IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 17 January 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:49 | <knipwim> otwieracz: can you do a date +%s on a running client?
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| 07:05 | <knipwim> otwieracz: reading on google it might be timezone issue
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| 07:06 | anyhow, i won't be behind a computer all day
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| 08:53 | <meamy> good morning is there some where a up to date list of all values that a supported by the ltsp.conf file? for example is the Value LTSP_FATCLIENT=false still supported found it in an blog article from 2010
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| 08:53 | ?
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| 08:58 | <otwieracz> knipwim: date +%s
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| 08:58 | 1358416682
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| 10:30 | <otwieracz> How can I change LDM language?
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| 10:31 | ldm is accessing /usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8 while starting.
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| 10:31 | I want en_GB.
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| 10:51 | <otwieracz> knipwim:
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| 10:52 | http://wklej.org/id/927972/
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| 10:52 | ldm &> log
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| 11:05 | <Hyperbyte> otwieracz, are you sure there's actual difference between en_US and en_GB in LDM?
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| 11:06 | <otwieracz> Dunno – but when doing strace I saw that LDM was unable to open en_US versions.
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| 11:06 | But I've set LANG to en_GB and it still segfaults.
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| 11:07 | <Hyperbyte> You can set LDM_LANGUAGE in lts.conf
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| 11:07 | If you do it at the console, set LANG, LANGUAGE and LC_ALL
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| 11:09 | otwieracz, it looks like some problem with the X server though..
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| 11:09 | Have you checked /var/log/ldm.log?
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| 11:12 | <otwieracz> nothing interesting
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| 12:00 | <JuJuBee> Hyperbyte: I am back in my classroom whenever you get a free moment.
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| 12:35 | <Hyperbyte> JuJuBee, hi!
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| 12:35 | I'm pretty busy right now
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| 12:35 | <JuJuBee> np
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| 12:35 | <Hyperbyte> But feel free to PM me logins details again to start, and describe your current problem here in the channel
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| 12:36 | <JuJuBee> Hyperbyte: same problem as before, on boot, getting dropped into busybox.
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| 13:11 | <JuJuBee> My client is booting to busybox, here is a pic of the end of boot process... http://picpaste.com/pics/2013-01-17_07-47-21_41-RYFwrDhw.1358427034.jpg
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| 13:12 | I tried restarting nbd-server manually and booting client, but same problem
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| 13:14 | <Hyperbyte> Okay, hi :)
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| 13:23 | <Hyperbyte> !quiet-splash
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| 13:23 | <ltsp> quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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| 13:25 | <Hyperbyte> Question for developers: in 12.04, there is an nbdroot argument in the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default file
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| 13:26 | With 12.10 this nbdroot argument isn't there. How does the client know which NBD image it should mount?
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| 14:17 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: previously we were using ltsp-specific scripts to parse the kernel command line
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| 14:17 | In 12.04+ we switched to letting nbd handle them itself
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| 14:17 | (I did sent some patches in nbd for better parsing though)
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| 14:17 | So, to define a different nbdroot, you use the nbd syntax
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| 14:18 | Let me give you links to the file + the bug report...
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| 14:18 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 14:18 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: script: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/nbd
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| 14:19 | <Hyperbyte> But how does this script know whether to pick ltsp_i386 or ltsp_amd64?
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| 14:20 | If I have two chroots, and it's not specified in pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 14:22 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: that's via ROOTPATH
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| 14:22 | That's an additional change
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| 14:22 | $ head -n 1 /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_i386.conf
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| 14:22 | [/opt/ltsp/i386]
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| 14:23 | And, your dhcpd sends /opt/ltsp/i386 as the rootpath
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| 14:23 | <Hyperbyte> Ah
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| 14:23 | <alkisg> I did that so that it works with either nfs or nbd
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| 14:23 | <Hyperbyte> That's pretty clever. :)
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| 14:23 | Here I was thinking the root-path option is only for nfs :)
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| 14:23 | <alkisg> And that way you can point different clients to different chroots without modifying pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 14:24 | That's one of the nbd patches I sent ;)
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| 14:24 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/593227
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| 14:24 | <Hyperbyte> :-D
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| 14:24 | Nice work man. :)
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| 14:25 | <alkisg> The problems with those changes is the upgrade path...
