IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 24 January 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:45 | <ltspuser_61> haii
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| 00:46 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 00:46 | <ltspuser_61> help lts.conf
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| 00:46 | <vagrantc> !help lts.conf
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| 00:46 | <ltsp> Error: There is no command "lts.conf".
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| 00:46 | <vagrantc> !lts.conf
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| 00:46 | <ltsp> lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 00:47 | <ltspuser_61> help a thin client t1010 doc lts.conf
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| 08:38 | <sha> hi, i built a fatclient image with ubuntu 12.04. it's all working well so far, however, i tested three different clients and all hang at shutdown. i tried acpi=force as kernel parameter (and other workarounds), but the problem persists. is this a known issue? any hint?
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| 10:46 | <meamy> I' m trying at the moment to understand what exactly happens in the start process of ltsp-clients and I stumbled over the /usr/share/ltsp/screen-session.d/ folder the scripts in there are called by the function run_xk_scripts() out of /usr/share/ltsp/screen-x-common but it looks like that these function is never called (and so the scripts in this direction are never processed) did I just miss something? or are these scripte not used at all by L
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| 10:46 | TSP5?
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| 11:08 | <Hyperbyte> meamy, I'm not so intimate with the LTSP source, but I bet run_xk_scripts is called by LDM
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| 11:17 | <dievel> Talking about LDM, I was wandering if I can modify the Preference button in the login screen. To remove some entry. Just an hint on where to look.
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| 11:18 | <meamy> Hyperbyte, the LDM calls bash functions? that would be weird
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| 11:25 | <meamy> hyperbyte ok you are ride
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| 11:25 | :D
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| 12:06 | <Hyperbyte> dievel, LDM source. It's in C.
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| 12:07 | <dievel> Yeah... I just found it in a forum :( Thanks Hyperbyte!
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| 12:10 | <Hyperbyte> dievel, what would you want to edit, if I may ask?
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| 12:19 | <dievel> Hyperbyte: sure. I'd like to remove some entries from the Preference menu. I mean, I'd like to prevent users to choose which "session" to use.
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| 12:21 | I'm also looking for the best method to harden the users homedirs. To prevent a user to look inside the others homedirs. Can you suggest which is the best way to do that?
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| 12:39 | <Hyperbyte> dievel, you don't need to hack LDM for that
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| 12:41 | <Hyperbyte> Just set LDM_FORCE_SESSION in lts.conf
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| 12:43 | That, or you could remove the sessions you don't want them to pick from /usr/share/xsessions/. If you don't uninstall the package providing these files, they will be restored on package updates though.
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| 12:58 | * [GuS] Hi... | |
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| 14:12 | <dievel> Hyperbyte: Aaagh!! :)) I found in the docs only the LDM_SESSION parameter. Am I so dumb?!!! Seems so.
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| 14:40 | <Hyperbyte> dievel, nah, I don't think LDM_FORCE_SESSION is documented
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| 14:40 | Not sure where I got it from
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| 14:43 | <dievel> Hyperbyte, seems LDM_FORCE_SESSION ignored :( With LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=gnome-classic" I can set gnome-classic as default. But this does not prevent the user to change se session using the Preferences button in the login screen.
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| 14:43 | * is ingnore
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| 14:43 | *is ignored
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| 14:43 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm.
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| 14:43 | Maybe LDM_FORCE_SESSION is too new
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| 14:44 | It worked on an ltsp-pnp machine. I bet alkisg can shed some light on this when he is here.
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| 14:44 | <dievel> Hu! This is very probable.
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| 14:44 | <dievel> Alkisg already told me that my ltsp coming in edubuntu is not the newest.
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| 14:45 | I have the 5.3.7-0ubuntu2.3 release.
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| 14:46 | <Hyperbyte> Looks like it was patched in on the 4th of June 2012, according to vagrantc in the IRC logs
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| 14:47 | As of LDM 2.2.10
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| 14:47 | 2.2.9 is the LDM version of Ubuntu 12.04
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| 14:48 | I tried on an ltsp-pnp machine, Ubuntu 12.10, and it worked.
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| 14:48 | I bet alkisg can help you install a newer version of ltsp/ldm.
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| 14:48 | <dievel> Ubuntu 12.10 install the Version: 5.4.3-0ubuntu4 of ltsp-server :)
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| 14:49 | <Hyperbyte> Type ltsp-info
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| 14:49 | What's the ldm-server version?
