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Channel log from 23 February 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:41 | <Enslaver> phew that was a lot of code
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| 03:41 | my eyes were going cross
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| 03:43 | iScsi almost done, fat clients and new chroot builder are in testing phase, fc18 downloading, and i designed a neat logo for the release =)
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| 03:43 | what a day
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| 05:51 | <warren> Enslaver: it's looking like I won't have time to help you at all until at least May
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| 05:51 | Enslaver: it sounds like you're making good progress
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| 07:56 | <Enslaver> OOoOOoo: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7.html
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| 08:22 | <elias_a> Who would like to do that? :O
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| 08:24 | Oh - the writer seems to live in US. That explains it.
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| 11:07 | <vnc786> how to ssh fat clients ? what i did 1. installed openssh-server in chroot successfully 2. KEEP_SYSTEM_SERVICES=ssh in lts.conf 3. updated ssh-keys & image
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| 11:10 | but still not working ..when taking ssh of fat clients from server it asks for rsa key...after y/n ? y --> password --> permission deny
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| 11:10 | any help on this ....??
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| 11:12 | <muppis> Fat's doesn't contain any user accounts so you need to add one or set a root password in chroot.
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| 11:25 | <vnc786> yes i have already set root passwd in chroot and i tried ssh root@<fatclient ip> still it gives ssh: connect to host 172.16.0.32 port 22: Connection refused
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| 11:27 | muppis: i have one admin account created in chroot in which i can login in tty1 and root in tty2
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| 11:42 | okay i have got ssh thru root but i was trying ssh username@<ip> -X....so does conclusion says ssh can not be taken using fat clients username ..???
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| 11:58 | <muppis> No, because users are in server, not in clients. If you want achieve that, you might need set up NIS or LDAP to get same useraccounts to clients.
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| 13:40 | <Hyperbyte> !users
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| 13:40 | <ltsp> users: LTSP users for graphical login should be created on the server itself, NOT inside the client chroot. LTSP clients connect to the server to verify user credentials, they should not hold any user information themselves as this is very insecure.
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| 13:42 | <Hyperbyte> But SSH'ing to clients should technically be possible if you set a root password. Why you'd want to do that is beyond me though. You should check /var/log/auth.log on the client.
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| 21:00 | <kev_n> what options do I use for xrandr_output_0,1,2....?
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| 21:40 | <Hyperbyte> kev_n, the arguments to the xrandr command. Depends on what you're trying to do
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| 21:41 | Let's say you type xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 800x600 to configure the display
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| 21:42 | You'd do XRANDR_OUTPUT_0=VGA1 XRANDR_MODE_0=800x600
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| 22:15 | <kev_n> ohh ok, thank you hyperbyte
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| 22:16 | does configure_x need to be set to true or does it matter?
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| 22:17 | <vagrantc> configure_x shouldn't been deprecated ages ago...
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| 22:17 | or did we re-purpose it?
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| 22:18 | <kev_n> dunno, but it is in the man file for lts.conf
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| 22:18 | <vagrantc> sadly, the docs are usually only updated when someone notices something wrong with them
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| 22:18 | they haven't received a lot of work in quite some time
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| 22:20 | <kev_n> really? I remember it looking different last I looked, like it had been updated/re-formatted recently (I'm on Debian wheezy rc/ltsp 5.4.2-5)
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| 22:21 | it seems a lot more comprehensive than last I looked too
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| 22:21 | <vagrantc> last upload of ltsp-docs was in june of 2012...
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| 22:22 | <kev_n> wow, wonder if it has been that long since I last looked...
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| 22:22 | or mebbe my memory is just that awful
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| 22:22 | so should I comment configure_x out/delete it?
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| 22:23 | * vagrantc honestly can't remember if it's used anymore | |
| 22:23 | <vagrantc> kev_n: you can always comment it out and see what happns :)
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| 22:25 | <kev_n> vagrantc: I guess that's true, I've been trying that for the most part, but I had just set it back and forth between true and false cuz I didn't actually think of commenting it out... not exactly my proudest moment
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| 22:26 | <alkisg> CONFIGURE_X is supposed to be set automatically when a xorg.conf needs to be generated
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| 22:27 | In most cases it doesn't need to be present in lts.conf
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| 22:27 | <kev_n> are the xrandr settings dependent on others? i.e. you need xrandr_output for xrandr_mode to work, or something like that?
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| 22:27 | <alkisg> No
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| 22:28 | There's also XRANDR_COMMAND_0 to 9 if you want a simpler form
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| 22:29 | <kev_n> I don't think I am using it correctly so I am trying to go back and forth using different options
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| 22:30 | <alkisg> What do you want to do, and what's your current lts.conf like?
