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Channel log from 18 May 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:15 | <manu_ubu> hello
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| 06:49 | <manu_ubu> salut X-TaZ oui c'est plutôt la langue de Shakespeare que Molière ici ;)
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| 06:51 | <tadeu_> guys, i just installed a LTS in a ubuntu server but it has no window manager and i want gnome in clients. What i have to do? chroot to /opt/ltsp/ and install gnome ?
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| 06:51 | <NeonLicht> tadeu_: no, Gnome needs to be installed on the server, not on the chroot
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| 06:51 | <manu_ubu> non non je viens ici car j'utilise LTSP et je glane quelques info au passage, j'utilise ubuntu 8.04 stable tranquille
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| 06:52 | <tadeu_> NeonLicht, right, thanks
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| 09:01 | <jrock2004> Running opera in an LTSP environment and for some reason it is always complaining about the lock file in the .opera directory. Is there a way to disable the lock file?
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| 09:08 | <Blinny> Sorry jrock2004, never run Opera in LTSP environ
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| 09:08 | <jrock2004> Blinny: well I had no choice due to the mozilla bug with drop downs
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| 09:09 | unless there is another browser which is good for slow thin clients
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| 09:09 | <nubae> konquerer?
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| 09:10 | or linx :D
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| 09:14 | <jrock2004> To install konqueror does it now install alot of kde crap on it
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| 09:16 | <nubae> well at least QT yeah
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| 09:16 | <jrock2004> I have 25 users on 2 LTSP servers
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| 09:17 | I mean opera has been doing good except this lock error people get
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| 09:17 | I would use mozilla but drop downs take 6 seconds to come down and from what I read this is an open bug
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| 09:19 | <Gadi> jrock2004: write a wrapper script that checks if there is a lock file and if there is no ther instance of opera running for that user, deletes it
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| 09:19 | before launching opera
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| 09:21 | if [ -r "$HOME/path/to/lock/file" ] && ! pgrep -u $USER opera >/dev/null; then rm "$HOME/path/to/lock/file"; fi; opera $*
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| 09:22 | <jrock2004> Gadi: Thank you for the script
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| 09:23 | <Gadi> np - WARNING: that is precaffeinated/untested/starter stuff
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| 09:23 | :)
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| 09:25 | <ogra> there is a workaround for the libxcb bug with setting an env var
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| 09:25 | <Gadi> ogra: I think epsas reported back that that didnt really work
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| 09:25 | <ogra> i thought he said it worked
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| 09:25 | <Gadi> he did
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| 09:25 | and then he said it didn't
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| 09:25 | <ogra> ah
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| 09:25 | <Gadi> not sure what to believe
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| 09:26 | * ogra hopes he reported that on the bug | |
| 09:26 | <Gadi> I know I have seen the first right click be slow and then the subsequent ones be fast
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| 09:26 | most likely due to caching
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| 09:26 | <ogra> yeah, and the var sets the cache size
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| 09:26 | <Gadi> right
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| 09:26 | still wouldn't help the first one
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| 09:26 | :)
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| 09:27 | <ogra> right
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> so, Im sure we will get lots of reports of:
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| 09:27 | it works
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| 09:27 | it doesnt work
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| 09:27 | it works
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| 09:27 | it doesnt work
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| 09:27 | :)
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| 09:27 | <ogra> heh
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| 09:27 | yeah
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> stupid 'puters
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| 09:28 | * ogra wonders why opera would have locking probs though if the users are properly set up | |
| 09:28 | <jrock2004> I was looking at a different browser called midori
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| 09:28 | It is a lightweight browser
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| 09:28 | <ogra> midori uses gecko
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| 09:28 | so will be the same issue as FF
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| 09:28 | <jrock2004> ah
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| 09:29 | <ogra> there is an epiphany version thats webkit based ... that might be better but probably less stable
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| 10:35 | <treyh> /join #virtualbox
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| 10:35 | oops
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| 10:35 | lol
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| 11:46 | <alkisg> I'm trying to keep pxelinux.cfg/default from being modified on updates. I got this far:
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| 11:47 | ltsp-update-kernels copies tftpboot dir from chroot to /var/lib/tftpboot, along with pxelinux.cfg/default on it
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| 11:48 | <alkisg> /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels creates chroot/boot/pxelinux.cfg/default,
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| 11:48 | But I don't know what calls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels... any help?
