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Channel log from 13 June 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:25 | <Hyperbyte> .
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| 08:26 | <muppis> ,
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| 08:34 | <Hyperbyte> ;
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| 08:34 | <muppis> :
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| 08:35 | <Hyperbyte> My, you're quite interpunctual.
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| 08:45 | <muppis> :D
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| 10:14 | <PRAFUL_> Hi
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| 10:15 | I want to install LTSP on Centos 6.4 64 bit server, please guide me
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| 10:15 | What are requirement and link to guid for step by step installtion process on server
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| 10:18 | <muppis> Patience, my young padawan.
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| 14:33 | <valeriobozzolan> Ehy! Hello! :)
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| 14:33 | Another question :D
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| 14:33 | Here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man5/lts.conf.5.html
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| 14:33 | It's written that LDM_THEME can be specified.
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| 14:34 | So i tried to specify LDM_THEME = xubuntu (because i have noticed that exists: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/xubuntu)
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| 14:34 | And it works fine.
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| 14:34 | But i tried:
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| 14:34 | cp -a /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/xubuntu /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/miaomiao
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| 14:35 | (Then with Gimp changed the miaomiao/bg.png and verifing permissions)
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| 14:35 | And when i set LDM_THEME = miaomiao it show me the theme "ltsp".
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| 14:36 | <vagrantc> did you rebuild the image?
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| 14:36 | <valeriobozzolan> Uhm O:)
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| 14:37 | Thank you I'll try. How silly am I.
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| 14:41 | <valeriobozzolan> Of course it works :)
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| 14:41 | Have another nice day!
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| 15:16 | <[GuS]> Hi guys, a quick question: It is possible to use x11vnc in a thinclient with LTSP?
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| 15:19 | <valeriobozzolan> Probably you want to use the software Epoptes to manage the screens ov every thin client
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| 15:20 | Just install "epoptes" pakage on the LTSP server :)
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| 15:20 | <vagrantc> [GuS]: should be possible, and epoptes may do what you need to.
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| 15:21 | <[GuS]> vagrantc: right, i hear about it. But installing it in the LTSP server right?
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| 15:21 | <valeriobozzolan> yes :)
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| 15:21 | <[GuS]> btw, is supposed to use it as remote, not locally
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| 15:22 | <vagrantc> [GuS]: you need both server and client components for epoptes
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| 15:22 | <[GuS]> vagrantc: ok, i will have a look at it. Thanks Guys
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| 15:22 | <vagrantc> [GuS]: what exactly are you trying to do?
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| 15:22 | <[GuS]> the thing is:
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| 15:22 | <valeriobozzolan> See this LTSP section: http://www.epoptes.org/installation
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| 15:22 | <[GuS]> My boss wants to control, like VNC, a particular thin client remotely
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| 15:23 | <vagrantc> epoptes is perfect for that sort of thing.
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| 15:23 | there's definitely some creepy potential there...
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| 15:23 | <[GuS]> In the past, i used to try with x11vnc but I didnt make it...
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| 15:23 | vagrantc: Ok, then thanks again :)
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| 15:24 | <valeriobozzolan> Epoptes is great! It allow to see every client connected and it allow you to enter in one to control it remotely, and another great thing is that Epoptes allow you to broadcast your monitor to every thin client.
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| 15:25 | "remotely"...
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| 15:26 | <[GuS]> valeriobozzolan: yes, remote, not local
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| 15:27 | Sorry, I'm not pure English speaker :D
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> remote is a bit complicated in the sense of LTSP...
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| 15:27 | <valeriobozzolan> :D
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| 15:28 | <vagrantc> as the client is running things remotely on the server, and the server is running things remotely on the client...
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| 15:31 | <[GuS]> well, i can tell my boss then to open epoptes with ssh -Y :P
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| 15:33 | <vagrantc> if you really wanted, you could configure epoptes to connect to your boss's machine instead of the LTSP server.
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| 15:38 | <[GuS]> Yeah. Just that in this case, He wants to "control" a Thin client of a Employee.
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| 16:18 | <[GuS]> Well, seems epoptes ebuild (Gentoo) does not work right
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| 16:29 | <raphr> hi there ! LTSP is great. I love it and I use it for home made thin client. Sometimes traditional PCs with local OS (Micro$oft) is needed. So i've build an os deployment project based on LTSP.
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| 16:31 | <championofcyrodi> nice
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| 16:32 | <raphr> I must admit this is not in LTSP spirit. But LTSP can boot on any hardware where others projects failed (clonezilla, fog). That's why the project was born.
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| 16:33 | <highvoltage> raphr: not entirely against the ltsp spirit, ltsp has a plugin infrastructure that can be used to integrate something like that tightly into ltsp
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| 16:34 | <raphr> yeah! plugin in LTSP is another great idea
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| 16:36 | there's a git repository here : https://github.com/leschartreux/ltsp-osdeploy with a wiki.
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| 16:37 | <highvoltage> raphr: nice
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| 16:37 | raphr: we were looking to do something similar at some point in edubuntu
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| 16:37 | <raphr> but the web gui part is in french. I'll have to make it more internatianl friendly
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| 16:38 | <highvoltage> bonne idee
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| 16:39 | <raphr> oui merci, l'utilisation du gettext s'impose ^^
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| 16:41 | For now, only full disk windows Clone is working. With auto rename an domain join.
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| 16:58 | <||cw> raphr: that looks neat, but what's "No menu client client size." supposed to be?
