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Channel log from 14 January 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:08 | <sbalneav> !s
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| 09:08 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "s" :: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:08 | <sbalneav> fixed
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| 09:09 | <sbalneav> jelly-bean: This has been covered several times on the mailing list, I beleive.
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| 09:41 | <jammcq> bom dia meu amigos
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| 09:41 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> hi jammcq!
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| 09:41 | <jammcq> how's all my friends doing?
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| 09:42 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> jammcq: if you would like to join us here: http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/prod/training/ltspBootCamp.html , we would love to have you.
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| 09:43 | <jammcq> hmm, cool
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| 10:25 | <prpplague> jammcq: hey bud, what's cookin?
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| 10:25 | <jammcq> prpplague: hey
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| 10:25 | how you doing?
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| 10:26 | <prpplague> jammcq: not too bad
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| 10:26 | <jammcq> you still around Dallas?
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| 10:26 | <prpplague> jammcq: yep, ended up going into biz for myself back in august
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| 10:26 | jammcq: and you?
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| 10:27 | <jammcq> oh wow
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| 10:27 | i'm still up here in good old COLD michigan
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| 10:27 | <prpplague> http://www.rad-tech-labs.com
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| 10:28 | <jammcq> prpplague: nice
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| 10:29 | prpplague: business good?
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| 10:29 | <prpplague> jammcq: so far pretty decent, still working on the marketing/sales side of things
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| 10:30 | <jammcq> cool
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| 10:30 | nice clean website
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| 10:30 | I like that
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| 10:31 | <prpplague> jammcq: yea, didn't want something hard to navigate
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| 10:44 | * juub tips his hat. | |
| 10:45 | <juub> Is anyone aware of existing projects making use of LTSP as a HTPC solution?
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| 10:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> juub: home theater?
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| 10:46 | <juub> _UsUrPeR_: yup
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| 10:47 | <_UsUrPeR_> juub: It's possible to do with localapps.
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| 10:48 | <juub> Do forgive my ignorance, I've not looked at LTSP at all beyond bookmarking ltsp.org and reading its front page.
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| 10:49 | <ogra> juub, mythbuntu has an LTSP install mode
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| 10:49 | <_UsUrPeR_> juub: would you be displaying HD content (1080p)?
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| 10:49 | <juub> _UsUrPeR_: ideally.
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| 10:49 | <_UsUrPeR_> juub: do you have some hardware specs in mind for your ideal HT client?
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| 10:50 | <juub> _UsUrPeR_: that's what I'm going over now. I was just thinking that I should also investigate the possibility of taking advantage of the server/client model of X, which then immediately reminded me of LTSP. It's possible I should read up on LTSP more first.
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| 10:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> juub: with HD content, I would advise a large amount of RAM, and a nice video card.
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| 10:51 | <juub> of course.
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| 10:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> I'm not sure about how surround sound/SPDIF output works with ubuntu (never tried it) but that's something to consider as well.
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| 10:51 | <juub> I suppose one can't get around that, huh, even if the rendering stage is done elsewhere?
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| 10:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> rendering 1080p across the network would not be a good experience for you.
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| 10:52 | <juub> WiFi to boot ;)
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| 10:52 | WiFi is the tightest bottleneck in the project, at the moment.
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| 10:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> PXE boot over wifi is not presently something that, to my knowledge, exists as of now
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| 10:53 | <juub> Good to know.
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| 10:53 | <_UsUrPeR_> so you would be relegated to a normal cat5 line or nothing when it comes to LTSP
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| 10:53 | <juub> Indeed.
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| 10:53 | Kind of goes without saying if WiFi isn't available...
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| 10:53 | <dro> juub: you could probably use a wireless bridge if you absolutely had to use wifi
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| 10:54 | * _UsUrPeR_ points to dro | |
| 10:54 | <_UsUrPeR_> he has a point.
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| 10:54 | though HD content would have to be handled on a N network. I'm not sure G has enough bandwidth available
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| 10:54 | <dro> they go router-->bridge wired into router ~~~~~wireless~~~~~ bridge plugged into nic of local pc
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| 10:55 | a wireless n bridge won't be cheap
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| 10:55 | <juub> Ah, indeed.
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| 10:55 | That is a good point.
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| 10:55 | <dro> juub: hardwire it lol
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| 10:55 | <_UsUrPeR_> I would hardwire it. Save money :)
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| 10:55 | <juub> I believe I have a spare wireless router kicking around too.
