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| 09:56 | <osmoe> Hi guys. I'm installing LTSP in a small virtual network which already has a router with DHCP. It seems LTSP comes with a DHCP function. How will this affect my routers DHCP? Can I just disable the LTSP DHCP and use the one in the router?
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| 11:26 | <championofcyrodi> osmoe: yes you can disable dhcp and use a different dhcp server.
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| 11:28 | i believe you want the packages, 'sudo apt-get install ltsp-server openssh-server tftpd-hpa nbd-server' and whatever dependencies show up. but consider building from the daily PPA.
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| 11:28 | or rather, deploying the built packages from that ppa
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| 15:35 | <callan> hi guys, i'm running ltsp on ubuntu with lxde. when i insert a USB stick into the server, it mounts for the server, but i get "not authorized" errors on each client from pcmanfm (i think)
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| 15:37 | how could i (1) fix the error and let users see the drive, and (2) hide the drive if I wanted to from the users
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| 15:41 | the error seems to simply be that users aren't authorized to see into the server's folder in /media
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| 19:07 | <awei> is there a way to sync the uid/gid from server to fat client?
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| 19:09 | for all the groups the user is a part of.
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| 19:48 | <awei> vagrantc: thx
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| 20:22 | <simervillefarm> I have been playing with ltsp for a few days now and I cannot get the ltsp-build-client command to work
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| 20:22 | it always fails with a chroot error
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| 20:23 | I have tried on several versions of ubuntu (14.04, 14.10 and 13.10) both i386 and amd64 on both real machines and virtualbox machines.
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| 20:24 | the actual error is "W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 mount -t proc proc /proc"
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| 20:45 | <awei> simervillefarm: so, the ltsp-build-client command itself fails?
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| 20:45 | or trying to chroot into the built image fails?
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| 20:46 | <simervillefarm> well it starts then it fails
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| 20:46 | hang on I will grab the log
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| 20:46 | root@backup:~# ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///media/cdrom/ --dist utopic I: Retrieving Release I: Retrieving Release.gpg I: Checking Release signature I: Valid Release signature (key id C5986B4F1257FFA86632CBA746181433FBB75451) I: Retrieving Packages I: Validating Packages I: Resolving dependencies of required packages... I: Resolving dependencies of base packages... I: Chosen extractor for .deb packages: dpkg-deb W: F
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| 20:46 | oh damn that looks like hell. Let me fix that
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| 20:46 | root@backup:~# ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///media/cdrom/ --dist utopic
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| 20:47 | I: Retrieving Release
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| 20:47 | I: Retrieving Release.gpg
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| 20:47 | <awei> and where's the failure error?
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| 20:47 | <simervillefarm> I: Checking Release signature
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| 20:47 | <awei> yup... got all those
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| 20:47 | <simervillefarm> okay I I was just trying to format it a little better so it was more readable :-)
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| 20:47 | <awei> that's fine. i'm following
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| 20:48 | i've been flailing around w/ LTSP myself, but i've managed to build a client and boot it
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| 20:48 | i don't use the --mirror argument though
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| 20:49 | what happens when you just do a ltsp-build-client all by itself?
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| 20:49 | <simervillefarm> I was just trying to use a local iso so I didn't beat the hell out of my bandwidth cap
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| 20:49 | <awei> yea, i hear u
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| 20:49 | <simervillefarm> I live VERY rual and bandwidth is NOT cheap
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| 20:49 | <awei> i see...
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| 20:51 | perhaps you could use --copy-package-lists --copy-sourceslist
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| 20:51 | <simervillefarm> so
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| 20:52 | ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///media/cdrom --dist utopic --copy-package-lists --copy-sourcelist
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| 20:52 | <awei> or you could try to set up an apt proxy
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| 20:53 | hold a sec...
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| 20:54 | do a man ltsp-build-client
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| 20:54 | maybe you need the --mount-cdrom argument?
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| 20:55 | personally i use: ltsp-build-client --mount-package-cache (it still does some downloading stuff, but maybe it saves bandwidth? and eventually i build a client image)
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| 20:56 | <simervillefarm> all the --mount-cdrom argument does is mount your cdrom
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| 20:56 | <awei> i disclaim that i'm a complete noob at the LTSP install as well
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| 20:57 | but i was thinking maybe you need to mount cdrom if you're chroot is failing?
