IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 13 December 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:41 | <Guest76737> f i put out an prebuilt image from wwwrom-o-matic whats the best format to put it on a normal hdd,
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| 11:41 | and howto the howtos made me stuck
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| 11:43 | <muppis> Linux kernel (SYSLINUX/GRUB/LILO)...
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| 12:16 | <alkisg> !disable-compiz
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| 12:16 | <ltsp> alkisg: disable-compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 13:22 | <andygraybeal> gooodmorninigningisngis
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| 13:22 | two cups of coffee in so far.
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| 13:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> there you go. Part of a balanced HNNNNGHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh
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| 13:23 | <andygraybeal> ;))
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| 13:39 | <JerryNJ> anyone around who can help me fix my broken ltsp setup?
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| 13:40 | i built the box on a server w 2 nics and im confused as to how to get dhcp to work properly
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| 13:45 | <andygraybeal> have you edited the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file?
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| 13:46 | er.. is it ubuntu? and you've followed the instrucitons on ubuntu's website?
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| 13:47 | <JerryNJ> yep ubuntu
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| 13:48 | <andygraybeal> k, have a look at the config file /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf if you haven't already
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| 13:49 | here lemme find the page for it
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| 13:49 | this is the page i follow for thin and thick client setups: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT
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| 13:49 | it's bad ass :)
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| 13:50 | if you've already done that stuff, i'm afraid i can't help and youll have to wait for someone with more experience.
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| 13:50 | which, i think i have the least experience here, so that is easy to do.
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| 13:50 | <veloutin> have you tried to HNNNNNGGGN
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| 13:52 | <andygraybeal> :)
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| 13:53 | what is it with this word today?
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| 13:53 | i don't quite understand.
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| 13:53 | <mgariepy> good morning eveyrone
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| 13:53 | <andygraybeal> hi mgariepy
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| 13:53 | <veloutin> good morning mgariepy
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| 13:54 | andygraybeal: it's a meme
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| 13:54 | <andygraybeal> ah i must catch up!
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| 13:54 | damn dawkins.
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| 13:55 | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hnnnnnng
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| 13:57 | <andygraybeal> JerryNJ, hey, hows it going so far?
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| 13:58 | <dtrask> ready to check and see why epoptes is not letting me screenshare
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| 13:58 | <andygraybeal> heya dtrask :)
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| 13:58 | <dtrask> alkisg around?
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| 13:59 | hi!
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| 13:59 | <andygraybeal> haven't seen him
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| 13:59 | but i just got in about an hour ago
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| 13:59 | <dtrask> almost got everything working, but for some reason I cannot demo or monitor via epoptes
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| 14:00 | I'm guessing something is listening on that port, but having trouble finding out what
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| 14:00 | "something else"
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| 14:00 | Oh well
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| 14:00 | I'll try and catch him sometime today
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| 14:00 | <andygraybeal> he'll probably be in soon. he's always here.
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| 14:00 | <dtrask> thx ;-)
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| 14:02 | <alkisg> dtrask: hi
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| 14:02 | <dtrask> Hi! I'm thinking purging italc might do the trick?
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| 14:02 | <andygraybeal> the devil is speaking :)
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| 14:02 | <dtrask> LOL
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| 14:03 | <alkisg> :D
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| 14:03 | dtrask: let us share your screen so that I see which problems you're talking about
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| 14:03 | Go in the help menu
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| 14:03 | Then remote support (or assistance, don't remember the name), and put ip = alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 14:03 | <dtrask> I had stopped it from loading as a startup program, but then realized that italc client was still running on the TC's
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| 14:04 | hang on
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| 14:04 | <alkisg> Yeah it's Help → Remote support
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| 14:04 | <dtrask> i'm on?
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| 14:12 | <dtrask> they are rebooting
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| 14:12 | cool to watch
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| 14:12 | I ha ve them set to autologin
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| 14:13 | <alkisg> dtrask: the problem was that you put SERVER=localhost in the chroot, so the clients were trying to connect to themselves, not to the server
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| 14:13 | <andygraybeal> dtrask, aewsome, i can't wait til try out epoptes :)
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| 14:13 | <dtrask> this is waht I was talking about....now they don't really show up.
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| 14:13 | <alkisg> Reverting to the default, empty configuration should do it
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| 14:13 | <dtrask> I had to do that to get it to work
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| 14:13 | hang on
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| 14:14 | <alkisg> dtrask: wait
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| 14:14 | <dtrask> lemme log out and back in and then epoptes should work....or is there a better way?
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| 14:14 | <alkisg> Don't change anything yourself, wait for me to check what's going on
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| 14:14 | <dtrask> k
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| 14:14 | <alkisg> Are your clients logged in?