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| 14:25 | We need better scripts to update the configuration files
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| 14:26 | <Hyperbyte> Fedora has a wiki page where they document all problems upgrading from version to version
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| 14:26 | I always check it when upgrading
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| 14:26 | Maybe this is an idea for the wiki
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| 14:26 | LTSP 5.3 (Ubuntu 12.04) -> LTSP 5.4 (Ubuntu 12.10)
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| 14:26 | <alkisg> Nah... if we had the manpower for either the wiki or actual upgrade scripts, I'd go for the second one
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| 14:26 | <Hyperbyte> - dhcp root-path is no longer only for NFS and must be specified
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| 14:26 | <alkisg> It doesn't need to be specified
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| 14:27 | <Hyperbyte> What I've just written I could place on the wiki
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> If it isn't, our udhcpc script uses the current architecture there
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| 14:27 | <Hyperbyte> I couldn't write your config update script
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| 14:27 | Plus, if you're using an external dhcp server (like me) you'd have been screwed. :)
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> Sure, but you could test though
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| 14:27 | Why? It's client side
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| 14:27 | (udhcpc)
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| 14:27 | <Hyperbyte> Wait now I'm confused.
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> The client asks the dhcp server for the rootpath
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| 14:28 | <Hyperbyte> Before the DHCP server didn't need to provide root-path if you were using NBD, right?
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> And it's the same now too
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| 14:28 | Because client side, our udhcpc initramfs script,
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| 14:28 | ...defaults to /opt/ltsp/<arch> for the rootpath
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| 14:28 | ...if the dhcp server doesn't send one
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| 14:29 | So the upstream nbd script always gets a rootpath
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| 14:29 | <Hyperbyte> mmm
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| 14:29 | Well, again, clever. :)
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| 14:29 | So which configuration files would need updating?
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| 14:30 | <alkisg> That's a biiiiig question
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| 14:30 | The nbd configuration files, for one,
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| 14:30 | and some of the /etc/ltsp files as well
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| 14:30 | <Hyperbyte> mhm
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> Normally when I want to upgrade 12.04 to the greek schools ppa version (something like 12.10),
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| 14:31 | I purge ltsp, nbd etc, remove all configuration files and the tftp dir, and then reinstall the newer ltsp version :D
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| 14:32 | Btw, for example, I could write upgrade scripts there, if someone did the big work of testing + reporting exactly the bits that are wrong
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| 14:32 | That would be more helpful than a wiki page
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| 14:33 | Although some of the scripts are part of the ubuntu packaging (while they should better be upstream ones), and it would need some collaboration with stgraber
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| 14:33 | <Hyperbyte> Right.
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| 14:49 | <dievel> Hi, I have a strange behavior in Epoptes in LTSP environment. I'm testing two clients and I run Epoptes from the server console. Both the client have the same name. If I add one client to a group, both are added. The other features instead works, like screen sharing and so on. What am I missing? :) Thanks!
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| 15:48 | <lotharn> ?
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| 15:51 | <JuJuBee> My ltsp server is an NIS client on my LAN. I used nfs to mount /home on the ltsp server. my users can log into a ltsp client computer but their /home is not mounting properly . They get a message that "Transport endpoint is not connected"
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| 16:16 | <JuJuBee> If I want my users to get their home dirs from server2 and authenticate with server 2 and I run ltsp on server 1 and dhcp on server 1, do I need to install nfs/nis in the chroot and update-image? or do I install these on server 1 and let ltsp handle this?
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| 16:19 | <markit> dievel: probably because "...Both the client have the same name"
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| 16:19 | <Hyperbyte> JuJuBee, you don't need NIS on the clients, because LTSP handles user-creation on login. So NIS isn't needed on the client, only on the server.
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| 16:20 | As for NFS, you could mount it on the server and then let the clients get it from there with sshfs, but that creates quite some overhead.
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| 16:20 | <JuJuBee> That is how it is currently set, but I am getting weird behavior. When I log in using my net account, I get my documents etc... fine but when a student logs in, no such luck
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| 16:20 | <Hyperbyte> You could add an fstab line to the client configuration. This is done with the FSTAB_0=... variable in lts.conf
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| 16:21 | <||cw> JuJuBee: thin or thick clients?
