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Channel log from 7 October 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:05 | <gnunux> hi
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| 02:05 | <muppis> hi
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| 02:06 | Anyone yet tried 10.10 ?
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| 02:15 | <jimjimovich> hi guys
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| 02:16 | working on a script to make google chrome work
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| 02:17 | and i was wondering if there is some sort of environment variable or other variable set that would tell me if the current session should have local apps (based off of lts.conf)
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| 02:23 | is there a way to disable compiz for individual clients?
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| 02:40 | <Appiah> gconf
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| 02:40 | !disable-compiz
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| 02:40 | <ltspbot> Appiah: "disable-compiz" :: To disable compiz, try: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 02:46 | <alkisg> !xauthority
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| 02:46 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "xauthority" :: to access the client X session from a local root shell, try: eval $(tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$(pidof -s ldm gdm-simple-greeter gnome-session | cut -d' ' -f1)/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY=') && export DISPLAY XAUTHORITY
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| 03:01 | <jimjimovich> does anyone know how to determine which video driver the client is automatically choosing?
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| 03:04 | having problems with intel i915 and disappearing mouse cursor
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| 03:05 | <alkisg> lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
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| 03:06 | <jimjimovich> alkisg: dude, you know way too much :)
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| 06:39 | <muppis> Problem with LDAP. Cannot add user, says Failed to add user to LDAP database: No such object
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| 07:06 | <muppis> alkisg1, do you have any idea why Webmin gives Failed to add user to LDAP database: No such object when trying to add user to LDAP?
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| 07:06 | <alkisg> muppis: no idea, never used either webmin nor ldap
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| 07:07 | <Appiah> muppis: debug and check the whole paramater that webmin is trying
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| 07:07 | sounds like a misconfiguration
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| 07:08 | <muppis> Yes it does, but which setting..
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| 07:09 | <Appiah> well check the logs and maybe you can figure out exact what option?
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| 07:10 | maybe it's trying to add the user ou,incorrect,dc=mydomain,dc=se when it should go somewhere else?
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| 07:14 | <muppis> Setting is copied from working enviroment.
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| 07:15 | <Appiah> still
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| 07:15 | check the logs
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| 07:19 | <muppis> Says same to syslog.
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| 07:25 | <Appiah> http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/157.html muppis
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| 07:31 | hint turn up the debug level
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| 07:32 | <muppis> Appiah, thanks.
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| 07:34 | Will continue at tomorrow morning.. Frustrated by now.
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| 07:35 | <jimjimovich> How can I turn off the annoying "error" sound on thin clients
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| 07:42 | <muppis> alkisg, NFSv4 is working good. :)
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| 07:44 | <alkisg> Nice, I'll try that for 12.04 :)
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| 07:51 | <jimjimovich> figured out how to get around the chrome as a local app problem. wrote a script for it. once i finish it, i'll share it with you all :)
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| 07:54 | <gnunux> for install a proprietary software ? no thanks ;)
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| 07:55 | <jimjimovich> okay, it'll work for Chromium too
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| 14:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> is there anybody in here responsible or knowledgeable about Fedora 13 and LTSP?
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| 14:23 | Every time I open a program, it opens under the applications menu, which seems to screw up X something firece
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| 14:23 | also, the bottom task bar does not seem to be populated by programs when they start
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| 14:26 | <coordinador> hi
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| 14:26 | is there a way to run all the system locally?
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| 14:27 | i mean, downloading the system from the server, but execute everything locally?
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| 14:29 | <Kyle__> coordinador: THat's called fat-client mode.
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| 14:29 | coordinador: I use that for my labs. And I believe so does alksig.
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| 14:29 | WOrks pretty well.
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| 14:29 | <coordinador> how can i do it? pls
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| 14:30 | <Kyle__> Well, pick your host OS (ubuntu, debian, fedora, etc), and make a fat-client config for it. Then er... do it.
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| 14:30 | <coordinador> now i have a ltsp normal working
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| 14:31 | is there a config in ltsp.conf to make thin clients fat?
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| 14:31 | <Kyle__> Did you make a ltsp-build-client.conf?