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| 10:55 | Well...
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| 10:55 | hardwire means giving up my hardwire :P
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| 10:55 | Different apartments...
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| 10:56 | <dro> routers are super cheap
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| 10:56 | <juub> Especially the one collecting dust on my electronics bench.
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| 10:56 | <_UsUrPeR_> bridges are where the money s at though. wireless N bridge will cost some $$$
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| 10:57 | <dro> even a wireless n router is going to be $70 or higher probably
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| 10:57 | <juub> Well, with projects like OpenWRT, turning my spare wireless router into an accesspoint should serve the same purpose as what dro illustrated.
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| 10:58 | <dro> bridges and access points are different
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| 10:58 | <juub> I'm aware.
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| 10:58 | <dro> you can't put a wireless card in the ltsp client, well you can but it won't connect wirelessly....it will fail to boot
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| 10:58 | but if you can convert your router into a bridge....that would be cool
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| 10:59 | <juub> I was, perhaps erroneously, concluding that the point of the bridge was getting the connection into the local wired port.
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| 10:59 | <dro> juub: that is correct
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| 11:00 | <juub> Right, so what I"m proposing with the spare wireless router should work... since the wireless router has wired ports. LTSP -> wired port on spare router -> spare router acting as access point connecting to main router...
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| 11:00 | or maybe I mean bridge instead of access point...
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| 11:00 | * juub shrugs | |
| 11:00 | <juub> I should have been asleep several hours ago.
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| 11:02 | <_UsUrPeR_> juub: though this still requires you to consider true HD content's bandwidth requirements
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| 11:02 | <juub> _UsUrPeR_: yup
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| 11:03 | <_UsUrPeR_> if you were to, say, put a blu-ray reader on your server in order to play content on your TV, attempting to do that wirelessly would cause quite a lot of headaches
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| 11:03 | <juub> _UsUrPeR_: I'm sure.
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| 11:03 | <_UsUrPeR_> the same goes for 720p encoded xvid/divx content
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| 11:03 | <juub> I was planning on (thinking of) putting a blu-ray player in the client.
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| 11:04 | <juub> What about doing some nasty compression/decompression, and just ensuring audio syncs? Or would simply displaying the images be enough of a workout for the CPU?
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| 11:04 | <_UsUrPeR_> so at this point, when considering the complexities of an LTSP environment, compared to just throwing a hard drive in the HTPC, which would you go with?
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| 11:05 | * ogra would still go with mythbuntu ;) | |
| 11:05 | <ogra> they use compressed transport
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| 11:06 | <juub> _UsUrPeR_: complexities shmonplexities, it still sounds fun.
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| 11:06 | <_UsUrPeR_> well if that's the case, carry on. You'll have a blast :)
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| 11:06 | <juub> Especially if it reduces the client build by a few hundred dollars.
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| 11:07 | Besides, I never said I /was/ doing an LTSP-HTPC build, I asked if anyone was aware of an existing project.
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| 11:07 | <_UsUrPeR_> true
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| 11:07 | * _UsUrPeR_ points towards mythbuntu | |
| 11:09 | <juub> Based on my limited understanding of LTSP, I'm thinking something like Tinycorelinux is better suitted for it.
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| 11:09 | <ogra> i doubt anyone integrated LTSP into it
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| 11:10 | LTSP as it is since five years needs deep distro integration
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| 11:10 | only ubuntu, debian, fedora and gentoo have that yet ... and there is the opensuse kiwi fork
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| 11:11 | * juub nods | |
| 11:11 | <juub> Yeah, I definitely need to read up on LTSP.
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| 11:12 | Well explained in the upstream manual, I presume.
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| 11:12 | <ogra> yeah, the one from the topic
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| 11:13 | <juub> Aye, also pointed to through ltsp.org
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| 11:13 | well, the documentation link (eventually)
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| 11:15 | Ooh, I bet this would be a good place to ask. Do you gentlemen know of any good retailers for the Mini-ITX form factor (aside from newegg/tigerdirect, and USA based)?
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| 11:17 | <ogra> disklessworkstations.com ?
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| 11:17 | <juub> I'll take a look, thanks.
