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Channel log from 8 February 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:59 | <mgariepy> good morning everybody
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| 08:03 | <davy> hello
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| 08:04 | huuum anybody there ? :)
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| 08:05 | <robehend1> hello
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| 08:08 | <davy> i'm using ltsp on an ubuntu box and i try to figure out how to provide many languages to the users
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| 08:11 | when the user arrive on the ldm screen, if we want to choose the language the only choice is "default"
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| 08:12 | i tried to install some language packs on the server and in the chroot but it doesn't work
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| 08:18 | <robehend1> out of my range, sadly :(
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| 08:21 | <davy> ok thank you anyway :)
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| 08:25 | <robehend1> hmm, it appears that Sabayon is back to working reliably, in edubuntu 10.04
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| 09:20 | <pierro118> Hello, can someone help me with LTSP? Our teacher told us to install LTSP on our computer and do something with it. Unfortunately, my parter and me don't know how to install it or what we can use it for.
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| 09:28 | <pierro118> Hello, can someone help me with LTSP? Our teacher told us to install LTSP on our computer and do something with it. Unfortunately, my parter and me don't know how to install it or what we can use it for.
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| 10:01 | <vvinet> pierro118: have you read the docs?
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| 10:01 | <pierro118> I made some research, but where are those docs?
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| 10:03 | <vvinet> !docs
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| 10:03 | <ltspbot> vvinet: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 10:03 | <vvinet> even better than the google!
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| 10:25 | <pierro118> Thanks, vvinet, I'll look at that soon. :-)
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| 10:37 | <[GuS]> Hi guys, i have problems trying to boot a client on a recently and latest installation of LTSP5 on gentoo: http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9297/ltsp5gentoo.png
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| 10:39 | any tip?
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| 10:39 | <alkisg> No idea about Gentoo, but it looks like the cow mechanism didn't work
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| 10:39 | (before the screenshot you pasted)
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| 10:40 | So it's a read only file system, so the initscripts won't work properly
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| 10:40 | tmpfs + aufs, whatever Gentoo is using
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| 10:41 | <knipwim> hmm, last time i checked, gentoo works out of the box
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| 10:41 | <[GuS]> :S
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| 10:41 | <knipwim> are you using this: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/LTSP ?
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| 10:42 | <[GuS]> Indeed, is not the first time i install it on Gentoo, it is weird
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| 10:43 | should i rebuild the client?
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| 10:43 | <dberkholz> i wonder if there's something unusual a bit farther up that would provide more detail on why that happened
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| 10:45 | <[GuS]> And i cant see nothing on logs that can tell me that :S
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| 10:46 | <knipwim> almost looks like ltsp-client-setup didn't start by default
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| 10:46 | but indeed, can't be sure
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| 10:48 | <crazed> so if i have a thin client that supports a higher resolution than my monitors, how do i force the resolution size?
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| 10:49 | seems this thin client likes to default to 16:10 aspect ratio, when my monitor is 1920x1080 (1080p)
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| 10:49 | <alkisg> crazed: on the client, run: xrandr
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| 10:49 | And put the results to pastebin
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| 10:50 | <[GuS]> well, I wil try to build it again...
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| 10:51 | <crazed> alkisg: http://ltsp.pastebin.com/SWcsb4E5
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| 10:51 | <crazed> eventually there will be two attached
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| 10:52 | <knipwim> [GuS]: which version do you have?
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| 10:52 | <alkisg> crazed: so your *current* resolution is 1920x1080, what resolution do you want?!
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| 10:52 | <knipwim> of ltsp-server?
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| 10:52 | <crazed> alkisg: i want that resolution, but on boot it comes up with 16:10, i had to attach a monitor capable and lower it to the right resolution to attach my monitors
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| 10:52 | <[GuS]> knipwim: latest, as mention in the wiki
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| 10:52 | 5.2.5
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| 10:53 | <alkisg> crazed: on boot? You mean the splash screen, before X is started?
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| 10:53 | <crazed> even when X is started
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| 10:53 | <alkisg> crazed: 16:10? What's the exact resolution?
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| 10:53 | <crazed> i cannot see the ogin screen either
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| 10:54 | <knipwim> check :)
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| 10:54 | <crazed> alkisg: i'm not sure it does not say right now that i have the 1080p monitor attached
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| 10:54 | but if i am to reboot, i will get a "incompatible resolution" error on my monitors
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| 10:55 | <alkisg> crazed: I'm not sure I'm following. So you're saying that when it boots it has a resolution greater than 1920x1080?
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| 10:55 | <crazed> alkisg: yes, i blieve it is 1920 x 16:10
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| 10:56 | er 1920 x1200 *
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| 10:56 | <alkisg> It would be listed in xrandr then. Weird.
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| 10:56 | But do try setting XRANDR_MODE_0=1920x1080 in lts.conf
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| 10:56 | And see if that fixes it
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| 10:56 | <crazed> will that effect all thin clients
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> If you put it under [Default], yes. If you put it under [Mac address], no.
