IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 19 January 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:55 | <Joris> this client is not authorized to connect to the server
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| 01:55 | -> what causes this?
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| 01:55 | and how can I solve it
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| 01:55 | it's just another machine in the network that used to work fine - now it's only returning this message when we login
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| 01:58 | <johnny> try running ltsp-update-sshkeys && ltsp-update-image
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| 01:59 | it is usually caused when you change the server ip
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| 01:59 | <Joris> hmm
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| 01:59 | I have indeed changed ip's
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| 01:59 | (moved the 'main' ip arround and added the original as an alias)
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| 01:59 | <johnny> if you change ips you have to do that
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| 01:59 | <Joris> is it possible only one of the many clients does this?
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| 02:00 | <johnny> shouldn't be
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| 02:01 | * johnny has to run | |
| 02:01 | <johnny> bbiab
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| 02:01 | <Joris> cya :)
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| 03:09 | <yemu> hi, is it possible that thin clients work slower in the ltsp5, i've been using ltsp in dapper and recently switched to gusty
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| 03:09 | and it seems that everything is slower
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| 03:11 | are there any tips to speed things up?
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| 03:12 | i have 3 clients and sempron 3000 server running at 1.8ghz and 1 gig ram
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| 03:16 | <johnny> add LDM_DIRECTX = True
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| 03:16 | to lts.conf
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| 03:17 | it is somewhat of a security hole tho, but no worse than ltsp 4
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| 03:18 | <yemu> and where is lts.conf?
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| 03:19 | in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/ ?
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| 03:19 | <johnny> yes
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| 03:21 | <yemu> do i have to reboot the server or just the terminals?
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| 06:30 | <yemu> hi does anyone knows how to enable sound in flash on thinclients?
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| 06:48 | <ogra> yemu, install libflsahsupport
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| 06:48 | *libflashsupport
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| 06:48 | (on the server)
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| 06:49 | yemu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuFAQ
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| 06:54 | <yemu> ogra: tnx, do i have to reboot my server, or just client?
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| 09:55 | <jammcq> RichEd: hey
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| 09:55 | <RichEd> hi jammcq :)
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| 09:55 | <jammcq> how you doing?
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| 09:55 | <RichEd> all the best for the new year etc.
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| 09:55 | well thanks and self ?
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| 09:55 | <jammcq> doing well
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| 09:55 | <RichEd> have you seen ogra around & about ? gotta quick question for him
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| 09:56 | <jammcq> he's been here this morning
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| 09:56 | !seen ogra
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| 09:56 | <ltspbot> jammcq: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 3 hours, 6 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <ogra> yemu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuFAQ
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| 09:56 | <jammcq> well, 3hrs ago, anyway
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| 09:56 | <RichEd> thanks ... will press on then ...
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| 09:56 | bye for now
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| 09:56 | <jammcq> ok, see ya later
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| 10:04 | <RichEd> actually jammcq can i ask you ... perhaps you can assist being far more linxu literate than I am
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| 10:04 | for a DD copy onto a USB stick, I need the 3 letter device ID for the USB stick
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| 10:05 | the instructions tell me to run dmesg and look for the 3 letter id within [ ] in the eight lines of output that begin with SD
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| 10:05 | * RichEd has tried that but cannot see any [ ] | |
| 10:06 | <RichEd> do you know much about that sort of topic ?
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| 10:06 | <jammcq> ok, like sda or sdb ?
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| 10:06 | <RichEd> that's what I think ...
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| 10:07 | <jammcq> well, right after inserting the usb stick, run dmesg
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| 10:07 | and in the last 10 lines or so, you should see it. amongst a whole lot of other stuff
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| 10:07 | if you could paste those 10 lines to http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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| 10:44 | <jaffo> i'm trying to get ltsp working on a new install of debian etch, followed the wiki for ltsp and after running ltsp-build-client it says successfully completed. when i boot a client the i get an ip address from the pxeboot but says tftp error file not found
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| 10:44 | any ideas where to start looking
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| 11:12 | <cliebow> !seen sbalneav
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| 11:12 | <ltspbot> cliebow: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 5 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 6 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <sbalneav> I guess the idea is: ship it in the safe, encrypted mode, and then if people decide they can be less safe, in exchange for speed, then they can, easily.
