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Channel log from 20 December 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 14:35 | <onixx> after some more testing, quiet alone goes to screen 7 automatically, but quiet splash stays on screen 1
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| 14:39 | and splash alone causes the issue
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| 14:48 | <bcg> do you have SCREEN_DEFAULT=07 in your lts.conf? if not, try it.
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| 15:14 | <onixx> bcg: I tried and does not work either... on screen 1 at boot
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| 15:15 | <bcg> ok, then I can't help, as I use text mode boot.
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| 15:50 | <onixx> bcg: thanks
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| 17:17 | <JerryT> Can you set the LDM session type?
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| 17:17 | Like "Mate" or "Gnome"?
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| 17:19 | nevermind
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| 17:19 | "LDM_SESSION="
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| 17:49 | <alkisg> onixx: which distro/version is that? Because adding quiet splash here in Ubuntu MATE 16.04, works fine
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| 17:49 | <onixx> alkisg: works here for fatclient
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| 17:50 | alkisg: not for thin...
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| 17:50 | alkisg: ubuntu server
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| 17:50 | alkisg: (same version as you I believe)
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| 17:50 | <alkisg> OK let me try with thin
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| 17:51 | Works with thin here too
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| 17:51 | so, if you put this in lts.conf:
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| 17:51 | LTSP_FATCLIENT=False
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| 17:52 | So that you try with your fat client hardware, but in thin client mode
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| 17:52 | So that we see if it's a problem with ltsp or with your hardware
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| 17:52 | ...what happens then?
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| 17:52 | <onixx> alkisg: odd...
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| 17:52 | alkisg: same hardware, I have just played with memory threshold to change its behaviour
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| 17:53 | <alkisg> So by only changing FAT_RAM_THRESHOLD and quiet splash, you get the issue?
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| 17:54 | <onixx> alkisg: LTSP_FATCLIENT is undefined
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| 17:54 | <alkisg> onixx: Yes I asked you to define it
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| 17:54 | But you said you're using FAT_RAM_THRESHOLD which is the same thing
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| 17:54 | Correct?
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| 17:55 | <onixx> alkisg: yes, that's what I am using currently
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| 17:55 | alkisg: I can do LTSP_FATCLIENT=False to try
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| 17:55 | <alkisg> Can you also answer this one?
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| 17:55 | (07:53:22 μμ) alkisg: So by only changing FAT_RAM_THRESHOLD and quiet splash, you get the issue?
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| 17:56 | <onixx> alkisg: yes i do
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| 17:56 | <alkisg> And if you press alt+ctrl+f7 you see ldm without issues?
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| 17:56 | <onixx> alkisg: correct
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| 17:56 | <alkisg> Which graphics card is that?
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| 17:57 | And client cpu/ram?
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| 17:57 | <onixx> alkisg: lenovo x201 laptop, I believe its intel graphic, its an i5
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| 17:58 | alkisg: 2048 ram
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| 18:00 | <alkisg> onixx: and your kernel, which one is it?
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| 18:00 | 4.4 or 4.10 etc?
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| 18:01 | <onixx> 4.4.0-103-generic #126-Ubuntu SMP
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| 18:01 | <alkisg> Recent i5 CPUs have problems with older kernels like 4.4
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| 18:02 | Doy ou have epoptes, can you check the exact cpu model?
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| 18:02 | Also, try this in lts.conf: X_SMART_COLOR_DEPTH=False
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| 18:03 | <onixx> alkisg: this one is old... i don't but /proc/cpuinfo: U520 @ 1.07
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| 18:04 | <alkisg> If you mean this one , then yes it's old, should be ok: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-520UM+%40+1.07GHz&id=785
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| 18:04 | Try with X_SMART_COLOR_DEPTH as I said above
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| 18:05 | <onixx> alkisg: doing it now. do I need to redo the image for that change ^
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| 18:16 | alkisg: I tried and same results.. fyi, i remove the ram threshold and just did LTSP_FATCLIENT=False with X_SMART_COLOR_DEPTH=False
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| 18:23 | <Moha> Hi!
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| 18:24 | <alkisg> Hello :)
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| 18:24 | <Moha> Hello, please, let me know if it is possible to create images for 32bit clients using LTSP-MANAGER in Ubuntu Desktop 64bits?
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| 18:24 | <alkisg> Moha: no, unless you use a VM
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| 18:24 | (e.g. virtualbox, or a template client)
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| 18:24 | Why doesn't 32bit on the server fit you?
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| 18:24 | onixx: if you want, i have a few minutes to check over vnc/epoptes
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| 18:29 | <Moha> My idea is to create 32bit and 64bit images for clients (THINCLIENTS) using the same LTSP server.
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| 18:30 | <onixx> alkisg: can't really, I am not setup with either. I guess I will try with another machine to see if the same happens
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| 18:30 | alkisg: must be my machine if it works for you
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| 18:30 | <alkisg> Moha: why isn't 32bit ok for all your machines?
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| 18:30 | onixx: I tried in vbox only
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| 18:31 | <onixx> alkisg: good idea. I will try this now
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| 18:35 | alkisg: works in vbox :-)
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| 18:36 | <Moha> What command have you used to create the images?
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| 18:37 | <alkisg> Moha: you're not replying to questions, so I'll stop replying too
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| 18:37 | (08:24:40 μμ) alkisg: Why doesn't 32bit on the server fit you?
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| 18:37 | (08:30:31 μμ) alkisg: Moha: why isn't 32bit ok for all your machines?
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| 18:38 | <onixx> alkisg: So it looks like the x201 is acting up :-)
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| 18:39 | <alkisg> onixx: it sounds like a race condition
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| 18:39 | I think Hyperbyte also saw it once
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| 18:39 | <Moha> I have 32-bit and 64-bit clients and I'm not sure if the 64-bit image will work for all clients.
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| 18:39 | <alkisg> I haven't been able to reproduce it though, so I can't debug it
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| 18:39 | Moha: the 32 bit image should work for all clients
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| 18:39 | It's ok for 64bit clients too
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| 18:39 | You may have some misunderstanding and I was trying to help you there
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| 18:39 | <onixx> alkisg: thanks for your help
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| 18:39 | <alkisg> np
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| 18:40 | <Moha> I do not answer because I do not know English, I speak Spanish. I am using a translator...;)
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| 18:41 | <alkisg> I'm Greek :)
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| 18:41 | Don't worry too much about language
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| 18:41 | Use 32bit for all your PCs, on the server too
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| 18:41 | <Moha> OK, Thanks!!
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| 23:21 | <ian_j> is ltsp currently using aufs or overlayfs?
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