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Channel log from 13 April 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:22 | <nubae> cyberorg: http://www.nubae.com/opensuse-11-1-and-its-kiwi-ltsp-review
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| 04:31 | <cyberorg> nubae, "AOE is used for fatclient implementation" partially true, AOE can be used in place of NBD for normal LTSP image
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| 04:33 | <cyberorg> nubae, nice writeup, i am impressed :)
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| 04:35 | nubae, as you are now using openSUSE, get into habit of writing it as openSUSE instead of Opensuse ;)
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| 04:42 | dugg: http://digg.com/d1oaY8
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| 04:56 | <nubae> ok
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| 04:57 | yeah, about AOE, I figured the 'special' thing about it is its used for fatclient, is that because its read/write?
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| 04:57 | <alkisg> Hmm? nubae switched to openSUSE? Aaaah - good article...
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| 04:58 | <nubae> well swich is a strong word... I am using both
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| 04:58 | <cyberorg> nubae, no, we use ro /, mount /home as nfs rw
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| 04:58 | that make sense?
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| 04:58 | <nubae> yeah, thats what I did with mine too
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| 04:59 | <cyberorg> NBD can also be used for fat client, just that we have three options, nfs/nbd/aoe for /
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| 04:59 | <nubae> for now, OPENsuse seems really impressive, bug free and much easier than it used to be to install/use
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| 04:59 | <cyberorg> all in ro mode
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| 04:59 | <alkisg> what's the openSUSE default? gnome or KDE?
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| 04:59 | <nubae> oh... ok, then it is missleading
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| 04:59 | gnome
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| 05:00 | I wouldn't use kde... I tried that last time, and it was a big fiasco
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| 05:00 | <cyberorg> alkisg, anything that pleases you, i can make one :)
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| 05:00 | nubae, it is turning out to be really good 4.2 onwards
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| 05:00 | <nubae> I'll give it another half year :-)
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| 05:01 | <alkisg> cyberorg: is customization easy for the live dvd? E.g. could I use it to add full greek language support (if it doesn't already include language-pack-gnome-el, that is...) ?
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| 05:02 | <cyberorg> alkisg, yeah quite easy
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| 05:02 | alkisg, register for susestudio if you want real easy way
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| 05:03 | <nubae> so whats the benefits of using AOE?
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| 05:04 | <cyberorg> nubae, i didn't notice any, it is quite transparent whichever you use, AOE is supposed to be less resource intensive as it does away with extra TCP/IP layer or something like that
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| 05:05 | some market speak about it here http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/AoE
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| 05:15 | <zer0c00l> how could i take screenshots of ltsp booting process?
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| 05:15 | the pxe,tftp and etc
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| 05:15 | any software tools available?
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| 05:17 | <cyberorg> zer0c00l, boot up client in a VM
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| 05:17 | <zer0c00l> cyberorg, i tired it with virtual box it reported, cannot detect network interface card
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| 05:18 | any inbuilt VM available?
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| 05:18 | <cyberorg> use newer virtualbox, networking is quite simple on that
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| 05:23 | <zer0c00l> cyberorg, ok
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| 05:23 | cyberorg, it seems to be there is no driver in ramdisk for the emulated network cards of virtualbox :(
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| 05:23 | i use pxegrub
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| 05:24 | applied some patches to the grub
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| 05:24 | no grub says "No ethernet cards found"
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| 05:24 | may be grub is not supporting the emulated network card
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| 05:24 | <alkisg> zer0c00l: have you tried all vbox nics? PCNET II, III, Intel etc?
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| 05:25 | <zer0c00l> yes
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| 05:25 | PCNET
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| 05:25 | the grub loads only with PCNET II and III
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| 05:25 | <alkisg> What grub? boot from lan...
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| 05:27 | <zer0c00l> yeah
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| 05:27 | <alkisg> In vbox, you press F12, select "boot from LAN" and then pxelinux.0 is loaded, right?
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| 05:27 | <zer0c00l> alkisg, i use pxegrub
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| 05:27 | not pxelinux.0
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| 05:27 | i am not using it
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| 05:28 | may be the problem is with the grub which is not able to detect the emulated nic
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| 05:29 | alkisg, i did that "boot from lan"
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| 05:29 | <alkisg> Why are you using pxegrub? I thought grub had an ancient version of etherboot in it..