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| 14:14 | <dtrask> yes
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| 14:14 | <andygraybeal> alkisg, i am going to request that my business set aside money in our budget for ltsp :))))
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| 14:14 | <alkisg> OK, wait
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| 14:14 | <dtrask> four of them
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| 14:14 | <andygraybeal> we are going to go over the budget soon for this coming year.
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| 14:15 | ltsp, zentyal, and joomla
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| 14:17 | <alkisg> dtrask: from a client, run this command: x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 14:17 | <dtrask> as sudo?
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> andygraybeal: budget for ltsp, do you mean that you're planning to buy thin clients?
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| 14:18 | dtrask: no
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| 14:18 | <andygraybeal> donation to ltsp
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> Cool, guys at the next BTS will get a load of lobsters :D
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| 14:18 | <dtrask> done
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| 14:19 | <alkisg> dtrask: I didn't get any connection though
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| 14:19 | <andygraybeal> hah
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| 14:19 | <dtrask> I missed BTS this year as I was sick, but it's nearby my home
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| 14:19 | <alkisg> Did you see any warnings when you issued the command?
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| 14:19 | <dtrask> hang on
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| 14:20 | <alkisg> What I mean is, log in in a thin client, and then open gnome-terminal, and then run that command there
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| 14:20 | <dtrask> I did
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| 14:20 | * alkisg unfortunately won't be able to attend other BTSes, too far away from greece... | |
| 14:20 | <alkisg> What errors?
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| 14:21 | <dtrask> caught X11 error
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| 14:21 | <andygraybeal> maybe we could have a 'fund drive' for you?
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| 14:21 | <dtrask> BadAccess
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| 14:21 | <andygraybeal> alkisg, ^^
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| 14:21 | <alkisg> That'd be cool, andygraybeal :)
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| 14:21 | dtrask: ah, noshm:
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| 14:21 | x11vnc -noshm -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 14:21 | <dtrask> should I have used a disply variable
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| 14:21 | ok
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| 14:21 | hang on
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| 14:22 | ah better
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| 14:33 | <alkisg> dtrask: I'll need root access on the client to stop epoptes from running there
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| 14:34 | I'll put SCREEN_02=shell in lts.conf, and reboot it, ok?
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| 14:34 | <dtrask> yes
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| 14:37 | <alkisg> dtrask: when the client boots, press alt+ctrl+f2, and then type: service epoptes stop
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| 14:38 | <dtrask> K
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| 14:38 | <alkisg> Then alt+ctrl+f7 to switch back to X, and then x11vnc -noshm -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 14:38 | <dtrask> UNRECOGNIZED SERVICE
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| 14:38 | (NO IDEA WHY ALL CAPS)
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> It's the x11vnc malfunctions, ignore that :D
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| 14:39 | <dtrask> SO PROCEED EVEN THOUGH NOTHING WAS STOPPED?
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| 14:39 | <alkisg> run: ps aux|grep epoptes
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| 14:39 | and kill any process you see on the client there
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| 14:41 | <dtrask> her it goes
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| 14:41 | here
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> nice
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| 14:42 | let's start debugging now :)
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| 14:44 | The user session part runs fine, with screenshots and everything... let's see the system part
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| 15:05 | <JerryNJ> can one of you guys remote into my ltsp box and tell me what i am doing wrong w dhcp?
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| 15:06 | <Guest76737> @muppis: Linux kernel (SYSLINUX/GRUB/LILO)...
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| 15:07 | what you mean with that?
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| 15:07 | <muppis> Guest76737, take that option from rom-o-matic and put it in the grub.
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| 15:08 | <Guest76737> ok probably i would still think what you mean?
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| 15:08 | if you would not have told me:-D
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| 15:08 | <muppis> Then you can boot to ltsp client without actually have PXE booting.
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| 15:10 | <alkisg> dtrask: can you run this command from SCREEN_02 on the client? cp /tmp/epoptes-client /usr/sbin/epoptes-client
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| 15:11 | <dtrask> which one is screen 2?
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> dtrask: press alt+ctrl+f2 to switch to the console
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| 15:12 | On the thin client
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| 15:12 | <dtrask> oh....gotcha
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> Then run that command
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| 15:12 | <JerryNJ> alkisg: Ill take you up on that offer for help if you have a moment or two
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| 15:12 | <dtrask> leave this screen up for a sec
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| 15:12 | <JerryNJ> im really up sh*ts creek atm
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: I haven't offered any help :D :D
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| 15:13 | <dtrask> done
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| 15:13 | <JerryNJ> alkisg: could you help me out bit?
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| 15:14 | <alkisg> JerryNJ: not at the moment, I'm doing some debugging
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| 15:14 | dtrask: from screen_02 again, can you type: epoptes-client ?
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| 15:15 | ..and see if you get a certificate error?
