00:07 | <highvoltage> vagrantc: hmm, /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf doesn't seem to be used on debian if it exists
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00:10 | <vagrantc> highvoltage: nope
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00:11 | i do recall including some documentation to add an include line to /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
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00:12 | https://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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00:14 | <highvoltage> I just like having it easy for everyone :)
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00:15 | * vagrantc thinks having /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf be silently ignored is a bad idea | |
00:15 | <vagrantc> i generally prefer dnsmasq anyways :)
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00:15 | <highvoltage> heh
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10:31 | <davew> Anyone know anything about menu editor whereby clients screens can be set up for members of groups
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13:58 | <jammcq> knipwim: ping
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14:03 | <ogra_> hey jammcq
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14:06 | <knipwim> jammcq: pong
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14:07 | <prpplague> jammcq: hey there
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14:15 | <jammcq> prpplague: HEY !!!
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14:15 | how's it going
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14:15 | <prpplague> jammcq: going pretty good!
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14:15 | <jammcq> knipwim: hey, sbalneav has created an account on the wiki but i'm unable to grant him admin rights
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14:15 | somehow I don't have permission to do that
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14:15 | <prpplague> jammcq: was in a meeting last week and somone asked "anyone have experience with thin client and LTSP?" hehe
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14:15 | <jammcq> prpplague: I was following your google+ for a while. seems like you've landed yourself a pretty nice job
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14:15 | hahahah
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14:16 | <prpplague> jammcq: yea its doing pretty well, we'll see if there renew my contract in the fall
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14:16 | <knipwim> jammcq: okay, i'll look into it
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14:16 | <jammcq> knipwim: I am still in the 'administrators' group
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14:16 | I just can't do that one thing
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14:16 | <prpplague> jammcq: not following me anymore? hehe
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14:17 | <jammcq> knipwim: maybe I need to be in the 'Beureucrats' group
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14:17 | prpplague: having problems with g+ multiple accounts, apps for business issues
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14:17 | I can't keep track of g+ anymore
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14:17 | <prpplague> jammcq: ahh
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14:17 | jammcq: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/21/hp-passport-1912nm-internet-monitor/
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14:17 | <jammcq> one day I'll figure it all out
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14:17 | <prpplague> jammcq: got to do some testing for network booting for that
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14:18 | jammcq: i need to setup the latest LTSP and do a few tests with it
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14:18 | <jammcq> wow
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14:18 | <highvoltage> stgraber: do you have any thoughts on changing the default ip range in ubuntu for ltsp to 192.168.67.0?
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14:19 | <knipwim> jammcq: yeah think so
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14:19 | jammcq: you have the admin account?
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14:19 | <jammcq> knipwim: ah yeah
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14:19 | I do
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14:19 | I'll fix it
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14:20 | duh
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14:20 | <knipwim> tell scott i'm in the web channel if he wants to discuss things
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14:20 | <prpplague> jammcq: it's OMAP4430 based, pretty low power and really nice
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14:21 | jammcq: only problem is the net connection is via USB, so there are few things i have to do get it all booting from network
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14:22 | <stgraber> highvoltage: how will you deal with upgrades?
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14:22 | <jammcq> knipwim: all set. we are all bureaucrats now :)
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14:22 | stgraber: hey, any word on UDS in the fall ?
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14:22 | <stgraber> jammcq: 99% sure it'll be in Europe
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14:23 | <prpplague> jammcq: you making it out to any conferences in the fall?
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14:23 | <highvoltage> stgraber: hmm, I guess for old systems it should keep it like it is, but yeah I don't want to think about it right now so I guess I'll take it all back :)
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14:24 | <stgraber> highvoltage: thanks :)
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14:24 | <jammcq> stgraber: any word on dates?
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14:24 | <stgraber> jammcq: yeah, I believe we have the dates also somewhere around 90% sure, let me check quickly
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14:24 | <jammcq> tanks
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14:25 | <stgraber> jammcq: 29th of October to 2nd of November
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14:31 | <jammcq> stgraber: awesome, thanks
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14:31 | and that's about 90% reliable?
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14:32 | <prpplague> jammcq: hows biz on your end of things?
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14:33 | <stgraber> jammcq: yeah, so far that's what we know internally. As far as I know they haven't signed with the conference center yet, so it may change but is pretty unlikely.
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14:33 | <jammcq> prpplague: it's been a pretty tight couple of years, but i'm seeing some light at the end of the tunnel
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14:33 | <prpplague> jammcq: oh? general economy stuff?
