IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 January 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:31 | <kahvis> Could anyone help me with --mint-dist option? Where I should get /usr/share/mintsource/sylvia/mintsources.conf - file? ltsp-build-client crash there.
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| 09:33 | <alkisg> !ltsp-manager
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| 09:33 | <ltsp> ltsp-manager: LTSP Manager is a GUI tool that makes LTSP maintenance easy. It's the recommended way to install LTSP in common setups. More info: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager
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| 09:33 | <alkisg> kahvis: that's the best way to install ltsp ^
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| 09:34 | It basically uses the server installation as a template, so it doesn't even use ltsp-build-client at all
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| 09:34 | It works in mint too afaik
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| 09:34 | <kahvis> Thank you very much. I must to try that. I have been using terminal on ubuntu server to keep the server most light weight that I can.
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| 09:35 | <alkisg> No, since you need a desktop environment anyway on the server, install using the same mint that you'll use for the clients
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| 09:35 | <kahvis> It is still possible to build mint client on ubuntu?
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| 09:35 | <alkisg> There might be bugs, bennabiy added support for mint years ago but no ltsp dev is using mint
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| 09:35 | It's considered a bad distro, it doesn't respect debian policy etc
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| 09:35 | Usually ubuntu mate is suggested instead
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| 09:36 | <kahvis> Okey, maybe the easiest way is to go for linux mint.
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| 09:36 | <alkisg> Erm is "linux mint" different from "mint client on ubuntu"?
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| 09:36 | Ah you mean ubuntu server, ok
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| 09:37 | Yeah, it'll be easier with ltsp-manager on linuxmint
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| 09:37 | <kahvis> I tried Cinnamon desktop on Ubuntu gnome, it worked fine but it will need so much work for configuration.
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| 09:37 | <alkisg> What are your client specs?
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| 09:37 | CPU/RAM?
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| 09:37 | If you're using thin clients, you cannot really use opengl-based environments
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| 09:37 | If you're using ltsp fat clients, it's fine
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| 09:37 | <kahvis> There are bretty good, but i have thought to possibility to user also rasp3.
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| 09:38 | <alkisg> Raspberry pi 3 will work better on ubuntu mate with the mate environment, not cinnamon
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| 09:39 | <kahvis> It is sad, but cinnamon is most windows like desktop. For my project, the people whom using the system is very nontech people.
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| 09:39 | Maybe I should try to configure mate.
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| 09:40 | <alkisg> try mate with redmond panel
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| 09:40 | <kahvis> Thanks for help and sorry from my language.
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| 09:43 | Should I do one client-user for my self, make a configurations and copy right files from home folder to folder that copies files to every clients home folder. Then i give only read access to conf files?
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| 09:43 | like /etc/skel/
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| 09:47 | redmond looks good, thx.
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| 09:56 | <alkisg> kahvis: if you mean "set redmond for all users", this can be done centrally with a configuration in /usr
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| 09:57 | In general, it's not good practise to use /etc/skel, as it then may contain paths like /home/template-user, which will cause problems to /home/other-user
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| 09:59 | <kahvis> Ok :)
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| 10:00 | Is there any idea use ltsp-build-client instead of ltsp-manager on ubuntu mate?
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| 10:00 | Keeping ubuntu server free of desktop...
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| 10:01 | <alkisg> kahvis: you can use ltsp-manager in a template client, and copy the result
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| 10:01 | (or in a VM, e.g. virtualbox)
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| 13:20 | <galileoo> hello
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| 13:21 | is there someone connected here?
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| 13:21 | <kahvis> yes
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| 13:22 | <galileoo> kahvis I'm a french GNU/Linux user
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| 13:23 | <galileoo> someone ask me to repair is ltsp system
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| 13:23 | but I'm not common with it
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| 13:24 | the sympom is about clients they freeze when most of them are switch on
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| 13:24 | there is 1 server and 10 clients
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| 13:24 | mem was about 60% og 4Go
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| 13:25 | swap mem was about 63%
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| 13:25 | I will be in front of server only Thursday
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| 13:26 | <kahvis> Sorry, but I am newbie from Finland. :D
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| 13:26 | <galileoo> don't till have all informations
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| 13:26 | kahvis no problm ;-)
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| 13:27 | kahvis did you already install and use ltsp?