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| 16:21 | <Hyperbyte> JuJuBee, something like FSTAB_0=server:/home /home nfs defaults 0 0
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| 16:21 | <JuJuBee> ||cw: fat
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| 16:21 | <||cw> ah
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| 16:21 | <JuJuBee> Hyperbyte: on new server in fstab?
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| 16:21 | <Hyperbyte> That adds lines to /etc/fstab on client boot.
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| 16:22 | <JuJuBee> Hyperbyte: strange that my account works fine and it is not in sudoers group
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| 16:22 | <||cw> hm. then the client needs NIS too, or else the UID's won't match up on the NFS
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| 16:22 | <Hyperbyte> ||cw, actually, LTSP takes care of that.
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| 16:23 | Where this is going wrong is with the groups.
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| 16:23 | LTSP will make sure the logged in user exists on the client, but it won't copy over all of the groups I think.
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| 16:24 | <Hyperbyte> So perhaps it's needed after all to configure both NIS and NFS in the chroot, yeah...
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| 16:24 | But if you're going to do that, you might as well just go the LDAP way while you're at it.
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| 16:24 | <JuJuBee> Hyperbyte: so I should configure the chroot like I configured the regular clients in regards to nfs/nis?
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| 16:25 | <Hyperbyte> JuJuBee, I *think* so... maybe ask alkisg, he's the LTSP Oracle.
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| 16:27 | <JuJuBee> alkisg: any thoughts on my nfs/nis question?
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| 16:33 | <JuJuBee> Hyperbyte: Since I will eventually merge the 2 servers, I think I will NOT do this as it will install unnecessary item in the image. I may just look into some way of synchronizing the data for the time being.
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| 16:36 | <Hyperbyte> JuJuBee, do you have shared files between the users?
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| 16:36 | Or just their home dirs?
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| 16:36 | <JuJuBee> no, just home dirs
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| 16:39 | <Hyperbyte> Then you definitely don't need NIS.
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| 16:39 | Not on the clients, anyways.
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| 16:39 | And in the future, when you migrate all user accounts, not at all. :-)
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| 16:40 | You said when you log in, using your net account it works, and when a student logs in, it does not.
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| 16:40 | <JuJuBee> Right, using NIS now so user accounts push to new server.
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| 16:40 | Correct
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| 16:40 | <Hyperbyte> What is the difference between "your net account" and a student account, and what happens exactly when a student tries to log in?
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| 16:40 | <JuJuBee> My users home dir is there when I log into client workstation. I open my home and see everything.
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| 16:41 | Student gets message about transport endpoint not connected and nothing in their home
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| 16:47 | <dievel> markit: sorry :) I didn't explained. They take different names from DHCP but inside the epoptes console they take same name, even if they have the correct and different username in parenthesis. This is odd.
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| 16:48 | <Hyperbyte> JuJuBee, what about my first question?
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| 17:08 | <andygraybeal> is there a way to send a message that will popup on the screen of another user? i pissed my g/f off and we're both logged into ltsp.. and i want to send her a little note.
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| 17:10 | like in windows there's some kind of 'net send' or 'net message' or something
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| 17:13 | and from the terminal too.. i remember sending messages with 'talk' and another daemon, i believe began with a z...
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| 17:13 | it's been forever ago
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| 17:26 | <alkisg> andygraybeal: thin or fat clients?
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| 17:31 | <otwieracz> knipwim: ping
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| 17:37 | <knipwim> otwieracz: i don't have a clue on the error
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| 17:38 | <otwieracz> :(
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| 17:38 | <knipwim> when you move the file to another location and try to restart ldm?
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| 17:38 | <otwieracz> Which file?
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| 17:38 | <knipwim> the halt-check file
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| 17:39 | on the chroot in /usr/share/ldm/rc.d
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| 17:39 | <otwieracz> I'll try.
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| 17:56 | <andygraybeal> alkisg, thin clients
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| 17:56 | <alkisg> andygraybeal: if you have root access, yeah you could
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| 17:56 | <andygraybeal> awesome!
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| 17:56 | <otwieracz> knipwim: No, it did not changed anything.
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| 17:56 | <alkisg> andygraybeal: do you happen to have epoptes installed?
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| 17:57 | <andygraybeal> no, i haven't installed that yet. i still have the old one installed.
