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Channel log from 28 June 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:14 | <johnny> you do not use ltsp-manager in any ubuntu since dapper i think
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| 00:15 | err no.. maybe feisty
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| 00:15 | Chikubu, that is to you
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| 00:17 | <Chikubu> ok
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| 00:17 | im a bit lost
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| 00:18 | i keep seeing refernces to /opt/ltsp but that directory doesnt exsist, i think im missing a step were i populate that diretory, maybe using chroot and copying files to it
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| 00:18 | i havent grasped the top view of the process yet
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| 00:21 | anyone enlighten me a bit, i have a dhcp server, i think i have it set up correclty it refrences /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 and /ltsp/i386/nbi.img those directories dont exist, what must i do to create them
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| 00:21 | i want this machine to allow another machine to boot from it over the netwrok
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| 00:22 | <johnny> you have to use ltsp-build-client
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| 00:22 | and.. if your server is amd64 and you want i386 clients, you must use --arch=i386
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| 00:22 | at least currently
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| 00:23 | it may default to 32bits on a 64bit machine due to the common usage of that
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| 00:23 | <Chikubu> its a 32 bit cpu
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| 00:23 | <johnny> ok
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| 00:23 | then ltsp-build-client is enough
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| 00:24 | <Chikubu> which folder to i run ltsp-build-client from or does it matter
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| 00:26 | its giving alot of errors
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| 00:36 | are these warnings serious? job-working-directory: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
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| 00:41 | not giving those now nm
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| 00:57 | <johnny> you do have to make sure your machine has openssh-server installed
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| 00:58 | <Chikubu> thanks it does, the build wants to download, im trying to figure how to divert it to an offline source now
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| 01:00 | <Chikubu> not sure what its trying to download but it seems to be from ubuntu repositories, rather it look offline
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| 01:00 | thats for in the morning, going to bed
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| 03:50 | <tessier> Hello all! Anyone have a favorite thin client hardware device that can do dual-head? I am looking to move some developer workstations over to LTSP and we really like our two big monitors.
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| 09:12 | <Jane_ux> Hi evey1
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| 09:12 | how is it going?
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| 09:12 | Is there anyway to each time an user logout the home folder is restored to its initial state???
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| 09:12 | its for the use in an public machine, like a kiosk terminal
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| 09:13 | i guess i can create a script that creates the backup image of the public user account
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| 09:13 | and then write a boot script that restores the backup image of the public user account
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| 09:13 | am i in the right direction???
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| 09:48 | <alkisg> I want to install Ubuntu intrepid in a school server, *to be used at autumn*. Which is the best road? Install 8.04 now and upgrade to 8.10 in October, or install 8.10 alpha now and only install the updates later? I'd prefer 8.10 if there won't be any problems with updating directly from alpha to final...
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| 09:52 | <alkisg> ogra, a quick help? ^^^^
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| 10:47 | <Jane_ux> hi
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| 10:48 | I want to restore my public user home folder each time the computer reboots
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| 10:48 | i created the following script
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| 10:48 | cd /home
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| 10:48 | tar xvfz /home/restore_user.tar.gz
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| 10:49 | and i stored it in the /etc/init.d folder
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| 10:49 | i restarted the computer but it doesnt seem to work
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| 10:49 | any idea?
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| 11:42 | <Jane_ux> how can i execute an script when an ltsp user logout??
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| 11:42 | or login
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| 11:49 | <Nubae> login would be ./bashrc
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| 11:50 | <Jane_ux> ok thanks
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| 11:50 | but where bashrc is located???
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| 11:51 | <Nubae> home folder
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| 11:51 | sorry... /home/user/.bashrc
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| 11:51 | <Jane_ux> ok thanks
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| 11:51 | u know
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| 11:52 | the thing is, I wanna restore the home folder of the user each time he login or logout
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| 11:52 | so it is possible by placing the script in .bashrc??
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| 11:53 | <Jane_ux> or the init.d is executed each time a terminal starts??
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| 11:54 | <Nubae> first, what OS
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| 11:54 | <Jane_ux> ubuntu
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| 11:54 | <Nubae> ok, what I'd do is put in lts.conf
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| 11:54 | rcfile01=/path/to/script/
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| 11:54 | hmm but that will do it on startup... not on login...
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| 11:55 | <Jane_ux> its ok, anyway on login???