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| 17:01 | <raphr> I meant no menu client site. Typo
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| 17:02 | <||cw> side
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| 17:02 | <raphr> ||cw: I meant no menu client side. Typo
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| 17:02 | <||cw> :)
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| 17:02 | is a menu optional?
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| 17:03 | <raphr> yes at it uses pxelinux.cfg feature. It's quite easy to modify the default one (copied from client to server).
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| 17:05 | But it still should be Local boot by default with timeout for things work correctly handless
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| 17:10 | <valeriobozzolan> A question: Why I can't login to new "fresh" users from the thin client? I have to login the first time almways from the LTSP server, and only after that that account can be used on the thin clients.
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| 17:11 | <championofcyrodi> maybe because the home folder needs to be created on the ltsp server?
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| 17:12 | <||cw> valeriobozzolan: how are you adding users?
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| 17:12 | <championofcyrodi> like, there is no home folder for gnome to put all the X settings in
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| 17:12 | I use sssd to authenticate against a ldap directory server.
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| 17:12 | <||cw> hm, wouldn't pam do that?
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| 17:12 | <valeriobozzolan> Even from GUi than fron `adduser`
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| 17:12 | <championofcyrodi> then i enabled pam_mkhomedir in /etc/pam.d/common-session
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| 17:12 | <||cw> ah, right, not by default
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| 17:12 | <championofcyrodi> pam isnt doing that by default
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| 17:12 | <||cw> so then why's local do it?
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| 17:13 | <championofcyrodi> I'm not sure
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| 17:13 | maybe the useradd uses the -m flag by default?
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| 17:13 | <valeriobozzolan> (When i create the user I'm 100% sure that the home is created) :)
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| 17:14 | Nono, I akways check if the home exists :)
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| 17:14 | <||cw> can you ssh as the user before logging in local?
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| 17:14 | <raphr> maybe you should lokk ssh and pam side
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| 17:14 | <valeriobozzolan> I try now.
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| 17:15 | <championofcyrodi> valeriobozzolan: ||cw is right, make sure you can ssh into the server first. It should give you feedback. maybe ssh -v <host> to get verbose information
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| 17:16 | also pam_mkhomedir uses /etc/skel as the users home directory when they first log in, defaulting them to bash and some other env vars. That is where I do most of the client configuration for users default settings.
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| 17:17 | <raphr> good idea
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| 17:17 | have to go now. See ya.
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| 17:21 | <valeriobozzolan> From SSH I can access :|
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| 17:23 | After logged as SSH successfully, from thin it almways does not work.
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| 17:23 | I have to login fron the server once to get it work :|
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| 17:24 | Bit strange.
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| 17:25 | Bit strange because I can see that the new home folder of the new user is full of .Xautority .Xdefaults, .profile, .bashrc, etc etc etc.
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| 17:27 | And it does not want to login while I haven't already logged this user from the server once.
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| 17:30 | <championofcyrodi> i had the same problem
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| 17:30 | before switching to sssd and directory authentication
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| 17:30 | i thought it was a feature ;)
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| 17:31 | <vagrantc> i've pam_mkhomedir working with LTSP on debian squeeze, wheezy, ubuntu lucid and precise... haven't tried with newer versions.
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| 17:31 | <valeriobozzolan> (I'm on Xubuntu 14.04)
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| 17:32 | <championofcyrodi> vagrantc: does the ltsp package automatically configure/enable the pam_mkhomedir ?
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| 17:32 | <vagrantc> no
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| 19:35 | <valeriobozzolan> Personal question: Where born the LTSP project in its origin?
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| 19:35 | Somebody know?
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| 19:36 | For school purpose, for business?
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| 19:37 | <vagrantc> Michigan, USA
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| 19:39 | <vagrantc> i guess that info isn't easy to find on ltsp.org ...
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| 19:41 | <valeriobozzolan> I've read for release descriptions and well-written documentations but really I haven't discovered a "story" of the project :|
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| 19:41 | <vagrantc> should fix that before someone forgets
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| 19:42 | i'm guessing it's somewhere in the success stories section... but there's no list of success stories, just the map interface
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| 19:44 | <valeriobozzolan> By the way: Based on OpenStreetMap would have been nicer ;)
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| 19:54 | * vagrantc nods | |
| 19:55 | <valeriobozzolan> (?)
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| 19:55 | <vagrantc> i agree, i would prefer openstreetmap.
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| 19:56 | <valeriobozzolan> With something like Leaflet, that it's modern, the result can be very sexually stimulating.
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| 20:56 | <valeriobozzolan> But in LTSP can i set a really guest user?
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| 20:56 | For example if i set the home to a /tmp/ltsp%n% directory
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| 20:56 | ?
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| 20:57 | (Or somthing similar?)
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| 20:57 | Or I have to build a script to reset the home?
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| 21:02 | <vagrantc> i've always just used pam_mkhomedir
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| 21:02 | with guest users
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| 21:03 | <valeriobozzolan> I'm not very handy with pam.
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| 21:04 | But it is nice to know that you can do.
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| 21:04 | <john_s_> Hello all, I am trying to strip the realm portion from a login on ltsp thin clients. I'd like it to work in the following way user@somerealm.com would be passed to pam as user. Is there any way to do this through LDM?
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| 21:07 | <vagrantc> valeriobozzolan: you do need to create the users in order for pam_mkhomedir to work...
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| 21:07 | <john_s_> There is anpam module for this called pam_realm but it doesn't work for my purposes
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| 21:12 | <Faith> john_s_, are you saying AD/LDAP realm?
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