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14:33 | <jammcq> stgraber: so... because it's in europe, we should allow some time between UDS and BTS
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14:34 | prpplague: yeah... when times got tough in 2008, we were still doing really well. it didn't hit us until 2010, but it hit pretty hard
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14:35 | <prpplague> jammcq: ahh
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14:35 | <jammcq> stgraber: so... we'd prolly shoot for Oct 18-21
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14:35 | or maybe nov 8-11
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14:36 | but... with that bad weather we saw last year on the last day, i'd vote for earlier
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14:36 | <stgraber> jammcq: earlier will be difficult for me because we release Ubuntu on the 18th, so it's a no-go
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14:36 | <jammcq> hmmm
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14:36 | that's bad
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14:36 | <stgraber> jammcq: and I'll likely already be in Europe at that time for release
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14:36 | <prpplague> jammcq: well if you make it to any of linux conferences in the fall be sure and let me know
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14:36 | <jammcq> well... maybe we need to do later then
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14:37 | prpplague: sure. I haven't had the pleasure of doing a conf it quite a while
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14:38 | <stgraber> jammcq: later would certainly work better for me or having it much earlier in October
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14:38 | <jammcq> stgraber: hmm, later might be a problem for the seawall
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14:38 | how early would you like?
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14:39 | stgraber: what if it was Oct 4-7 ?
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14:39 | <stgraber> jammcq: looking at the calendar, the first weekend of October would be best I think (4-7)
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14:40 | <jammcq> heh
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14:41 | <stgraber> jammcq: but I'm not the only attendee so it's certainly worth poking the usual others too :)
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14:41 | highvoltage, ogra_: ^
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14:43 | mgariepy: ^
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14:45 | * ogra_ isnt sure if he comes | |
14:45 | <highvoltage> stgraber: it's cutting it a bit close to releast time don't you think?
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14:45 | <ogra_> i would actually prefer to have a BTS in europe this time :P
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14:45 | right, we'll be busy for exactly the three weeks around the release
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14:45 | <jammcq> ogra_: you get canonical to sponsor us and we'll go anywhere you want :)
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14:46 | <stgraber> highvoltage: yeah, it does, I wouldn't mind having it mid-September FWIW but not sure how that'd work for other people
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14:46 | <sbalneav> Morning all.
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14:46 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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14:46 | <ogra_> jammcq, stgraber's job ... he owns LTSP in ubuntu now :P
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14:46 | <sbalneav> Got my first cut of the docbooktowiki script going.
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14:46 | <stgraber> ogra_: hehe, I do as long as it's on my spare time (or when it's messed up enough that the alternate images no longer build) :)
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14:47 | <ogra_> (though its the same manager we would have to ask so it doesnt really matter to whom he says no i guess )
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14:47 | <sbalneav> http://server.ltsp.org/wiki/LTSPManual
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14:47 | <highvoltage> stgraber: I guess there's a chance I could just not make bts this year but I'll survive :)
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14:47 | <sbalneav> Looks like crap right now, but it's actively parsing the XML, and at least getting some structure out there.
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14:48 | <jammcq> highvoltage: what's the different if you work on the release stuff in montreal or maine?
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14:49 | <ogra_> HW access ?
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14:49 | <highvoltage> jammcq: I could do it in maine, it would just mean that I'd be physically present but my mind wouldn't :)
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14:49 | <jammcq> if he's having hw problems, seems like bts would be the best place
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14:50 | <highvoltage> jammcq: I already felt bad last time for being so distracted by other stuff :)
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14:51 | <ogra_> i didnt say HW problems ...
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14:52 | if i would want to do release testing in maine i would have to carry two extra suitcases for all the HW i need fo rteh different arm arches i test
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14:52 | <mgariepy> for me mid sept would be nice ;)
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14:52 | <stgraber> mgariepy: that'd work quite well for me too actually (I've got stuff in August and stuff in October/November but September is completely free, well, besides usual work)
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14:53 | <jammcq> I think earlier becomes a problem for the seawall. we can usually get in there because the tourist season is over
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14:53 | <highvoltage> the make-a-wish cycle thingy is happening on 14-16 sept so that would be a bad time for me
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14:53 | <jammcq> usually into about mid-oct
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14:53 | not even sure we can do oct 4
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14:54 | * jammcq is calling the seawall right now | |
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14:55 | <jordanm> does graphics rendering occur on the server side? The manual doesn't mention any video card requirements
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14:55 | <ogra_> jammcq, please ask about speedbump !
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14:55 | jammcq, they removed his pic from the website and i'm worried !