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| 15:15 | <dtrask> hang on
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| 15:15 | <alkisg> (just epoptes-client, without the question mark)
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| 15:15 | <dtrask> yes...got an error....verify failed
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| 15:16 | <alkisg> That's the root of the problem, mismatched certificate, but I haven't yet figured out why... :(
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| 15:16 | <andygraybeal> JerryNJ, did you read that ubuntu page about that talks about nat'ing? it has the dhcp config on it.
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| 15:17 | <dtrask> ok...well this is simply a test machine...JerryNJ needs help more than I if you want to help him
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| 15:17 | <dtrask> I will load everything on to a test "Server" and then try it to see if things install better
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| 15:17 | (Server means a "real" server not this laptop)
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| 15:19 | let me know...I don't want to cut you off
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| 15:19 | if you are still doing something
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> dtrask: ok, and I'll try on an oneiric VM with the first chance I get, to see if there are any socat/openssl related problems there
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| 15:19 | <dtrask> cool
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| 15:19 | keep me posted...and thanks!
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> dtrask: np
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| 15:20 | <dtrask> can I close everything?
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| 15:23 | <alkisg> yup
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| 15:27 | <JerryNJ> im making progress
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| 15:27 | finally
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| 15:28 | need some help with tftp not working now if anyone has some time
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| 15:42 | <Hyperbyte> !ask | echo JerryNJ
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| 15:42 | <ltsp> JerryNJ ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 15:45 | <andygraybeal> JerryNJ, did you follow the ubuntu instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP - especially: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall & https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT/ -- i follow these instructions and i have no problems.
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| 15:46 | and i'm notoriously the idiot in the channel :)
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| 16:23 | <gvy> hi!
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| 16:26 | <Gadi> alkisg: ping
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| 16:27 | <alkisg> Heya Gadi
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| 16:27 | <Gadi> alkisg: do you remember off the top of your head the magic to set the bootprompt options for l-u-i?
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| 16:27 | (say, to override "quiet splash")
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| 16:28 | * Gadi would look it up but is looking for an excuse to say hi to alkisg | |
| 16:28 | <Gadi> :)
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| 16:28 | <alkisg> grep BOOT /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.conf
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| 16:28 | BOOTPROMPT_OPTIONS=${BOOTPROMPT_OPTIONS:-quiet splash nbd_proxy=false nocompcache}
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| 16:28 | + ltsp-update-image --force
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| 16:28 | <Gadi> there we go
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| 16:28 | <alkisg> Hehe, /me likes excuses like that :D
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| 16:28 | ...but continues shaving to avoid cutting himself :P
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| 16:29 | <gvy> (looking at log, alkisg and Gadi) folks, were nbdroot-related changes discussed a few weeks ago merged into ltsp-trunk? (I postponed my messing not to mess over others' messing then)
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| 16:29 | <alkisg> gvy, Yoe said he'd commit them this weekend
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| 16:29 | So you'd better wait until then, at least
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| 16:29 | If he does, then we'll probably change our code to match
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| 16:31 | <Gadi> ah, he accepted the new scriptie?
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| 16:31 | <gvy> alkisg, ah, thx
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| 16:31 | * Gadi has been out of the loop | |
| 16:31 | <gvy> the SOAPed one?
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| 16:31 | <alkisg> Gadi, I think he agrees it's a good approach, so only small bugs+fixes should stand in the way of commiting it
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| 16:31 | * gvy runs!!! | |
| 16:31 | <alkisg> Let's see, this next weekend
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| 16:32 | <Gadi> very good. seems we are inching closer to a goal
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| 16:32 | :)
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| 16:33 | <gvy> in Soviet Russia... :)
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| 16:33 | <alkisg> LTSP 6 will rock :D
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| 16:33 | <ogra_> not as much as LTSP 7 !
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| 16:34 | <gvy> well, being able to switch both booting methods (like nbd/nfs) and acces methods (like xdmcp/ldm) would rock but we rather skipped the big thing either over here :/
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| 16:34 | * gvy waves to ogra_ | |
| 16:34 | <ogra_> hey hey
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| 16:34 | <gvy> *access
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| 16:35 | but that innovative feature might have to be introduced in ltsp 7 ultimate, heh
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| 16:35 | <alkisg> Hey ogra. LTSP 5 rocked too, although I have to admin I've yet to understand "rock" as a verb :D
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| 16:35 | <ogra_> haha
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| 16:35 | <gvy> it's when something slams its guitar, like that
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| 16:35 | <ogra_> well, it was rocky :)
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| 16:37 | <andygraybeal> is there a place that we can read what changes are expected in LTSP 6?
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| 16:38 | * ogra_ wasnt even aware that there was a version bump planned | |
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| 16:43 | <Gadi> whoa whoa. read?
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| 16:44 | * Gadi thought we discouraged literacy | |
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