IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 7 October 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:04 | <jp_> hello
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| 02:04 | looking for iOS ltsp thin client?
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| 02:07 | anything like that exists?
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| 02:29 | <vagrantc> jp_: could you be more specific about what you're trying to do?
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| 05:49 | <rakesh_> hi everyone
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| 05:50 | <Guest26874> hello everyone
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| 05:50 | is there any person who can help me at urgent basis
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| 05:57 | <work_alkisg> !ask
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| 05:57 | <ltsp> ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 10:31 | <Mohit> Hello all
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| 10:31 | i am new to LTSP
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| 10:31 | and sucessfully installed LTSP server
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| 10:32 | can anybody tell me how the programs comming in server also come in Client
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| 10:32 | like office
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| 10:32 | mozila
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| 10:32 | etc
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| 10:41 | <monkwitdafunk> Hi mohit. You can use a thin client for.anything specific
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| 10:43 | For example you can pxe boot into grub and maybe choose libreoffice and firefox with diffrent firewalls
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| 10:44 | Sorry. The dhcp server needs a network admin
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| 12:52 | <edwin> morning everyine
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| 12:52 | how do i solve this issue
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| 12:53 | I just try to download something and it says you cannot change the content of this folder
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| 12:54 | tmp
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| 12:54 | I am in a terminal
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| 12:54 | edubuntu 12.04
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| 12:54 | ltsp
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| 13:01 | <edwin> does anyone has issue downloading from a terminal?
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| 13:05 | I am trying to download a picture (testing purpose) and it says I cannot change content of the folder tmp
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| 13:05 | if I right click to save it someplace else the dialog doesn't even appear. I am using local firefox
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| 13:12 | <edwin> sleepy headssss wake upppp
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| 13:25 | <||cw> edwin: is there enough room?
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| 13:26 | <edwin_> please help
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| 13:27 | <edwin_> I am on a terminal right now of a edubuntu 12.04 ltsp server
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| 13:27 | for testing any issue a user might have
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| 13:28 | I am tryying to download something and it says I cannot change content on the this folder tmp
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| 13:28 | I right click to save it someplace else and the dialog does not appear
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| 13:28 | I am using local firefoc
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| 13:28 | x'
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| 13:28 | <alkisg> ltsp-localapps xterm
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| 13:28 | touch /tmp/some-file
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| 13:28 | df -h
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| 13:28 | Run those.
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| 13:29 | <edwin_> hold on
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| 13:30 | permissioon denied
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> And: ls -ld /tmp
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| 13:33 | <edwin_> no W for groups
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| 13:33 | and belong to root
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| 13:33 | root root
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| 13:34 | <alkisg> drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 4096
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| 13:34 | <edwin_> mine has no w in the group section
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| 13:34 | <alkisg> Check it in /opt/ltsp/i386/tmp as well
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| 13:34 | And you didn't report the output of df -h
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| 13:35 | <edwin_> drwxr-xr-t
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| 13:35 | <alkisg> OK, so fix it, chmod 1777 /opt/ltsp/i386/tmp; ltsp-update-image etc etc
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| 13:35 | <edwin_> I can a copy from there?
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| 13:35 | <alkisg> It depends, if you're using epoptes or ssh... or, scp...
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| 13:36 | Anyways, fix the opt problem and run ltsp-update-image
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| 13:36 | <edwin_> in xterm how can I copy from there?
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| 13:36 | I am in the terminal
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> select, then middle click for paste
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| 13:37 | <edwin_> laptop here
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> left and right click together
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| 13:42 | <edwin_> http://pastebin.com/9e4HLBZv
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| 13:43 | alkisg thats the output of what you told me
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| 13:43 | I will be back in a sec has to restart
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| 14:02 | <edwin> thanks man
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| 14:03 | another issue
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| 14:03 | how do I tell the system to always use local firefox and local vlc
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| 14:06 | <alkisg> !lts.conf
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| 14:06 | <ltsp> lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 14:06 | <alkisg> Check the params for localapps there, menu etc
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| 14:08 | <edwin> yuo are the man
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| 15:33 | <j3p0> hello do they make a client to connect to a LTSP server from iOS 6/7 to access a desktop for internet access ?
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| 15:54 | <||cw> j3p0: that's not really what ltsp does
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| 15:55 | the client devices either PXE boot, or run a customized linux that connects to LTSP. you just want rdp or vnc, which ltsp doesn't directly do
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| 15:59 | <tobi_> hello
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| 16:16 | <marung> Hello. I am having issues with my PXE boot.
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| 16:18 | <vagrantc> !question
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| 16:18 | <ltsp> question: if you have a question about ltsp, please go ahead and ask it, and people will respond if they can. please also mention the linux distro and release you're using. :)
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| 16:19 | <marung> I am running Centos 5.9 and can PXE with the current computers in my lab, but any other computer I try to set up for PXE on the server Kernel panics at automatic network detection on five different computers/NIC cards.
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| 16:20 | external DHCP, receives IP address and loads from ltsp server up to NIC detection.