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| 11:45 | <klausade> vagrantc: i'm still not having any success with newest backport of ltsp for etch, can't get X to work for me. Well, X does work when I use xdebconf and give the client a ready made xorg.conf.
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| 11:56 | <vagrantc> klausade: hrm.
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| 11:56 | klausade: what video cards?
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| 11:57 | klausade: the code is nearly identical to what's in etch or in the previous backports, so that's perplexing.
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| 11:58 | <klausade> vagrantc: mostly intel cards.
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| 12:02 | <vagrantc> klausade: i'm curious if it works with sid ...
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| 12:02 | klausade: you could build a sid chroot on an etch server ... --dist sid
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| 12:03 | <klausade> vagrantc: i'll give it a go, later.
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| 12:03 | <vagrantc> klausade: and try first without xdebconfigurator ...
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| 12:04 | <vagrantc> klausade: i think h01ger made backports of X.org for etch
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| 12:04 | <klausade> vagrantc: right now I have a funny one: with 5.0.8debian3 the cdrom only works if there is a harddrive in the machine. just found out.
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| 12:04 | vagrantc: yes, i know of his backports. I even tried adding them to the xtra-mirror.
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| 12:04 | <Q-FUNK> ogra: does libflashsupport actually need pulseaudio 0.9.7 ?
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| 12:06 | <vagrantc> klausade: and i'm guessing you've tried with little to no modifications from the defaults... ?
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| 12:06 | <klausade> vagrantc: yes
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| 14:53 | <lns> Anyone have a clue as to my earlier list post regarding X_RAMPERC causing my older iPaq PCs not to boot into ldm? http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg32447.html
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| 14:54 | <johnny> ipaq pcs?
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| 14:54 | i didn't even know there was such a thing :)
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| 14:54 | <lns> johnny, haha..i know, this was the first i've seen of them too!
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| 14:54 | i've got 5 labs full of them
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| 14:56 | <johnny> why would they use the name ipaq for a pda too ???
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| 14:56 | or vice versa rather
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| 14:56 | <lns> lol...dunno my friend
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| 14:56 | <johnny> sorry.. i can't help with that issue myself
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| 14:56 | <lns> just the name, huh? =p
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| 14:57 | <johnny> my env is way less intense than yours
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| 14:57 | only 4 machines
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| 14:57 | <lns> i'm positive it has to do with their video ram..i hope i can allocate more to it in the BIOS - that's the only thing i haven't tried
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| 14:58 | but with the lts.conf X_RAMPERC off, they boot up. if it's on, at 01 or 99 value, they get the msg in the link
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| 14:59 | i think the x server tries to allocate all the vid memory to the server and can't because there's a limit - even though it will re-allocate it to GUIs and programs and such
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| 14:59 | i might be totally off base but i think it could be a possibility, even if a bug in the code/parm itself, or something...
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| 15:05 | <linux2> this workstation isn't authorized to connect to server. Anyone know how to fix that
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| 15:05 | it was working before but now I rebooted and none of my clients are allowed to connect
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| 15:05 | <laga> did you reboot the server?
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| 15:05 | <linux2> yeah
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| 15:05 | <laga> where do you get that message?
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| 15:05 | <linux2> on the client
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| 15:06 | <linux2> the server is running
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| 15:06 | and the client is connected at the X login screen
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| 15:06 | when i try to login
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| 15:06 | it says this workstation isn't authorized to connect to server
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| 15:07 | <vagrantc> ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 15:07 | <cliebow> yecch..beat me to it
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| 15:07 | <vagrantc> and if newer ubuntu, ltsp-update-image too
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| 15:08 | <laga> i was somewhat reluctant to suggest that because i have no clue how ltsp works ;)
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| 15:08 | * cliebow cliebow not quick on the draw.. | |
| 15:08 | * vagrantc was typing one-handed | |
| 15:08 | * cliebow cliebow is trying out a powermac// | |
| 15:09 | * laga is hacking fat client support into his ltsp install | |
| 15:10 | <linux2> vagrantc: thanks
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| 15:10 | <cliebow> laga..like an ssh -x?
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| 15:10 | <laga> cliebow: no, like boot into a full X session
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| 15:10 | <cliebow> ok..dokey
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| 15:11 | like using our ldm/
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| 15:11 | ?
