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| 16:31 | <JerryT> Any ideas why we have no audio on the newer LTSP? We had an old version from Ubuntu 14 or so that worked fine but we were on 32bit and have moved to 64...
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| 16:32 | <alkisg> On the server or on the clients?
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| 16:41 | <JerryT> clients
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| 16:41 | <alkisg> Which CPU and which kernel?
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| 16:48 | <JerryT> CPU N2808
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| 16:49 | 4.4.0
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| 16:51 | <alkisg> HDMI sound?
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| 16:51 | You still use 14.04 instead of 16.04?
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| 16:52 | It sounds like your kernel doesn't support your chipset and you need a newer kernel, but gotta go now, later...
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| 16:55 | <JerryT> 16.04
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| 16:55 | We were on 14 and 32bit
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| 16:55 | Now we're 64bit/16.04
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| 16:56 | cya
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| 16:57 | <||cw> kernel occasionally drops drivers too. especially if it never was made to work right in x64
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| 16:59 | it's likely hdmi audio config, that can randomly turn itself off
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| 17:00 | <fiesh> JerryT: does your device have built-in audio as well as HDMI audio? It can also be an issue of which audio device is chosen by default, you can choose by setting a command line parameter to the kernel / the alsa module
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| 17:29 | <alkisg> JerryT: 16.04 is using kernel 4.10 currently, update your chroot with the newest hwe stack
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| 17:29 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
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| 17:29 | Also, check what others said about default audio output device
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| 17:39 | <JerryT> Ok, thank you
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| 18:08 | <JerryT> alkisg, did that and now the thinclient doesn't boot.
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| 18:15 | <alkisg> you probably did something wrong
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| 18:29 | <JerryT> Odd
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| 18:30 | I just used apt-get to install and then rebuilt the image
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| 18:30 | 2 commands, lol
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| 18:31 | <quinox> you need 3 if you update the kernels I think
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| 18:31 | ltsp-update-kernels
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| 18:31 | <JerryT> Ohhhhhh
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| 18:31 | True!
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| 18:31 | <alkisg> ltsp-update-image also calls ltsp-update-kernels
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| 18:32 | <JerryT> Oh
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| 18:32 | <alkisg> You'd need to remove the older kernel. And, install the newer xorg too
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| 18:32 | <JerryT> Well then we're still at 2
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| 18:32 | sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
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| 18:32 | then ltsp-update-image
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| 18:32 | <alkisg> You did that inside the chroot?
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| 18:32 | <JerryT> No
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| 18:33 | <alkisg> Are you using ltsp-pnp?
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| 18:33 | Erm... what's the output of sudo ltsp-info? Put it to pastebin
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| 18:36 | <JerryT> https://pastebin.com/8Yz5NNmA
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| 18:40 | <alkisg> JerryT: it looks like you're using ltsp-pnp
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| 18:40 | So, I suppose you ran ltsp-update-image -c /
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| 18:40 | What is the error message of the client, now that it doesn't boot?
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| 18:41 | <JerryT> Yah, ltsp-update-image --cleanup /
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| 18:42 | It stalls at:
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| 18:42 | Started Set console scheme.
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| 18:44 | <alkisg> I don't remember that message, type a couple more lines...
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| 18:44 | Do you see the client in epoptes?
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| 18:48 | <JerryT> Yes
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| 18:48 | <alkisg> OK, right click on it, open a terminal, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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| 18:48 | Xorg.0.log.old
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| 18:48 | Do you see xorg errors?
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| 18:49 | <JerryT> epoptes shows the screensaver running
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| 18:49 | But the actual thinclient doesn't display that.
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| 18:49 | Checking log now...
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| 18:51 | Last thing is complaining about the VMWare Mouse
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| 18:52 | <alkisg> JerryT: ok, then the client does boot and you just got bit by the "ghost second display" intel bug
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| 18:52 | <JerryT> Oh noes!
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| 18:52 | <alkisg> Right click open terminal from epoptes, type xrandr, pastebin the output
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| 18:52 | Do you see two monitors with modes there, e.g. eDP-1 etc?
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| 18:55 | <JerryT> It won't let me copy out of that terminal
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| 18:56 | <JerryT> but running xrandr made the desktop popup on the thin client
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| 18:57 | <JerryT> I have VGA-1 and DP-1 but VGA-1 is the only one with dimensions.
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| 18:57 | Also 2 HDMI too
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| 18:57 | But they don't have modes either
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| 18:59 | <alkisg> OK, try this then, in lts.conf:
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| 18:59 | XRANDR_COMMAND_0="xrandr"
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| 19:00 | Btw, to copy/paste from xterm, you select the text, go elsewhere, and press middle click
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| 19:00 | I.e. select is also "copy", and middle click is "paste"
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| 19:00 | Does sound work now?
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| 19:02 | <JerryT> Ok, thanks.
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| 19:02 | Checking now...
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| 19:08 | No, well it seems we do have local sounds from the OS but the browser and voip client have none.
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| 19:08 | Tested youtube and voip
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| 19:11 | <alkisg> Check the output devices from the sound applet
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| 19:11 | The default output device there. Or/also configure your voip client to use the correct device.
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| 19:13 | <JerryT> Yah, I think that might be where the problem lies. Is there a way to disable the onboard sound and just use the usb?
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| 19:14 | <alkisg> Sure, go to bios and disable it. Or, blacklist the module.
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| 19:18 | <JerryT> Yah, that's what I did. Just took it out at the bios.
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| 19:18 | Seemed the easiest.
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| 21:05 | <JerryT> Actually alkisg
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| 21:06 | It seems that the video is just an issue if we set FATCLIENT=False
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| 21:07 | Cause I had that commented out when troubleshooting. I put it back to True and the video is broke again.
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| 21:07 | xrandr doesn't do anything to fix it now.
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