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| 16:21 | <vagrantc> is it on the same network as the other computers?
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| 16:21 | i.e. it's using the same network card
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| 16:21 | <marung> Yes, it is set up on its own VLAN
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| 16:21 | <vagrantc> maybe firewalling?
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| 16:21 | <marung> All disabled
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| 16:22 | <vagrantc> is there a router on the same network that might also be running DHCP?
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| 16:23 | <marung> No, the district only has one DHCP. IP range from 144.0 to 152.250, so plenty of addresses available.
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| 16:24 | <vagrantc> are you using dnsmasq with proxydhcp, then? or is the LTSP server handing out DHCP?
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| 16:24 | <marung> Currently works great with the thin client (old laptops) computers I am using.
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| 16:25 | <vagrantc> marung: just to be clear, the computer downloads the kernel and initrd via tftp, and then fails once it makes a second DHCP request?
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| 16:26 | <marung> DHCP not on LTSP server, Client receives IP, Then starts TFTP.
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| 16:26 | <vagrantc> so you are using proxydhcp, maybe with dnsmasq?
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| 16:27 | <marung> I am not sure. I will have to check on that.
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| 16:28 | <vagrantc> or is the district's server configured to tell your thin clients what to boot LTSP from your server?
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| 16:29 | <marung> The DHCP is pointed to the right TFTP, the existing clients boot fine.
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| 16:29 | <vagrantc> marung: it's on a separate VLAN, but connected to the same network?
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| 16:30 | <marung> Yes. connected to same network.
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| 16:30 | <vagrantc> marung: without knowing how your DHCP is configured, it makes it rather hard to troubleshoot. hard enough that i don't even know CentOS
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| 16:30 | marung: what's the point of the vlan, then?
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| 16:31 | <marung> set up so only one room/lab can PXE.
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| 16:31 | <vagrantc> marung: did you have to do any manual configuration to get your other thin clients to boot?
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| 16:31 | i don't see how it can be on a separate vlan, but the same network, and only allow some machines to PXE boot...
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| 16:31 | <marung> No, It has always been plug n play until now.
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| 16:33 | <vagrantc> on different subnets?
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| 16:34 | <marung> different subnets.
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| 16:35 | I am on 151.0 rest of school on 16.0
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> and is there specific configuration on your district's DHCP server to give your thin clients PXE/TFTP/DHCP information?
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| 16:43 | <marung> DHCP points to /var/lib/tftpboot/lts.conf
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| 16:48 | <marung> kernel panics at the linuxrc
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| 16:48 | <vagrantc> marung: on the district server, or with some other service you've set up?
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| 16:50 | i don't know linuxrc, don't use CentOS, but this sounds like you're getting two different DHCP responses... one at PXE time, and then a second from the initrd/initramfs phase, and one of them isn't giving you the correct information
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| 16:50 | <marung> Not sure the question. The LTSP Centos server kernel panics when it reaches linuxrc.
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| 16:50 | <vagrantc> marung: the server kenel panics, or the thin client?
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| 16:53 | <marung> thin clients does
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| 16:56 | <vagrantc> marung: can you get a laptop or other computer to at least get networking information on the networks that are having problems?
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| 16:56 | s,networks,subnets, ?
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| 16:57 | <marung> Yes. There are 35 computers in my room that do connect successfully to the ltsp server. If I unplug the cat5 from one and plug in the computers they want to upgrade me to, it kernel panics.
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| 16:59 | the thin client computer kernel panics...
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| 16:59 | <vagrantc> so on the exact same network and subnet, with different hardware, you're getting kernel panics...
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| 16:59 | <marung> Yes. that is correct.
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| 17:00 | <vagrantc> but multiple different new hardware all fail
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| 17:00 | <marung> I have since tried with five different NIC cards / brands, all kernel panic.
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| 17:00 | <vagrantc> but the old ones continue to work fine, plugged into the exact same cable?
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| 17:01 | <marung> Yes, that is my frustration...
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| 17:02 | <vagrantc> are all the old ones the same model?
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| 17:02 | marung: i don't know if it's present, but could you run "ltsp-info" on the LTSP server and paste the results
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| 17:02 | !paste
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| 17:02 | <ltsp> paste: try !pastebot
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| 17:03 | <vagrantc> !pastebot
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| 17:03 | <ltsp> pastebot: try !pastebin
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| 17:03 | <vagrantc> !pastebin
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| 17:03 | <ltsp> pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 17:03 | <vagrantc> ltsp: forget paste
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| 17:03 | <cliebow> heh
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| 17:03 | <vagrantc> ltsp: learn paste as try !pastebin
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| 17:04 | <marung> basically yes...Same IBM different models t40, t41,t42 etc
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| 17:04 | <vagrantc> bots a little slow to relearn things today
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| 17:04 | marung: and the new ones?
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| 17:05 | marung: this really gets into centos specific knowledge ... i have no idea how their LTSP environment builds the client images, what hardware to expect to work, how to get new hardware to work, etc.