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| 15:11 | <laga> no, like using gdm
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| 15:11 | <cliebow> local gdm?
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| 15:12 | <laga> yep
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| 15:12 | using aufs (another unionfs) and a nfs share on top of the squashfs so you can use it like a normal workstation
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| 15:13 | <laga> and wake on lan support for the server ;)
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| 15:14 | <cliebow> i see..i used chubby macintosh client for a while..but remote gdm
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| 15:14 | <jaffo> can someone assist me with getting ltspworking
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| 15:14 | <cliebow> we'll give it a try..
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| 15:14 | <jaffo> when i boot a client it gets an ipaddredd but seems to stop for a long time trying to boot
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| 15:14 | <cliebow> px?
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| 15:15 | e?
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| 15:15 | <jaffo> says trying to load pxelinux.config
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| 15:15 | yes
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| 15:15 | and it never loads
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| 15:15 | eventually says file not found or something
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| 15:15 | <cliebow> this is ubuntu/
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| 15:15 | <jaffo> so i did rm -rf /opt/ltsp and started over
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| 15:15 | <cliebow> ?
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| 15:15 | <jaffo> debian latest
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| 15:16 | and i did apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone again then ltsp-client-build
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| 15:16 | <cliebow> we got your debian guru here..
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| 15:16 | <jaffo> both complted sucessfully
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| 15:16 | <cliebow> do you have tftp ruunning?
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| 15:16 | <jaffo> ps x shows it running
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| 15:17 | <cliebow> try netstat -anp|grep ":69"
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| 15:17 | just for kicks
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| 15:17 | <jaffo> zeus:/opt/ltsp/i386# netstat -anp|grep ":69"
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| 15:17 | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:* 2612/inetd
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| 15:17 | thats what i get
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| 15:17 | <cliebow> beautiwah..
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| 15:18 | perhaps use pastebot.ltsp.org to post your dhcpd.conf
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| 15:18 | <jaffo> ok one sec
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| 15:19 | <cliebow> see the dropdown so it posts to this list?
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| 15:19 | <ltsppbot> "jaffo" pasted "dhcp.conf" (19 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/422
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| 15:20 | <jaffo> thats cool
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| 15:21 | <cliebow> looks perfectly stock..you should have pxelinux.0 in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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| 15:21 | and a pxeliux.cfg folder with default in it as well
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| 15:23 | <jaffo> just checked, i have both as you say
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| 15:23 | <cliebow> your server ip is 192.168.1.1?
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| 15:23 | <jaffo> my router is, the server is .10
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| 15:24 | <cliebow> vagrantc:is ther no next-server requirement nymore?
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| 15:24 | <jaffo> iread something on the wiki about a bug maybe requireing that line
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| 15:24 | says something like nextserver ip.address.of.server or something to that effect
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| 15:24 | <cliebow> not exactly a bug..just a reinterpretation
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| 15:25 | <vagrantc> cliebow: next-server is needed on debian, ubuntu has patched dhcp3-server to not require it
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| 15:25 | <cliebow> ahh great..
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| 15:25 | <jaffo> so where in dhcpd.conf do i put that line
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| 15:25 | <vagrantc> upstream isc dhcpd requires it
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| 15:26 | <jaffo> and is it "next-server ip.addres.of.server;"
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| 15:26 | <cliebow> jaffo: try it under the option sttements
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| 15:26 | next-server "192,168.1.10";
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| 15:27 | iirc
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| 15:27 | <cliebow> restart dhcp
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| 15:29 | next server 192.168.1.10;
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| 15:29 | <jaffo> loading vmlinuz.....
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| 15:30 | progress...
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| 15:30 | eth0 link up
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| 15:30 | <cliebow> ...drumroll....
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| 15:30 | <jaffo> hmmm seemsto have paused there
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| 15:31 | <cliebow> dont suppose there are 2 nics in your client...
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| 15:31 | <jaffo> no in neither the clients nor the server
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| 15:32 | should i put a second in the server even though it connects to the same router
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| 15:32 | <cliebow> check on your sever logs..with tail -f see that two dhcp requests are made when your client boots..
