IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)


Channel log from 20 December 2017   (all times are UTC)

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14:35
<onixx>
after some more testing, quiet alone goes to screen 7 automatically, but quiet splash stays on screen 1
14:39
and splash alone causes the issue
14:48
<bcg>
do you have SCREEN_DEFAULT=07 in your lts.conf? if not, try it.
15:14
<onixx>
bcg: I tried and does not work either... on screen 1 at boot
15:15
<bcg>
ok, then I can't help, as I use text mode boot.
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15:50
<onixx>
bcg: thanks
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17:17
<JerryT>
Can you set the LDM session type?
17:17
Like "Mate" or "Gnome"?
17:19
nevermind
17:19
"LDM_SESSION="
17:49
<alkisg>
onixx: which distro/version is that? Because adding quiet splash here in Ubuntu MATE 16.04, works fine
17:49
<onixx>
alkisg: works here for fatclient
17:50
alkisg: not for thin...
17:50
alkisg: ubuntu server
17:50
alkisg: (same version as you I believe)
17:50
<alkisg>
OK let me try with thin
17:51
Works with thin here too
17:51
so, if you put this in lts.conf:
17:51
LTSP_FATCLIENT=False
17:52
So that you try with your fat client hardware, but in thin client mode
17:52
So that we see if it's a problem with ltsp or with your hardware
17:52
...what happens then?
17:52
<onixx>
alkisg: odd...
17:52
alkisg: same hardware, I have just played with memory threshold to change its behaviour
17:53
<alkisg>
So by only changing FAT_RAM_THRESHOLD and quiet splash, you get the issue?
17:54
<onixx>
alkisg: LTSP_FATCLIENT is undefined
17:54
<alkisg>
onixx: Yes I asked you to define it
17:54
But you said you're using FAT_RAM_THRESHOLD which is the same thing
17:54
Correct?
17:55
<onixx>
alkisg: yes, that's what I am using currently
17:55
alkisg: I can do LTSP_FATCLIENT=False to try
17:55
<alkisg>
Can you also answer this one?
17:55
(07:53:22 μμ) alkisg: So by only changing FAT_RAM_THRESHOLD and quiet splash, you get the issue?
17:56
<onixx>
alkisg: yes i do
17:56
<alkisg>
And if you press alt+ctrl+f7 you see ldm without issues?
17:56
<onixx>
alkisg: correct
17:56
<alkisg>
Which graphics card is that?
17:57
And client cpu/ram?
17:57
<onixx>
alkisg: lenovo x201 laptop, I believe its intel graphic, its an i5
17:58
alkisg: 2048 ram
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<alkisg>
onixx: and your kernel, which one is it?
18:00
4.4 or 4.10 etc?
18:01
<onixx>
4.4.0-103-generic #126-Ubuntu SMP
18:01
<alkisg>
Recent i5 CPUs have problems with older kernels like 4.4
18:02
Doy ou have epoptes, can you check the exact cpu model?
18:02
Also, try this in lts.conf: X_SMART_COLOR_DEPTH=False
18:03
<onixx>
alkisg: this one is old... i don't but /proc/cpuinfo: U520 @ 1.07
18:04
<alkisg>
If you mean this one , then yes it's old, should be ok: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-520UM+%40+1.07GHz&id=785
18:04
Try with X_SMART_COLOR_DEPTH as I said above
18:05
<onixx>
alkisg: doing it now. do I need to redo the image for that change ^
18:16
alkisg: I tried and same results.. fyi, i remove the ram threshold and just did LTSP_FATCLIENT=False with X_SMART_COLOR_DEPTH=False
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18:23
<Moha>
Hi!
18:24
<alkisg>
Hello :)
18:24
<Moha>
Hello, please, let me know if it is possible to create images for 32bit clients using LTSP-MANAGER in Ubuntu Desktop 64bits?
18:24
<alkisg>
Moha: no, unless you use a VM
18:24
(e.g. virtualbox, or a template client)
18:24
Why doesn't 32bit on the server fit you?
18:24
onixx: if you want, i have a few minutes to check over vnc/epoptes
18:29
<Moha>
My idea is to create 32bit and 64bit images for clients (THINCLIENTS) using the same LTSP server.
18:30
<onixx>
alkisg: can't really, I am not setup with either. I guess I will try with another machine to see if the same happens
18:30
alkisg: must be my machine if it works for you
18:30
<alkisg>
Moha: why isn't 32bit ok for all your machines?
18:30
onixx: I tried in vbox only
18:31
<onixx>
alkisg: good idea. I will try this now
18:35
alkisg: works in vbox :-)
18:36
<Moha>
What command have you used to create the images?
18:37
<alkisg>
Moha: you're not replying to questions, so I'll stop replying too
18:37
(08:24:40 μμ) alkisg: Why doesn't 32bit on the server fit you?
18:37
(08:30:31 μμ) alkisg: Moha: why isn't 32bit ok for all your machines?
18:38
<onixx>
alkisg: So it looks like the x201 is acting up :-)
18:39
<alkisg>
onixx: it sounds like a race condition
18:39
I think Hyperbyte also saw it once
18:39
<Moha>
I have 32-bit and 64-bit clients and I'm not sure if the 64-bit image will work for all clients.
18:39
<alkisg>
I haven't been able to reproduce it though, so I can't debug it
18:39
Moha: the 32 bit image should work for all clients
18:39
It's ok for 64bit clients too
18:39
You may have some misunderstanding and I was trying to help you there
18:39
<onixx>
alkisg: thanks for your help
18:39
<alkisg>
np
18:40
<Moha>
I do not answer because I do not know English, I speak Spanish. I am using a translator...;)
18:41
<alkisg>
I'm Greek :)
18:41
Don't worry too much about language
18:41
Use 32bit for all your PCs, on the server too
18:41
<Moha>
OK, Thanks!!
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<ian_j>
is ltsp currently using aufs or overlayfs?