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| 05:30 | <zer0c00l> alkisg, i patched the grub
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| 05:30 | the patch is given by a person called adam
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| 05:31 | so that we dont need to compile the grub for each noc
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| 05:31 | *nic
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| 05:31 | <alkisg> Ah. So you use the existing pxe network stack, or use network drivers?
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| 05:31 | <zer0c00l> network drivers
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| 05:31 | <alkisg> Because pxe is supposed to eliminate the need for drivers...
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| 05:32 | E.g. if I buy a brand new laptop and linux doesn't yet have drivers for it, pxe should still succeed...
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| 05:32 | (until the initramfs stage, that is...)
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| 05:32 | <zer0c00l> alkisg, it says something like "No Pnp bios found; aborting"
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| 05:32 | and gives me the grub prompt
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| 05:33 | <alkisg> zer0c00l: yeah, I think that's from a 2005 etherboot version :)
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| 05:33 | Very-very old code
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| 05:33 | <zer0c00l> oh
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| 05:33 | what should i do?
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| 05:33 | <alkisg> Use pxelinux?
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| 05:33 | <zer0c00l> i still want to use pxegrub
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| 05:33 | :(
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| 05:33 | let me try
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| 05:33 | <alkisg> pxelinux uses the pxe network stack, so it doens't need drivers
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| 05:33 | What is it that you want to do with pxegrub, that you can't do with pxelinux?
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| 05:34 | <zer0c00l> showing the menu to the user..adding boot from local hardisk option
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| 05:34 | can we do that with pxelinux ?
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| 05:34 | <alkisg> All that's possible with pxelinux
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| 05:34 | Yeah, e.g. see the debian netboot.tar.gz
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| 05:34 | <zer0c00l> oh
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| 05:34 | <alkisg> Or the ubuntu one (=a patched debian)
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| 05:34 | <zer0c00l> ok
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| 05:35 | <alkisg> Graphic menus, submenus, F1/F2 etc keys, localboot...
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| 05:36 | <zer0c00l> alkisg, thanks for the help
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| 05:36 | i will use pxelinux then
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| 05:36 | <alkisg> yw, good luck
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| 05:38 | zer0c00l: you may get netboot.tar.gz from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
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| 05:38 | And here's how to declare the localboot menu: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/NetbootPxeLiveCDMultipleReleases
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| 05:38 | (LOCALBOOT 0 )
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| 05:39 | <zer0c00l> alkisg, thanks
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| 05:44 | <nubae> cyberorg: openSUSE needs a twitter client
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| 05:44 | I suggest gwibber, which does identi.ca too
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| 05:44 | <cyberorg> nubae, there are tons :)
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| 05:44 | <nubae> not on the edu dvd
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| 05:44 | <cyberorg> use http://p.opensu.se to find one
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| 05:44 | ah, i'll add gwibber
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| 05:46 | <nubae> I do like the web based install system, I know we have that on ubuntu too, but not to update repos
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| 05:54 | <cyberorg> nubae, anything else?
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| 05:54 | <nubae> I would add jclic and salasaga too
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| 05:55 | <cyberorg> they are not packaged yet
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| 05:55 | <nubae> can u make subcategories under education?
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| 05:56 | would be nice for teachers to know whats in their subject
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| 05:57 | <cyberorg> that would required a lot of patching of .desktop files
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| 05:57 | they are now under "Edutainment"
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| 05:58 | <nubae> how about putting another line under the apps, to show the subcat, or what subject they are for
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| 05:59 | under the description I mean
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| 06:00 | I guess there aren't too many apps, its still quite usable, but I always get the complaint from teachers that they dont know what something is for, so never bother trying it out
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| 06:01 | and weirdly missing are gimp and inkscape
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| 06:06 | <cyberorg> i have included them in -unstable iso, as kernel update screwed up aufs haven't got around to adding to main image
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| 06:07 | i am contaminating -unstable with moonshine too so teachers can now watch "educational videos" http://abock.org/moonshine/
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| 06:09 | <Drakonen> on twitter, i use mitter
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| 06:21 | <nubae1> heh, I enabled desktop effects and everything went white :-) had to restart into icewm and disable desktop effects via the terminal
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| 06:21 | <cyberorg> nubae, run yast2 x11, enable 3D, then enable effects
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| 06:22 | what hardware?
