IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 12 September 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:41 | <yure_> Hi! LTSP seems great to me for my sales team, but is there a guide how to config different apps there (like mail client and pidgin) for them on deployment?
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| 06:41 | on ubuntu that is
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| 07:28 | <zend> Hi, all. Help me, please... After reboot of the terminal server, thin clients can't log-in anymore :(
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| 07:28 | But... The problem is not with authentication
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| 07:30 | After entering the password i got the log-in screen again
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| 07:31 | <muppis> Did you reboot clients as well?
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| 07:31 | <zend> Yes, of course...
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| 07:32 | <muppis> Runned ltsp-update-sshkeys ?
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| 07:33 | <zend> Yes.
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| 07:33 | And ltsp-update-image too
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| 07:33 | After that
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| 07:33 | From auth.log:
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| 07:33 | Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3909]: Connection closed by 172.16.9.74 [preauth]
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| 07:33 | Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3911]: Connection closed by 172.16.9.74 [preauth]
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| 07:33 | Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3915]: pam_krb5(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname=user uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=xxx.office.lan
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| 07:33 | Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3913]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from 172.16.9.74 port 38204 ssh2
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| 07:33 | Sep 12 10:26:21 ltsp sshd[3913]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user user by (uid=0)
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| 07:33 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 groupadd[1535]: group added to /etc/group: name=sambashare, GID=998
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| 07:33 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 groupadd[1535]: group added to /etc/gshadow: name=sambashare
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| 07:33 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 groupadd[1535]: new group: name=sambashare, GID=998
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1543]: add 'user' to group 'adm'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1543]: add 'user' to shadow group 'adm'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1548]: add 'user' to group 'cdrom'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1548]: add 'user' to shadow group 'cdrom'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1553]: add 'user' to group 'dip'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1553]: add 'user' to shadow group 'dip'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1561]: add 'user' to group 'fuse'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1561]: add 'user' to shadow group 'fuse'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1569]: add 'user' to group 'lpadmin'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1569]: add 'user' to shadow group 'lpadmin'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1574]: add 'user' to group 'plugdev'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1574]: add 'user' to shadow group 'plugdev'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1579]: add 'user' to group 'sambashare'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1579]: add 'user' to shadow group 'sambashare'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1584]: add 'user' to group 'sudo'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1584]: add 'user' to shadow group 'sudo'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:20 ltsp74 usermod[1589]: add 'user' to group 'user'
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:22 ltsp sshd[4051]: subsystem request for sftp by user user
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| 07:34 | <muppis> Hold your horses. Paste to pastebin that long.
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| 07:34 | <zend> Sep 12 10:26:28 ltsp sshd[4051]: Received disconnect from 172.16.9.74: 11: disconnected by user
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| 07:34 | Sep 12 10:26:28 ltsp sshd[3913]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user user
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| 07:34 | All is ok :(
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| 07:34 | And any errors in syslog
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| 07:34 | I am using Ubuntu
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| 07:34 | Sorry.
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| 07:36 | <muppis> pam_krb5(sshd:auth): authentication failure; -- That's the problem. Can you login at server as this user?
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| 07:36 | Locally.
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| 07:36 | <zend> I have two authenticating types
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| 07:37 | LDAP and local users
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| 07:37 | At this moment i trying to log-in as local user
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| 07:37 | " Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from"
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| 07:39 | <muppis> Open root shell to client and try to login to the server with ssh from there.
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| 07:43 | <zend> No problem with this.
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| 07:43 | Logged as AD user from thin client's console to LTSP server
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| 07:43 | By ssh.
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| 07:43 | As local (on ltsp) users can log-in too.
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| 07:45 | <muppis> Then problem is it can't start selected GUI for that user. Backup users home dir and recreate empty one with proper permissions so you see is there any glitch in settings.
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| 07:46 | <zend> One moment...
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| 07:50 | I just created a new empty user, and, unfortunately, any changes
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| 07:51 | <muppis> !gnome-failsafe
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| 07:51 | <ltsp> Error: "gnome-failsafe" is not a valid command.