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| 17:57 | i dont' even use the old one, i just haven't removed it yet
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| 17:57 | but thank you alkisg!!! epotpes!!!
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| 17:57 | i look forward to getting it.
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| 17:58 | <alkisg> andygraybeal: basically you `su - gf`, set DISPLAY, and then you can access her display
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| 17:58 | <andygraybeal> ah interesting
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| 17:58 | <alkisg> To find out her display you check /proc, something like that:
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| 17:58 | !xauthority
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| 17:58 | <ltsp> xauthority: To access the thin client X display from ssh or from a local console, try: export $(tr '\0' '\n' < /proc/$(pgrep -nx 'ldm|kdm_greet|lxdm-greeter-gt|dbus-daemon')/environ | egrep '^DISPLAY=|^XAUTHORITY='
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| 17:58 | <alkisg> where instead of "ldm|kdm..." you put one of her processes
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| 17:59 | <andygraybeal> okay cool.
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| 17:59 | i'm copying this conversation
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| 18:01 | thank you
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| 18:01 | <alkisg> np
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| 18:09 | <knipwim> otwieracz: ok, move the file back, reboot, and check the /var/log/Xorg.7.log on the running client
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| 18:10 | this look similar: http://en.usenet.digipedia.org/thread/19384/695/
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| 18:23 | <otwieracz> knipwim: http://wklej.org/id/928498/
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| 18:25 | <JuJuBee> Hyperbyte: sorry, had to step out for a meeting. Which first question? My account is same as student account. However, after a reboot, it is not working either...
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| 18:25 | <Hyperbyte> JuJuBee, I have to look at it later.
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| 18:25 | We have an LTSP meeting in five minutes in #ltsp-meeting. :)
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| 18:26 | <JuJuBee> No worries. i am going to migrate the servers instead. Eliminates nis/nfs needs
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| 18:27 | <knipwim> otwieracz: looks like an X problem
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| 18:28 | <otwieracz> probably.
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| 18:28 | But xterm starts.
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| 18:29 | <knipwim> otwieracz: have you asked in #gentoo? or #gentoo-desktop?
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| 18:29 | <otwieracz> At #gentoo-pl, only.
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| 18:30 | <knipwim> i'm doing the meeting as well
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| 18:30 | <alkisg> otwieracz: what's the problem? xterm starts, and ldm doesn't? and it doesn't start if you run it from inside ldm either?
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| 18:30 | *inside xterm
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| 18:30 | <otwieracz> Yep.
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| 18:30 | Then segfault.
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| 18:31 | Lemme check.
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| 18:31 | <alkisg> What segfaults? ldm? gtkgreet? xorg?
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| 18:32 | <otwieracz> Hm.
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| 18:32 | Probably xorg.
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| 18:33 | <alkisg> And how do you start xterm? Manually, or with SCREEN_07=xterm?
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| 18:33 | <otwieracz> No, ldm segfaults.
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| 18:33 | From dmesg:
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| 18:33 | ldm[PID]: segfault at 8 ip 0804c294 sp bfe02420 error 4 in ldm[804800+7000]
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| 18:35 | <alkisg> OK, try launching ldm from inside that xterm
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| 18:35 | Also, when you use LDM_AUTOLOGIN, LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD, ldm doesn't spawn the greeter but it directly starts the session, you might want to try that too.
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| 18:35 | <otwieracz> Wait a second, please.
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| 18:35 | Im trying something.
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| 18:54 | <alkisg> vagrantc: can you join #ltsp-meeting?
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| 18:55 | <otwieracz> No, I've tried to downgrade sis drivers.
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| 18:55 | But they require xorg-server downgrade.
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| 18:55 | Which is not available in portage.
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| 19:07 | <otwieracz> When I've started X in tty1
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| 19:08 | And then ltsp i tty2
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| 19:08 | Then there is no segfault until i switch to terminal with X running.
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| 19:08 | (tty7)
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| 19:09 | Immedietly after switch to this tty, segfault.
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| 19:09 | <alkisg> Is one 16 bit and the other 24 bit?
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| 19:09 | Did you try launching ldm from the running xterm?
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| 19:09 | ETc
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| 19:11 | <otwieracz> I've tried launching from xterm.
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| 19:12 | Same rsult.
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| 19:13 | still crashes from urxvt,
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| 19:18 | <otwieracz> i486 segfaults, also.