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| 06:22 | <nubae1> ati radeon
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| 06:23 | <cyberorg> ok, you better join #kiwi-ltsp or #suse for that, someone might just kick us out
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| 06:23 | <nubae1> heh
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| 07:05 | <tadeu_> guys, do you know how to customize gnome menu for all workstations ?
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| 07:22 | <Appiah> gconf
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| 08:53 | <jrock2004> Using ubuntu ltsp and am wondering how I can see if the thin client is using the lts.conf
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| 08:54 | I am booting and getting no X and the ctrl+alt+F* and nothing happens
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| 09:33 | <maginot> jrock2004, what distro/version are you using ? are you using lts.conf inside /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/ ?
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| 09:37 | <alexbodn> hello friends.
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| 09:37 | should the gnome suite be installed on the server, or rather on the client?
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| 09:37 | i presently need it for the clients only
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| 09:37 | <maginot> alexbodn, what distro ?
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| 09:38 | <alexbodn> maginot: debian testing/unstable/experimental
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| 09:38 | why would you think it matters?
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| 09:38 | <maginot> Hmm okay, no experience with debian only ubuntu
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| 09:38 | =)
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| 09:38 | its a quite diferent
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| 09:39 | <alexbodn> maginot: ubuntu is debian
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| 09:39 | <maginot> for ubuntu you should install desktop version it comes with gnome ready to use and all you will need is ltsp-build-client
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| 09:39 | but its a different build
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| 09:39 | the install process its not equal for what I saw
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| 09:40 | <alexbodn> so i suspect that build-client would copy packages from the server?
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| 09:40 | *packages contents
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| 09:40 | <gate_keeper_> hey guys,
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| 09:41 | <maginot> alexbodn, take a look http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html
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| 09:41 | <gate_keeper_> what can be an issue, when thin cilent hangs on "Starting kernel log daemon..."
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| 09:41 | ?
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| 09:41 | ubuntu 8.04
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| 09:42 | <alexbodn> maginot: np, just for the concept: the xserver (that dispays the info) is on each client (no matter in what ram it runs)
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| 09:44 | however the gnome packages are xclients, but should be invoked within the client process.
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| 09:44 | <maginot> alexbodn, ltsp uses ldm to connect remotly using ssh ...
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| 09:45 | <alexbodn> but is that kind of xdmcp?
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| 09:46 | <maginot> kind of
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| 09:46 | <alexbodn> so programs run on the ltsp server
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| 09:47 | <maginot> alexbodn, well not exactly
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| 09:47 | alexbodn, and its possible with ltsp-local-apps to permit some application to load in the client using local process
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| 09:47 | <alexbodn> i'd have an idea: i'll install a package on the server only, and see if i can use it
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| 09:48 | <maginot> alexbodn, if you install something like skype in the server you can then use in the client, but modules and files that must run in the client only have effect after building the client image
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| 09:49 | <alexbodn> that was your first think you said about ubuntu, isn't it?
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| 09:51 | <jrock2004_> maginot: sorry about that. I am using Ubuntu 8.10
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| 09:51 | maginot: yes I have it in /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 09:51 | <maginot> jrock2004, are you following the right sintax ? take a look at the examples at http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html
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| 09:52 | alexbodn, well, I have only experience with ubuntu here...
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| 09:52 | <alexbodn> right. thanks a lot :)
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| 09:52 | <maginot> you're welcome
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| 09:52 | =)
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| 09:53 | <jrock2004_> maginot: I will take a look
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| 09:54 | <maginot> jrock2004, chapter 7 have a good lts.conf example =)
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| 09:56 | <maginot> jrock2004, ... and what is exactly you are trying to do thats not working ?
