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04:08 | <tekgnosis> I'm having trouble finding the kernel source for 2.4.26-ltsp-2. I absoluately cannot change this ancient version but need to compile fuse against it. Is there a version archive I can get the tarball from?
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04:26 | <Appiah> what dist tekgnosis ?
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04:26 | would be wise to search in their archives
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04:27 | <laga> problem might be that older LTSP file systems were just cobbled together from various distros AFAIK
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04:27 | before project muecow came
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04:31 | <tekgnosis> red hat 3 I think.
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04:32 | <laga> so, if you had the .config, you might try a vanilla 2.4.26 tarball and hope it doesnt need patches..
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04:33 | but of course, the real thing would be preffered
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04:33 | <tekgnosis> ok, I thought older versions started with a core package from ltsp project or something. I figured the %version%-ltsp-2 implied custom kernel patches. I tried stealing the fuse.o from a 2.4.26 DSL cd but it no likey. I don't have anything but the end compiled environment.
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04:34 | sorry to be a n00b; but would the .config be found in the /opt/ltsp/i386 tree or is it part of the kernel source? really, I'm new to hacking at kernel modules, normally I just USE linux. :P
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04:36 | <laga> so, it looks like 2.4.26-ltsp-2 was used in ltsp 4.1
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04:37 | tekgnosis: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42#Building_LBE - check this out.
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04:37 | <laga> and this: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42#ltsp_kernel_kit
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04:38 | hum
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04:38 | <tekgnosis> hey, I didn't find those before; this is good :)
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04:38 | <laga> can't find any mention of 2.4.26 on that website, though
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04:38 | so it might indeed be a newer kernel
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04:40 | <tekgnosis> Alright, well this looks to be what the ltsp has by way of docs, so I'll look through this and also search rhel3 archives and maybe try compiling against vanilla 2.4.26 for giggles. Something will work.
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04:40 | Thanks!
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04:43 | <laga> tekgnosis: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LBE#Installing_and_Building_LBE - use CVS to download the latest and greatest LBE. then cd kernel-src/
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04:43 | you owe me a cold one ;)
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04:44 | <tekgnosis> I do, in fact, owe you a 6-pack.
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04:44 | This is the reason I keep my copy of leafchat after all these years... :P
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04:44 | <laga> ;)
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04:45 | you probably do not want to use the LBE itself to build the kernel, just grab the source for the vanilla kernel, patch it, apply config, add your module and build
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04:46 | make sure you modify EXTRA_VERSION to ltsp-2.. package.def might also be interesting to look at
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04:51 | <tekgnosis> hrm, that's also good info. Reall, I"m not sure how to patch a vanilla kernel with the LBE stuff, but I'm guessing that will be at least hinted at in the docs. Thanks for the hand-holding thus far, it's appreciated. I'll figure out from there. :D
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07:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> :D
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07:37 | <zamba> i have a pretty old compaq computer (pIII with 256 MB ram) that i want to use as a thin client.. problem is that the bios is dated before 2000 (which is the cutoff for acpi support), so it tells me to use acpi=force.. i've tried that, but it still reports the same error.. the only difference is that the loudspeakers are jolted to their peak levels when i use acpi=force.. what can i do?
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07:37 | <nubae> try noapic nolapic
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07:38 | <zamba> nubae: what will happen with the clients that has recent bioses then?
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07:38 | noacpi, yeah?
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07:38 | or did you actually mean noapic?
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07:38 | <nubae> noapic
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07:39 | <zamba> in addition to acpi=force?
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07:39 | <nubae> that should come after the kernel paramaters
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07:39 | so edit pxe.0.cfg/default or whatever its called
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07:39 | <zamba> DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash noapic nolapic
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07:39 | like so?
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07:39 | <nubae> under the tftpboot dir
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07:39 | right
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07:39 | <zamba> let's try
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07:39 | <nubae> and take out quite and splash
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07:39 | so u see what its doing
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07:40 | <zamba> yeah
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07:43 | well.. that "worked".. but it still didn't shutdown the system completely
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07:45 | Språklig intelligens
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07:45 | Logisk-matematisk intelligens
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07:45 | eeh
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07:46 | wrong channel :p
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08:44 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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08:45 | <ogra> !s
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08:45 | <ltspbot`> ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08:45 | <sbalneav> Moin ogra !
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08:46 | ogra: Got sabayon kind of going last night
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08:46 | <ogra> missing you at uds :(
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08:46 | <highvoltage> it's not the same
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08:46 | <ogra> its really not the same
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08:46 | heh, snap
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08:46 | <highvoltage> :)
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08:46 | <sbalneav> Well, lets see if I can make some useful contributions. If I can, maybe I'll show up for the next one. :)
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08:46 | I want to get sabayon, pesselus & ldap going
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08:46 | I'm close on sabayon
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08:47 | <ogra> cool
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08:47 | <sbalneav> my ppa's got a working build, and I actually (kind of) know what I'm doing with cdbs
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09:03 | <wigwam> hi
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09:03 | i'm just testing my working installation of ltsp with new thin client: samsung 713NT
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09:05 | it's boot goes correctly until LTSP starts, after that i have just last 2 log messages on tty1 and only blinking cursor on other ttys
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09:06 | if i append init=/bin/bash kernel parameter, it boots ok, i don't see anything wrong...
