsp-client-core/filelist
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| 17:39 | It's in the 5th line there
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| 17:39 | I.e. if you don't have it, something is very wrong already
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| 17:40 | <ZAJDAN> pure fresh install!
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| 17:41 | <ZAJDAN> ok I have reinstalled ltsp-client and now is there...strange
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| 17:47 | <ZAJDAN> now I am installing epoptes, so far everithing goes fine
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| 20:04 | <ZAJDAN> erka
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| 20:06 | is anybody here?
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| 20:08 | <ZAJDAN> haha :_)
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| 20:10 | when ltsp runs on VM and I will change hardware resources, for example increase cores of CPU for VM is need to lstp-update-image ?
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| 20:30 | <ZAJDAN> erka
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| 20:36 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: no, linux can boot without problems even if you change the hardware
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| 20:36 | What is "erka"?
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| 20:37 | <ZAJDAN> one my machine hostname
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| 20:38 | <alkisg> And why do you write erka here? It listens on irc? :D
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| 20:38 | <ZAJDAN> so I have a few steps done...right now I finished Editing lts.conf
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| 20:41 | now I should continue with the DNS, but in my case DNS does Mikrotik router(where I have options for PXE)
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> No don't do the dns parts
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| 20:42 | <ZAJDAN> ok
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| 20:43 | probably I will need to configure lts.conf...right?
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| 20:44 | what about tftp? in the manual is nothing about the tftp
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| 20:46 | <alkisg> ltsp-config dnsmasq configures tftp
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| 20:48 | <ZAJDAN> File /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf exist but --overwrite was not specified. Aborting
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| 20:50 | <alkisg> OK you did it in a previous step
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| 20:52 | <ZAJDAN> true,,I really forgot I made it before
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| 20:57 | on Mikrotik in DHCP options Boot File Name:/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 ...is it correct?
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| 20:59 | <alkisg> Yes, and you also need rootpath=/opt/ltsp/i386, and next-server=ip-of-ltsp
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| 20:59 | <matute> in my case it's without the initial "/"
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| 20:59 | <ZAJDAN> matute: good to know..thnx
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| 20:59 | <matute> 017 Root path: /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 21:00 | <alkisg> Yes matute is right, debian has a bug and needs that fix there
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| 21:00 | <ZAJDAN> ughrrr
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| 21:00 | <matute> 067 Bootfile Name: ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 21:00 | <ZAJDAN> so I have to create new DHCP options 017 ..?
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| 21:00 | <alkisg> Eh, I would assume the opposite
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| 21:01 | Root path=opt/ltsp/i386, and boot filename=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0...
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| 21:01 | But anyways
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| 21:01 | <matute> those are the parameters as I've got them configured in my DHCP (win 2003 srv btw) and everything is working fine
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| 21:01 | <vagrantc> that's a bug in NBD's initramfs-tools hooks, not LTSP
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| 21:02 | my preferred workaround is to add another stanza in /etc/nbd-server/config/ltsp_*
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| 21:02 | * vagrantc really needs to get that fixed soon | |
| 21:03 | <vagrantc> anyways, off to other things...
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| 21:06 | <ZAJDAN> when I try to add on mikrotik new DHCP options 017 it returns uknown data type
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| 21:07 | on Mikrotik it will be 162 - root path
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| 21:07 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: you don't need t oconfigure your rouer
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| 21:08 | ltsp-pnp works without router configuration
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| 21:08 | If you already ran ltsp-update-image -c /, then just try to boot a client
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| 21:08 | <ZAJDAN> ok
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| 21:09 | <ZAJDAN> but somehow client need to get info how to boot
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| 21:10 | <alkisg> It gets it from dnsmasq, from ltsp
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| 21:10 | !proxydhcp
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| 21:10 | <ltsp> proxydhcp: A proxy DHCP server is defined by the PXE specification as a server which sends auxiliary boot information to clients, like the boot filename, tftp server or rootpath, but leaves the task of IP leasing to the normal DHCP server. More info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 21:12 | <ZAJDAN> omg..it is so confusing----there is written: Installing dnsmasq and removing ltsp-server-standalone
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| 21:12 | <alkisg> You don't need to do anything there
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| 21:12 | You already done that
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| 21:13 | <ZAJDAN> but previous manual about ltsp-pnp says something else....install dnsmasq and also tlsp-server
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| 21:13 | <alkisg> It's just explaining what proxydhcp is
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| 21:13 | <ZAJDAN> ok
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| 21:13 | <alkisg> Don't do the steps to install it because you already have it
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| 21:13 | <ZAJDAN> I know
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| 21:14 | so now I do no know....may I use my Mikrotik as DHCP for PXE or not?