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| 19:34 | <otwieracz> what the fuck is wrong here :(
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| 19:35 | <alkisg> Upload an strace of ldm somewhere
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| 19:35 | <otwieracz> Segfault is:
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| 19:36 | #0 0x0804c2dd in listen_greeter ()
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| 19:36 | <alkisg> otwieracz: so if you use LDM_AUTOLOGIN, it works fine?
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| 19:36 | <otwieracz> No.
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| 19:36 | I've done:
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| 19:36 | export LDM_AUTOLOGIN
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| 19:36 | export LDM_USERNAME=otwieracz
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| 19:36 | export LDM_PASSWORD=mypass
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| 19:36 | ldm
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| 19:37 | *BANG*
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| 19:37 | <alkisg> LDM_AUTOLOGIN=True
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| 19:37 | <otwieracz> That's make a difference.
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| 19:37 | <otwieracz> Hm.
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| 19:38 | No segfault.
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| 19:38 | But ldm does not started.
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| 19:39 | there's something about "no Xsession" in strace.
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| 19:39 | And in log:
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| 19:40 | http:/wklej.org/id/928633/
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| 19:40 | http://wklej.org/id/928633/
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| 19:41 | <alkisg> Try `export LDM_XSESSION=/usr/bin/xterm` just for testing
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| 19:42 | <otwieracz> And nothing.
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| 19:42 | ldm is running.
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| 19:42 | Nothing on X
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| 19:42 | <alkisg> You do have a DE installed on your server, right?
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| 19:42 | <otwieracz> [ssh] CRITICAL: no response, restarting
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| 19:43 | alkisg: No.
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| 19:43 | <alkisg> otwieracz: try: ssh username@server
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| 19:44 | Replace username, *don't* replace server
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| 19:44 | Check if you get a warning about keys etc
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| 19:44 | <otwieracz> Got warning.
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| 19:44 | permnanently added
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| 19:45 | logged in successfully.
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| 19:45 | <alkisg> OK, try again now with ldm
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| 19:45 | <otwieracz> Same now.
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| 19:47 | <alkisg> otwieracz: you do need a DE on the server for ltsp to work
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| 19:47 | The client session is on the server, unless you're using fat clients
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| 19:48 | <otwieracz> *any* wm is not sufficient?
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| 19:48 | <alkisg> What do you plan on running on the clients?
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| 19:48 | <otwieracz> I need bloat like KDE or GNOME?
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| 19:48 | <alkisg> Nope
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| 19:48 | <otwieracz> alkisg: dwm
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| 19:48 | alkisg: Or something from plan9 from user space.
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| 19:48 | <alkisg> That's a window manager, not a session though, right?
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| 19:48 | <otwieracz> Right.
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| 19:48 | <alkisg> You need a script that launches a session
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| 19:49 | It's best if it has an entry in /usr/share/xsessions
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| 19:49 | <otwieracz> i'm sure it hadn't.
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| 19:49 | <alkisg> You can set it with LDM_SESSION though even if it doesn't have it
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| 19:50 | <otwieracz> How?
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| 19:50 | <alkisg> From lts.conf, LDM_SESSION=your-session
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| 19:50 | <otwieracz> What is “your-session”?
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| 19:51 | <alkisg> LDM_SESSION=/usr/bin/xterm
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| 19:51 | Or, /home/username/bin/my-session-script
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| 19:51 | Or, /usr/local/bin/my-dwm-session
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| 19:51 | Those could be shell scripts that run programs
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| 19:51 | Like, #!/bin/sh
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| 19:51 | panel &
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| 19:51 | wm &
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| 19:52 | file-manager
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| 19:56 | <otwieracz> But why no response, restarting?
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| 19:56 | <alkisg> It's the same message for any error
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| 19:57 | "no trusting server? no response, restart"
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| 19:57 | "bad password? no response, restart"
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| 19:57 | <otwieracz> uh.
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| 19:57 | How can I debug?
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| 20:00 | <alkisg> First get a sane environment... open /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/ldm,
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| 20:00 | and replace the last line with:
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| 20:00 | xinit $xinitrc /usr/bin/xterm -- ${DISPLAY} vt${TTY} -auth ${XAUTHORITY} ${X_ARGS} -br >/dev/null 2>&1
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| 20:01 | And from *that* xterm try launching ldm
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| 20:01 | Now by running ldm manually you might be missing environment variables
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| 20:26 | <ltspuser_87> .