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09:07 | another clients work perfectly... any ideas please?
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09:07 | <sbalneav> wigwam: We'd need to know a bit more to help you. What version of ltsp on what host? How much ram in the thin client, and what kind of video chipset is in the thin client.
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09:08 | <wigwam> Ubuntu 8.04 - LTSP 5
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09:09 | <sbalneav> And the ram and video chipset in the thin client?
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09:10 | <wigwam> just a second
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09:13 | <wigwam> 128 MB RAM and AMD Geode LX video
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09:14 | but if i configure lts.conf with just SCREEN_01="SHELL", it doesn't display shell
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09:14 | <sbalneav> I think it's SCREEN_01="shell"
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09:14 | no caps
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09:15 | <wigwam> yes, sry
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09:16 | it doesn't work anyway
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09:16 | <sbalneav> Can you paste your lts.conf file to the pastebot?
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09:16 | !pastebot
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09:16 | <ltspbot`> sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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09:18 | <ltsppbot> "wigwam" pasted "ltsp.conf" (111 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/357
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09:19 | <wigwam> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/357?hl=on&submit=Format+it!
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09:19 | it's commented in czech, i'm sorry
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09:20 | <Lumiere> translate.google.com ;)
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09:20 | <wigwam> comments are probably not important for experts :)
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09:20 | <alkisg> SCREEN_04 = "useroption" ???
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09:21 | <wigwam> useroption is my own screen script we used in our company
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09:21 | but important section is the last one, commented Samsung NT
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09:22 | i've tried also clean lts.conf with only default section with shell, but it didn't work
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09:26 | <alkisg> wigwam: the usual way to get a debug screen is: SCREEN_02=shell SCREEN_07=ldm
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09:26 | I've heard that SCREEN_01 shouldn't be used, but I don't remember exactly why.
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09:26 | <wigwam> alkisg: thanks, i will try
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09:26 | <nubae> alkisg: cause its used by startup
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09:26 | <sbalneav> Try SCREEN_02 = shell
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09:28 | <stgraber> sbalneav: cool, you'll have enough packaging experience to work on SRUs then :)
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09:32 | <wigwam> sbalneav: i've just tried, but the same result...
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09:33 | i've noticed that after message loading hw drivers the screen blinks and font is changed... but log continues until "Starting LTSP client..." message
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09:35 | and then just blinking cursor...
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09:39 | <Gadi> wigwam: try SCREEN_04=shell
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09:39 | and override your GUI
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09:40 | <wigwam> Gadi: i've just tried lts.conf with single SCREEN_02=shell screenline
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09:40 | in default section
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09:40 | and result is the same
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09:41 | <Gadi> right - but you have problems with the Xserver
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09:41 | so, override the GUI
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09:41 | then, you should get your shell
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09:41 | from which you can do an X -configure
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09:41 | and see if there are driver issues
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09:41 | for example
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09:41 | <wigwam> 04 is default tty for X?
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09:42 | <Gadi> no - your useroption runs in Default under 04
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09:42 | so, under your specific client section, override that
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09:42 | * Gadi is just reading your lts.conf | |
09:42 | <wigwam> i've removed specific sections, i will paste testing lts.conf i currently us
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09:42 | e
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09:44 | <ltsppbot> "wigwam" pasted "lts.conf testing" (111 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/358
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09:44 | <sbalneav> stgraber: I'd like to sru sabayon for hardy + itchy + jolly anyway
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09:45 | <Gadi> is this debian?
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09:45 | wigwam: ^^
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09:45 | <wigwam> what?
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09:45 | <Gadi> wigwam: what distro are you running?
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09:46 | <wigwam> ah, ubuntu 8.04
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09:46 | i've just wondered why are you smiling, but i've got it (after i switched on the syntax hilight)
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09:47 | <Gadi> hehe
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09:48 | can you switch to ctrl-alt-f2 on boot?
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09:48 | with that lts.conf
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09:48 | <wigwam> yes
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09:49 | i can switch to tty0 - tty6 i think
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09:49 | tty0 contains 2 lines of startup messages, other ttys just blinking cursor
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09:49 | <Gadi> but you get no shell prompt on screen 2?
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09:49 | <wigwam> exactly
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09:50 | <Gadi> try an lts.conf with just the lines:
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09:50 | [Default]
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09:50 | SCREEN_02 = shell
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09:50 | (no comments at all)
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09:51 | I am concerned that your lines with indented comments may not be parsed correctly and cause a syntax error
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09:52 | <wigwam> hmm, i don't think so
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09:53 | i tried to test if lts.conf i edit is used by that client so i made the syntax error
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09:53 | <wigwam> and i've seen it in startup log
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09:53 | after removing that, the message disappeared
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11:25 | <Lns> OH
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11:44 | <jammcq> boa tarde #ltsp
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13:41 | <moldy> hi
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13:41 | what are possible causes for the client not using the lts.conf from tftpboot? (ubuntu jaunty)
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13:44 | <sbalneav> moldy: wrong permissions, invalid file, bugs in ltsp, etc.
