IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 1 July 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 13:36 | <tzerb> hello
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| 13:37 | i have an odd and ugly small square in the upper left corner, and that thing changes its color upon moving mouse/ pressing keys
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| 13:37 | how to get rid of that
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| 13:48 | found it, nothing related to ltsp
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| 13:48 | rasp clients running on low voltage
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| 13:48 | cya
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| 22:43 | <john_s__> what are the main differences between the way ubuntu 10.04 LTS handles TC's versus they way Debian 7 does? I am trying to understand the role of NFS on Debian, and where to put desktop environment and software for Fat Clients
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| 22:44 | <john_s__> somehow I managed to log in three times
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| 22:46 | I installed a minimal version of debian 7 and am having no luck adding gnome so that the thin/fat clients can use it. I can't tell if I am suppossed to install all of that in the chroot or not
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| 22:46 | I seem to remember the right approach in Ubuntu was to install the Desktop version and not the server version
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| 22:47 | perhaps that's my mistake here. I should have gone for a full Desktop environment instead of trying to add ti later
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| 22:47 | <maldridge> you can install the server version
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| 22:47 | you just have to then pick up the packages that are needed out of your DE of choice
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| 22:48 | <john_s__> @maldridge should I be install my DE inside the chroot or on the server itself?
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| 22:48 | I am having all kinds of dependency issues from within the chroot
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| 22:48 | <maldridge> server itself
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| 22:48 | you would just install it like a normal machine
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| 22:49 | <john_s__> @maldrige thank you. What is the difference between the debian NFS approach and the Ubuntu nbd approach?
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| 22:50 | <maldridge> nbd is approx. 5 times faster, and scales better
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| 22:50 | nfs has some notable security issues depending on how your environment is set up
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| 22:51 | iirc, you can't modify the nbd fs online though
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| 22:53 | <john_s__> Thanks, and does all configuration for the thin clients still happen via the lts.conf file that lives in the tftpboot directory?
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| 22:54 | <maldridge> I don't really override anything from the defaults, but that is where all my config lives
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| 22:55 | <john_s__> @maldridge, thanks for your help. As an aside are there any known issues with using the web version of IRC from iceweasel I kept getting chucked off
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| 22:57 | <maldridge> I've never had any issues with freenode's webclient, but I have had issues with those of other networks. You might need to doublecheck that you're on the latest version
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| 22:59 | <john_s__> ok, thanks for your help
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| 23:00 | <maldridge> np
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| 23:05 | <john_s__> @maldridge is gnome-fallback still the correct name for gnome2 type sessions in lts.conf?
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| 23:09 | <maldridge> not sure, its been a long time since I've dealt with anything gnome related
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| 23:11 | <john_s__> @maldridge ok, thanks, struggling a bit to get TC desktop to load. My lts.conf says LDM_SESSION="gnome-fallback" should work
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| 23:12 | <maldridge> good luck, I run exlusively xfce for thin things now
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| 23:13 | <john_s__> @maldridge I'd be interested in checking xfce out if I could make it look a bit better, have you got it set up to look pretty good (e.g. not like win95)
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| 23:15 | <maldridge> what!? the windows 95 look is fantastic!
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| 23:15 | <john_s__> xubuntu looks quite good out of the box
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| 23:15 | heh!
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| 23:15 | <maldridge> actually I've got it skinned with my LUG's artwork, looks pretty nice
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| 23:17 | <john_s__> @maldridge is that done for a central config file, or are there a bunch of config files which need to be managed when you change the DE look/options?
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| 23:19 | <maldridge> I build out the theme as its own package and keep it on a local mirror
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| 23:20 | I forget how it actually get set as the default, it was a while ago that I got that working
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| 23:20 | <john_s__> nice idea, so apt-get your package and it ends up looking like you want it to?
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| 23:20 | <maldridge> more or less
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| 23:22 | <john_s__> so if I want to run some or all of my applications "fat" those still live in the chroot, but my DE is installed via the Server environment
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| 23:22 | @maldridge returning to older topic with the last question
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| 23:22 | <maldridge> I've never played around with fat clients, I don't have a need for that in my environment
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| 23:23 | but that sounds correct
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| 23:24 | <john_s__> Thanks for your help! I appreciate it. I do this so seldom that I have to start from scratch every time I iterate. Bye
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