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| 11:49 | (I could use chattr, but I'm looking for the "correct" way, and I think that would be /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf...)
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| 11:51 | <martin__> Hi, can somebody help me, my client gets an IP Address on PXE boot, but it says PXE File size 0 buffer 5..... and arp timeout.
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| 11:51 | I used this Howto http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LTSP/lts.conf
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| 11:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> has anyone ever had an issue where monitor output from a thin client appears upside-down with backwards characters?
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| 11:52 | <cliebow> turn it around the other weay 8~)
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| 11:53 | <treyh> _UsUrPeR_: wow thats strange, what kind of video?
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| 11:53 | martin__: is your ltsp server in an existing network or a separate test network?
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| 11:53 | <_UsUrPeR_> treyh: intel video output
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| 11:53 | <martin__> seperate test network
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| 11:54 | <treyh> _UsUrPeR_: hold down the right alt+ctrl and push the arrow keys, might rotate it properly
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| 11:54 | <martin__> the router konfigured in the dhcp.conf is not accessable
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| 11:54 | <treyh> martin__: is there a dhcp server on the separate network?
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| 11:54 | <martin__> no
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| 11:54 | the address that the client gets is the right one
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| 11:55 | <_UsUrPeR_> treyh: hmm... That had no effect on my ubuntu 8.04 server... Is that a new feature in 9.04?
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| 11:55 | <treyh> martin__, what are the ip's of the ltsp server
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| 11:55 | <martin__> 192.168.1.14
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| 11:55 | router is 192.168.1.1
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| 11:55 | <treyh> _UsUrPeR_: no, never tried it under linux, works in windwos to flip the screen if you have a video that supports it
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| 11:55 | <martin__> client gets 192.168.1.32
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| 11:55 | <_UsUrPeR_> treyh: ahh :)
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| 11:55 | <treyh> martin__, did you use the alternate installer?
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| 11:56 | martin__: what distro you using and did you use the alternate installer?
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| 11:56 | <martin__> no, i used sudo ltsp-build-client
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| 11:56 | xubuntu 9.04
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| 11:56 | <treyh> martin__: how many network cards do you have and what distro
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| 11:56 | <martin__> one
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| 11:56 | <alkisg> martin__: can you upload your dhcpd.conf to pastebot?
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| 11:56 | !pastebot
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| 11:56 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 11:56 | <martin__> !pastebot
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| 11:56 | <ltspbot> martin__: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 11:57 | <treyh> _UsUrPeR_: looks like in linux it's the RandR extension, you using gnome or kde?
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| 11:57 | in kde in the control center you can flip the screen
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| 11:57 | not sure about gnome
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| 11:58 | <ltsppbot> Someone pasted "/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf" (34 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/345
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| 11:59 | <martin__> i have changed: filename "/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.0
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| 11:59 | the client gets the address of alice
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| 11:59 | <alkisg> martin__: and do you actually have that file?
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| 12:00 | martin__: that would be in /var/lib/tftpboot/opt/ltsp/i386...
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| 12:00 | <martin__> yes
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| 12:00 | <alkisg> The filename you put there should be under /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 12:00 | <martin__> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14776 2009-05-18 17:12 /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.0
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| 12:00 | <alkisg> So no, you don't have that file...
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| 12:00 | martin__: again: under /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 12:00 | <martin__> ok
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| 12:00 | <alkisg> So change the filename
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| 12:01 | Or put it in /var/lib/tftpboot/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.0
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| 12:05 | martin__: let me say that again because I didn't say it well. The tftp dir is in /var/lib/tftpboot. So, whatever filename you specify in dhcpd.conf, is assumed to be under this directory. So now that you specified /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.0, the system looks at it in /var/lib/tftpboot/opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.0.
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| 12:13 | <martin__> is this right: filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 12:14 | <alkisg> Yes, that maps to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:19 | <ltsppbot> Someone pasted "PXE Message" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/346
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| 12:22 | <alkisg> martin__: do you have this file? ls -la /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:22 | <martin__> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14776 2009-05-18 17:12 /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:23 | <alkisg> and, could you upload your modified dhcpd.conf, to make sure it's ok?