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| 20:32 | <Hyperbyte> .
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| 20:35 | <otwieracz> alkisg: xterm started.
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| 20:36 | And crash.
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| 20:43 | <otwieracz> With AUTOLOGIN still critical no response blabla
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| 20:44 | <alkisg> otwieracz: you have ssh keys problems, so after every boot you need to run the `ssh username@server` command once, manually
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| 20:44 | <otwieracz> oh, typo in username…
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| 20:44 | <alkisg> Once you solve the other problems, remember to do an ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 20:44 | <otwieracz> New info now.
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| 20:46 | I must change python version, wait a second please.
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| 20:47 | But I'm afraid that greeter will still fail.
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| 20:47 | Btw, currently;
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| 20:47 | http://wklej.org/id/928730/
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| 20:47 | Thats beucase of python3
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| 20:49 | <alkisg> Wow, many errors there
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| 20:50 | <otwieracz> python3 is default…
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| 20:50 | <alkisg> Many *shell* errors too
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| 20:50 | What's /bin/sh in gentoo? Bash?
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| 20:50 | <otwieracz> Yep.
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| 20:51 | Yes.
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| 20:53 | <knipwim> python shouldn't give any issues
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| 20:54 | the chroot i created yesterday has python3.2 as default
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| 20:55 | <otwieracz> python3.2 has differences in syntax.
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| 20:55 | <knipwim> true, but it works on my install
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| 20:55 | <otwieracz> So what's wrong with mine :(
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| 20:56 | <alkisg> Doesn't the read-only NFS root cause problems?
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| 20:56 | Without aufs/tmpfs etc?
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| 20:56 | <otwieracz> Some of /etc is tmpfs.
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| 20:57 | <alkisg> With bind-mounts?
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| 20:57 | <otwieracz> http://wklej.org/id/928741/
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| 20:57 | <alkisg> Yup, bind mounts...
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| 20:58 | <knipwim> those look allright
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| 20:58 | <otwieracz> They are default…
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| 20:58 | <knipwim> maybe it's not the setup, but the client hardware
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| 21:00 | <otwieracz> But I've started ubuntu on it.
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| 21:00 | And it worked.
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| 21:00 | And here I have xterm.
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| 21:10 | <otwieracz> If I've provided custom xorg.conf, where I can check if it was truly loaded?
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| 21:25 | <otwieracz> Why the fuck Xorg is still using one from /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
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| 21:25 | http://wklej.org/id/928776/
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| 21:25 | Why?
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| 21:29 | And finally working.
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| 21:29 | Sigh.
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| 21:34 | How can I specify LDM_SESSION for my suer?
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| 21:34 | How can I specify LDM_SESSION for my user?
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| 21:40 | <Hyperbyte> Enslaver, so, are you on the worldmap yet? :-)
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| 21:40 | !worldmap
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| 21:40 | <ltsp> worldmap: If you're using LTSP, please let the world know and share your story at http://www.ltsp.org/stories/ Your can add a nice pin to our world map at your location, plus your setup will count towards the global LTSP usage statistics.
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| 21:41 | <Enslaver> Hmmm, no, I could write up something
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| 21:41 | <Hyperbyte> :-D
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| 21:42 | t
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| 21:45 | <Enslaver> Hi, i uze el tee ess pee and stuff
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| 21:45 | <whyzzyrd> uuhuh
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| 21:46 | <otwieracz> So, where I can set LDM_SESSION per user?
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| 21:46 | I want to start xterm after auth.
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| 21:47 | <whyzzyrd> Evening, I've had a few goes at building with --fat-client. I've 2 questions. How do I make the cow filesystem be an nfs mount on the server?
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| 21:48 | <Enslaver> Make sure the directory is in your /etc/exports file with the proper permissions
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| 21:48 | <whyzzyrd> will it mount it automagically if it's right?
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| 21:50 | <whyzzyrd> I believe the directory is correctly exported. I'll go take a look with tcpdump
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| 21:52 | <vagrantc> otwieracz: ldm will save the session the user selected to ~/.dmrc
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| 21:52 | otwieracz: or you can manually create ~/.dmrc
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| 21:53 | <otwieracz> Hmm.
