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Channel log from 14 May 2020 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:44 | <xiphias256> Hi! I have an old ltsp instance that is about to be upgraded. Is XRANDR_COMMAND_[0..9] supported in /etc/ltsp.conf as it was in lts.conf. It is not mentioned in the man page. If not how can I use xrandr commands on different clients?
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| 07:44 | <alkisg> xiphias256: display managers do not all support hooks to run xrandr commands. You're supposed to use a xorg.conf, when that is necessary
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| 07:45 | !ltsp.conf
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| 07:45 | <ltspbot> ltsp.conf: Configuration file for LTSP: https://ltsp.org/man/ltsp.conf/
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| 07:45 | <alkisg> There are instructions there to dynamically create xorg.conf as neeed
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| 07:45 | Initializing xorg and running xrandr commands afterwards was a hack anyway; it's best to initialize xorg at the target settings at once, not afterwards
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| 07:46 | Otherwise the dpi get wrong, the max panning size etc
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| 07:46 | Finally, xrandr won't work at all with wayland
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| 07:50 | <xiphias256> Ok, I used it to define primary screen and to say which screen was left/right. Autodetect didnt work as intented.
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| 07:51 | <alkisg> xiphias256: sure, a xorg.conf can easily do that
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| 07:51 | The benefit of xorg.conf vs custom xorg commands, is that it's already documented elsewhere, and that it works without ltsp as well
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| 07:51 | So you can use the same knowledge in managing ltsp vs non-ltsp labs
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| 07:52 | <xiphias256> I rather stick with defaults (wayland)
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| 07:52 | <alkisg> Sure, that one is documented too, and will work fine with the new ltsp, while it wouldn't work with the old one
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| 07:53 | LDM didn't support wayland at all
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| 07:56 | <xiphias256> Yeah, it's great that this new ltsp version is released and that LDM is gone! :) Hmm.. where is wayland config documented?
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| 07:56 | <alkisg> In upstream wayland :)
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| 07:57 | That's the good thing, that it's no longer ltsp specific at all
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| 07:58 | xiphias256: which distro/version are you using?
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| 07:58 | <xiphias256> Ahh...makes sense! Thanks :)
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| 07:58 | Debian 10
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| 07:59 | I have been burned to many times with Ubuntu. Dist-upgrade is a mess.
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| 08:00 | <alkisg> Eh, each one has its benefits. As long as it's deb, I'm fine; I hate snaps :)
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| 08:02 | <xiphias256> Agree deb is the way to go :)
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| 08:05 | <alkisg> Btw wayland display settings seem sooooo immature compared to xorg...
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| 08:06 | They seem to be mostly handled by the compositor, so one would need different instructions based on if he uses kde, gnome, sway, whatever...
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| 08:06 | * alkisg is glad that ltsp doesn't need to worry about all that :D | |
| 08:07 | <quinox> Tearing is nearly gone in Wayland / sway for me which is cool, but my chrome sometimes becomes painfully slow to scroll
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| 08:07 | <alkisg> I think xpresent had made tearing go away in xorg too. Sure a protocol rewrite was needed, but not enough resources were put into it...
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| 08:17 | <xiphias256> Hmm..I will give it a try and see how it goes. I upgraded another ltsp instance recently from debian8 -> Debian10. It worked great. But this was a simpler 1-screen solution
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| 08:17 | <alkisg> Google says that sway has a "swap monitors" setting, which would do what you want even in wayland
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| 08:25 | <xiphias256> Crap... "SWAY is not included in any of the official Debian installers and is not available in the main stable (Buster) repositories."
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| 08:26 | <alkisg> I think "gnome display settings" can also do it, from the GUI
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| 08:27 | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=sway
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| 08:27 | Eh you can probably install it from bullseye
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