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| 12:24 | <ltsppbot> Someone pasted "dhcp.conf" (34 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/347
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| 12:24 | <alkisg> and, did you restart the dhcp3-server? sudo invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
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| 12:25 | <martin__> yes
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| 12:25 | <alkisg> ok, which tftp server do you use? tftpd-hpa?
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| 12:25 | <martin__> yes
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| 12:25 | <alkisg> What does this give? grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
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| 12:25 | <martin__> RUN_DAEMON="yes"
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| 12:25 | OPTIONS="-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 12:26 | #tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 12:26 | <alkisg> Ah, you don't run it by inetd?
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| 12:26 | <martin__> sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
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| 12:27 | <alkisg> I see a hash in front of tftp in inetd.conf, so it's commented out...
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| 12:27 | <martin__> yes it is written in the howto
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| 12:27 | <alkisg> Hmm? What how to? The one you pasted only mentioned lts.conf...
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| 12:28 | <martin__> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LTSP?highlight=ltsp
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| 12:29 | <alkisg> OK, I don't know why it says that, people usually run it from inetd.
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| 12:29 | <martin__> ok i uncomment it, and what then?
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| 12:30 | <alkisg> Also put the /etc/default/tftpd-hpa as it was?
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| 12:30 | (i.e. RUN_DAEMON="no")
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| 12:30 | <martin__> RUN_DAEMON="yes"
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| 12:30 | OPTIONS="-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot"
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| 12:31 | <alkisg> and restart inetd... sudo invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart
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| 12:32 | <martin__> ok I try, one moment...
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| 12:34 | it doesn't work :(
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| 12:34 | <alkisg> Still the same error?
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| 12:34 | (did you put RUN_DAEMON="yes") ?
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| 12:34 | eerrrr no?
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| 12:36 | <martin__> yes
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| 12:36 | "no"
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| 12:36 | and the same error
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| 12:36 | strange, I did it exactly as it is written in the howto
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| 12:37 | <alkisg> I don't know why there is a how-to, sudo apt-get install ltsp-server(-standalone) is all that it takes...
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| 12:37 | OK. Maybe you could try it locally first: `sudo apt-get install tftp-hpa` to install a tftp client, and then `tftp localhost` and `get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0`
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| 12:38 | <martin__> perhaps it works if I install xubuntu 8.04
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| 12:39 | tftp> get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:39 | tftp>
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> So that works ok?
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| 12:39 | <martin__> I don' know, there is no message
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> If you leave the tftp client, you see that it transferred the file?
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| 12:39 | (i.e. there's a pxelinux.0 in the current dir)
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| 12:40 | <martin__> yes
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| 12:40 | it is there
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> So your tftp works fine...
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| 12:40 | <martin__> perhaps I must declare the tftp server in the dhcp.conf?
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| 12:41 | <alkisg> Isn't it in the same machine?
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| 12:41 | <martin__> yes
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| 12:41 | but there is a router 192.168.1.1
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| 12:41 | <alkisg> Heh
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| 12:41 | next-server 192.168.1.1;
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| 12:41 | That's the tftp server...
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| 12:41 | So if it's the router, it's wrong.
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| 12:42 | <martin__> ok, I'll try :)
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| 12:48 | <martin__> it woooooooooorrrkkss!!!!111 :)
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| 12:48 | <alkisg> Nice :)
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| 13:11 | <jaime_david> Hi, i'm using K12Linux
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| 13:14 | <jaime_david> Hi alkisg
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| 13:14 | <alkisg> Hello
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| 13:14 | <jaime_david> You answered my question once, it was about flow control
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| 13:15 | <alkisg> Ah, I saw that on the mailing list, really helpful trick
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| 13:15 | <jaime_david> I told you I had 10/100 clients, a 1000 server connected to a 1000 switch
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| 13:16 | but if the clients just had 10 MBit nics would that still work??
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| 13:16 | <alkisg> Hmmm I guess so, but it would be really slow with 10 mbit clients...
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| 13:17 | <jaime_david> they use old 10 mb isa cards you think so??