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| 11:55 | <Nubae> well yeah .bashrc should do it
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| 11:55 | <Jane_ux> but when a terminal startup i guess... not when the server start up isnt it??
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| 11:56 | <Nubae> wehn a user logs in bash is always invoked
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| 11:56 | its an ssh -X session
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| 11:56 | <Jane_ux> yep
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| 11:56 | <Nubae> so try that
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| 11:56 | <Jane_ux> ok, addin it to /home/user/.bashrc
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| 11:56 | ?
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| 11:57 | <Nubae> yes... user being the user for who the script should startup
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| 11:57 | <Jane_ux> ok i ll try that, thanks very much
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| 11:59 | <Nubae> also
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| 11:59 | for logout its: .bash_logout
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| 12:00 | also in the home folder
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| 12:00 | <Jane_ux> ok
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| 12:00 | <Nubae> let me know how that works for u k?
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| 12:01 | <Jane_ux> the script is "cd /home" "tar xvfz /home/restore_user.tar.gz"
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| 12:01 | <Jane_ux> i just add it into the end of .bashrc isnt it??
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| 12:01 | ok i let u know... :)
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| 12:02 | <Nubae> yep
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| 12:03 | you could also add it to /etc/profile
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| 12:03 | and that would be system wide
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| 12:04 | ie... for every user
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| 12:05 | <Jane_ux> ok, nice to know it
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| 12:05 | and I dont need to upload the ltsp image isnt it???
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| 12:05 | <Nubae> update? no...
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| 12:05 | this is server side
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| 12:07 | <Jane_ux> nope
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| 12:07 | doent work
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| 12:07 | <Nubae> doesn't work?
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| 12:07 | ok... then try it this way
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| 12:07 | <Jane_ux> i added
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| 12:07 | cd /home
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| 12:07 | tar xvfz /home/restore_test.tar.gz
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| 12:07 | to .bashrc
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| 12:08 | and yep restore_test.tar.gz exist n workin fine
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| 12:09 | ok tell me which way
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| 12:10 | <Nubae> make a file called .xsession
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| 12:10 | in /home/$user
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| 12:10 | make sure its executable too
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| 12:10 | <Jane_ux> as root??
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| 12:10 | <Nubae> using sudo, sure
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| 12:11 | <Jane_ux> in the file i just put the script code??
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| 12:12 | <Nubae> yeah, try it
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| 12:13 | <Jane_ux> ok done, and executable
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| 12:13 | <Nubae> Otherwise do it the GUI way... System ->
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| 12:13 | Preferences -> Sessions menu.
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| 12:14 | <Jane_ux> yep
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| 12:14 | command: /home/user/.xsession isnt it???
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| 12:15 | <Nubae> thats where u put the script yes
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| 12:15 | for logout... the gdm way is like this: /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default
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| 12:15 | and in that file put the following:
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| 12:15 | logoutscript="$HOME/.gdmlogout"; if [ -x "$logoutscript" ] ; then su $USER -c "$logoutscript" fi
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| 12:16 | and make a file called .gdmlogout and put in there whatever it is you want to happen
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| 12:16 | put the file in the users home dir
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| 12:16 | <Jane_ux> ooopsss
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| 12:16 | it doesnt login
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| 12:17 | blank screen and then come back to login window
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| 12:18 | <Nubae> hmmm... and what did u put in your .xsession?
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| 12:18 | <Jane_ux> the thing is im tryin to restore the home folder, anything with that??
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| 12:19 | <Nubae> resetore?
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| 12:19 | <Jane_ux> i put
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| 12:19 | cd /home
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| 12:19 | tar xvfz /home/restore_test.tar.gz
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| 12:19 | <Nubae> that could cause conflicts yeah
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| 12:19 | <Jane_ux> ooook
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| 12:19 | <Nubae> because you are already in the home folder
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| 12:19 | try with a simpler script
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| 12:20 | try executing gedit or something
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| 12:20 | <Jane_ux> yep simpler script work nice
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| 12:20 | but i wanna restore the home folder in login
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| 12:20 | or logout
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| 12:20 | it is possible??
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| 12:20 | <Nubae> logout might be easier
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| 12:20 | try it
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| 12:20 | <Jane_ux> ok
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| 12:21 | <Nubae> u want a clean environment for every login I guess?
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| 12:21 | <Jane_ux> yep
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| 12:21 | <Nubae> y dont u use lockdown editor instead then?