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| 14:33 | If you did, more or less you add a FAT_CLIENT_DESKTOPS line at the top, and build a new image using it.
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| 14:33 | I'm using ubuntu, so mine says FAT_CLIENT_DESKTOPS="ubuntu-desktop"
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> !fatclients
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| 14:35 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "fatclients" :: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 14:37 | * Kyle__ sighs | |
| 14:37 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_: I think the new maintainer is Da-Geek, he comes in here once in a while...
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| 14:37 | <Kyle__> My fat clients aren't that powerfull. I think of the more as "big-boned"
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| 14:38 | <coordinador> hummm
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| 14:39 | my boxes have 1gb ram and a 1ghz cpu
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| 14:40 | how can i know which ltsp version do i have?
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| 14:40 | <Kyle__> coordinador: What type of cpu? The'll probably be fine.
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| 14:43 | <coordinador> my boxes are the boxes from disklessworkstations, the 1200 series
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| 14:46 | <Kyle__> Uum. Gosh. Err. Isn't that like a Via Eden processor?
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| 14:46 | <coordinador> yes
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| 14:47 | ..i think.
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| 14:47 | <Kyle__> Well, I'd say go ahead and try the fat-clients then, but don't expect much.
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| 14:47 | Small embdedded devices, terminals, electronic signs, etc, are about the load-level those can handle.
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| 14:48 | <coordinador> ok, now, since the system loads into ram, how much ram it will be used by system?
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| 14:48 | <Kyle__> Loading a modern browser with flash and more than 1 or two tabs will be quite the task for tha proc...
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| 14:48 | coordinador: Actually the system _isn't_ loaded all into ram. It uses a network mount for /, so you pretty much have all the ram you had before.
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| 14:49 | <coordinador> ohh that's nie
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| 14:49 | *nice
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| 14:50 | <coordinador> ok, now i have ubuntu 9.04 with ltsp 5, is there a way to change a configuration so the boxes now run as fat?
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| 14:50 | <johnny> best to upgrade to 10.04
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| 14:51 | <coordinador> i will upgrade with aptitude dist-upgrade, is it dangerous?
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| 14:52 | <Kyle__> coordinador: For the client or the server?
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| 14:53 | * Kyle__ thinks it's not dangerous for either, but he's in a low-stress job now. | |
| 14:53 | <alkisg> (10:39:19 PM) coordinador: how can i know which ltsp version do i have? ==> which distro do you have?
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| 14:53 | <coordinador> Kyle__, server, since clients don't have hard disk
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| 14:53 | alkisg, 9.04
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| 14:54 | ubuntu
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| 14:55 | <Kyle__> coordinador: My mind is still in fat-clients sorry :) For fat clients, the clients have a seperate image, that can be updated and altered independent of the server.
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| 14:55 | <coordinador> ok, so i will update the server with aptitude dist-upgrade ok?
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| 14:55 | <Kyle__> coordinador: T^o go from 9.04 to 10.04? No. For that it's do-release-upgrade
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| 14:56 | (as root)
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| 14:56 | <coordinador> :O
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| 14:56 | didnt know that command
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| 14:56 | <Kyle__> coordinador: It's one of the lesser used commands.
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| 14:56 | <coordinador> the server is being used now, is dangerous to update?
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| 14:56 | don't care, ill be a bofh
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| 14:57 | <Kyle__> coordinador: It's of limmited danger.
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| 14:58 | coordinador: My laptop, for instance, was cleanly updated from 8 to 9 to 10, no problems.
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| 14:59 | <Kyle__> coordinador: And, if you backup the user files and configs, you can use dpkg --get-selections >& packages, to save a list of what packages you have installed, making it easy to re-install fresh, if things go poorly.
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| 15:01 | <coordinador> Kyle__, when i do do-release-upgrade i get 'no new release found' , even after do "aptitude update"
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| 15:01 | <Kyle__> Humm. That's odd.
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| 15:01 | coordinador: Check in #ubuntu, they can help. I gotta run to a meeting. Joy
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| 15:01 | <coordinador> what about if i do update-manager -d ?
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| 15:02 | ok thank you for you help Kyle__
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