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| 09:58 | <jrock2004_> maginot: well I can boot and i get the ubuntu splash but then after it loads and I would get to X all I get is a black screen
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| 09:58 | <maginot> jrock2004, probably a video problem
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| 09:58 | <jrock2004_> That is what I was thinking
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| 09:58 | <maginot> try this
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| 09:59 | you can use on [default] or in the client configuration
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| 09:59 | CONFIGURE_X = true
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| 09:59 | XSERVER = auto
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| 09:59 | <jammcq> hey friends
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| 09:59 | <maginot> reboot the client to see if you can boot
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| 09:59 | hey
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| 09:59 | =)
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| 10:00 | <maginot> jrock2004_, did you catch what I wrote?
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| 10:01 | <maginot> jrock2004_, you can use on [default] or in the client configuration
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| 10:01 | CONFIGURE_X = true
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| 10:01 | XSERVER = auto
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| 10:02 | <jhaig|home> Does the ltsp server have to run its own dhcp server or can another server be configured to give out the necessary information? I ask because I am in the process of setting one up on a network that already has a dhcp server.
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| 10:03 | <maginot> jhaig|home, you can use other dhcp server, but isnt so simple you will have to prepare the image so the client could boot using the image
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| 10:03 | <jrock2004__> maginot: that did it
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| 10:03 | <jrock2004> maginot: X is up
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| 10:04 | <maginot> good to hear =)
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| 10:04 | <jhaig|home> maginot: Thanks.
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| 10:04 | <cyberorg> hi jammcq, check out nubae's review of the opensuse-edu-kiwi-ltsp-live DVD http://digg.com/d1oaY8 :)
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| 10:04 | <jrock2004> maginot: thanks
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| 10:11 | <jhaig|home> I assume, though, I can take the information from the dhcp setup on the ltsp server and just copy it onto the other dhcp server. I am installing ltsp via the Ubuntu 'alternative' disk which (I hope) sets everything up properly for you.
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| 10:31 | <richard_parker_v> jhaig|home: your other/current dhcp server needs to have the ability to point to tftp server, root path, etc. If it is not a sophisticated dhcp server, it may be best to make the ltsp server your main dhcp server and shut off the other one
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| 10:33 | <jhaig|home> richard_parker_v: Perhaps. I am going to set up another dhcp server anyway, but ltsp will be running in vmware, and I thought it would probably make more sense to have the dhcp server on the vmware host.
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| 10:34 | It will be running CentOS 5.3, which I would imagine would be sophisticated enough.
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| 10:36 | <alkisg> It's also possible to use a proxydhcp server, to provide the boot filename but not the ip leases. This way it won't interfere with the current dhcp setup.
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| 10:36 | The latest dnsmasq test version supports that.
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| 10:51 | <alkisg> stgraber: ping?
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| 11:06 | <stgraber> alkisg: pong (but not for long)
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| 11:06 | <ltsppbot> "alkisg" pasted "for stgraber" (32 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/300
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| 11:07 | <alkisg> Started to reply in the bug report, but since you're here... :)
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| 11:07 | I don't know why this regression occured, but it's definately a regression.
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| 11:09 | stgraber, it could also cause data loss if localapps are used... it's not only about seeing greek in ldm, it affects the codepage of the chroot file system.
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| 11:09 | <stgraber> alkisg: what's the content of /etc/environment in your chroot ?
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| 11:09 | <alkisg> PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
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| 11:10 | <stgraber> alkisg: because at the office I don't have a /etc/default/locale but I have the system translated
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| 11:10 | <alkisg> It's the same in the server
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| 11:10 | <stgraber> alkisg: ok, so that's wrong
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| 11:10 | <alkisg> stgraber: it's the same in the server /etc/environment
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| 11:10 | What was I supposed to have there?
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| 11:11 | <stgraber> hmm, ok, looks like something changed there.
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| 11:11 | root@ltsp180:~# cat /etc/environment
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| 11:11 | PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
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| 11:11 | LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
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| 11:11 | LANGUAGE="en_US.UTF-8"
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| 11:11 | <alkisg> Wow, let me look what it had in an intrepid server - it'll take me 2 minutes to boot it...
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| 11:12 | <stgraber> and with that you'd get your system correctly translated ... that's what 025-locales in Ubuntu is generating but it's assuming that the server also has the locale defined there which doesn't seem to be the case anymore
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| 11:12 | <alkisg> Ouch, so where should this be reported?