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| 13:18 | Well I guess I'll find out when I try it ... Thanks
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| 13:18 | <alkisg> Well, 100mbps nics are at about 5 €, and gigabit nics at 8 €... does it worth it/
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| 13:18 | ?
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| 13:19 | <jaime_david> i've got maybe 25 of them... really old computers
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| 13:20 | I don't know I'll try and see if it's useable
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| 13:20 | <alkisg> jaime_david: other client specs?
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| 13:20 | ram, cpu...
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| 13:21 | <jaime_david> Pent II 350 MHz, 128 RAM, 4 MB Graphic cards, hehe
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| 13:22 | <alkisg> They're just fine... Mine are like that, I've put them gigabit nics on one lab, they're able to transfer about 150mbps (cpu limit)
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| 13:22 | On the other lab I have 100mbps nics, also fine. But with 10mbps you won't be able to use them properly...
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| 13:24 | <jaime_david> ah! very good then...
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| 13:24 | <alkisg> (and their CPU is quite old, so you'll need LDM_DIRECTX=true)
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| 13:25 | <jaime_david> what's that again ? no encryption??
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| 13:25 | <alkisg> yes
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| 13:25 | In lts.conf
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| 13:25 | <jaime_david> fine. thanks a lot man!!
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| 13:26 | <alkisg> yw
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| 13:27 | <jaime_david> bye!
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| 13:34 | <rjune> davidj: ping
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| 14:01 | <alkisg> Damn these gnome panel settings keep moving... Now they're in /var/lib/gconf/debian.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml >:o
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| 14:06 | <schregge> hi, i have some troubles with ltsp5 and jaunty. The clients are complaining about squashf:SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block 0x52a07
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| 14:07 | i already build a new squashfs image, but the error i still there....
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| 14:08 | sometimes the boot process looks ok, when i ssh into the client it looks that the filesystem is corrupted. (for example, ls is not found)
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| 14:25 | <Gadi> schregge: is it an old chroot?
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| 14:25 | ie, from previous distro?
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| 14:25 | <schregge> hmm, what do you mean with old chroot? its not from ltsp4.2
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| 14:25 | no
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| 14:25 | <Gadi> so, the chroot is jaunty, too?
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| 14:26 | <schregge> chroot is jaunty to
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| 14:26 | complete message stack: nbd0: Attempted send on closed socket
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| 14:26 | May 18 21:25:32 ltsp241.local kernel: [47917.625824] end_request: I/O error, dev nbd0, sector 676878
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| 14:26 | May 18 21:25:32 ltsp241.local kernel: [47917.625841] SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block 0x52a07
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| 14:26 | May 18 21:25:32 ltsp241.local kernel: [47917.625850] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read cache block [14a81e9b:
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| 14:27 | <Gadi> ah, its an nbd error
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| 14:27 | not a squashfs error
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| 14:27 | this persists even if you reboot the client?
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| 14:28 | (usually this happens when you update image and dont reboot the client)
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| 14:28 | <schregge> ok
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| 14:28 | the client booted up, but the last message is the nbd error (message appears only onced)
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| 14:30 | <Gadi> perhaps the network driver on that client is unstable?
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| 14:31 | or the switch in between is dropping "idle" connections
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| 14:31 | <schregge> hmm, i dont now, its an hp thinclinet and an via thinclient
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| 14:31 | ok, ist look like ok for know
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| 14:32 | but now i have still trouble with sane (segmentation fault)
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| 14:34 | <treyh> schregge: your setup is on real hardware correct, not inside virtualbox?
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| 14:35 | <schregge> ltsp server is domU under xen, clients are real
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| 14:35 | <treyh> ahhh
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| 14:35 | so you're virtualizing the ltsp server
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| 14:35 | when I've done that in the past, when using ubuntu, had to switch back to use nfs instead of nbd
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| 14:35 | <schregge> why ahhhh, everything was great, until yeasterday
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| 14:35 | <treyh> you running jaunty or intrepid
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| 14:36 | <schregge> debian Dom0, jaunty ltsp (domU)
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| 14:37 | <treyh> you can try switching to nfs
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| 14:37 | or
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| 14:37 | try changing the storage adapters in xen
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| 14:38 | never used xen
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| 14:38 | but someone said they got virtualbox to work using nbd
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| 14:38 | they changed the types of drives or something
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> Hmmm? vbox runs fine with nbd without modifications...
