IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 24 September 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:37 | <ball> Are there any other thin client channels on Freenode?
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| 02:54 | I had a Wyse WinTerm fail today. When I went looking for a replacement I found out that my team has a drawer full of dead ones.
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| 02:55 | ...I hope other thin clients are more reliable (and generate less heat).
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| 10:22 | <Andreas7> Hello, anyone here that can help with a ltsp-cluster not getting correct appserver?
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| 14:45 | <Andreas7> I get "Bad request syntax ('getkey')" on ltsp-root server, thin client logs says "failed to get an IP from the load-balancer". What could be the problem?
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| 14:50 | <alkisg> Andreas7: not many people are online in weekends, if noone answers you might want to try weekdays or the mailing list
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| 14:51 | <Andreas7> ok, I'm in no hurry so I will wait till next week then, thanks
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| 16:04 | <neushorn> Hello
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| 16:05 | I am having some trouble with a thin client not booting
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| 16:06 | The point at which is hangs differs, but whenever the output seems to be useful, it is too long to fit on the screen
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| 16:06 | so I suppose I would have to view the logs
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| 16:06 | however, I can't find any way to log into the local machine to do so
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| 16:06 | Is there anyone who could help me with that?
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| 16:07 | <Hyperbyte> Hoi!
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| 16:07 | ;-)
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| 16:08 | Which distro/version?
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| 16:09 | <neushorn> It's ubuntu, though I am having some trouble finding exactly which version
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| 16:09 | <Hyperbyte> You don't know which version of Ubuntu you installed? =)
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| 16:10 | <neushorn> It wasn't me that installed it...
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| 16:10 | <Hyperbyte> Type lsb_release -a
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| 16:10 | Guides for simple things like this (finding version information) can easily be found on Google.
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| 16:11 | <neushorn> 10.04
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| 16:11 | <Hyperbyte> You could search for 'find out which ubuntu version' for example, first 20 versions deal with what you want. =)
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| 16:11 | !nbd-proxy
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| 16:11 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: nbd-proxy: Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 use a wrapper called nbd-proxy, which is causing networking problems for some people. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/589034. It's been disabled by default in 11.04, see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/1803
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| 16:12 | <Hyperbyte> !disable-nbd-proxy
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| 16:12 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: disable-nbd-proxy: To disable nbd-proxy on Ubuntu Lucid (10.04) and Maverick (10.10), follow the instructions in comment #13 in this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/589034
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| 16:12 | <neushorn> I got a bit stuck on uname, which didn't provide enough information - but you are right I should probably have looked at ubuntu specific answers and I would have found it without any problems
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| 16:12 | <Hyperbyte> I'm not telling you because I think you -should- have done differently, I'm telling you so you can more easily get help with Linux in the future. ;-)
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| 16:13 | <neushorn> Thanks
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| 16:13 | I'll have a look at that, thanks
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| 16:14 | <vagrantc> and there's always SCREEN_NN=shell in lts.conf, where NN is one of your available ttys (02 on ubuntu, 08 on debian)
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> So, do powerpcs make descent ltsp clients? :)
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| 16:15 | <neushorn> Does the fact that other clients are working, but that one is giving troubles still leave open the problem you are talking about, Hyperbyte?
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| 16:16 | vagrantc: I have been trying that, however, I had some problems with it - should that be done locally on the thin client or on the server?
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| 16:18 | <Hyperbyte> neushorn, out of curiousity, what environment are you using LTSP in?
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| 16:20 | <vagrantc> neushorn: if you're using NBD (which is ubuntu's default) that should be done on the server in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 16:20 | alkisg: i've seen it work ... not sure how decent they are
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| 16:21 | alkisg: it seems like the powerpc architecture is very ram hungry ...
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| 16:21 | <neushorn> Hyperbyte, environment as in social environment rather than software environment?
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| 16:22 | <alkisg> vagrantc: ouch... I hope his 256 RAM are enough
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| 16:22 | <neushorn> vagrantc: tried that without any result
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| 16:23 | <vagrantc> neushorn: SCREEN_*=shell only enables a shell at a certain point, perhaps it's failing before that point
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| 16:23 | <alkisg> neushorn: if you see the client hanging at random points, and you're using 10.04, the most probable cause is what Hyperbyte said
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| 16:23 | The next one would be to check your cabling
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| 16:24 | Do disable nbd-proxy to make sure that's not to blame (but it most probably is)
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| 16:24 | <Hyperbyte> neushorn, environment as... company, school..?
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| 16:26 | <neushorn> vagrantc: it usually hangs around "*Setting up ltsp client"
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| 16:26 | Hyperbyte: students' union
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| 16:27 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 16:27 | Where about are you located?
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| 16:28 | <neushorn> Utrecht
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| 16:29 | <Hyperbyte> Ahh
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| 16:29 | <- Capelle aan den IJssel (east of Rotterdam)
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| 16:29 | <vagrantc> neushorn: that's before the SCREEN_* get started
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| 16:33 | <neushorn> I always find it hard to translate the word "studentenvereniging" because the connotation is so different in English, and we're the ones the most different from the Dutch stereotype already
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| 16:35 | <vagrantc> we're pretty used to different here in #ltsp :)
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| 16:36 | <neushorn> good to hear :D
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| 16:38 | <Hyperbyte> =D
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| 16:42 | <neushorn> Thanks for your help guys, the client is fully working again now
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| 16:46 | <Hyperbyte> You're welcome! :) You're also free to stick around here and learn more about LTSP if you like. :)
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| 16:47 | <neushorn> Perhaps some other time, when I'm at home :)
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| 16:48 | Alright, cya!
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| 20:34 | <alkisg> vagrantc: could you give me a 2-minutes how-to about how to use xgettext to generate .pot files etc?
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| 20:40 | <vagrantc> alkisg: it would probably take me half an hour to figure it out, so probably not :)
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| 20:41 | <alkisg> Hehe I thought you used that to provide us that .po files :)
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| 20:41 | I managed to get a .pot file, but I don't know how to automatically generate .po files out of the .pot
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| 20:42 | <vagrantc> there are a few scripts in either ltsp-trunk or ldm-trunk that i us
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| 20:42 | use
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> I grepped for xgettext there, didn't see anything, and I thought you had them locally
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| 20:42 | <vagrantc> version controled scripts are like extended memory
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| 20:42 | <alkisg> Thanks, I'll look into them
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| 20:42 | <vagrantc> search for update-po
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| 20:42 | or something like that
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| 20:43 | <alkisg> Ah in the ldm source
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| 20:44 | regenerate-po
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| 20:44 | I was looking at ltsp-trunk
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| 20:44 | <vagrantc> i usually just symlink the two to avoid maintaining it in two places
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| 20:45 | which is kind of annoying if you don't know the magic
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| 20:45 | also, it can be helpful to delete the .pot before running ... it's kind of got some glitchy behavior
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| 20:45 | <alkisg> But what part puts new strings in .po files when the .pot template has been updated? Is that "make"?
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| 20:46 | generate_locale_list.py ?
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| 20:48 | <alkisg> Thanks anyway, I'll dig into those
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| 21:07 | <alkisg> Ah, found it
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| 21:07 | In the debian/po/Makefile, not upstream
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| 21:07 | msgmerge, mostly
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