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| 11:13 | <stgraber> I can prepare a fix for that but I have serious doubts it'll be included as it's not critical ...
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| 11:13 | <alkisg> stgraber: well, if I install firefox as a localapp, I'll lose file system data. Isn't that critical?
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| 11:14 | I'll get a corrupted home directory in the server...
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| 11:14 | <stgraber> except firefox isn't installed by default as a localapp so not critical because the default installation won't be a problem
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| 11:15 | <alkisg> In Intrepid I do have the environment settings you said.
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| 11:15 | So it's definately a regression...
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| 11:16 | <stgraber> and in intrepid you have /etc/default/locale in the chroot ?
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| 11:16 | <maginot> alkisg, talking about installing firefox as a localapp... Im noticing that some files are being created under clients /tmp with 400 mode ... I had some problems to overide files and had to delete manualy to propery open them
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| 11:16 | * vagrantc noticed that the localapps assume the same language that LDM is running as, *not* the same language that the user selected | |
| 11:17 | <alkisg> stgraber, no, I don't have default/locale, but the /etc/environment has the correct language settings.
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| 11:17 | <maginot> vagrantc, LDM and Localapps only changed language after changing at /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/default/locale
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| 11:18 | at least was what happened here, but it 8.10, not intrepid
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| 11:18 | <stgraber> alkisg: and on the server (intrepid) do you have the locale in /etc/environment ?
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| 11:18 | <vagrantc> maginot: correct. but when you select a language from the menu, the started session will appear in the appropriate language for non-localapps
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| 11:18 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 11:18 | <stgraber> alkisg: ok, so that's what changed in jaunty
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| 11:18 | <alkisg> So I guess the alternate cd installer now in Jaunty doesn't create the correct settings in /etc/environment
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| 11:19 | <maginot> vagrantc, yeas, non localapps doesnt care with default/locale
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| 11:19 | <alkisg> Yup... but it doesn't really affect the server, it only affects the ltsp clients...
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| 11:19 | <stgraber> nothing to do with LTSP (last change to the locale code in ltsp was in february 2008)
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| 11:19 | <maginot> and Im seeing this since 7.10
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| 11:19 | <stgraber> will work on a quick fix now
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| 11:19 | <alkisg> stgraber, thanks :)
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| 11:22 | <stgraber> hmm, actually locale support will still be broken, just diferently
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| 11:23 | <maginot> stgraber, what issue are you having ?
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| 11:23 | <stgraber> copying the default/locale file will work if your chroot is using the same locale as the server
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| 11:23 | but the locale plugin is actually used to set a different language
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| 11:24 | <maginot> hmmm
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| 11:25 | here Im using both equal I got nothing wrong ...
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| 11:25 | <alkisg> stgraber: I think if you copy the logic from Debian/025-locales, it'll work ok..
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| 11:26 | <stgraber> alkisg: yeah but that's way too much for a bugfix
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| 11:27 | <stgraber> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/150262/
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| 11:27 | alkisg: can you try building a new chroot with this one ?
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| 11:28 | <vagrantc> stgraber: shouldn't you still check if /etc/environment exists before trying to copy it?
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| 11:29 | <stgraber> vagrantc: hmm, indeed ... just in case someone removed it :) (AFAIK it comes with the base system on Ubuntu)
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| 11:30 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/150264/
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| 11:30 | (in this case we can end up with LANG=C in /etc/environment ... not good but no regression either)
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| 11:31 | <maginot> seens redundant
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| 11:31 | <alkisg> stgraber: what is the value of $LOCALE when the alternate cd runs ltsp-build-client?
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| 11:31 | Isn't it $LOCALE="C" ?
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| 11:32 | Ah, no, it should be en_GR, ok...
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| 11:32 | el_GR
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| 11:36 | stgraber: it won't copy the path, though
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| 11:36 | <stgraber> it should be el_GR unless something cleared the environment
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| 11:36 | alkisg: I'm appending the locale the path should already be there
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> Ah, ok. Well... let me see if I can call ltsp-build-client and tell it to use the alternate cd as a source...
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| 11:38 | I will report here later, or if you're not here, in the bug report. Thanks stgraber!