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| 21:53 | So why now after login LDM crashes…
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| 21:53 | <vagrantc> the server's /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop is where it generates the options.
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| 21:56 | <otwieracz> Where should I look for logs why after successfull auth X is exiting with status 0?
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| 22:05 | Still does not work :(
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| 22:15 | <Hyperbyte> otwieracz, have you set a custom session in lts.conf?
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| 22:16 | <otwieracz> euclid ~ # grep LDM_SESSION /tftpboot/ltsp/i686/lts.conf
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| 22:16 | LDM_SESSION="/usr/bin/urxvt"
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| 22:18 | And after auth X exit with status 0 and return back to LDM.
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| 22:23 | <Hyperbyte> otwieracz, LDM_SESSION can be set to any value that exists in /usr/share/xsessions/ on the server
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| 22:23 | Like ubuntu-desktop or gnome-fallback or whatever.
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| 22:23 | If you want a custom script, you could create it there
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| 22:24 | <otwieracz> ok
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| 22:24 | but
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| 22:24 | <Hyperbyte> I have a machine where I've made a custom /usr/share/xsessions/myscript.desktop
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| 22:24 | <otwieracz> „Failsafe xterm” also does not work.
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| 22:24 | <Hyperbyte> But, according the documentation you could also use LDM_XSESSION to link directly to a custom script
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| 22:24 | otwieracz, do you need the failsafe xterm?
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| 22:25 | <otwieracz> I want anything at this moment :)
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| 22:36 | <Hyperbyte> otwieracz, wrong answer.
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| 22:36 | You should figure out what you want, which session, and then start troubleshooting that.
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| 22:36 | If you want a failsafe xterm you'll have to find someone else, because I have no experience with that. Never used it, not sure if/how it works.
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| 22:37 | <otwieracz> Ok.
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| 22:37 | If I have to compile something on my own in chroot.
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| 22:37 | Where should I place it?
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| 22:38 | I've placed it in /root but when booting thin client I was getting errors „not enough free space”.
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| 22:40 | <Hyperbyte> otwieracz, preferably, you compile it on an installation identical to the chroot, but not the chroot itself, you don't need all the devel packages in your chroot (or at least that's how I always do it)
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| 22:40 | I make a copy of the chroot, do the compiling, move everything over to the clean chroot, do the installation
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| 22:40 | <otwieracz> I do not undestand.
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| 22:40 | <Hyperbyte> Either way... you do this on your server, by typing "ltsp-chroot" to 'go' into the LTSP chroot and then you compile.
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| 22:41 | <otwieracz> Yes.
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| 22:41 | That's how I done it.
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| 22:41 | But after that my thin client stopped booting.
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| 22:41 | <Hyperbyte> So, restore your backup, make sure your clients work again, then retry.
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| 22:42 | <otwieracz> Yes, my clients work again.
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| 22:42 | <Hyperbyte> Okay... what did you compile?
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| 22:43 | <otwieracz> plan9 from User Space.
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| 22:43 | http://swtch.com/plan9port/
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| 22:43 | <Hyperbyte> Never heard of it
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| 22:43 | What you could do, is check carefully during make install what it does exactly, and then see which of those things breaks your chroot.
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| 22:44 | <otwieracz> Hyperbyte: About 150MB in /root of my chroot broke my chroot.
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| 22:47 | Hyperbyte: Ideas why?
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| 22:47 | <Hyperbyte> None whatsoever.
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| 22:48 | <otwieracz> Thats weird.
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| 22:48 | Oh, thats simple.
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| 22:48 | /root is tmpfs
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| 22:49 | <otwieracz> So, ENOFREESPACE.
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| 22:58 | <Hyperbyte> otwieracz, you're not putting 150MB in /root of a RUNNING client, are you?
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| 22:59 | <otwieracz> No, I'm putting it chroot.
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| 22:59 | On server.
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| 23:01 | Where I can, for example, set custom path?
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| 23:01 | $PATH
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| 23:04 | <Hyperbyte> export PATH=...
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| 23:05 | <Hyperbyte> G'night
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| 23:06 | <otwieracz> Hm.
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| 23:06 | I've created new in /usr/share/xsessions
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| 23:06 | But I can not choose this in LDM…
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