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Channel log from 22 August 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:24 | <johnny> chupacabra, we're all ltsp tho..
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| 00:40 | <chupacabra> yup
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| 00:40 | We just palled around with the samba guy at linuxworld
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| 00:45 | <cyberorg> chupacabra, for someone from novell talk to jbrockmeier in #opensuse-project
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| 00:45 | hi johnny :)
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| 07:59 | <johntl> Hello, new person here. Have used K12ltsp at my former job for years, running it on FC and Centos. I have just recently set a new system up at my new job and it is Ubuntu 9.04 with the ltsp install. I have two problems I'm hoping to get help with..first, none of the thin clients will touch the internet if root is NOT physically logged into the server box. When root is logged into the server all is well, when I log it out, it seems no DNS
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| 07:59 | is available to the thin clients...make any sense to anyone?
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| 08:01 | <laga> there is no root user in ubuntu
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| 08:01 | how do you log in?
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| 08:01 | <johntl> I allowed a root login locally
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| 08:02 | by following directions found on the net
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| 08:27 | <alkisg> Does anyone have some opinion on http://drbl.sourceforge.net? I'd like to use it as a fat client solution and I'm looking for whatever negative stuff may be there that I'm not seeing...
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| 08:33 | <moldy> no experience with that, sorry. but while we're at it: can i use ltsp as a fat client solution? how much work is it?
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| 08:34 | <NeonLicht> It's supposed to be possible, moldy.
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| 08:35 | <moldy> hmm :)
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| 08:35 | that can mean alot of things ;)
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| 08:36 | <NeonLicht> I mean I think I've read that it's possible, but I have no idea how to do it or where I read about it.
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| 08:36 | <moldy> ok, thank you
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| 08:37 | <NeonLicht> Now that I remember, vagrantc told me I could do it using my thin clients when he was here and saw them.
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| 08:37 | They are powerful enough.
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| 08:38 | <moldy> my thin clients can run ubuntu fine as standalone computers, but i wonder how much work it is to set them up as diskless fat clients
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| 08:41 | <alkisg> moldy: the typical ltsp-based solution for fat clients is this: http://nubae.com/ltsp-linux-terminal-server-project-netbooted-fat-client-for-ubuntu-hardy-and-intrepid
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| 08:42 | Also newer ltsp versions support localapps
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| 08:42 | But I was looking at DRBL because if it does what I think it does, then there's no chroot involved, which would mean no administration overhead for the teachers
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| 08:45 | <moldy> alkisg: looks interesting, thank you
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| 08:47 | alkisg: so the rationale is that you just create a chroot with ubuntu-desktop and so on installed?
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| 08:47 | <alkisg> In nubae's script? Yes. In DRBL? no, the "server" os is used as it is.
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| 08:47 | <moldy> alkisg: yeah, i mean the script
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| 08:47 | sounds interesting
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| 12:37 | <nubae> alkisg, did u check out drbl?
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| 12:37 | <alkisg> nubae, yes
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| 12:37 | It does what I want, but in very broken ways
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| 12:37 | And it's a pain to setup
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| 12:38 | Instead of doing bind-mounts, it creates /etc in a tmpfs from a tarred version of the "server" /etc
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| 12:38 | <nubae> yeah it is
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| 12:38 | its why I abandoned it
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| 12:39 | still, might have some interesting features to incorporate
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> I think by doing what ltsp-client-setup does, I can the things I want with 1-2 simple scripts
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| 12:39 | No I don't think so. I think ltsp-client-setup is a better source for info.
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| 12:40 | <nubae> ok but that would be similar to my fat client script, maybe u wanna hack at that
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> The only thing I "took" from it is the NIS idea:
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| 12:40 | instead of sharing /etc/passwd over a really insecure nfs share, they are using nis
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| 12:40 | But I don't care about security so I don't know if that would be better.
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| 12:40 | <nubae> well I use ssh to transfer that
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| 12:41 | although its very hackish
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| 12:41 | but it works
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| 12:41 | <alkisg> LTSP is no secure either. Any client get boot from the server and get the ssh keys.
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| 12:41 | <nubae> yeah
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| 12:41 | <alkisg> What I'm thinking would be a lot different from your fat client script. It wouldn't involve ltsp at all, for one.
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| 12:42 | <nubae> ok, well once u have it, I'd love to take a look
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| 12:42 | <alkisg> I'd just put ltsp-client-setup in the server /etc/init.d, and share / with nfs
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| 12:42 | OK. I think the end result will worth the trouble, fat clients with no administration at all.
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| 16:26 | <user_> Hello, somenone here knows how to configure ltsp 5.0 to auto login ?
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| 16:27 | my lts.conf is here http://pastebin.com/mee1005d
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| 16:29 | the terminal gets boot ok..but stop in the ldm screen requesting me the user and passwd
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| 16:45 | <user_> no one can help me?
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| 16:46 | <Ryan52> user_: patience!
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| 16:47 | <user_> ok...I am sorry..
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| 16:47 | <Ryan52> I think you need to do LDM_AUTOLOGIN=true
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| 16:47 | (or something like that)
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| 16:48 | check the docs, there's some setting you need to turn on to enable autologin.
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| 16:51 | <user_> ok. thanks..I will search
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| 17:27 | <Ryan52> user_: got it figured out?
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| 17:28 | <user_> yes
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| 17:28 | LDM_AUTOLOGIN = True
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| 17:28 | I was missing this
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| 17:29 | now the auto login is ok
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| 17:29 | thanks
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| 17:29 | <Ryan52> okay, great, np.
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| 17:30 | <user_> but have another problem with nbd..some clients show me something like SQUAHFS ERROR while then are booting
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| 17:30 | any idea?
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| 17:32 | <Ryan52> no idea, sorry.
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| 17:36 | <user_> ok..
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| 19:46 | <vagrantc> stgraber: pressh ? :)
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| 20:04 | <stgraber> vagrantc: Couldn't find a better name for it :)
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| 20:04 | <vagrantc> stgraber: just curious what it's doing
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| 20:04 | <stgraber> vagrantc: we need that for a few customers who have password change dialog that connects directly to their directory before the SSH session is open
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| 20:05 | we can't run that afterwards because SSH login would be rejected
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| 20:06 | we might also use it for LTSP-Cluster as it'd allow us to change the SSH command line (with some more changes to ldm) and for example redirect the user to a different server depending on a few scripts
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| 20:06 | <stgraber> or make sure the server that was the least loaded when ldm was started is still the one you should use
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| 20:07 | that last use case is quite interesting because usually all our thin clients boot at 8am and are only used at around 9am. But as the loadbalancing request is made when ldm starts and not at login, you may be directed to an extremely loaded server.
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