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| 15:32 | <jaffo> it looked as though it was going to load, that's the furthest so far
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| 15:33 | <cliebow> no dont need a second necessarily
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| 15:33 | <jaffo> ok that's what i read
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| 15:33 | i read something about sshkeys needing to be reset if i changed the ip from the default
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| 15:34 | could that be a problem
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| 15:34 | <cliebow> not at this stage
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| 15:34 | sshkeys only come into play at the login screen
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| 15:34 | <jaffo> ok
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| 15:35 | <cliebow> your first dhcp request works cause pxelinux works and installs the kernel and initramfs on the client
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| 15:36 | the kernel on client then initializes the network card and asks dhcp a second time for a root-path
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| 15:37 | if that seond request is successful then your nfs server comes into play..
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| 15:37 | umm..scratch that..
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| 15:37 | <vagrantc> is it possible that your router is running a DHCP server also?
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| 15:37 | <jaffo> nope, its disabled
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| 15:38 | i made sure again
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| 15:38 | <cliebow> so you should see both requests in your server logs
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| 15:40 | <jaffo> maybe beyond the scope ofthis channel but if you don't mind, where do i look
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| 15:41 | <cliebow> umm in /var/log..must be messages..or daemon.log..or auth.log..
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| 15:41 | <cliebow> i havnt used debian..
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| 15:41 | Hey Steve!!!
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| 15:41 | <PMant1s> sup guys
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| 15:41 | <jaffo> syslog
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| 15:41 | ok i see one DHCPDISCOVER
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| 15:41 | and one DHCPOFFER
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| 15:42 | <cliebow> not much new...other than ltsp is all new
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| 15:42 | jaffo: use tail -f /var/log/syslog and watch in real tme as the client boots..
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| 15:43 | <jaffo> ok doing now
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| 15:44 | <ltsppbot> "jaffo" pasted "dhcp" (15 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/423
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| 15:44 | <jaffo> there'swhat i get
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| 15:45 | something in there about client doesnt' accept options from tftpd
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| 15:46 | <cliebow> do you know what card is in the client? you see tftp is giving a warning..but its function is long complete when secod request comes in
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| 15:47 | <jaffo> intel pro/1000
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| 15:47 | <cliebow> i am not sure if that gig card is supported
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| 15:47 | or was that a typo/
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| 15:47 | <jaffo> its the samecard in the server
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| 15:48 | <PMant1s> doesn't that use the same driver as the pro/100?
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| 15:48 | <jaffo> yes
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| 15:48 | and the link is only 10/100
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| 15:48 | err 10M
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| 15:48 | * jaffo thinks | |
| 15:48 | <cliebow> 1o meg....that may be the prob..
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| 15:49 | try a crossover?
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| 15:49 | <PMant1s> X will be a little swow with that, but should work
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| 15:49 | <jaffo> yeah its only one client right now
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| 15:49 | <cliebow> Pmantis:is nt there some negotiation problem there..
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| 15:49 | <jaffo> will be 1gig when done
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| 15:49 | when i get this one working
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| 15:50 | they will all work
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| 15:50 | <PMant1s> hmmm dunno
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| 15:51 | <cliebow> jaffo: can you at least try with 100 meg switch??
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| 15:51 | <jaffo> it's coming it willbe here monday
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| 15:51 | <PMant1s> heh
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| 15:52 | <cliebow> ive never made a gig crossover...
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| 15:52 | <jaffo> but i'd thought it should work but slowly with this 10mbitrouter
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| 15:52 | <cliebow> something tels me there is a negotiation problem..but maybe i am thinking of nfs..
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| 15:53 | <PMant1s> symptom?
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| 15:53 | how far doe it get?
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| 15:53 | <cliebow> his pastebot shows second dhcp only contains discover/offer...no request
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| 15:54 | or ack
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| 15:54 | jaffo: dont suppose you have ethereal..so you can watch the packets?
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| 15:55 | <jaffo> apt-get install etherreal ?
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| 15:55 | heh
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| 15:55 | <cliebow> yep
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| 15:56 | <cliebow> it is totally awesome..
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| 15:56 | <laga> wireshark is the name these days
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| 15:56 | <cliebow> oh yeah,,
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| 15:57 | <jaffo> ok got it
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| 15:58 | <PMant1s> hmm I'm on my cell phone, so I can't open pastebin.. heh
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| 15:58 | <cliebow> cool...boot the client with it listening...
