IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 12 January 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:29 | * vagrantc wonders if a debian freeze is really likely in 2 months | |
| 00:29 | <vagrantc> i'll have to start thinking about things a little differently again...
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| 05:18 | <garymc> Hi, ive had this problem before, and again i dont know how to fix it. Now ive created Launchers for all client desktops they work fine when a new user logs on. Great. But as i created them with my account and i double click on one i want to load in firefox with is http://localhost/admin it doesnt work for me only. It opens gedit instead. why is this only doing this for me?
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| 06:31 | <garymc> Hi, ive had this problem before, and again i dont know how to fix it. Now ive created Launchers for all client desktops they work fine when a new user logs on. Great. But as i created them with my account and i double click on one i want to load in firefox with is http://localhost/admin it doesnt work for me only. It opens gedit instead. why is this only doing this for me?
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| 07:14 | <garymc> ogra or alkisg : do you know anything about my problem here?
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| 07:16 | <alkisg> garymc: again, this isn't ltsp related, so it's better suited to #ubuntu, or even to ubuntuforums...
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| 07:16 | <garymc> ermm ok, dont get much of a reply in ubuntu though
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| 07:17 | <sbalneav> garymc: I don't get what your problem is
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| 07:18 | You mean, when you click on the launcher, you expect it to open firefox with http://localhost/admin?
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| 07:18 | but instead it opens gedit?
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| 07:18 | <garymc> when i click on my launcher. it supposed to open firefox, but now it opens gedit instead? It only behaves like this when im logged in as me. but not when loggeed in as anyone else
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| 07:18 | <sbalneav> So it works for everyone else but you?
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| 07:19 | Morning all, BTW, everyone
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| 07:19 | Welcome to Edubuntu Bug Day
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| 07:19 | <garymc> yes sbalneav
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| 07:20 | <sbalneav> ls -l ~/Desktop/*.desktop
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| 07:22 | <garymc> http://pastebin.ca/1748243
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| 07:25 | <sbalneav> cat Can you pastebin the contents of one of the desktop files?
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| 07:25 | <garymc> how would i do that
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| 07:26 | <sbalneav> Dude.
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| 07:26 | c'mon
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| 07:26 | <garymc> i know.........
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| 07:26 | <sbalneav> open it in an editor
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| 07:26 | <garymc> i open it in editor and it wont display anything
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| 07:26 | <sbalneav> so, maybe it's empty?
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| 07:27 | <garymc> i tried "gksudo nautilis" and that doesnt let me view them anymore?
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| 07:27 | no it works on all other peoples login accounts
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| 07:27 | <sbalneav> sigh
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| 07:27 | ok
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| 07:28 | cat "$HOME/Desktop/Take Payment.desktop"
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| 07:28 | <garymc> ok got it open
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| 07:28 | there is stuff showing now
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| 07:29 | <garymc> http://pastebin.ca/1748248
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| 07:29 | <sbalneav> k looks alright to me.
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| 07:30 | <garymc> yeah, but i did have this problem a while back. Someone on here helped me sort it. but like an idiot i have lost my notes. Not that my notes have stood up before though ;S
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| 07:31 | <sbalneav> ok, if you right click on a menu item, lets say "Application -> Accessories -> Calculator", and select "Add this launcher to desktop", does that add a desktio launcher?
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| 07:32 | <garymc> yes it puts the calc on my desktop
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| 07:33 | <sbalneav> Does it launch?
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| 07:33 | <garymc> yes
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| 07:34 | <sbalneav> but clicking on one of the other ones launches gedit, yes?
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| 07:35 | <garymc> only the localhost one.
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| 07:35 | <sbalneav> ok, I'm not sure then
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| 07:35 | <garymc> ok
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| 07:35 | <sbalneav> I would go to irc.gnome.org, and ask in #gnome
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| 07:35 | <garymc> ill do some other tests and get back to you if you dont mind
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| 07:36 | <sbalneav> this is a gnome desktop issue, and clearly not an LTSP issue
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| 07:36 | <garymc> ok
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| 07:36 | brb
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| 07:47 | <garymc> yeah no joy
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| 07:47 | absolute no reply in ubuntu. anyone any advice where i can check and what i would actually be searching for?
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| 07:56 | <sbalneav> garymc: I didn't say to go to #ubuntu
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| 07:56 | I said try irc.gnome.org, and the general #gnome help area
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| 08:00 | <garymc> oh ok
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| 08:02 | <sbalneav> Depends on your irc client
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| 08:08 | <garymc> yeah cool im in irc.gnome.org
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| 08:11 | ops wrong window
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| 08:39 | <netlama> hi, anyone around for a few suggestions on hardware choices for a new ltsp setup?
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| 08:40 | <CAN-o-SPAM> netlama: what hardware?
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| 08:41 | <netlama> hello! I want to set up a server plus four thin/fat clients, and am unclear about the merits of ram over cpu for the server, and ram or cpu for the clients...