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| 07:51 | <muppis> !gnome
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| 07:51 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'gnome', but I do know about these similar topics: 'gnome-wm', 'gnome-panel', 'gnome-shell', 'gnome-classic', 'lock-gnome3', 'gnome-fallback'
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| 07:51 | <muppis> !gnome-fallback
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| 07:51 | <ltsp> gnome-fallback: Unity, compiz etc are sometimes slow or buggy. To select gnome-fallback as your default session, install the gnome-session-fallback package, and put this in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback"
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| 07:51 | <muppis> Tried that one?
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| 07:52 | <zend> I am using xfce and ldm :-)
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| 07:52 | Not gnome.
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| 07:53 | In syslog i have an errors: Sep 12 10:49:23 ltsp74 kernel: [ 86.162922] nbd9: unknown partition table
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| 07:53 | Sep 12 10:49:23 ltsp74 kernel: [ 86.168067] block nbd9: NBD_DISCONNECT
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| 07:53 | Sep 12 10:49:23 ltsp74 kernel: [ 86.169509] block nbd9: Receive control failed (result -32)
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| 07:53 | Sep 12 10:49:23 ltsp74 kernel: [ 86.169565] block nbd9: queue cleared
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| 07:53 | It is normal?
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| 07:55 | the nbd-server is running.
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| 07:56 | <muppis> First one is normal and can be ignored, but I'm not sure about rest. I think no.
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| 07:59 | I'm little bit out of suggestions now. Sorry.
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| 08:00 | <zend> :-) Thank you!
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| 08:00 | <muppis> Be welcome.
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| 08:57 | <zend> Still can't solve my problem :'(
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| 09:37 | <rickogden> hey, are there any command line tools for listing booted up clients and logged in users (sort of like Epoptes does)?
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| 09:45 | <administrateur> bonjour
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| 09:45 | il y a quelqu'un?
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| 09:58 | <vilas> hi
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| 09:59 | i want to take remote desktop of ltsp client ? How can I do this ?
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| 10:01 | I tried "xrdp" but it ask userner and password, when I typed username and password it dispay the error that "login failed"
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| 10:15 | <workingcats> rickogden, if you use ssh for the clients' home dir or anything like that then "who" should show logged in users
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| 10:15 | vilas, try the clients' local root password. not sure but that might work
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| 10:19 | <vilas> I can login through ssh as a "root" user remotly and then "su - <username>"
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| 10:21 | but I want to take whole desktop remotly
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| 10:22 | because of user have some issue in GUI mode or some time they want to help
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| 10:22 | <workingcats> try entering root&password in xrdp...
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| 10:23 | <vilas> yes root&password work but it's give gui terminal
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| 10:25 | when i search in deeply i found that username is showing /etc/passwd file but in /etc/shadow file username is not showing there
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| 10:25 | there fore login is failed
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| 10:26 | <workingcats> because the clients log on via network on the server
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| 10:26 | are you sure xrdp can even do what you want?
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| 10:26 | <vilas> yes correct
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| 10:26 | <workingcats> some such tools can only open new sessions
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| 10:27 | but if you're using thin clients that shouldnt even be necessary i dont think
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| 10:28 | <vilas> there are one tools given for thin clients "Epoptes"
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| 10:28 | this is the best tools
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| 10:28 | we can help user remotly
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| 10:29 | <workingcats> so why not use that?
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| 10:29 | <vilas> but this tool sometime work and sometime not works
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| 10:29 | currently i m using this tools
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| 10:30 | <workingcats> i would try to figure out how to make epoptes work reliably
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| 10:30 | or look whatever epoptes uses for remote control, and directly try that
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| 10:30 | <vilas> i want to alternet for this tool
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| 10:31 | <workingcats> don't know i'm afraid
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| 10:31 | <vilas> why ?
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| 10:31 | <workingcats> hm?
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| 10:31 | i dont know alternatives
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| 10:32 | <vilas> ohhh
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| 10:32 | <workingcats> but if you like epoptes i would suggest trying to fix it. your decision ofc :)
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| 10:33 | <vilas> okey, i will try to fix it
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| 12:06 | <zend> Here is my problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcsnQcuKxBE
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| 12:06 | As i see that :)
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| 12:12 | <zend> Syslog messages: http://pastebin.com/uuMnMHCH
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| 12:14 | Xorg.log from thin client: http://pastebin.com/xp5rUZ4H
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| 12:16 | ldm is not starting?
