IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 1 October 2022 (all times are UTC)
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| 16:55 | <orac95[m]> HI
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| 16:56 | <alkisg> Hello orac95
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| 16:57 | <orac95[m]> Saludos!
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| 16:57 | Tengo una duda, estoy configurando ltsp pero mi duda es
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| 16:57 | se puede tener internet en las terminales
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| 16:57 | Cheers!
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| 16:57 | I have a question, I am configuring ltsp but my question is
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| 16:57 | you can have internet in the terminals
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| 16:57 | <alkisg> Of course. Are you using a single NIC setup, or a dual NIC?
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| 16:58 | <orac95[m]> the first time only single NIC, but I have dual NIC
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| 16:58 | <alkisg> Single NIC is fine, it means that the clients will get an IP from your router, and use your router as the gateway
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| 16:58 | They will have a normal internet connection where the LTSP server isn't involved
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| 17:00 | <orac95[m]> sorry for me english, I bad my lenguaje
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> No worries I'm Greek ;)
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| 17:01 | <orac95[m]> I have finished configuring my server automatically and I have not configured it over the network
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| 17:01 | when turning on the terminals they do not give internet, what do you recommend
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| 17:01 | ?
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> Does your server have internet connection?
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| 17:03 | <orac95[m]> Yeap,yeap
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| 17:03 | is this computer
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| 17:03 | <alkisg> Do you have epoptes installed? If so I could have a look via screen sharing
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| 17:03 | !vnc-edide
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| 17:03 | <ltspbot> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 17:04 | <orac95[m]> ok one moment
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| 17:07 | * orac95[m] uploaded an image: (94KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/DbaAktVPrshLuPVTWEvXesZg/Captura%20desde%202022-10-01%2012-06-36.png > | |
| 17:07 | <orac95[m]> ready
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| 17:08 | <alkisg> Ok wait I'll go to my pc I'm on the phone 😂
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| 17:08 | <orac95[m]> haha thanks
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> orac95: I haven't received a connection, are you sure you have Internet on the epoptes PC?
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| 17:10 | Can you `ping srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr` ?
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| 17:10 | <orac95[m]> oki try
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| 17:11 | * orac95[m] uploaded an image: (173KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/YrccrYDDBunBELcKEUEGdilq/Captura%20desde%202022-10-01%2012-11-12.png > | |
| 17:13 | <alkisg> Ah you're probably on wayland
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| 17:13 | Can you login and then select "Ubuntu with xorg" on the login screen?
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| 17:13 | Screen sharing doesn't work on wayland
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| 17:13 | https://itsfoss.com/switch-xorg-wayland/
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| 17:14 | <orac95[m]> ok ok
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| 17:14 | one moment
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| 17:15 | <alkisg> s/login/logout/
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| 17:17 | <alkisg> You don't need to edit any files
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| 17:17 | Logout, select your username, then click the gear
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| 17:18 | It will have two options, wayland or xorg
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| 17:18 | Select xorg, type your password and login
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| 17:19 | <orac95[m]> I'll try
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| 17:19 | <alkisg> See the screenshots in the link I pasted above if you want
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| 17:19 | <orac95[m]> yes
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| 17:30 | <orac95[m]> Hi hi
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| 17:31 | you have rason
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| 17:31 | in the server and the thin clients change xorg
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| 17:32 | but the iInternet connect is same, without internet
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| 17:32 | <alkisg> If you connected with xorg on the server, you can now share your screen with me
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| 17:32 | !vnc-edide
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| 17:32 | <ltspbot> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
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| 17:34 | <orac95[m]> oki
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| 17:34 | I can screen record for save procediment?
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| 17:34 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 17:34 | <orac95[m]> I love admin
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| 17:41 | <alkisg> orac95: the problem is that your DNS server only works over ipv6
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| 17:41 | All ipv4 DNS servers are blocked by your network administrator
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| 17:41 | <orac95[m]> 😵
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| 17:42 | <alkisg> You can setup your own dns server if you wish, in the ltsp server
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| 17:42 | Do you want me to do that?
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| 17:42 | Or do you want to fix your real DNS server? You'll need to contact your network administrator for this
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| 17:42 | Tell him "host www.google.com 192.168.100.1" doesn't work
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| 17:43 | <orac95[m]> if you help, yes you can
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| 17:43 | I kno -i
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| 17:43 | Sorry
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| 17:44 | I know the networt found whith repearts, the modem is connect a this computer, and you need intro for the modem the user is root and password is admin
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| 17:46 | you like disconnet the second nic?