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| 20:57 | actually, do you have a /opt/ltsp/i386 folder?
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| 20:57 | <simervillefarm> the --mirror file:///media/cdrom works and I can get it to reference the iso file no problem
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| 20:57 | <awei> ok
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| 20:57 | so you have stuff in /opt/ltsp/(i386|amd64) ?
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| 21:06 | <simervillefarm> Sorry something odd happened with my browser
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| 21:07 | <awei> np... do you have a filesystem inside of /opt/ltsp/(i386|amd64)?
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| 21:07 | <simervillefarm> the ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///media/cdrom --dist utopic --copy-package-lists --copy-sourceslist gave me the same error
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| 21:07 | yes I do
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| 21:07 | root@backup:~# ls -l /opt/ltsp/amd64/ total 16 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 9 17:01 debootstrap drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 23 17:14 dev drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 9 17:01 etc drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 9 17:01 var
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| 21:07 | <awei> can you show me the "ls" of that folder?
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| 21:08 | oh...hmm..
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| 21:08 | looks different than mine
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| 21:08 | <simervillefarm> well it doesn't get very far in the ltsp-build-client
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| 21:09 | it looks the same on all the virtualbox machines I have tried as well as this real machine
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| 21:09 | what version of ubuntu are you running?
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| 21:09 | <awei> if you can afford it, just try the plain old ltsp-build-chroot
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| 21:09 | that's how i got it to work
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| 21:09 | after you build the /opt/ltsp/i386, you can back up that folder so you don't have to do it again
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| 21:09 | <simervillefarm> ltsp-build-chroot ?
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| 21:10 | <awei> yea... so, do it once. and then you can back it up and avoid having to re-d/l everything
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| 21:10 | <simervillefarm> hang on I am checking that command
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| 21:10 | <awei> sorry
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| 21:10 | ltsp-build-client
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| 21:10 | my bad
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| 21:10 | <simervillefarm> oh okay
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| 21:10 | yeah I didi do that and I got basically the same thing
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| 21:11 | <awei> really? if you just did a ltsp-build-client w/o any params, you got same error?
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| 21:11 | <simervillefarm> I am thinking about downloading 12.04 server because that is what most of the tutorials are using
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| 21:12 | <awei> i got it working on 14.04.2
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| 21:12 | <simervillefarm> but I don't see how that will make a difference
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| 21:12 | hmmmm
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| 21:12 | <awei> i built a VM, installed 14.04.2 server edition
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| 21:12 | <simervillefarm> and you just did a apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone right?
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| 21:12 | <awei> apt-get install ltsp-server
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| 21:13 | i used ltsp-server but not standalone. although that shouldn't make a diff
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| 21:13 | after that: ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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| 21:13 | then it built a root file system in /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 21:13 | <simervillefarm> I just want to run ltsp-server as I have a DHCP server already on my network, but I even tried it with ltsp-server-standalone in a virtual machine and I got the same results
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| 21:13 | <awei> the i could ltsp-chroot -c -p and play around w/ the chroot filesystem
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| 21:14 | i think ltsp-server-standalone actually includes the dhcp server whereas ltsp-server does not
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| 21:14 | but, i don't think that's what you're running into
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| 21:14 | <simervillefarm> yeah I did the same thing (several times) and no workie
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| 21:14 | I am stumped
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| 21:14 | <awei> so, can you fire up a new VM for your server?
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| 21:14 | with 14.04.2 image?
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| 21:14 | <simervillefarm> I MUST be missing something in config somewhere but I am baffled. I have taken a fresh install and done
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| 21:14 | apt-get update
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| 21:15 | apt-get install ltsp-server
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| 21:15 | <awei> ok
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| 21:15 | ok
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| 21:15 | <simervillefarm> adn I get the same frigging error
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| 21:15 | <awei> same so far
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| 21:15 | whtat's next command after apt-get install ltsp-server?