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| 11:17 | <_UsUrPeR_> juub: typically most people in here will be purchasing standalone clients. http://www.disklessworkstations.com (which I am affiliated with) sells full clients, but not individual hardware
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| 11:20 | <juub> Your cases look so much nicer than what I've found elsewhere :\
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| 11:26 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> juub: glad you like them :)
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| 11:32 | <dro> i love those workstations
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| 11:32 | my stubborn boss just won't buy them
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| 11:32 | lol
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| 11:33 | <ogra> did you tell him he actively supports the software development through buying them ?
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| 11:34 | thats a good way to give back to the coders ;)
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| 11:37 | <dro> ogra: yes but he's all about the bottom dollar
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| 11:38 | <ogra> not a good citizen then :)
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| 11:38 | <johnny> the bottom dollar is better ltsp..
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| 11:38 | err better ltsp is better for the bottom dollar rather
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| 11:38 | <dro> he had a customer with a low budget, sold them wyse clients, with 1 esx server to hold 2 windows terminal servers
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| 11:38 | <ogra> ++
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| 11:39 | <dro> trust me.....i kicked him more than a few times
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| 11:39 | but we also stumbled across those thin clients after he already quoted the wyse....next time around we're going to look at disklessworkstations
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| 12:33 | <mhterres> hello everybody
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| 12:33 | where can I get LTSP Build Environment (LBE) ?
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| 12:33 | <johnny> i don't even know what it is
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| 12:33 | <jammcq> hey marcelo
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| 12:33 | <johnny> is it some product i've never heard of?
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| 12:33 | <jammcq> LBE is from LTSP-4.2
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| 12:34 | <mhterres> hey jammcq
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| 12:35 | I need to update an old LTSP 4.2 installation with a kernel that supports atom TCs with realtek 8111/8168B NICs
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| 12:36 | Hey Jim, everything works fine now that you change IP in your fw ?
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| 12:36 | <jammcq> mhterres: yep :)
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> shawnp0wers: got any luck with those 32MB ram clients yet?
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| 12:40 | <johnny> lol
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| 12:40 | <shawnp0wers> no, I actually had total system failure yesterday, and was here until 10PM
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| 12:40 | itwas...
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| 12:40 | odd
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| 12:41 | * alkisg is curious because we also have a lot of those here :) | |
| 12:41 | <shawnp0wers> so I haven' tried yet
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| 12:44 | <johnny> alkisg, if you were able to get ubuntu or debian with a tinier libc and then compiled a custom kernel, you might be able to accomplish it..
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| 12:45 | of course.. that would also depend on ldm and ltspfs compiling under something that isn't glibc
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| 12:45 | <alkisg> johnny: well, that's why I'm waiting to see how shawnp0wers fares :D
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| 12:46 | * alkisg is calling ltsp-build-client --fat-client for the 20th time today... :( | |
| 12:47 | <shawnp0wers> alkisg: I expect to fail, sadly.
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| 12:48 | <alkisg> Yeah the only distro I was able to run in those PCs was delilinux... maybe an X -query on top of that would be possible
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| 12:49 | <shawnp0wers> That's how I got my old PowerMac 5500s to work. Installed a minimal yellowdog install, then just has X -query to the server.
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| 12:50 | I might try that, but I'll have to get a simple distro that will boot via etherboot
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| 12:50 | in fact, maybe that's the way to go
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| 12:50 | of course, they won't get LDM will they?
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| 12:50 | * shawnp0wers will have to explore that option | |
| 12:50 | <shawnp0wers> maybe thinstation
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| 12:51 | perhaps it will allow a direct-to-X -query thing
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| 12:51 | then set up the Ubuntu server to accept XDMC requests...
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| 12:55 | <waranha> my workstations work normally by PXE mode, but the workstations in FLOPPY mode not load the LDM. Can someone help me ?
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| 13:02 | <shawnp0wers> waranha: You mean like, etherboot floppies?
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| 13:02 | <shawnp0wers> are you using gPXE?
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| 13:05 | <vagrantc> CAN-o-SPAM_: boot camp, eh? :)
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| 13:05 | <waranha> I get rom's of rom-o-matic and save a image file to floppy disk (zdsk).. My last version of ltsp (4) already working with the floppy disk
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| 13:05 | <jammcq> vagrantc: hey, how's it going?
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| 13:05 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> vagrantc: as in boot your thin client, and boot your sys admin skills w/ LTSP into great shape :)
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| 13:06 | perhaps it should have been "Dual Boot Camp" haha
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| 13:07 | <vagrantc> jammcq: hi!