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| 22:30 | <kev_n> here is what I had tried first || XRANDR_COMMAND_0="xrandr --newmode 1920x1080 124.4 1920 1952 2640 2672 1080 1102 1113 1135 -hsync +vsync" / XRANDR_COMMAND_1="xrandr --addmode DVI1 1920x1080" / XRANDR_COMMAND_2="xrandr --output DVI1 --mode 1920x1080 --output DVI2 --mode 1920x1080" ||
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| 22:31 | <alkisg> It was cut in half, better use pastebin
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| 22:31 | <kev_n> I just got a new thin client and have been trying to get dual screens working (it's a hp t5570)
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| 22:31 | <alkisg> If you run those commands in a terminal, do they work like you want them to?
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| 22:32 | <kev_n> I haven't been able to log in on the client.... ohhhh I just realized I didn't use update sshkeys
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| 22:33 | http://pastebin.com/m6PAHnpM
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| 22:36 | <alkisg> Start with solving your login problems, so that you can test xrandr commands locally and not by rebooting a client each time
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| 22:36 | Also it's XRANDR_RATE_0 to 9...
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| 22:37 | <kev_n> oh.. duh
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| 22:37 | thanks
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| 22:42 | so when I start it up it starts up at 640x480 at a 59 refresh rate, so it is all screwy, and I hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get into the terminal and try logging in but it won't let me despite setting the password in the chroot for root and user
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| 22:43 | obviously I am screwing up something, probably simple...
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| 22:43 | <alkisg> Can't you login at the 640x480 ldm screen?
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| 22:44 | !screen_08
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| 22:44 | <ltsp> screen_08: To get a root shell on a Debian thin client, put SCREEN_07=ldm, SCREEN_08=shell and SCREEN_DEFAULT=07 to lts.conf.
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| 22:44 | <alkisg> Also this could help... ^
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| 22:44 | <kev_n> I can, but I can't see it because the monitor doesn't like the resolution/refresh
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| 22:44 | ok, will try that
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| 22:52 | it says can't open display
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| 22:52 | do I need to add a --display or --screen option
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| 22:53 | <alkisg> !xauthority
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| 22:53 | <ltsp> xauthority: To access the thin client X display from ssh or from a local console, try: export $(tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$(pgrep -nx 'ldm|kdm_greet|lxdm-greeter-gt|dbus-daemon')/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY='
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| 22:53 | <alkisg> Also put /var/log/Xorg.7.log to pastebin (you can scp it to your server first if it helps)
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| 22:57 | <kev_n> I just get the > after hitting enter
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| 22:58 | is it mebbe export $(tr '\0' '\n') < /proc/$(pgrep -nx 'ldm|kdm_greet|lxdm-greeter-gt|dbus-daemon')/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY='
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| 22:58 | ?
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| 23:00 | that just seemed to make it freeze when I put the ) there
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| 23:02 | <alkisg> You missed some of the quotes
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| 23:03 | <kev_n> ok
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| 23:03 | <alkisg> Hmmm wait
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| 23:03 | No it needs a final parenthesis
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| 23:03 | !forget xauthority
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| 23:03 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 23:04 | <alkisg> !learn xauthority as `To access the thin client X display from ssh or from a local console, try: export $(tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$(pgrep -nx 'ldm|kdm_greet|lxdm-greeter-gt|dbus-daemon')/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY=')`
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| 23:04 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 23:04 | <alkisg> !xauthority
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| 23:04 | <ltsp> xauthority: To access the thin client X display from ssh or from a local console, try: export $(tr '
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| 23:04 | <alkisg> ...stupid bot... (or me...) :)
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| 23:04 | <kev_n> oh, ok
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| 23:04 | <alkisg> !forget xauthority
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| 23:04 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 23:05 | <alkisg> !xauthority
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| 23:05 | <ltsp> xauthority: To access the thin client X display from ssh or from a local console, try: export $(tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$(pgrep -nx 'ldm|kdm_greet|lxdm-greeter-gt|dbus-daemon')/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY=')
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| 23:07 | <kev_n> and I am supposed to do this on the client, right? or not?
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| 23:10 | <alkisg> On screen 08
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| 23:10 | <kev_n> ok, thought so and just did... and use scp to copy it to the server?
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| 23:10 | <alkisg> kev_n: if you run that, now you can try xrandr from the terminal
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| 23:11 | And see the available modes, test the 'xrandr --newmode' commands etc
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| 23:12 | Xorg.7.log might reveal that the driver can't read the display EDID so you might just need X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH
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| 23:12 | <kev_n> oh, ok, sorry, not overly familiar with this
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| 23:12 | * alkisg ==> sleeps, 'night all | |
| 23:12 | <kev_n> night
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