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| 14:39 | (host networking, not nat)
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| 14:39 | <treyh> mine didn't
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| 14:39 | buut i was using intrepid not jaunty
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| 14:39 | and I used the alternate cd
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| 14:39 | <schregge> and i have no clue, why i get these damn seg faults during scanadf...... gdb points me to Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
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| 14:39 | 0x00007f73fe2aa9e7 in ?? () from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> Yeah, been using it since 8.04 I think
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| 14:40 | <treyh> and the direct install
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| 14:40 | <alkisg> treyh: yeah... there's a message shown, but everything works fine
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| 14:40 | <treyh> alkisg: mine wouldn't finish booting....
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| 14:40 | til i switched to nfs
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> What kind of networking? host, internal...
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| 14:41 | <schregge> ok, thin client boots up ok, now i have to figure out the seg fault. btw, how can i switch back to nfs?
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> vagrantc: hi, do you happen to know how I can make changes to pxelinux.cfg/default persist updates? I see some references to /etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf in the code, but I'm not sure if that's the way to do it...
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| 14:43 | <Gadi> alkisg: ltsp-update-kernels is a bash script
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| 14:43 | you may want to read it to be sure
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> Gadi: sure... that didn't get me far though :(
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| 14:44 | <Gadi> oh
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| 14:44 | <vagrantc> well, there's ltsp-update-kernels, server-side, and there's also update-kernels, chroot side...
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| 14:45 | <alkisg> ltsp-update-kernels copies the tftpboot dir from the chroot, and update-kernels generates the boot dir in the chroot, but I couldn't find what calls update-kernels
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| 14:45 | <vagrantc> alkisg: depends on what sort of changes... if you just want to make bootprompt options changes, then you can set BOOTPROMPT_OPTS in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf ... if you want to make other changes, you'll just have to manually manage it at this point.
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| 14:46 | alkisg: currently, update-kernels gets called as a postinstall hook to kernel installation
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| 14:47 | <alkisg> vagrantc: ah, so it's called after a kernel update in the chroot?
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| 14:47 | <vagrantc> it *used* to be called from ltsp-update-kernels, too... but was removed at some point as it seemed extraneous... though i'm thinking it shouldn't be.
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| 14:47 | it made the code more complicated to detect if the chroot was a compatible architecture and chroot into it and such...
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| 14:48 | <alkisg> vagrantc: so if I specify PXELINUX_CMDLINE in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf, then it should persist all updates (even chroot updates), right?
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| 14:48 | <vagrantc> alkisg: maybe. it's been a while since i've looked into it.
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| 14:49 | it really needs a serious overhaul
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| 14:49 | <alkisg> Does that "update-kernels gets called as a postinstall hook to kernel installation" mean that it's called after a kernel upgrade in the chroot?
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| 14:49 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yes
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| 14:50 | <alkisg> OK, that's why I couldn't reproduce it... :) Thanks a lot vagrantc!
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| 14:51 | <vagrantc> alkisg: you can just run it manually
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> No, I meant that I wanted to find out when pxelinux.cfg/default gets overridden, and I run ltsp-update-kernels, ltsp-update-image etc but it wasn't overridden, and I wondered how it got overriden in the past (it happened to me once)
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| 14:52 | <vagrantc> i'd like to add support for things like memtest86+ and such and use an actual menu rather than hard-coding a single boot line
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| 14:53 | develop a plugin infrastructure for people to add their own defaults... shouldn't be too crazy difficult
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| 14:53 | <alkisg> Yeah, and a local boot menu item would be nice
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| 14:54 | <vagrantc> seeing as things seem overall fairly stable with LTSP, maybe now is a time to take it on.
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| 14:55 | <alkisg> I'm an eager alpha tester if you like! :)
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| 15:13 | <treyh> I would be more than happy to test stuff also
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| 15:14 | i get to spend the next 3 days updating about 50 TS's with office 2007....sigh
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| 15:19 | <vagrantc> hrm. so i don't know what to do about ldm's recent NOMAD patches. they just plain break for me. they work for cyberorg.