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| 13:07 | CAN-o-SPAM_: heh
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| 13:08 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> vagrantc: if you can come, please feel free
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| 13:08 | <vagrantc> i should make a more formal proposal to piggyback an ltsp hackfest before/after debconf in july and/or august...
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| 13:09 | <jammcq> vagrantc: there's already a debian-edu workshop just before debconf
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| 13:09 | but... scotty and I will have just gotten back from brazil. it'll be very difficult for either of us to be there.
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| 13:09 | <vagrantc> ouch
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| 13:09 | jammcq: when's that?
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| 13:09 | <jammcq> although it's not exactly a big deal if I'm not at a hackfest. I'm sure the same amount of hacking would happen anyway
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| 13:10 | FISL-11 is July 21-24, but we usually stay a few extra days, so we wouldn't be back until around 28th or 29th
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| 13:10 | and debconf is Aug 1-7
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| 13:10 | I'm kinda bummed, I was hoping to make debconf this year
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| 13:11 | <vagrantc> jammcq: couldn't sneak in something the 2nd week of august?
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| 13:11 | <Gadi> no way we hack in NY without Jim and Scotty
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| 13:11 | <jammcq> it'll be tough, but I'll see if I can do something
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| 13:11 | <Gadi> u know how long Ive waited for this?
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| 13:12 | :)
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| 13:12 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 13:12 | <jammcq> but getting scotty would be even trickier
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| 13:12 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> NY?!?! I'm pulling for Michigan!!!! Lets go great lakes
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| 13:12 | <vagrantc> jammcq: not if we concoct a master plan?
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| 13:12 | <Gadi> we can just tell him its winnipeg
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| 13:12 | <vagrantc> CAN-o-SPAM_: well, the debian conference is in nyc, so i'll be there no matter what
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| 13:12 | <Gadi> and keep him indoors
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| 13:12 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> ah i see
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| 13:13 | <vagrantc> like to piggyback conferences to pull extra momentum
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| 13:13 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> jammcq: things are looking good for FISL for me this year ... i mean, theres no wedding so thats a plus :)
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| 13:13 | * vagrantc keeps forgetting about FISL | |
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| 13:14 | <jammcq> CAN-o-SPAM_: awesome. maybe you can drag your father along too
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| 13:14 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> jammcq: we'd better start pushing it now then ;)
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| 13:14 | <jammcq> vagrantc: hmm, "master plan".... I like the sound of that
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| 13:15 | <vagrantc> i haven't seen y'all since august 2008
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| 13:15 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> Gadi: hows the little one doing?
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| 13:15 | <Gadi> thank God - just had his 3-month-old checkup
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| 13:16 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> i think that translates into good? and if so, good!
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| 13:16 | <Gadi> thank you for asking
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| 13:16 | :)
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| 13:16 | yeah
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| 13:16 | now he's impervious to polio
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| 13:16 | :)
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| 13:16 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> thats a +
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| 13:16 | <jammcq> no polio... coolio
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| 13:17 | <CAN-o-SPAM_> heh
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| 13:17 | <alkisg> waranha: did you download the gpxe floppy or the etherboot floppy?
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| 13:19 | vagrantc: http://ltsp.pastebin.com/m2c895f7f - it works fine as much as I can tell (I'm having problems with the fat client plugin so I've yet to see ltsp-build-client finish properly)
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| 13:21 | <vagrantc> alkisg: looks good to me :)
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| 13:21 | alkisg: i can test it out tomorrow
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| 13:22 | <alkisg> vagrantc: sure, thanks, and if you could even commit it you'd save me from looking at my logs for the proper bzr commands :)
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| 13:23 | (I also removed the special check from 090-clean-package-cache)
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| 13:36 | <vagrantc> alkisg: so, as i was saying...
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| 13:37 | alkisg: i'd be happy to see more commits from you, so i hope you'll learn the appropriate commands :)
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> Uh, ok, I'll wait for your feedback tomorrow and commit then :)
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| 13:38 | * alkisg sighs and searches his bzr logs... :-/ | |
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| 14:17 | <jelly-bean1> ok
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| 14:17 | alkisg i think it was u
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| 14:17 | <jelly-bean1> who said to com back after i figured out rdp rdesktop boot with ltsp
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| 14:17 | using lts.conf
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| 14:17 | and i did that
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| 14:17 | but now i want to give the users a choice to boot windows (via) or linux (via ubuntu ltsp thin client)
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| 14:17 | whats the best way to do that?