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14:55 | <jammcq> ok, dave's not in right now. talked to Mindy
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14:56 | remember her? she's the one that used to be a waitress at the breakfast place
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14:56 | <ogra_> yep
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14:56 | <jammcq> the one that likes Ron so much
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14:56 | <ogra_> the one e asked for a ride
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14:56 | <jammcq> yeah
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14:56 | anyway, I can talk to Dave later today to begin nailing down a date
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14:56 | <ogra_> (and she was to scared ny driving around with ron, so we had to take a taxi) :P
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14:57 | well, plkease ask about speedy (and tell them their new website is horrid)
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14:57 | <jammcq> she's the manager at the seawall now
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14:57 | <ogra_> cool !
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14:57 | <jammcq> jordanm: all rendering happens wherever the monitor is plugged in
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14:58 | <ogra_> well ...
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14:58 | depends on the technology
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14:58 | <jammcq> well... a fancy graphics card in the server doesn't do much
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14:59 | <ogra_> indeed
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15:00 | <ogra_> but a properly written GL app would for example speed up rendering a lot since the server only needs to send vectro changes across the net
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15:00 | *vector
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15:00 | but indeed the final rendering will still happen on the client
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15:13 | <jordanm> jammcq: ogra_: thanks for the info
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15:14 | I am trying to determine why the clients are "slugish". I am only testing a single client at a time, on a machine well above recommended specs. resource usage is low and the network is 1Gb/s, not sure what else to look at
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15:18 | <ogra_> did you try LDM_DIRECTX ?
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15:21 | <jordanm> ogra_: no, I will give that a try
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18:20 | <highvoltage> so.
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18:21 | <Hyperbyte> .os
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19:00 | <dead_inside> so.os
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20:05 | <ball> Anyone here understand xdm, xdmcp and the "chooser"?
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20:10 | <Hyperbyte> !ask
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20:10 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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20:12 | <ball> OK then. :-) I need to learn how to use the "chooser" but I don't have a manpage for it and it doesn't seem to recognize -help, -version etc. Although i'm not using it in an ltsp environment, ltsp uses X terminals (I'm told) so I thought perhaps someone here might know.
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20:46 | <ball> Aha, perhaps it's not finding xdmcp on my LAN
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20:47 | Does an LTSP server run that?
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20:57 | <ball> Is it difficult to install ltsp on an existing Linux box?
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21:06 | <knipwim> not really
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21:06 | depends a bit on the os
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21:08 | <ball> She's running Qimo, which is a Xubuntu-derivative
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21:10 | <knipwim> and you want to run an ltsp-server on it?
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21:10 | <ball> knipwim: Eventually perhaps. It would be nice for her to be able to open a session on it from elsewhere in the house
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21:10 | <knipwim> take a look in the package manager to see if an ltsp package is available
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21:11 | <ball> ltsp-server, apprently.
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21:11 | Let's try that.
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21:12 | Out of interest though, is there some way to make gdm offer XDMCP ?
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21:12 | <knipwim> sorry, not my field of expertise
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21:13 | <ball> OK. I'm installing the ltsp-server package
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21:24 | <Hyperbyte> ball, sure...
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21:24 | Try googling a bit
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21:24 | I know that's a cheap answer, but there's tons of documentation on xdmcp.
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21:25 | Heck, there's even a special page for it on the Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/xdmcp
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21:25 | I'm thinking you're taking a bit overkill approach though
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21:25 | If you want to take over a session from somewhere else in the house, I'd suggest VNC or NX.
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21:26 | Personally, I run a VNC desktop on my network server at home. It has my mail programs, notes and even this IRC client running in it. :)
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21:26 | <ball> We have VNC in place and working now. I was hoping to try X too though.
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21:27 | <Hyperbyte> I can even use my Android phone to connect to my VNC desktop. ;-)
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21:27 | <ball> I've been trying to build an X terminal, but I'm not making much progress
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21:27 | ...mostly I think because I don't know how to bring up xdmcp on the Linux box
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21:28 | <ball> This is partly for use at home, but also because I want to understand thin clients and X terminals for use at the office.
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21:28 | <Hyperbyte> Well, luckily I just gave you a link with lots of information. And you can find lots more on Google. So... good luck! ;-)
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21:28 | I'm off to bed.
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21:28 | <ball> Thanks for the link.
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21:29 | <Hyperbyte> Good luck... if you need more help, feel free to ask here...
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21:29 | <ball> Thanks
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21:58 | <alkisg> Anyone knows which component is responsible for showing the user name in the upper panel in gnome-session-fallback? It's not working in fat clients...
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