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| 17:05 | <marung> Dell 830 with Broadcom, 5530 with gigabit, even tried old EEEpc
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| 17:06 | * vagrantc is used to a pretty arbitrary variety of hardware working with a given setup | |
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| 17:47 | <j3p0> @<||cw> so no software for iOS make make them a fatclient then? I understand PXE boot
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| 17:49 | <ogra_> this is not how LTSP works
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| 17:49 | <j3p0> ok thanks
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| 17:49 | <ogra_> imagine it as kbd/mouse/screen extensions of the server
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| 17:50 | by using a PXE booted linux on the client machines
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| 17:51 | <j3p0> exactly - was hoping it was more like terminal services in windows and i would be able to use a client on IOS to connect for a remote desktop with multiple users - i uderstand that this is not how it was designed - thanks
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| 17:51 | <ogra_> you can indeed install something like NX on the terminal server
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| 17:52 | and log in from OSX with an nx client ... iirc that exists
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| 17:55 | <j3p0> thanks
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| 18:31 | <bcdonadio> What should I do to include a fully-featured BusyBox on a ltsp initramfs?
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| 19:15 | <alkisg> bcdonadio: what do you mean "fully featured"? Which distro, version, and what are you missing from it?
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| 19:16 | <other_other_joe> I'd hate to see a less featured busybox :)
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| 19:19 | <bcdonadio> alkisg, I'm booting from a ubuntu-generated initramfs on a thinclient, but it is not booting, so I'm trying to debug it, buuuuuut the busybox on that image doesn't even have "less" bundled, so I'm having a little bit of a headache to read my dmesg...
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| 19:19 | <other_other_joe> more should be there
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| 19:20 | "more" that is
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| 19:23 | <bcdonadio> more isn't working :\
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| 19:23 | <alkisg> bcdonadio: one easy way is to download it from the server while still on the initramfs,
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| 19:24 | python -m SimpleHTTPServer on the server, and wget on the client,
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| 19:24 | but, what's your actual problem?
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| 19:25 | <bcdonadio> alksig, I'm not able to mount the NBD image, and I receive this error: "block ndb0: attempted send on closed socket"
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> Which ubuntu version?
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| 19:25 | <bcdonadio> saucy
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> i386?
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| 19:25 | <bcdonadio> i386 client, amd64 server
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> Can you pastebin stuff from the server?
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| 19:26 | <bcdonadio> also: "mount: mounting /dev/nbd0 on /root failed: Invalid argument"
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd*
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| 19:26 | <bcdonadio> yes, sure
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> grep nbd /var/log/syslog
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| 19:26 | sudo netstat -nap|grep nbd
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| 19:30 | <bcdonadio> http://pastebin.com/VvcUeR3B
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| 19:30 | <alkisg> Seems good, another one: ls -lh /opt/ltsp/images
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| 19:31 | And, verify that this doesn't exist: /etc/ltsp/nbd-server.allow
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| 19:31 | <bcdonadio> http://pastebin.com/mWf9LKcW
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| 19:32 | /etc/ltsp/nbd-server.allow doesn't exist
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| 19:32 | <alkisg> OK, now client site:
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| 19:32 | !nbd-client
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| 19:32 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 19:32 | <alkisg> ...not exactly though,
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| 19:32 | Ah ok saucy, so just change the IP
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| 19:33 | *client side, I meant
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| 19:33 | <bcdonadio> Negotiation: ..size = 325MB\nbs=1024, sz=341176320 bytes
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| 19:34 | apparently, it worked
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| 19:34 | <alkisg> So your dhcpd setup has issues
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| 19:34 | cat /proc/cmdline on the client, and pastebin your server's dhcpd.conf
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| 19:36 | <bcdonadio> ro initrd=intird.img-3.11....blahblahblah init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7 root=/dev/nbd0 BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz-3.11....blabhblabh BOOTIF=blahmymacblah
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| 19:36 | s/blah/actual information/g :P
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| 19:37 | <alkisg> On the client again, ipconfig -n eth0
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| 19:37 | Check the rootserver there, is that your dhcp server?
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| 19:38 | *ltsp server?
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| 19:40 | <bcdonadio> weeeee, indeed, it was a problem with the dhcp.conf!
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| 19:40 | im running two different ltsp installations, and I didn't override the root-path for this client
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| 19:40 | * alkisg notes that the busybox wouldn't help very much there :) | |
| 19:41 | <bcdonadio> thank you, alkisg ^^
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| 19:41 | <alkisg> np
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| 22:50 | <digitalirony> so, im seeing this issue on our 12.04 ltsp, where our users can't open evince
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| 22:50 | its giving an error about no supported authenticaion protocols
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| 22:51 | (evince:20545): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported
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| 22:51 | like that
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| 22:52 | I found a link suggesting setting the homedir prefix in apparmor
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| 22:52 | but it didn't seem to have any effect
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| 22:53 | and if I do it remotely with ssh -X, I get that it rejected the connection from X11 because of wrong authentication
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| 22:59 | nvm
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| 22:59 | <digitalirony> i figured it out finally
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