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| 14:20 | <alkisg> jelly-bean1: I don't think I was involved in any rdesktop conversations recently... Anyway, a way to do it is to put SCREEN_07=ldm and SCREEN_08=rdesktop
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| 14:20 | The users will be able to switch with alt+ctrl+f7/f8
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| 14:22 | <jelly-bean1> ah ok
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| 14:22 | i was thinking that too actually
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| 14:22 | sweet
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| 14:23 | windows server 2008 r2 is supposed to support using aero glass effects over rdp
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| 14:25 | <stgraber> let's see if I got that nbd-proxy thing to work as I want ;)
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| 14:26 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 14:28 | <pem725> any hints on troubleshooting tftp problems? my thin clients no longer boot and get timed out at TFTP. Everything worked great for months.
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| 14:45 | <Gadi> pem725: do you have another dhcp network on that subnet somehwere now?
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| 14:57 | <pem725> Gadi, no there are no other dhcp servers to my knowledge.
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| 14:58 | in fact, the dhcp addresses are being assigned with no problem.
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| 14:59 | my errors are after the addresses are assigned and the client searches for the TFTP server.
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| 14:59 | any hints?
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| 15:00 | <Gadi> pem725: well, they are assigned, but not necessarily by the right dhcp server (if there are others)
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| 15:01 | <pem725> true, but I am getting the addresses from my dhcp.conf file.
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| 15:01 | <Gadi> basically, either:
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| 15:01 | <pem725> I use static ip's
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| 15:01 | <Gadi> ah
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| 15:01 | did you happen to uninstall openbsd-inetd?
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| 15:01 | <pem725> good question though.
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| 15:01 | nope
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| 15:01 | <Gadi> or install xinetd by accident?
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| 15:01 | <pem725> it is still installed.
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| 15:01 | at least to the best of my knowledge.
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| 15:01 | <pem725> the init.d file is still in place.
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| 15:01 | <Gadi> dpkg -l|grep inetd
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| 15:01 | what comes up?
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| 15:02 | <pem725> I get openbsd-inetd and update-inetd both installed.
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| 15:02 | <Gadi> no xinetd, right?
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| 15:02 | <pem725> nope
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| 15:02 | <Gadi> how about: sudo netstat -anp|grep :2000
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| 15:03 | oops
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| 15:03 | I mean
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| 15:03 | sudo netstat -anp|grep :69
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| 15:03 | <pem725> udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:* 14703/inetd
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| 15:03 | strange, huh?
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| 15:03 | <Gadi> looks good
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| 15:03 | <pem725> everything seems fine.
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| 15:03 | yeah.
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| 15:03 | <jelly-bean1> does ltsp thin client run ANYTHING on the local machine? e.g. using a ramdisk or something? and can i control which apps get run locally vs on the server (consequently causing load on the server)
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| 15:04 | <Gadi> jelly-bean1: look at LOCAL_APPS
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| 15:04 | in the docs
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| 15:04 | pem725: grep next-server /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 15:05 | <pem725> commented out line.
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| 15:05 | so no next-server.
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| 15:05 | should I have one?
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| 15:05 | <Gadi> try making that the ltsp server
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| 15:05 | and restart dhcp3-server
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| 15:05 | next-server == the tftp server
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| 15:07 | <pem725> OK, I'm giving it a go..
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| 15:07 | <Gadi> at various points in time, dhcp3-server went through phases of using the dhcp server address for next server by default or leaving it empty
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| 15:07 | so, in some iterations you needed to specify and in some you didnt
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| 15:08 | they couldnt quite make up their minds
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| 15:08 | :)
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| 15:08 | <pem725> awesome!
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| 15:08 | it works now.
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| 15:08 | <Gadi> cool
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| 15:08 | <pem725> that is very strange.
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| 15:08 | I really appreciate your hep.
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| 15:08 | help that is...
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| 15:09 | <Gadi> I think it is commented out by default when we ship ltsp as one less line someone needs to modify
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| 15:09 | but then, dhcp3-server decides that it wants you to be explicit again
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| 15:09 | :)
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| 15:09 | <pem725> thanks again.
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| 15:09 | <Gadi> np
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| 15:09 | <pem725> I will keep it explicit from now on.