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| 14:50 | <dievel> ii ltsp-server 5.3.7-0ubuntu2.3
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| 14:50 | ii ldm-edubuntu-theme 2:2.0.47
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| 14:50 | <Hyperbyte> 15:49 <Hyperbyte> What's the ldm-server version?
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| 14:51 | <dievel> It's 5.3.7-0ubuntu2.3
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| 14:51 | <Hyperbyte> I doubt that.
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| 14:51 | ltsp-info | grep ldm-server
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| 14:51 | <dievel> Sorry...my fault.
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| 14:52 | ii ldm-server 2:2.2.9-1ubuntu0.1
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| 14:52 | <Hyperbyte> Right, so, you'd need 2.2.10
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| 14:52 | As far as I can gather, anyways.
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| 14:53 | <dievel> Is it possible that the ubuntu 12.10 install the 2:2.2.11-1?
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| 14:53 | <Hyperbyte> No idea.
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| 14:54 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/ldm-server
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| 14:54 | You could probably also just install the newer versions in 12.04, but I'm not sure how. Not very knowledge in Ubuntu matters.
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| 14:54 | <dievel> Yep.
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| 14:55 | Well...seems there isn't a backport version of ltsp/ldm. Not yet.
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| 14:56 | Which version/distro do you use?
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| 14:56 | <Hyperbyte> Varies.
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| 14:56 | At my workplace, 12.04
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| 14:57 | At the radiostation where I volunteer, 12.04 and 12.10
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| 14:57 | 12.04 for the fat clients, 12.10 for a special thin client
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| 14:58 | <dievel> I see. I suppose I can get the latest release from launchpad.
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| 15:06 | <Hyperbyte> knipwim, you there? :)
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| 15:07 | <knipwim> kind of
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| 15:07 | <Hyperbyte> Should I rather bug you later? :)
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| 15:07 | <knipwim> in a meeting, but i don't have to pay attention
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| 15:07 | <Hyperbyte> Ah.
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| 15:07 | <knipwim> depends a bit on what you want to discuss
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| 15:07 | :)
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| 15:07 | <Hyperbyte> Well, I'll just leave my idea here... reply whenever you feel like it. :-)
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| 15:08 | I was thinking, since the Greek schools are on the LTSP worldmap now, maybe we could write a news article about that for the front page.
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| 15:08 | Thing is, I have no idea how to go about doing that. I could maybe write a concept, that you could revise/rewrite/whatever and publish? :-)
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| 15:08 | <knipwim> sure
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| 15:08 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 15:09 | <knipwim> i'm not very good in writing public messages
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| 15:09 | <Hyperbyte> I'll mock up something soon then. Could take a day or so.
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| 15:09 | <knipwim> in the website project, Alex did all that
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| 15:09 | and he was much better
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| 15:09 | <Hyperbyte> Pretty busy, but just had the idea and figured I'd share. :)
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| 15:09 | <knipwim> cool
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| 15:10 | if i remember, i'll send a meeting reminder tonight
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| 15:10 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 15:18 | <knipwim> Hyperbyte: we should also discuss the topics
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| 15:18 | for next meeting
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| 15:19 | <Hyperbyte> knipwim, should we do this now already?
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| 15:19 | Next meeting is in 1 week, right?
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| 15:19 | The 31st.
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| 15:22 | <knipwim> yes, just sent the reminder :)
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| 15:23 | we don't have to discuss it now
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| 15:24 | do you have some time in the coming weekend? like half an hour
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| 15:25 | <otwieracz> Hm.
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| 15:25 | <Hyperbyte> Not really
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| 15:25 | Next week somewhere during evenings would be best
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| 15:25 | That, or sunday maybe.
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| 15:25 | <otwieracz> Any ideas why one of my application using CLX (Xlib for Common Lisp) fails with:
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| 15:25 | :REASON
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| 15:25 | "No protocol specified
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| 15:26 | http://wklej.org/hash/123b0e8dff3/ exactly
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| 18:54 | <dtrask> I have arrived!
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| 18:55 | * vagrantc waves to dtrask | |
| 18:58 | <knipwim> dtrask: the meeting is next week :)
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| 19:00 | <dtrask> LOL...I'm a week early?
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| 19:00 | <knipwim> yep
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| 19:00 | the meetings are 2-weekly
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| 19:00 | <dtrask> I've never been early...much less a week
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| 19:01 | <jammcq> hey dtrask
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| 19:01 | <dtrask> LOL
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| 19:01 | hey
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| 19:01 | <jammcq> dtrask: did you move to portland?