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| 15:58 | Damn you're god
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| 15:58 | whoops
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| 15:58 | <jaffo> oh problem
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| 15:58 | <cliebow> s/god/good
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| 15:59 | <jaffo> i'm ssh'd to the server and wireshark is gui
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| 15:59 | right ?
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| 15:59 | <PMant1s> lol
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| 15:59 | <cliebow> there is something like tethereal..ive never used it
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| 15:59 | which installs with ethereal
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| 16:00 | Jan 19 15:43:51 zeus dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:0c:29:03:73:b6 via eth0
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| 16:00 | Jan 19 15:43:51 zeus dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.199 to 00:0c:29:03:73:b6 via eth0
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| 16:00 | thats all he gets fro second dhcp..over and over
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| 16:01 | <PMant1s> yeah... I think a 100 M connection will fix that
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| 16:01 | <jaffo> ok i type tshark and lots of stuff flying across the screen
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| 16:02 | what do i do now
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| 16:02 | <cliebow> NOW you have to read it 8~)
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| 16:02 | you are seeing your own ssh traffic..
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| 16:02 | mostly
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| 16:03 | <vagrantc> usually, i fix this problem by replacing the ethernet card(s), the switch(es) or the cable(s)
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| 16:03 | <cliebow> you can take that out...
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| 16:03 | <vagrantc> i.e. DHCP server see the client, sends a response, and the client doesn't seem to see it, and keeps asking again
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| 16:04 | <cliebow> jaffo: we thinks you need a better switch..
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| 16:04 | * PMant1s nods | |
| 16:04 | <jaffo> ok let me did around here and see what i can find
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| 16:04 | <vagrantc> i would start with a crossover
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| 16:04 | <cliebow> crossover..assuming there is such a thing..
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| 16:05 | <jaffo> thanks for your help
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| 16:05 | <cliebow> no prob..
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| 16:07 | <PMant1s> gig cards auto crossover.. part of the gig standard.
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| 16:07 | <cliebow> i see
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| 16:07 | someday i will have one of those babies
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| 16:10 | <vagrantc> oooh. autosense
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| 16:10 | that sure is nice.
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| 16:11 | <jaffo> we've got login screen...
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| 16:11 | bad cable end
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| 16:11 | <cliebow> WOOT!
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| 16:11 | <jaffo> awsome
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| 16:11 | ok now the fun stuff begins
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| 16:12 | <cliebow> will she login?
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| 16:12 | <jaffo> and it's 100Mbit connection
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| 16:12 | i'm in the desktop
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| 16:12 | <cliebow> Coolio!!!
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| 16:12 | <jaffo> looks crappy a little blurry but im in
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| 16:12 | and very fast
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| 16:12 | <cliebow> gig cards 8~)
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| 16:12 | <jaffo> what do i edit to mess with the graphics
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| 16:12 | the stuff in /opt/ltsp
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| 16:13 | <cliebow> be careful..
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| 16:13 | <jaffo> ofcourse
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| 16:13 | :;)
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| 16:13 | <cliebow> those are controlled by an lts.conf
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| 16:13 | <jaffo> ok
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| 16:14 | <cliebow> newer editions download an lts.conf if it exists from /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 16:14 | but i think an .ts.conf in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc wil be the default
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| 16:14 | lts.conf
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| 16:15 | <jaffo> ok one quick question and i'm off. where can i find out about accessing/storing data on usb key on the client
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| 16:16 | <cliebow> i believe it should just work..
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| 16:16 | <jaffo> hmmm lets see
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| 16:16 | <cliebow> the key should appear on the servers desktop that yuo are looking at on the client
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| 16:17 | <PMant1s> there's a local option in lts.conf, right?
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| 16:17 | <cliebow> on by default i think
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| 16:18 | <jaffo> i plug inthe usb key on the client that i just booted and nothing happens
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| 16:19 | <cliebow> that is i think in vagrantc's department...in production im still in 4.2
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| 16:23 | <PMant1s> ahh mue-cow
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| 16:26 | <PMant1s> oops
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| 16:26 | <jaffo> ok i lied one more...
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| 16:26 | <cliebow> ?
