IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)


Channel log from 15 December 2013   (all times are UTC)

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02:19* alkisg wonders if we should be using the sshfs -o reconnect option by default
02:21
<vagrantc>
ooh.
02:22
i didn't know about that option
02:22
though, if the connection was lost enough to break sshfs, chances are the master socket wouldn't auto-reconnect either
02:22
unless you were using keys
02:31
<alkisg>
Seems like it... I tried `kill -STOP sshd` and after 30" I continued it, and both ssh and sshfs continued to work...
02:38
<vagrantc>
wonder if unplugging the network for say 60 seconds would hold up?
02:47
<alkisg>
I think unplugging would result in broken pipe immediately in ssh... maybe only nfs would hold up
02:51* alkisg changes topic... in ldm/ssh.c, if we change the `ssh... echo LTSPROCKS; exec /bin/sh -` command to some local `ltsp-ssh-connect <params>` script,
02:52
<alkisg>
we can then run the same command from the script, but also with a `| while read from some fd; do execute command` loop so that ltsp-localappsd works without X and only needs the memory of a subshell
02:52
Should I implement that?
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02:59
<vagrantc>
sounds interesting
02:59
alkisg: you've had a lot of ideas lately
02:59
alkisg: wish you could've made it to the BTS :(
03:00
<alkisg>
Yeah I want to dedicate a couple of weeks for ltsp+trusty and I'm looking for where to invest them...
03:00
Let's hope we'll all make it to the ltsp bts in greece next year :D
03:12
Proof of concept:
03:12
ssh -MS /tmp/S localhost sh -c "'"'rm /tmp/f; mkfifo /tmp/f; while read -r cmd </tmp/f; do echo "$cmd"; done'"'" | while read cmd; do echo "Executing: $cmd"; done
03:12
and then ltsp-localapps is: echo command > /tmp/f
03:13* vagrantc wonders how to communicate what /tmp/f will be...
03:14
<alkisg>
with $LTSP_SESSION
03:14
We should have a dir in /run for each session, and put all of our files there
03:14
<vagrantc>
user-writeable dir in /run?
03:14
<alkisg>
Ah sorry then in /tmp
03:14
Or /run/tmp, whatever's preferred
03:15
<vagrantc>
if you're using world-writeable dirs, using something like "mktemp" becomes important
03:16
<alkisg>
export LTSP_SESSION=$(mktemp -d)...
03:16
<vagrantc>
right
03:16
<alkisg>
Then we can have an "env" file inside it with the client's IP, MAC etc,
03:16
the localapps/remoteapps files,
03:16
<vagrantc>
that sounds doable.
03:17
<alkisg>
the socket, etc etc
03:17
*the fifo
03:18
<vagrantc>
and not bother to export the old variables?
03:18
<alkisg>
We could do it for some time for compatibility, and deprecate them eventually
03:19
For example, the very first remote app would also put the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS in the env file too, so that the next ones would run in the same session
03:19
(not launching a different firefox for each remoteapp call...)
03:23
<vagrantc>
right
03:26
<alkisg>
remoteappsd without xprop is, as root, mkfifo /tmp/f; while read -r cmd</tmp/f; do ssh -S socket server "$cmd"; done
03:26
and remoteapps is echo command > /tmp/f
03:27
*and a chown user:user after the mkfifo
03:35
'night all :)
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