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| 21:14 | before You told me yes....now we speak about DHCP proxy
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| 21:15 | <matute> simple, where do you have a DHCP server?
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| 21:15 | <alkisg> You can use mikrotik as dhcp, yes
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| 21:15 | <matute> in the mikrotik? or in the LTSP server?
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| 21:15 | <alkisg> But you tried and didn't know how to do it
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| 21:15 | So I told you that you don't even need to
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| 21:15 | Because ltsp-pnp already works without you configuring the dhcp server
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| 21:15 | <ZAJDAN> my main DHCP server is Mikrotik and I would like to use also for PXE
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| 21:15 | <alkisg> ZAJDAN: do that later
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| 21:16 | Now just boot a client
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| 21:16 | <ZAJDAN> ok...I see that client gets IP from tlsp server(such subnet I have not on Mikrotik)
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| 21:17 | PXE-T02: Option neogation failure (file not found or inacessible?)
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| 21:17 | permissions on server?
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| 21:17 | <alkisg> Give me vnc to see
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| 21:17 | !vnc-edide
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| 21:17 | <ltsp> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 21:18 | <alkisg> Or,
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| 21:18 | !vnc-dide
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| 21:18 | <ltsp> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 21:20 | <ZAJDAN> ok...connected..seems to be
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| 21:20 | erkaerkaerka
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| 21:21 | <alkisg> You type it and press enter
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| 21:21 | <ZAJDAN> is there
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| 21:22 | <alkisg> At 21:58 you booted a client?
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| 21:22 | <ZAJDAN> yes
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| 21:22 | <alkisg> And why does it fail now? What did you change?
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| 21:22 | <ZAJDAN> I changed nothing
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| 21:24 | <alkisg> Remove the options from the router
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| 21:24 | Then boot the client again
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| 21:24 | <ZAJDAN> ok
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| 21:25 | same problem
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| 21:25 | <alkisg> I didn't see a dhcp request
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| 21:25 | Is it on the same subnet as the ltsp server?
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| 21:26 | Does it have a cable properly plugged in? Etc etc
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| 21:26 | <ZAJDAN> mikrotik gives for clients subnet 192.168.6.0/24
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| 21:27 | <alkisg> Does it block dhcp broadcasts?
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| 21:27 | Because normally dnsmasq reports that some client does a dhcp request
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| 21:27 | <ZAJDAN> moment!
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| 21:27 | <alkisg> Mar 3 21:57:59 pxe-master dnsmasq-dhcp[11447]: PXE(enp0s3) 08:00:27:51:a4:e1 proxy
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| 21:28 | That's what you should see in the ltsp server, when a client does a pxe request
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| 21:28 | <ZAJDAN> my mistake!
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| 21:28 | pxe client was set with NAT -sorry
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| 21:28 | it was quickly created vm client
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| 21:29 | <alkisg> OK, boot it again
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| 21:29 | <ZAJDAN> done
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| 21:29 | frozen in text mode (initramfs)
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| 21:30 | and before warning: Failed to connect to lvnetad
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| 21:30 | <alkisg> What initramfs? It again didn't contact the ltsp server at all
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| 21:30 | Do what you did to boot the client previously. Was that the same VM that you tried?