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> stgraber: have you talked to nbd upstream about the nbd-proxy stuff?
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| 15:27 | stgraber: might be good to get it integrated
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| 15:27 | stgraber: i'm also thinking, to avoid namespace collisions in binaries, we might want to call it ltsp-nbd-proxy
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| 15:41 | <stgraber> vagrantc: well, I haven't heard of upstream planning to work on a nbd-proxy, so I don't think we have to worry about a namespace collision here, also, I plan to make nbd-proxy a separate source package at some point as it's not really ltsp-only
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| 15:41 | <Gadi> stgraber: while ur messing with nbd server detection stuff....
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| 15:41 | <vagrantc> stgraber: all the more reason to not have namespace collisions
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| 15:41 | <Gadi> what do you think about having the initramfs write the nbd server to a file in rootfs space and having ltsp_config source that file?
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| 15:42 | would wliminate all the greps and ps calls and such
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| 15:42 | <vagrantc> stgraber: but i am fairly certain Yoe would at least be interested in the nbd-proxy and what issues it works around.
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| 15:42 | <stgraber> Gadi: that's a very very good idea actually ;)
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| 15:42 | <Gadi> it happens from time to time ;)
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| 15:42 | <jelly-bean1> Gadi: how can i configure the thin clients to run firefox locally all the time instaed of having to type ltsp-localapps firefox
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| 15:42 | i have to update their gnome icon shortcuts?
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| 15:43 | or is there an easier way
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| 15:43 | <Gadi> LOCAL_APPS_MENU=True
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| 15:43 | <jelly-bean1> like symlinking from the chroot usr/bin
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| 15:43 | <vagrantc> Gadi: it's slightly harder to implement for systems that are not read-write...
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| 15:43 | <jelly-bean1> oh
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| 15:43 | <vagrantc> Gadi: though we could handle some of that in initramfs too
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| 15:43 | i.e. create a read-writeable space
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| 15:44 | <Gadi> vagrantc: well, the "ps" stuff can still be in there for crippled systems ;)
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| 15:44 | <stgraber> vagrantc: I'd write this file in ltsp_nbd and the old code will only be used when that file doesn't exist
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| 15:44 | <Gadi> thats why I asked a few weeks ago whether anyone but ubuntu uses nbd
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| 15:45 | <vagrantc> stgraber: fair enough
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| 15:45 | <Gadi> right
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| 15:45 | <vagrantc> Gadi: there's support in debian and fedora, but not enabled by default
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| 15:45 | <Gadi> just as I imagines
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| 15:45 | *imagined
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| 15:45 | right
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| 15:45 | we can always catch things with a slower but working method
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| 15:45 | while having another method that speeds things up
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| 15:46 | <vagrantc> but i actually like the idea of writing up some code to enable a writeable space in initramfs...
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| 15:46 | <Gadi> the trick is writing it somewhere in rootfs space that is not mounted over
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| 15:46 | <vagrantc> could just make /etc/ltsp/* writeable, copying over whatever's there.
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| 15:47 | <Gadi> even in ubuntu, normal places like /var/run/ and such will have a tmpfs mounted over it during init (i think)
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| 15:47 | <vagrantc> if it's just for configuration stuff
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| 15:47 | <Gadi> right
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| 15:47 | /etc/ltsp/ltsp_config
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| 15:47 | and have ltsp_config source it
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| 15:47 | <stgraber> /var would make a lot more sense for variable/cached data ;)
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| 15:48 | <Gadi> I agree
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| 15:48 | but, /var/run will become a mountpoint, no?
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| 15:48 | <stgraber> yes, but not /var/cache
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| 15:48 | <Gadi> perfect
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| 15:48 | /var/cache/ltsp_config
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| 15:50 | <jelly-bean1> what form to i have to specify to get lts.conf settings per mac address [00:21:91:90:b7:89] or [00219190b789] or soemthing else?
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| 15:50 | <Gadi> the former
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| 15:52 | <vagrantc> Gadi: /var/cache/ltsp/ltsp_config
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| 15:52 | Gadi: that will allow other /var/cache/ltsp/* if we ever come up with anything.
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| 17:12 | <stgraber> ok, current ltsp and ldm are in a usable state
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| 17:16 | <vagrantc> stgraber: got a couple more translations to commit
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| 17:21 | <stgraber> feel free, I'm not planning on tagging today as alkisg wanted to submit a fat client patch before tagging
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