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| 08:42 | <netlama> I have been thinking about something like 2x3ghz 64bit with 4gb on the server, with 1ghz plus 1gb on the clients.
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| 08:42 | <CAN-o-SPAM> netlama: whats the purpose of the deployment?
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| 08:43 | <netlama> home office...4 clients doing different things...two as basic surfers/occasional low level gamers, one as dev/mmedia player and one as office/dtp with fairly heavy cpu load,
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| 08:45 | <CAN-o-SPAM> what kind of gaming & multimedia?
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| 08:45 | <netlama> 2d gaming for kids, mmedia is mainly audio playback with occasional video playback....
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| 08:46 | <CAN-o-SPAM> and why do you call it thin/fat?
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| 08:46 | <netlama> most of the work at the moment is done on a 4yr old 2x3ghz 1gb laptop running ubuntu 8, but it struggles occasionally with some of the dtp when the graphics get big.
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| 08:47 | Thin/fat because as far as I understand it on a thin client all the work is done by the server, but if a client has say 2ghz cpu plus 1gb ram wouldn't it make sense to keep some of the work on the client?
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| 08:49 | <CAN-o-SPAM> Local apps? sure ... that will help
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| 08:49 | <alkisg> Sure, you can either use localapps or fat client chroots on such powerful clients.
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| 08:51 | <netlama> how important is it to get the highest level server possible?
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| 08:52 | <CAN-o-SPAM> depends how much of that servers resources you are able to use
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| 08:52 | are all 4 thin clients to be in use at the same time?
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| 08:53 | <netlama> sometimes all 4 in use, but often just the office/dtp machine
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| 08:54 | <CAN-o-SPAM> can you define dtp?
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| 08:55 | <netlama> magazine and leaflet production, these days mainly in openoffice/gimp/pdf writing given up using scribus now...
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| 08:56 | sometimes the existing machine goes to full capacity on both processors when writing out as pdf, or scaling photos, etc.
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| 08:57 | <netlama> and running evolution as a mail client with about 1gb of data seems to cause it major slow downs.
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| 08:58 | <CAN-o-SPAM> you have that server implemented now? what version/os are you running?
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| 08:59 | <netlama> no server at present, this is just a standalone ubuntu 8. I was just trying to give a guage of how heavy it gets used at the moment.
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| 08:59 | <CAN-o-SPAM> oh i see
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| 08:59 | im not sure thats the best gauge
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| 08:59 | <netlama> fair enough!
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| 09:00 | <CAN-o-SPAM> i think your server specs should be sufficient, but its hard to tell without monitoring loads your placing on network and server
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| 09:00 | you need to take a look at Ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 with Local Apps
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| 09:01 | <alkisg> Or even 10.04 (alpha 2) with fat clients support :)
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| 09:01 | (not ready for production use yet)
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| 09:01 | <CAN-o-SPAM> which is why i dont suggest you look at that
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| 09:02 | <netlama> I'm reluctant to upgrade the existing machine, its a bit mission critical, and thats why I've stayed wth 8.04 lts. Previous upgrades often seem to end up in rebuilds!
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| 09:02 | <CAN-o-SPAM> rebuilds are probably in your future with LTSP :)
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| 09:02 | <netlama> !!
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| 09:02 | <ltspbot> netlama: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
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| 09:03 | <netlama> ;-)
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| 09:04 | There seem to be quite a few 2nd hand servers on ebay for not a lot of money around the 2x 3ghx 64bit plus 4gb etc... I'm unclear really whether you get anything more in real terms by spending more money.
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| 09:05 | <CAN-o-SPAM> netlama: you have a lot of factors to also account for aside from CPU ... for example HD's & I/O speed
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| 09:06 | <CAN-o-SPAM> netlama: i'm assuming also when you say 2x3ghz your referring to a dual core 3ghz cpu? correct?
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| 09:06 | <netlama> yes.
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| 09:07 | <netlama> do you mean I/O speed of disk?
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| 09:08 | <CAN-o-SPAM> that could play a role in your performance so could raid, so could your router, so could your NICs
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| 09:09 | <netlama> assuming gigabit nics and router, raid 1 and scsi of perhaps 2x120gb
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| 09:14 | <CAN-o-SPAM> knowing what i know i don't anticipate any issues, but you will need local apps
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| 09:14 | i have to go, i'll bbl
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| 09:14 | <netlama> thanks for your help :-)
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| 09:16 | anyone else around with an opinion on this?
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| 09:28 | <dro> netlama what exactly is your question
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| 09:28 | netlama: you are wanting to know what server specs it takes to get good performance out of a server?
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| 10:37 | <sbalneav> !s
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| 10:37 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "s" is not a valid command.
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| 10:37 | <sbalneav> !docs
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| 10:37 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "docs" is not a valid command.
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| 10:37 | <sbalneav> ah, yeah, gotta fix that bug again.
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| 10:37 | grr
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| 10:51 | <chupacabra> sbalneav, I dumped that address off the list. Dern
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| 10:54 | <sbalneav> back in a bit, rebooting
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