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| 12:21 | and have a script that cleans up after the user logs out
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| 12:22 | <Jane_ux> lockdown editor?? like pessulus??
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| 12:22 | <Jane_ux> script that cleans up?? like restore the home folder?
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| 12:27 | nubaeeee??!!
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| 12:30 | are you there???
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| 12:30 | logout script doesnt work
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| 12:40 | <Nubae> hmmm did my connection just go?
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| 12:44 | <Jane_ux> heyyy
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| 12:44 | did u say: script that cleans up... any idea
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| 12:44 | <Nubae> did u get all that I wrote?
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| 12:44 | <Jane_ux> nop
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| 12:44 | im afraid
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| 12:44 | <Nubae> (07:29:41 PM) Nubae: hmmm anyway script is here: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuResetDesktopSession
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| 12:45 | you'll probably need to edit it a bit
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| 12:45 | but the foundations are good
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| 12:45 | <Jane_ux> ok, im avin a look
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| 12:45 | and the logout script didnt work
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| 12:46 | maybe because im trying to restore the home folder????
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| 12:46 | <Nubae> yeah I don't think that would work
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| 12:46 | u'll need to either lockdown or clean up after user
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| 12:46 | <Nubae> or.... unmount /home
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| 12:46 | restore, then mount
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| 12:47 | maybe...
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| 12:47 | <Jane_ux> ok
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| 12:49 | about the clean up, dont u think is better to restore the /home folder completely???
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| 12:49 | <Nubae> if it were easy, then sure... but its not going to be...
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| 12:50 | <Jane_ux> i guess not
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| 12:50 | ahhh and thanks very much in advance
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| 12:50 | :)
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| 12:50 | ok umount /home dont work neither
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| 12:50 | <Nubae> yeah no problem, if u get a nice working script, be sure to put it up on a wiki somewhere
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| 12:51 | <Jane_ux> of course
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| 12:51 | i ll refer u aswell
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| 12:51 | <Nubae> I'd study the script that was on that page
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| 12:51 | <Jane_ux> ok
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| 12:51 | i know its possible to put d script in d init.d in the server
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| 12:51 | <Nubae> if they are doing it that way, then the restore way probably isn't possible ;-)
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| 12:51 | unless u do it on startup of client
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| 12:51 | <Jane_ux> and then restart the server every night
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| 12:52 | <Nubae> right
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| 12:52 | u can do ti by putting it in lts.conf too
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| 12:52 | <Jane_ux> not to bad, but would be better in the way u told me
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| 12:52 | at login or logout
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| 12:52 | yep
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| 12:52 | <Nubae> using the 2 methods might be the best solution... on startup of client...
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| 12:53 | and cleanup using the script on logout
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| 12:53 | <Jane_ux> yep
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| 12:53 | <Nubae> should be good enough... are u running an internet cafe or school or what?
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| 12:53 | <Jane_ux> any idea how the script can be in logout
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| 12:53 | its for my school
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| 12:53 | <Nubae> the way I mentioned above
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| 12:53 | <Jane_ux> thoun now just for pure researsh and fun
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| 12:53 | <Nubae> or did u test a simple script that way already?
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| 12:54 | <Jane_ux> nop really
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| 12:54 | <Nubae> ok try something like touching a file or something (touch example.txt)
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| 12:54 | and then see if the file exists when u login again
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| 12:56 | <Jane_ux> touch /home/test/example.txt not working
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| 12:56 | is this ok "logoutscript="$HOME/.gdmlogout"; if [ -x "$logoutscript" ] ; then su $USER -c "$logoutscript" fi"?
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| 12:59 | <Jane_ux> ok, anyway, i ll do it in the init.d way and restart the server every night
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| 13:03 | <Nubae> should be on seperate lines
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| 13:05 | try putting the script directly in /etc/X11/gdm/PostSession/Default.
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| 13:05 | that will be for all users, but in your case thats fine
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| 13:33 | <Jane_ux> ok nubae
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| 13:33 | i ll try it in that way
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| 15:43 | <newToLinux> hai all, after the updates for ubuntu, the ltsp client can´t play sound anymore from the website
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| 15:43 | anybody knows how to solve this?
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| 15:43 | i´ve installed the gstreamer ugly plugins and the gstreamer ffmpeg
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| 15:43 | but still can´t play sound
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| 15:49 | it was find before updating to firefox 3.0
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