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| 11:42 | <stgraber> np, just tell me soon enough, I don't think I can get anything in after today :)
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| 11:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> stgraber: I am going to give ltsp-cluster a shot, and will be following the documentation for openVZ that you have on your wiki.
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| 11:42 | stgraber: which version of ubuntu server were you using when you made this? 8.10 or 8.04?
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| 11:42 | <stgraber> tuesday-thursday will be RC, then we hope not to have any difference with final
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| 11:42 | _UsUrPeR_: only LTS releases have OpenVZ support (at least for now), so server will be 8.04
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| 11:43 | <alkisg> stgraber: doing it right now... if anyone remember the exact parameter to pass to ltsp-build-client to use the alternate cd as a source, I'd be grateful...
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| 11:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> stgraber: I noticed you were using server install specifically instead of desktop version. what was the reason behind that?
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| 11:44 | <stgraber> --mirror file:///cdrom --security-mirror none
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| 11:44 | <alkisg> ty
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| 11:56 | Erm... Somewhere near the end of ltsp-build-client, I got an error "Failed to retrieve file:/cdrom/dists/jaunty/Release Unable to find expected entry universe/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) - I don't know, maybe my cd is bad.
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| 11:56 | Other than that, chroot/etc/environment now looks OK:
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| 11:56 | PATH="..."
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| 11:56 | LANG=el_GR.UTF-8
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| 11:56 | Without quotes in the LANG, but I think it'll work just fine.
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| 11:57 | stgraber ^^^ seems ok, please get it in :)
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| 11:57 | <stgraber> alkisg: the error is quite easy, universe doesn't exist on the alternate cd :)
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| 11:57 | <alkisg> Ah, ok :)
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| 11:58 | I installed some codecs on the server, so universe got in without me remembering it...
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| 12:07 | <stgraber> alkisg: uploaded and poked the release managers, let's hope it'll be accepted
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| 12:07 | <alkisg> stgraber: just a note for maybe a later release: on the server I do have a correct /etc/default/locale, so if it gets copied to the chroot, it would work...
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| 12:07 | Thanks :)
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| 12:08 | <stgraber> alkisg: yeah but copying won't be enough, if I build with --locale fr_CH.UTF-8 on a el_GR.UTF-8 I expect my chroot to be fr_CH.UTF-8 not el_GR.UTF-8
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| 12:09 | <alkisg> Right.
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| 12:09 | * stgraber just uploaded a backport to its PPA | |
| 12:09 | <stgraber> ok, I'm now officialy gone :) see you later
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| 13:26 | <cinch> how does pulseaudio get launched on the client with "SOUND=Y"
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| 13:26 | im trying to change its configuration, it seems to ignore /etc/pulse/default.pa in the chroot
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| 13:27 | <stgraber> cinch: it's done in ltsp-init-common (/usr/share/ltsp)
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| 13:27 | <cinch> thanks ill have a look
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| 13:27 | oh there we go :D
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| 13:37 | <cinch> i must be hallucinating, sound works over the network
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| 13:41 | thanks for the tip, was wondering how pulse got started, i needed to delete "-L module-detect" and replace it with "-L module-alsa-sink device=hw:0,1"
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| 13:50 | <stgraber> hmm, that'll work in your case but will work in almost all others :) selection a specific channel of a specific sound card doesn't seem to be a good idea
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| 15:40 | <cinch> its only for a home network with one client ;)
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| 15:56 | <bchapman> Hello, can someone help with a 4.2 on Ubuntu 8.10 question? We need 4.2 because we have older Wyse S50 terms. If I set SCREEN_01 to shell, I get a shell. If I set it to startx, I get a flashing gray screen and Ubuntu spinning cursor and many TIME_WAIT connections on the host at 6000. Sorry if this is an RTFM; I've tried and I'm sure it's obvious. Any tips?
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| 16:02 | <Gadi> bchapman: sounds like a gdm issue
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| 16:04 | bchapman: if you set to shell and type "startx" at the shell, you should be able to see the error
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| 16:06 | <Goldeneyes1> Hola a todos
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| 16:06 | <bchapman> Gadi: I've tried that, but it never completes; just the blinking screen over and over. I'll turn on debug in a GDM.