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| 16:26 | <stgraber> jaffo: you should have a "fuse" group on the server, add your users to this group so they can access the remote devices
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| 16:27 | <jaffo> you guys know how to boot a vmware image that will boot into the server
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| 16:27 | using the pxeboot in the vmwares bios
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| 16:27 | <stgraber> yup, just bridge it to the network interface, then press F12 (or similar)
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| 16:27 | it'll boot using PXE
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| 16:28 | <PMant1s> you can set it to default to PXE, too
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| 16:28 | <jaffo> if i can get that to work windoze is on its way out
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| 16:29 | so people can get used to it for a while then one day. gone.
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| 16:30 | <cliebow> jaffo:wont just an f12 allow you to pick network boot without involving vmware?
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| 16:31 | <stgraber> yes, best would be to use BIOS boot device selection instead of running an emulator on top of Windows
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| 16:31 | you can also burn a CD or floppy to start PXE, then they just have to remove the floppy/CD to boot from the HDD
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| 16:31 | <PMant1s> yah
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| 16:31 | <jaffo> that sounds better
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| 16:32 | is there a howto/wiki on doing that
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| 16:32 | <PMant1s> or ise PXEgrub and give them a menu
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| 16:32 | <cliebow> yah
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| 16:32 | <jaffo> pxegrub?
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| 16:32 | <stgraber> www.rom-o-matic.net will be your friend for the floppy/iso thing
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| 16:32 | (may vary from a NIC to another)
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| 16:32 | <PMant1s> not part of ltsp, but yes.
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| 16:32 | <cliebow> yay Marty!!
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| 16:33 | <PMant1s> my PXE menu lists memtest, local hdm etc
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| 16:33 | <jaffo> i'm looking that up. that sounds like better option
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| 16:33 | <PMant1s> errr HD
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| 16:34 | I think I'm using PXEmenu... or whatever it's called.
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| 16:34 | not home to look. :)
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| 16:35 | <jaffo> ok i'm thinking here... dangerous... anyway for the wireless notebook users, is there a way to get them onboard,wirelessly or using a usbkey with the wep info etc on it
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| 16:36 | <laga> wlan should be possible if you ad the necessary stuff to the initramfs. that'll be one of the next things i'm doing i think
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| 16:36 | but i'd guess there are ready-made scripts for that
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| 16:37 | <jaffo> that would be very cool
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| 16:37 | <cliebow> jaffo:that is a problem..
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| 16:38 | <stgraber> you need to have the initramfs stored locally
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| 16:39 | and contains the wireless bit so it can mount the fs
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| 16:39 | <cliebow> you got a catch22 there..
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| 16:39 | as stgraber sys
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| 16:40 | <laga> i think i added the necessary hacks to put the kernel + initramfs to a usb pen drive
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| 16:40 | just gotta verify :)
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| 16:40 | <cliebow> cool!
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| 16:41 | <jaffo> i'm looking and it appears someone is working on using pxegrub to boot a broadcom wireless card and has had some success
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| 16:41 | <laga> in my local tree that is. i'll start submitting patches soon
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| 16:41 | jaffo: i've got a prism2-based card which can be used with etherboot. of course, it only works on unencrypted wlans
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| 16:41 | was pretty cool, though :)
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| 16:42 | <cliebow> yeah...the undoable is now the norm
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| 16:42 | <jaffo> that would work, the router blocks access to only MAC's in the config anyway so its not encrypted as it is now
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| 16:43 | <laga> that's pretty insecure
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| 16:43 | unless you put a VPN on top of that
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| 16:44 | <jaffo> yeah its a vpn
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| 16:44 | i'm gonna have to start logging this damn channel i forgot
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| 16:45 | <PMant1s> hehe
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| 16:45 | <cliebow> hehee
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| 16:45 | <laga> would be cool to add vpn support to the initramfs
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| 16:45 | i'm starting to like all the early userspace stuff
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| 16:46 | <PMant1s> ok time to go... naybe BBL
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| 16:46 | err maybe
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| 16:50 | <jaffo> i just tried booting an empty vmware profile and pressing f12, it got about as far as the real system did before i replaced the cable
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| 16:51 | its on a wireless notebook with vmware workstation installed
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| 16:51 | looked promising though
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