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| 17:49 | <alkisg> Yes can you disconnect enp1s0?
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| 17:49 | <orac95[m]> oki
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| 17:49 | <alkisg> If you disconnect from the chat, reconnect
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| 17:49 | <orac95[m]> ready
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| 17:50 | <alkisg> DNS has problems on the server too
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| 17:51 | See I write `host www.in.gr` and it replies after 10 seconds and then it finishes running after 30 seconds
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| 17:51 | It should reply in less than one second
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| 17:51 | You need to fix your DNS server.
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| 17:56 | orac95: something is wrong in your router, it blocks various DNS and delays too much for other DNS
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| 17:56 | The clients do have internet, they can ping 8.8.8.8, but they don't have DNS
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| 17:56 | You can ask your ISP to resolve this issue
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| 17:58 | <orac95[m]> I understand, when solving the problem, do you think I need to configure something again?
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| 17:58 | <alkisg> Tell them that when you run a command like `time www.google.gr` it takes 30 seconds to finish, while it should take less than 1 second
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| 17:58 | I restored dnsmasq, everything is as it was before our screen sharing
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| 17:58 | If you solve the router issue, then the clients will have internet without having to configure anything at all
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| 18:01 | <orac95[m]> I really appreciate the work I have on Saturdays, I didn't know if I would find support to configure, I have noticed the unstable network in some things, in Mexico it will take a few days to solve the connector, but with what you recommended I can start to assemble , can I support something for your support?
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| 18:02 | <alkisg> orac95: no worries that didn't take long, you're welcome :)
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| 18:04 | <orac95[m]> de verdad, no se como agradecerte, pero si necesitan ayuda en español con mucho gusto, tome el proyecto de una escuela ya que el anterior encargador fallecio y me a tomado varios dias ver, corregir y checar como configurar todo, pero con tu ayuda me a quedado mas claro
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| 18:05 | really, I don't know how to thank you, but if you need help in Spanish, I would be happy to take the project from a school since the previous manager passed away and it has taken me several days to see, correct and check how to configure everything, but with your help I it has become clearer
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| 18:09 | <vagrantc> i've had some weird dns issues with recent systems ... all the various ways to configure dns often result in the wrong primary dns server
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| 18:09 | systemd-resolved, ifup/ifdown, resolvconf, network-manager ... all seem to fight each other :/
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| 18:11 | <alkisg> True... but in this case it's the router itself (at 192.168.100.1) that takes 30 seconds to reply
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| 18:11 | There's something misconfigured on the router itself (or on the ISP)
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| 18:11 | <vagrantc> sure, but it could be getting bad information ...
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| 18:12 | i think the most recent thing is getting ipv6 dns routers listed as preferred, but ipv6 actually not routing correctly
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| 18:12 | so it tries the first two ipv6 dns servers, times out, and finally falls back to the ipv4 dns server
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| 18:13 | <alkisg> Are you talking about the LTSP server? The `host www.google.com 192.168.100.1` command should bypass all other DNS settings, shouldn't it?
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| 18:13 | Since we specify the DNS server to use in the cmdline
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| 18:14 | <vagrantc> i'm not talking about ltsp at all, really, just a general problem i've seen with dns resolution :)
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| 18:14 | <alkisg> I mean, that problem may well happen on the router itself, and that would be for the ISP to resolve
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| 18:14 | <orac95[m]> I have another ISP in other place, I mount server and try
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| 18:14 | <vagrantc> orac95[m]: buena suerte!
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| 18:15 | <orac95[m]> vagrantc: gracias <3
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| 18:15 | <alkisg> I don't think the problem cannot be solved from orac95's Linux boxes though; the ISP even blocks access to other DNS servers
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| 18:15 | s/cannot/can
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| 18:16 | <orac95[m]> alkisg: yes
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| 18:17 | I share my result with other ISP friends
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| 18:18 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah, sounds like it
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| 18:18 | i mean, you might be able to do some convoluted thing by routing your dns throug h a vpn, but ... that should not be necessary :)
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| 18:38 | <alkisg> orac95: true, setting DNS over HTTPS in firefox should make internet work :D
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| 18:38 | (it's a setting in firefox options)
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