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| 16:06 | <Goldeneyes1> Alquien sabe como cambiar el GDM de LTSP
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| 16:06 | <Gadi> bchapman: XSERVER=vesa?
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| 16:06 | <Goldeneyes1> HowTo change GDM LTSP
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| 16:06 | <Gadi> Goldeneyes1: change *to* ? or change?
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| 16:07 | and in what way?
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| 16:08 | <Goldeneyes1> how to change the GDM LTSP
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| 16:09 | <Gadi> Goldeneyes1: quieres cambiar como se parece ?
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| 16:09 | como funciona?
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| 16:09 | <Goldeneyes1> quiero cambiar la apariencia
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| 16:09 | no como funciona
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| 16:09 | <Gadi> ah - ok
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| 16:10 | there is a themes folder
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| 16:10 | <Gadi> let me see if anyone put up a wiki about this
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| 16:10 | <Goldeneyes1> ok
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| 16:10 | thanl
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| 16:11 | thank
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| 16:11 | <Gadi> well, the folder should be in here: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/
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| 16:11 | you can find the default used with: ls -l /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/alternatives/ldm-theme
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| 16:11 | <bchapman> Gadi: "XSERVER=vesa" did it. Thank you! Sorry for the basic question
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| 16:12 | <Gadi> bchapman: np
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| 17:33 | <alexbodn> bye friends. thanks a lot
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| 17:38 | <stgraber> Gadi: ping
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| 17:39 | <Gadi> stgraber - quick pong
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| 17:39 | <stgraber> Gadi: hey, we were wondering with Alex (from Diskless) if you had a 200px large logo of your company
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| 17:39 | <Gadi> sure
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| 17:39 | square?
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| 17:40 | width?
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| 17:40 | <stgraber> width should be 200px
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| 17:40 | <Gadi> sure
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| 17:40 | for what?
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| 18:30 | <dmarkey> stgraber: vagrantc : if i wanted to put forward a frature request to the ltsp loopback stuff are ye the people to talk to
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| 18:30 | feature*
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| 18:31 | <vagrantc> dmarkey: loopback?
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| 18:31 | <dmarkey> well ltsp local mount
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| 18:32 | <vagrantc> well, gadi and stgraber and myself have put some time into it...
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| 18:32 | mostly, i've just struggled with it and had little sucess
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| 18:33 | <dmarkey> oh really, i'll probably look at it in more detail when i'm back at work
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| 18:34 | anyway the feature request is virus scanning on the client side
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| 18:34 | if a virus is found on the usb key it doesnt become available in /media/root
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| 18:35 | it probably isnt important for linux terminal servers but it moreso for windows ones
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| 18:36 | it is moreso*
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| 18:36 | <vagrantc> shouldn't be too hard to incorporate a test hook functionality into the existing code, but it will probably require some changes.
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| 18:36 | so you could write custom hooks that require it to pass in order for it to mount.
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| 18:37 | <dmarkey> yup
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| 18:37 | it will if course prolong the amount of time before the usb key is available
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| 18:38 | and increase network traffic(for definitions and stuff)
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| 18:43 | suppose we should work on getting device ejection working properly first
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| 20:34 | HOW TO CHANGE LDM
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| 21:04 | <minkalimin> hi all
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| 21:04 | any body succes connect to vista with ltsp
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| 21:04 | <johnny> connect to vista how?
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| 21:04 | <minkalimin> using rdesktop
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| 21:05 | <johnny> ok.. no sorry.. altho others probably do
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| 21:05 | you might need to come back at another time when more folks are about
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| 21:05 | i myself haven't had awindows computer in quite some time.. so i have no idea about such things
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| 21:06 | <minkalimin> thx john, but maybe you can help me of my case
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| 21:06 | <johnny> unlikely
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| 21:06 | during the day time of usa and europe more folks are around
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| 21:06 | <minkalimin> i have msg error: failed open display when i use rdesktop to windows vista
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| 21:07 | but is work if im connect in startx
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| 21:07 | screen1 =startx screen2=rdesktop
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| 21:07 | i see john
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| 21:11 | thx b4
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