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07:39 | <jeblesh> hi i need help when i do a chrootless image update i get the folowing userdel messeges
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07:39 | userdel: group melavim not removed because it has other members. userdel: group ofer not removed because it is not the primary group of user ofer
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07:40 | and so on ... how do i get the image builde to remove the users ? am traing to serve the /home/ from the server i dont whant it to build with any users ...
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12:24 | <markit> alkisg: hi, I've tested latest epoptes on 16.04 (Kubuntu) and I can confirm that broadcasting teacher video is broken (starts then crashes client with "unable to connect to host, Connection refused (111)"
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12:25 | googling someone suggest to add "-localhost no" on vnc server... if you can tell me in what script add that option I could try to patch epoptes
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14:11 | <alkisg> markit: where did you find the latest epoptes in 16.04?
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14:11 | Do you mean the old 0.5.10 epoptes? or 1.0?
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14:21 | <markit> alkisg: ops, old 0.5.10 from greek repos
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14:21 | <alkisg> markit: yup, that is using ifupdown, so you'd need to install it to make it run on boot
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14:22 | <markit> I thought that ifupdown was standard in 16.04
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14:22 | <alkisg> dpkg -l ifupdown
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14:22 | Is it?
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14:23 | E.g. lubuntu doesn't have it, afaik, it's using network manager
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14:23 | <markit> I'm not at school, I will check... so epoptes 0.5.10 + ifupdown (in chroot) will work, correct?
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14:24 | <alkisg> It should; otherwise it's a bug that I don't know about,
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14:24 | although, I don't really care about old version bugs; I'd only care for 1.0 bugs
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14:24 | <markit> ok, I will let you know, or test here in a VM but I will jump to 18.04
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14:25 | but at least 18.04 kubuntu was a mess with systemd resolver and netplan, AFAIR. You told me that systemdresolver is taken care by your config script, so I just have to get rid of netplan I guess. Network manager in Kubuntu is unable to manage Bond interfaces, so is not an option (and in any case I want to avoid teachers mess with connectivity)
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14:27 | <alkisg> markit: You told me that systemdresolver is taken care by your config script, so I just have to get rid of netplan I guess. ==> I said "ltsp doesn't configure anything"
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14:27 | So since ubuntu works, ltsp will work too
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14:27 | Now if you want to use dnsmasq for DNS, then you'd run ltsp-config dnsmasq --enable-dns, and that would disable systemd-resolved, and enable dnsmasq
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14:28 | Network manager in Kubuntu is unable to manage Bond interfaces, so is not an option => I'm sure that even if the GUI doesn't have the option, network manager still supports it with the correct configuration file
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14:29 | jeblesh: `getent group melavim` should only return the melavim user, not many users; you configured that wrong; but in any case, it's the group that is not deleted, not the user
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14:30 | <markit> alkisg: probably, but in the gui you still see the 2 interfaces and someone could try to configure / they show as unconfigured with warning message I don't recall
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14:30 | <alkisg> markit: that's just plain networking in ubuntu; not related to ltsp; whatever works for you
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14:30 | I told you how teachers here prefer it; if you have a different situation there, go for that one
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14:31 | Me, I want to know when they unplugged the network cable when they phone me "I don't have network"
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14:31 | I don't even use policykit to prevent them from editing network connections
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14:32 | <markit> alkisg: was just a rant about the "good old days" where everything was simple and in 2 files (interfaces and resolv.conf), now is a mess OMHO
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14:32 | <alkisg> Nah, for me it's much better now that they do have an icon that shows when they're connected and when not
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14:32 | And they can configure everything without text files, by a simple gui
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14:33 | But whatever works for you... you could also try to rant in #ubuntu, I guess, if you want to get it out of your system :)
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14:36 | <markit> well, in a server I was used to check interfaces/resolv.conf, now just to figure out where is the right config is not so trivial, but maybe I'm getting too old for this stuff :(
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14:38 | <alkisg> Right click > properties
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14:38 | It shows ip, dns, everything
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14:48 | <jeblesh_> alkising i need it setup that way so that when the user create a file its the metaplim group ownd file ...
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14:48 | for sum reason after that /home/ is not aveleble any more
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14:55 | on the client that is
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15:06 | now the login prossecc not working the clients stuck on a blak screen after the login
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15:12 | <jeblesh_> weard it got sorted and i hav no idear whay
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