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| 15:19 | by recent, i guess early april.
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| 15:20 | i guess i could revert the change for a debian upload...
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| 15:24 | <Gadi> vagrantc: word to the wise: get 2 points before plotting a trajectory
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| 15:24 | <vagrantc> Gadi: hrm?
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| 15:25 | <Gadi> find someone else to test nomad patches on debian
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| 15:26 | <vagrantc> or ubuntu, for that matter.
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| 15:26 | and fedora
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| 15:27 | i haven't tried them in a while, either. maybe it's working now.
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| 15:28 | the revision that broke it for me: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ldm-trunk/revision/1155/src/ldm.c
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| 15:45 | <Mip5> Hey Gang - I can't seem to boot into a newly install Jaunty LTSP with / on md0, RAID1 - I get initramfs
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| 15:46 | mdadm --examine scan /dev/sda1 shows: ARRAY /dev/md0 level-raid1 num-devices=3 UUID=.... lots of number ;-)
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| 15:47 | I should add that the above command also shows: mdadm: CREATE user root not found, and group disk not found
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| 15:49 | <Lns> Mip5: so...you can't boot the server, or the clients?
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| 15:49 | <Mip5> Lns - right - the server boots to GRUB, then stalls and drops me to initramfs prompt
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| 15:49 | I've rebooted to see if I could check stuff in GRUB. THoughts?
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| 15:50 | <vagrantc> try with rootdelay=20
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| 15:50 | might be trying to assemble your md arrays before the disks are fully recognized.
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| 15:51 | <Mip5> vagrantc - where would I put that, appended to the line of grub menu item?
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| 15:51 | <vagrantc> Mip5: yes.
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| 15:51 | <Mip5> vagrantc - that makes sense, b/c ls /dev/md* shows both md0 and md1
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| 15:52 | okay - 'll give it a shot
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| 15:54 | <alkisg> Arghhh Ubuntu doesn't have "patch" included by default... now my method to include a keyboard-language applet for all users will have to start with `sudo apt-get install patch` :(
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| 15:55 | <Mip5> vagrantc - it sad "Gave up waiting for a root file system" - but then it continued on, and I see md: bind<sdb5> md: bind<sdc5>...
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| 15:56 | vagrantc it didn't seem to wait long, so I'm not sure I passed the boot param of rootdelay=20 correctly. Should I give a bigger number? Should I edit the menu.list file?
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| 15:59 | <Mip5> vagrantc - I mounted /dev/md0 onto a directory called md0, and tried to chroot to it (chroot md0)
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| 16:00 | I get no prompt, but if I ls, I can see stuff. I would have expected a prompt, though.
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| 16:02 | I was able to edit menu.lst and add rootdelay=20 to the kernel line (2nd to last line of the stanza). Let's see what we get......
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| 16:06 | <Mip5> Splash screen stalled at waiting for root file system, then "Gave up..." I do see raid1: raid set md0 active with 3 out of 3 mirrors. I'll increase the delay and see what happens
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| 16:07 | <vagrantc> Mip5: so it's getting farther, but still not quite enough?
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| 16:09 | <Mip5> vagrantc - hard to tell, it still drops to initramfs. I just edited the kernel line with rootdelay=200
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| 16:10 | Bingo! - it's going
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| 16:10 | I'm in!
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| 16:10 | Excellent!
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| 16:11 | <vagrantc> i had a similar problem on a number of debian lenny servers...
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| 16:11 | <Mip5> vagrantc - strange - I've had this problem for days, and didn't see a reference to giving it more time. Thanks for the tip!
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| 16:13 | vagrantc - I'd like to have the machine boot off any of the drives in the mirror. I was planning to install grub to each disk manually. Is this a good idea? Is there someway I can check to see whether this is still necessary?
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| 16:15 | <vagrantc> Mip5: i know in recent versions of debian-installer, it shouldn't be necessary. haven't tested it yet.
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| 16:23 | <Mip5> vagrantc - I read that it is no longer necessary, but wanted to *verify* that. I'll poke around. Thanks again for your help!
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| 16:52 | <Mip5> Gotta run - thanks all.
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| 17:48 | <vagrantc> tagging ldm-trunk 2.0.40 ...
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