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| 12:17 | Look... If i trying to start ldm from console, i see the errors:
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| 12:17 | (process:2555): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion `string != NULL' failed
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| 12:17 | No such file or directory: No such file or directory
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| 12:17 | date: invalid date `+%s'
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| 12:17 | /usr/share/ldm/ldm-script: 2: [: Illegal number:
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| 12:17 | bs=1024, sz=1200889856 bytes
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| 12:20 | <vilas> zend - in ltsp chroot - check your tmp folder permission - it should be drwxrwxrwt
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| 12:21 | <zend> Yes, permissions is 777
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| 12:23 | <vilas> not 777 - it should be 1777
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| 12:23 | sticky bit
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| 12:23 | <zend> Yes, bit tmp is set.
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| 12:23 | drwxrwxrwt
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| 12:30 | <zend> On ltsp client i see that directory "ltsp-localapps-user-nQy5QR" appears, but disappears after a few seconds (when I see a black screen)
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| 12:30 | In tmp directory
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| 12:30 | On thin client
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| 12:31 | Trying to disable local apps...
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| 13:06 | No
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| 13:06 | Disabling local apps does not help me
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| 13:35 | <zend> Strange, but with root account i can log-in and all work fine
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| 13:35 | but which permissions is unsufficient...
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| 13:47 | <matthias_android> I ran apt-get dist-upgrade in chroot. And now i get always an error with the kernel when im installing software via apt-get. I already ran apt-get install -f but still the same issue. The second thing are java applets in firefox on fat clients. Im using ubuntu 12.04lts ltsp
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| 16:13 | <zend> Guys
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| 16:13 | Can i build the xubuntu thin client image from the ubuntu ltsp server? :)
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| 16:52 | <AndChat|517376> zend normal and then install xubuntu-desktop into that image i think
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| 16:56 | <||cw> well, you normally don't install a desktop in the client image at all
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| 17:57 | <matthias_android> I ran apt-get dist-upgrade in chroot. And now i get always an error with the kernel when im installing software via apt-get. I already ran apt-get install -f but still the same issue. The second thing are java applets in firefox on fat clients. Im using ubuntu 12.04lts ltsp
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| 17:58 | <alkisg> Put the error in pastebin.com
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| 18:53 | <matthias_android> I will do tomorrow because im.not at school
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| 18:54 | <alkisg> matthias_android: it's very likely that the error is that grub couldn't be installed, try with ltsp-chroot -m apt-get dist-upgrade
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| 18:54 | A kernel upgrade triggers update-grub
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| 18:55 | <matthias_android> One more question. I installed dropbox and if i start dropbox on my client it wants to download dropbox again
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| 18:55 | <alkisg> Thin or fat?
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| 18:55 | <matthias_android> I will test. Fat clients
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| 18:55 | <alkisg> You need to install dropbox in the chroot
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| 18:56 | <matthias_android> I did so. I read the instruction on dropbox.com
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| 18:56 | Is there a way to do a full install?
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| 18:56 | <alkisg> Full install for dropbox? I don't know...
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| 18:57 | Better ask again when in school, to see error messages, installed files etc
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| 18:57 | <matthias_android> Ok im just a student who wants the school switch from winXP to linux
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| 18:59 | Last question. Are you familiar with Privoxy?
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| 18:59 | <alkisg> Nope
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| 19:00 | <matthias_android> I don't know, is ubuntu one preinstalled?
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| 19:25 | <bennabiy> alkisg: Would SSD in a server make for a better client experience?
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| 19:25 | No fatclients
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> Sure, 300 mb/sec are always better than 50 mb/sec :)
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| 19:26 | <bennabiy> thought so
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> Although mostly for the first program launch, if SSD contains only the system and not /home
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| 19:27 | <bennabiy> I am probably going to finish my changes and then upload them. I will send out a re-request for review once that is done... I have been very focused on other things this week.
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| 19:27 | <alkisg> Since caching would make the second run (of e.g. libreoffice by another user) mostly the same
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| 19:27 | <bennabiy> Yes. I have set up a couple of servers to do that. Offload /home and /tmp and a couple others to either RAM or a HDD
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| 19:28 | If on a gigabit lan, would the bottleneck of getting an image to a client be in the network, or the I/O of the HD?
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| 19:29 | <alkisg> First client => HD, second+ clients => network, very old clients => cpu too, for decompressing
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| 21:27 | <digitalirony> sup
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