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| 21:31 | <ZAJDAN> is says client
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| 21:31 | Cannot process volume group pxe
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| 21:31 | on the server I use LVM
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| 21:33 | http://picpaste.com/pics/PXE-client-boot-problem-K2mq4HOE.1488576790.png
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| 21:34 | <alkisg> Ah, ok, that's a problem with ltsp-pnp then
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| 21:34 | Because it tries to do the same things that your server does
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| 21:36 | <ZAJDAN> problem about LVM yes
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| 21:37 | <alkisg> reboot client
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| 21:37 | <ZAJDAN> ok
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| 21:38 | <ZAJDAN> client successfully booted
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| 21:39 | <alkisg> Cool, it was the nbd-server bug that we were chatting above
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| 21:40 | ZAJDAN: ok, add a new user to the server, and login to the client...
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| 21:40 | <ZAJDAN> epoptes..this is really perfect!
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| 21:40 | <alkisg> Thank you :)
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| 21:42 | adduser, not useradd...
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| 21:42 | Specify a password there
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| 21:43 | OK, welcome to LTSP. The rest is up to you now! :)
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| 21:44 | <ZAJDAN> big thank!!! it is really perfect tool!
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| 21:44 | big work...hat down
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| 21:45 | about the nbd...it will be fixed? for future
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| 21:45 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 21:46 | For now, create two files, one with slash and one without it
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| 21:47 | <ZAJDAN> but what is magic, that client during boot gets IP from Mikrotik and without DHCP options know the rest about boot server
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| 21:47 | amazing
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| 21:48 | <alkisg> It's the same for windows dhcp servers too, you don't need to configure them at all :D
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| 21:48 | And it works with cheap routers that ISPs give as well, that have almost no configuration...
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| 21:48 | <ZAJDAN> ltsp-pnp send some broadcast where are the info for boot?
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| 21:48 | <alkisg> That's why it's becoming the default for ltsp, it's too easy
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| 21:48 | You didn't read what proxydhcp is...
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| 21:48 | !proxydhcp
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| 21:48 | <ltsp> proxydhcp: A proxy DHCP server is defined by the PXE specification as a server which sends auxiliary boot information to clients, like the boot filename, tftp server or rootpath, but leaves the task of IP leasing to the normal DHCP server. More info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 21:49 | <alkisg> I typed that before so that you read what it is, not to execute the commands...
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| 21:49 | <ZAJDAN> ok...I will read about this
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| 21:54 | could you look at something?
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| 21:55 | <alkisg> I closed the vnc window
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| 21:56 | ZAJDAN: you need to logout/login for group changes to take effect
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| 21:56 | <ZAJDAN> ah yes...true
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| 21:56 | <alkisg> Or, use newgrp to run epoptes.
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| 21:56 | <ZAJDAN> thnx
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| 21:56 | in what it is written whole the project?
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| 21:57 | <alkisg> python and shell
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| 21:57 | <ZAJDAN> wtf? just python
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| 21:57 | amazing
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| 21:58 | some special framework?
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| 21:58 | <alkisg> nope
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| 21:58 | <ZAJDAN> and the GUI? epoptes
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| 21:58 | <alkisg> python/gtk
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| 21:59 | <ZAJDAN> you are really good
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| 21:59 | congratulations
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| 21:59 | <alkisg> ty
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| 22:03 | <ZAJDAN> what is really cool is that the thubnails in epoptes is rendered relatime
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| 22:08 | one client is connected throug old 100M switch and it works very good..fast
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| 22:08 | super!
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| 22:08 | <alkisg> It's because it's fat client and not thin :)
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| 22:11 | <ZAJDAN> what is the difference between fat and thin?
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| 22:11 | <alkisg> Thin is like remote desktop, fat is like remote disk only
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| 22:12 | <ZAJDAN> so the diskless stations are fat clients?
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| 22:13 | in all cases just because of the diskless?
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| 22:13 | <alkisg> Both thins and fats are diskless
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| 22:13 | Clients with >=500 mb ram get to be "fat"
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| 22:13 | With less, they become thin
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| 22:13 | From the same chroot
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| 22:13 | <ZAJDAN> ah yes now I understand..it depends on RAM
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| 22:15 | crucial is ram
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| 22:15 | the more the best
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