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| 21:16 | <simervillefarm> yes I can fire up a fresh install of 14.04 server
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| 21:16 | <awei> i'll post my read me for you for what i've done so far:
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| 21:16 | <simervillefarm> I copy the iso to the home directory via scp
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| 21:17 | then I mount -o loop ~/ubuntu.iso /media/cdrom
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| 21:17 | <awei> https://gist.github.com/awei01/091eea242acba6688208
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| 21:17 | <simervillefarm> tsp-build-client --mirror file:///media/cdrom --dist utopic
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| 21:17 | <awei> so, we differ on the mounting. i just d/l the client image from net, but i understand your bandwith issues
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| 21:18 | i haven't tried with the --mirror switch
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| 21:18 | <simervillefarm> I have also done the exact same but skipping the scp adn mount
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| 21:18 | and executed
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| 21:19 | tsp-build-client --dist utopic
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| 21:19 | and gotten teh same thing
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| 21:19 | do you have an iso of an ubuntu install?
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| 21:20 | <awei> yes, i have iso
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| 21:20 | how about removing --dist utopic?
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| 21:20 | lemme see if i can try it your way... i'll fire up a VM
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| 21:20 | <simervillefarm> cool thx
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| 21:21 | brb the dogs are going crazy, I think something is at the barn
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| 21:24 | <awei> k
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| 21:40 | <simervillefarm> any progress?
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| 21:40 | <awei> yea, i get the same error that you got
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| 21:40 | when trying to do it from cd
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| 21:43 | <simervillefarm> hmmm
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| 21:43 | I guess I will have to try it again without the iso image
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| 21:43 | <awei> have you tried w/o the --dist utopic?
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| 21:43 | <simervillefarm> thanks for your efforts man
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| 21:43 | <awei> sure... wish i could be more help
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| 21:44 | the steps in the gist worked for me, fyi
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| 21:46 | simervillefarm: fyi, ltsp-build-client --dist utopic seems to be working
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| 21:46 | (no --mirror)
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| 21:51 | simervillefarm: maybe you can copy the sources/packages from your .iso into the /var/cache/apt/archives/ on your server and use the switch to build client image from server cache?
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| 21:58 | <simervillefarm> hmmm that may be something to try
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| 22:00 | I am doing a ltsp-build-client --dist utopic --arch i386 right now
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| 22:00 | <awei> are you further along than before?
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| 22:01 | <simervillefarm> it is pulling files now
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| 22:01 | oh it just failed
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| 22:02 | <awei> same chroot error msg?
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| 22:03 | <simervillefarm> nope
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| 22:03 | W: Couldn't download package debconf (ver 1.5.53ubuntu1 arch all)
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| 22:03 | <awei> sounds like network issue
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| 22:04 | <simervillefarm> hmmm
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| 22:04 | <awei> is your connection slow? or are you charged by usage?
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| 22:04 | <simervillefarm> then every package from there on failed
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| 22:05 | I have a 100gb a month and I just try not to use where I don't have to
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| 22:05 | my link i sonly a 5Mb link
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| 22:05 | but I can normally pull at 300kB/sec
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| 22:06 | <awei> i c...
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| 22:07 | <simervillefarm> I am gonna try ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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| 22:08 | <awei> ok, or, i could upload a tar of my /opt/ltsp/i386 somewhere
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| 22:08 | <awei> its' 562M but i've not tried it before
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| 22:09 | <simervillefarm> well I am pulling it now
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| 22:09 | lets see if this works
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| 22:10 | <awei> ok
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| 22:11 | <simervillefarm> hmmm it got past the debconf package
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| 22:12 | <awei> maybe previous archive had bad url?
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| 22:12 | <simervillefarm> possible
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| 22:15 | yeah the /opt/ltsp/i386 directory looks very different than before
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| 22:18 | <simervillefarm> still pulling files
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| 22:18 | <awei> nice.
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| 22:22 | <simervillefarm> I think I am going to look at the structure of the of mirror(s) that ltsp-build-client is pulling from and figure out why/how the iso is failing
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| 22:25 | <awei> well, it's failing on chroot
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| 22:25 | right?
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| 22:27 | you might want to look around in /usr/share/ltsp/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Ubuntu for the chroot stuff
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| 22:39 | <simervillefarm> the install is still going BTW
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| 22:45 | <awei> yea, it's long as shit
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| 22:46 | tar it when it's done so you don't have to repeat
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| 23:02 | <simervillefarm> just finished
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| 23:03 | I am gonna tar it and I think I may even take a iso of this entire machine
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| 23:06 | <awei> not a bad idea
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