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| 19:01 | <dtrask> jammcq: no...not yet...still in Vassalboro...the charter school opens in the fall
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| 19:01 | <jammcq> ah
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| 19:01 | <dtrask> I drive to Portland a lot though
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| 19:01 | <jammcq> but you are taking a job there?
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| 19:02 | <dtrask> essentially working 2 jobs, but getting paid for one
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| 19:02 | LOL
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| 19:02 | yes
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| 19:02 | http://baxteracademy.org
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| 19:02 | I'm the IT Director
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| 19:02 | and I'll be teaching as well
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| 19:04 | We have one of the guys from this project teaching with us: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&sqi=2&ved=0CF0QtwIwCA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DW1czBcnX1Ww&ei=d4UBUZ1IsMnQAcKogYgE&usg=AFQjCNFDqh-U-KWkz9VcylV0Lg69KW7lyg&sig2=0_KGw7Tb129Bwbkg3v0WnQ
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| 19:04 | <jammcq> ooh, that thing is creepy
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| 19:05 | i've seen the video before
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| 19:07 | <dtrask> I want an open source version of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z23UeJi_uJ4
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| 19:09 | <knipwim> supercool
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| 21:23 | <ball> hello Patina
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| 21:41 | <Hyperbyte> jammcq, we keep missing eachother by a few hours. :-)
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| 22:20 | <jammcq> Hyperbyte: hey
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| 22:53 | <awilliams> jammcq: How goes it bro.
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| 23:14 | * awilliams thinks jammcq does not know this nick | |
| 23:15 | <jammcq> awilliams: mistik1 ?
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| 23:15 | <awilliams> yep :)
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| 23:15 | <jammcq> hey buddy
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| 23:15 | <awilliams> hey man
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| 23:15 | <jammcq> I saw the nick in the userlist and thought of you but wasn't sure
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| 23:15 | how's it goin?
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| 23:15 | <awilliams> How's the new year treating you
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| 23:15 | <jammcq> treating me ok so far
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| 23:15 | <awilliams> I'm doing pretty well
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| 23:15 | <jammcq> hoping 2013 will be the turn-around year
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| 23:15 | still in Jamaica?
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| 23:15 | <awilliams> Yep
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| 23:17 | <Hyperbyte> jammcq, anything you wanted to discuss? :)
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| 23:26 | <awilliams> jammcq: I was just thinking a few days ago that Adeenha is 18 this year and I've known you most her life
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| 23:27 | been at this Linux thing all her life
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| 23:32 | <jammcq> wow, 18
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| 23:32 | that's crazy
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| 23:32 | <awilliams> yea
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| 23:32 | <jammcq> where is she living?
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| 23:32 | <awilliams> She's in the states these days
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| 23:33 | <jammcq> ah
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| 23:33 | <awilliams> She wanted to finish schooling there so I sent her up
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| 23:33 | She was here with me for a couple years
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| 23:33 | <jammcq> I was just telling someone about you yesterday. telling him about Geeks in the Hood
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| 23:34 | ah the good ole days :)
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| 23:34 | <awilliams> hehe
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| 23:34 | yep
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| 23:34 | Jamaica is still prime for such a thing
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| 23:35 | I may well do it again if/when our business flies
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| 23:36 | <jammcq> I'm thinking Jamaica is still prime for a LTSP dev conf
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| 23:36 | <awilliams> absolutely
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| 23:36 | <jammcq> I'm starting to get more involved. Built a debian ltsp server a few days ago
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| 23:36 | btw, i've been playing with IPv6 lately
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| 23:36 | I remember you were doing that 10 years ago
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| 23:37 | <awilliams> yea, I get almost no chance to do any networking/sysadmin type stuff anymore
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| 23:38 | Its mostly yur fault too :)
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| 23:38 | <jammcq> my fault?
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| 23:38 | <awilliams> You forced me to admit I was a programmer and the rest is history :)
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| 23:38 | <jammcq> whys that?
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| 23:39 | hahahahah
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| 23:39 | anytime someone starts working on ltsp and tells me they're not a programmer, I think "Bullshit"
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| 23:39 | Gadi's not a programmer either... cough cough cough
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| 23:40 | <awilliams> haha
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| 23:42 | <jammcq> hey awilliams, it's been great chatting. I need to run out. taking my wife out to dinner. but let's talk again later
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| 23:43 | <awilliams> later bro
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