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| 10:57 | <crazed> ah true
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| 10:57 | let me give that a try
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| 11:18 | <crazed> alkisg: hm i gave it a boot now it comes up as 1024x786 http://ltsp.pastebin.com/sCn6HHeF
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| 11:19 | <alkisg> crazed: was the resolution different before you logged in? (i.e. in LDM)?
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| 11:20 | <crazed> no
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| 11:20 | <alkisg> From the same user/terminal, type: cat ~/.config/monitors.xml
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| 11:20 | <crazed> it went to 1024x768 right away
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| 11:20 | the thin client term or from the server
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| 11:20 | <alkisg> It doesn't matter as long as it is the same user
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| 11:20 | Do it on the thin client
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| 11:21 | Do you have such a file? (are you using gnome?)
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| 11:21 | <crazed> alkisg: http://ltsp.pastebin.com/Tad2g9E5
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| 11:21 | i'm using gnome currently to fix this, but i usually use awesome, which basically will read gnome's settings
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| 11:21 | <alkisg> crazed: ok. Now do: rm ~/.config/monitors.xml
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| 11:21 | Logoff and then logon again.
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| 11:22 | I think that the 1024x768 resolution was applied from your gnome settings
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| 11:22 | <crazed> okay
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| 11:24 | alkisg: sweet, it's the right res now. now i need to reboot with the right monitor attached
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| 11:24 | and pray it works
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| 11:30 | alkisg: crap now it doesn't display 1920x1080 as an option in xrandr, 1360x768 is the highest
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| 11:30 | no monitors.xml
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| 11:30 | <alkisg> crazed: and are you sure this monitor supports 1920x1080?
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| 11:34 | <alkisg> crazed: one simple way to check is to boot with the "good" monitor, and then switch to the "bad" monitor without rebooting
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| 11:35 | If it reports that it supports 1360x768 though, I doubt that it supports 1920x1080.
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| 11:35 | <crazed> alkisg: it supports 1920x1080, i tried booting with the good and switching to the bad, everything is working this way
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| 11:35 | just seems annoying that i'd need to do that to use these
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| 11:36 | <alkisg> crazed: ok. Then try this:
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| 11:36 | <crazed> i couldn't boot with a standard 19inch monitor either
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| 11:36 | <alkisg> In lts.conf, under that mac address section, keep XRANDR_MODE_0, but also add:
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> X_HORZSYNC=30-150
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| 11:37 | X_VERTREFRESH=59-61
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| 11:37 | <crazed> hm alright
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> Reboot the client again, with the "bad" monitor plugged into it
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| 11:37 | <crazed> will this fix the initrd image, or do i have to wait for ldm/x to get there before i should see results
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> Wait for ldm/x
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| 11:37 | <crazed> okay
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| 11:43 | <crazed> alkisg: thank you tons
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| 11:44 | that worked perfectly
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| 11:44 | <alkisg> Nice :)
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| 11:44 | It's a shame that monitors don't send correct EDIDs
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| 11:44 | <crazed> i'm going to document this, cuz i know lots of people are going to have this issue in the future
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| 11:44 | <alkisg> (or drivers can't collect them)
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| 11:44 | <crazed> also who knows what's going to happen when i get my display port => dvi adapter to hook up my secon dmonitor lol
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| 11:45 | <alkisg> Nice, put it in the wiki. The main idea is "tell X that the monitors supports very large timings, and use XRANDR_MODE_0 and XRANDR_RATE_0 to limit to the desired resolution"
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| 11:46 | If one put *exactly* the correct timings, then he won't need XRANDR_MODE_0 anymore
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| 11:46 | The correct one will be automatically used.
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| 11:46 | So after some experiments, you can only keep X_HORZSYNC / X_VERTREFRESH
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| 14:41 | <m4xx> i've updated the greeter to use glade and added options to hide language,session and shutdown options on popup menu. if anyone is interested. greeter.c: http://paste2.org/p/1236307 greeter.xml: http://paste2.org/p/1236313 greeter.glade: http://paste2.org/p/1236315
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| 14:49 | <vagrantc> it used to use glade
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| 14:49 | heh
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| 14:49 | thought we switched away from it because it was too slow or something
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| 14:50 | <m4xx> i just thought it would be heplful because it would allow for customizing the theme further
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| 14:51 | it seems to load about as fast as the non glade version
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| 15:05 | <irule> hi romomatic is down, will hell ever disapear? haha
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| 15:05 | is there a hard way to create my rom? :(
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| 15:16 | <alkisg> irule: I believe #etherboot is the correct place to ask :)
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| 15:17 | But if you just want gpxe.lkrn or floppy or iso, I've a PPA with those
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| 15:39 | <muppis> Neat. C800 w/ 256MB can play 480p at youtube almost smoothly..
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| 23:38 | <alkisg_web> !xauthority
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| 23:38 | <ltspbot`> alkisg_web: "xauthority" :: to access the client X session from a local root shell, try: eval $(tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$(pidof -s ldm gdm-simple-greeter gnome-session | cut -d' ' -f1)/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY=') && export DISPLAY XAUTHORITY
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