IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 January 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:43 | <vagrantc> highvoltage: well, i've almost got ldm-themes with softwaves theme built.
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| 00:44 | pretty-much just a copy/paste of the lines theme with a new background .svg
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| 00:49 | alkisg: what was the trick you had about a transparent logo to fix the login display issues?
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| 02:56 | <vagrantc> highvoltage: and uploaded ldm-themes 17.01 :)
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| 02:57 | the menu selections could probably use a more elegant touch-up with the colors ...
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| 03:02 | but at least we'll get something in time for the freeze
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| 03:04 | arg, nbd is hanging on shutdown now
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| 03:51 | <avega> hi there, I've been trying for several days to put a ltsp-server on my linux mint, tried several instructions , both normal and pnp. By a chance anyone was succesful on linux mint so you can guide me.
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| 04:41 | <highvoltage> va<tab> *sigh* :)
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| 04:42 | (time for good old email)
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| 04:43 | <gehidore> +1+
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| 06:39 | <alkisg> highvoltage, va<tab>: the trick with the debian theme cutting the translated "username:" in half, was to put a wider logo on top of it, even if half of the logo was transparent
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| 06:43 | Message #20 in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=615017
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| 06:44 | <highvoltage> yeah I'm more curious how vagrant is getting it into the archive with the freeze. debian seems really strict about it and I was a bit worried about it, but I guess vagrant knows a trick.
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| 06:45 | <alkisg> highvoltage: isn't the freeze at 6th of february?
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| 06:45 | minus 10 days for the testing migration => 26th of jan...
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| 06:46 | <highvoltage> alkisg: https://release.debian.org/stretch/freeze_policy.html
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| 06:46 | I guess artwork is fine for soft-freeze then
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| 11:12 | <lliurex-admin> hi
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| 14:07 | <sbalneav> So, what should I be working on next? I don't want to lose the momentum we've built for LTSP6
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| 17:03 | <alkisg> vagrantc: ping?
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| 17:10 | <vagrantc> alkisg: ping
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| 17:11 | <sbalneav> alkisg, vagrantc: what should I work on next?
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| 17:12 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: i was thinking of packaging up the pam_sshauth.py stuff into libpam-sshauth and uploading to debian experimental (as it's really too late for such major changes for stretch)
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| 17:13 | <sbalneav> Cool
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| 17:14 | <vagrantc> !ltsp6
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| 17:14 | <ltsp`> ltsp6: (#1) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/?field.tag=ltsp6, or (#2) wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Dev:LTSPPamNotes
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| 17:14 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: see anything in there to prod?
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| 17:18 | <sbalneav> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1653282
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| 17:18 | lightdm doesn't use .dmrc?
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| 17:18 | * vagrantc curses lightdm | |
| 17:20 | <sbalneav> hm
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| 17:22 | * vagrantc wonders what should be cherry-picked from ltsp5 into ltsp6 | |
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| 17:23 | <vagrantc> not a whole lot, but i think we want to keep init-ltsp.d or something similar, and maybe rewrite ltsp-update-image to be a little more modular/functional
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| 17:23 | <sbalneav> We haven't got anything in yet for building chroots or stuff.
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| 17:23 | yeah
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| 17:23 | <vagrantc> yeah, i've been meaning to take a stab at chroot building
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| 17:24 | although i'm kind of of the opionion that there will be no ltsp-build-client, just some simple documentation along the lines of "build a chroot, install ltsp-client"
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| 17:24 | with some recommended chroot-building tools
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| 17:25 | i think i took the chroot-building bug
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| 17:25 | of, if there is an ltsp-build-client, it will be hugely simplified
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| 17:25 | otavio and i kind of over-engineered that when we added multi-distro support
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| 17:29 | <sbalneav> I'm happy if we just divest ourselves of it and use some other chroot building tool. Which one were you thinking?
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| 17:30 | <vagrantc> well, i wasn't thinking any one in particular, honestly.
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| 17:30 | <sbalneav> debootstrap/schroot?
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| 17:30 | <vagrantc> i did think about having a go at some ansible modules
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| 17:31 | vmdebootstrap looked promising, but it would take too much patching to just be a chroot-builder
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| 17:31 | grml-debootstrap maybe
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| 17:32 | but also, since it's going to be distro-specific, each distro is going to have it's own chroot builder family
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| 17:33 | basically, everything should just be "install a minimal chroot, install ltsp-client, install whatever else you might want"
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| 17:33 | some of the chroot builders can handle the installation of additional packages out of the box
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| 17:34 | but i'm not thinking ltsp-build-client in $PATH, rather some example scripts in docs and whatnot
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| 17:34 | i could be convinced otherwise
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| 17:34 | <sbalneav> Not by me. I like that approach.
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| 17:35 | Just document what a chroot must contain.
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| 17:35 | Far easier for other distros to support.
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| 17:36 | <vagrantc> exactly
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| 17:37 | <alkisg> vagrantc: we're thinking of recommending ssvnc, because tigervnc doesn't support multiple incoming connections
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| 17:38 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah, saw that
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| 17:38 | <alkisg> if default-jre is an issue, maybe we could ask the debian maintainers to ship another package, like ssvnc-nojava, which doesn't have that recommendation?
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| 17:40 | <vagrantc> oh yeah, that was really annoying
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| 17:40 | <alkisg> Or just lower it to "suggests"...
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| 17:40 | <vagrantc> well, the whole point of recommends is to allow maintainers to ship huge dependency trees without having to ship a separate package
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| 17:41 | suggests basically means nothing
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| 17:41 | <alkisg> We do have ltsp-server-standalone and ltsp-server for the same purpose
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| 17:41 | But OK I don't mind having chroots with java in them :D
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| 17:41 | I'm using ltsp-pnp anyway :D
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| 17:41 | So if you don't mind, I don't mind either!
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| 17:41 | suggests means "there's some additional functionality if you manually install that package"
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| 17:42 | Which is what the java applet is about
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| 17:42 | <vagrantc> alkisg: if it's the best option, it's unfortunate to bloat the minimal install, but if people really care, they can install epoptes with recommends disabled
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| 17:42 | <alkisg> OK
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| 17:42 | For ubuntu 16.04 we'll keep the xvnc4viewer first
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| 17:42 | <vagrantc> alkisg: we could ask to get it demoted to suggests, but practicall speaking, suggests aren't used much
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| 17:42 | <alkisg> So it'll only affect stretch users
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| 17:42 | I don't think ssvnc java applet is used much either
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| 17:43 | (compared to the actual ssvnc client)
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| 17:43 | <vagrantc> it's worth filing a wishlist bug about it, for sure
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| 21:32 | <bennabiy> Hrm, my usb ports on my fat client are spotty
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| 21:32 | cannot hook up a thumb drive to it
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| 21:32 | but the drive works fine in the server
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