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13:44 | <moldy> sbalneav: hmm
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13:46 | sbalneav: permissions look ok (644/755). the file is completely not present in the /etc of a client
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13:46 | <sbalneav> Where have you placed the file?
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13:46 | <moldy> sbalneav: if i use the same file from /opt/ltsp/i386, that works
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13:46 | sbalneav: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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13:47 | <sbalneav> Not sure then.
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13:47 | <moldy> sbalneav: any hints on how to debug this? what is responsible for this mechanism?
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13:48 | <laga> a script in the initramfs
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13:49 | <moldy> laga: thanks
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13:51 | laga: hm, where is that usually located? it seems my ltsp is using an initrd?
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13:52 | <laga> same thing :) you can look at the scripts in /etc/initramfs-tools/ and /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ AFAIK
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13:52 | <moldy> laga: thx, will try that :)
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13:56 | <moldy> laga: hm, i don't seem to have any scripts in there
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13:56 | <laga> moldy: in the chroot.
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13:56 | <moldy> laga: i am looking at a booted client
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13:57 | laga: find -type f on that dir shows "modules" and 2 .conf files
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13:57 | <laga> sorry, i don't have any ltsp stuff handy so i can't look
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13:58 | <moldy> laga: ok, thanks anyway
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13:59 | <sbalneav> /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ltsp-nbd
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14:01 | <cliebow> Scottie!!!!
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14:02 | <moldy> sbalneav: thanks.
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14:02 | <sbalneav> Hey cliebow
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14:02 | <cliebow> havnt seen you in a dogs age!
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14:03 | i often lift one high just for you!
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14:03 | sometimes i need no excuse
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14:05 | <moldy> where do i configure the tftp server used by ltsp?
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14:06 | <sbalneav> Depends which tftp server you've got installed. normally it's tftpd-hpa
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14:06 | <moldy> never mind, found it i think
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14:09 | RRQ from 192.168.0.22 filename /lts.conf
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14:09 | sending NAK (1, File not found) to 192.168.0.22
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14:09 | hmm, some path is somehow messed up i guess?
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14:10 | ah, yep. the arch part ("i386") of the path is missing
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14:11 | <sbalneav> so just put it in the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp dir :)
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14:11 | <moldy> right :)
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14:11 | so this could be considered a documentation bug, actually?
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14:12 | <sbalneav> Dunno.
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14:12 | if it changed, I can check, and update my docs
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14:13 | <moldy> the comments in the lts.conf in the chroot say you should use /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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14:13 | <sbalneav> Prolly best to file a bug in launchpad then.
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14:14 | <moldy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/377916
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14:14 | this seems to be the bug
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14:15 | i'm not sure though :)
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14:19 | <sbalneav> moldy: did you use a modified dhcpd.conf file?
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14:19 | <moldy> sbalneav: i'm using dnsmasq
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14:19 | <sbalneav> eurgh
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14:20 | your on your own then.
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14:20 | default is to use the stock dhcp3-server and tftpd-hpa
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14:20 | <moldy> sbalneav: dhcp-option=17,/opt/ltsp/i386 <-- that is the relevant line in my dhcp config, i think
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14:21 | <sbalneav> there's an included dhcp3.conf file that sets things correctly. if you override that with your own packages, you'll have to fix your stuff up accordingly.
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14:21 | <moldy> i will compare this to the stock dhcpd config later
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14:21 | thanks for your help so far
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14:21 | <sbalneav> Any reason why not to use the standard ISC dhcpd and tftpd-hpa?
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14:22 | <vagrantc> moldy: you'll also have to tweak the dhcp-boot parameter.
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14:22 | moldy: there should be an example in /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/dhcpd-dnsmasq
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14:22 | <moldy> sbalneav: i use tftpd-hpa. i don't use isc dhcpd because i like dnsmasq and it's alot simpler (i do need local dns)
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14:23 | the isc dhcpd/bind combo would be overkill for my network
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14:25 | but i have an understanding of the problem now, so the fix will be quite easy :) thank you
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15:03 | <alkisg> moldy: tftp-root=/ltsp/i386
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15:03 | dhcp-boot=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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20:31 | <jammcq> hello all
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21:20 | <sbalneav> jammcq: heya
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21:26 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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21:28 | <sbalneav> hey hey
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22:24 | <jammcq> sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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22:25 | * vagrantc waves | |
22:25 | <jammcq> hey vagrantc
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22:25 | how's it goin?
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22:25 | <vagrantc> fairly well, fairly well.
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22:25 | <jammcq> cool
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