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| 13:30 | <kahvis> Actually I have tested it on ubuntu server few days. Just minimal lab with server and laptop.
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| 13:49 | Is that seperated home directory server and OpenLDAP server with ssl possible to implicate with NBD or only with NFS?
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| 14:42 | <kahvis> Anyone?
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| 14:44 | <tarzeau> check .xsession-errors ?
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| 14:44 | (of the users)
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| 14:44 | and dmesg -T on the server
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| 15:25 | <alkisg> kahvis: nbd and nfs can be used for /
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| 15:25 | (either one of them)
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| 15:25 | nfs or sshfs can be used for /home
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| 15:25 | nbd can't (normally) be used for /home
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| 15:26 | <kahvis> Thank you!
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| 15:28 | I have thought that I rent server for OpenLDAP and home directories. Keeping LTSP servers local. Then you might change LTSP server ( unit where are you working ) as a client. Am I right?
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| 15:28 | rented server is going to be in same VPN network.
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| 15:29 | <alkisg> kahvis: LDM_SERVER=server2
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| 15:29 | This means "login server", which then automatically is the home server
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| 15:29 | So, server1 can send NBD /, and server2 can serve SSHFS or NFS /home
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| 15:30 | About LDAP, you usually only configure it on the server, and the clients just authenticate against the server via ssh
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| 15:30 | <kahvis> Yeap, sounds like a plan.
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| 15:30 | <alkisg> So the clients themselves don't know anything about LDAP (in a usual setup)
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| 15:33 | <kahvis> There is a old guide at Ubuntu website for that. I hope it is up to date nowadays.
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| 15:34 | <alkisg> wiki.ltsp.org is mostly up to date
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| 15:34 | <kahvis> Actually it is some finn whom made that. So it is also in finnish :D
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| 15:34 | <alkisg> The ubuntu wiki is usually outdated
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| 15:34 | <kahvis> Okey, thanx.
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| 15:34 | <alkisg> Which page are you reading?
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| 15:35 | <kahvis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/
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| 15:35 | <alkisg> This isn't a page though, but a directory of pages
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| 15:35 | A couple of them are up to date, the rest aren't
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| 15:35 | <kahvis> alkisg, I tried that ltsp-manager, that is mostly for user managment?
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| 15:36 | <alkisg> See on top, "Notice: These pages are no longer maintained and/or contain outdated information - Please refer to the official upstream LTSP-Wiki for current documentation"
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| 15:36 | <kahvis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/OpenLDAP_NFS_SSL
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| 15:36 | <alkisg> Not just for user management, it automatically solves many ltsp configuration issues
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| 15:37 | kahvis: last modification 2009
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| 15:37 | You don't want to follow that :)
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| 15:37 | <kahvis> I haven't had those. I looked up that initial setup script throught.
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| 15:37 | <alkisg> asmok was active here 10 years ago, yeah, but not in recent years
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| 15:40 | <DonkeyHotei> muekow
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> Hehe, ancient stuff :)
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| 15:46 | <kahvis> There is no article about LDAP integration at wiki.ltsp.org :/
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> because it's unrelated to ltsp :)
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| 16:09 | <alkisg> kahvis: you can find good tutorials at the ubuntu wiki, but NOT in the ltsp section
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| 16:10 | (for things like ldap that are unrelated to ltsp)
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| 16:10 | E.g. in the ubuntu-server section
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| 16:11 | And if you anyone suggesting webmin... stay away from there
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| 16:28 | <kahvis> there was mentioned LPAD in a topic at integrations.
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| 16:28 | :o
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| 16:45 | <alkisg> kahvis: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openldap-server.html
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