IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 16 May 2013 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <digitalirony> ahhh
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| 00:00 | I like to use awesome
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| 00:00 | (not for my users obviously)
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| 00:00 | but it doesn't handle dual head too well on its own heh
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| 00:00 | and xinerama is just 'cleaner' feeling to me for some reason
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| 00:01 | <gdi2k> I did try installing the proprietary nvidia drivers, but the confusion about versions and install procedures nearly made me cry
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| 00:01 | and we don't use 3d or whatever - no issues so far with stability
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| 00:02 | we also have a couple of machines with ati cards, and they work just fine too with no additional config
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| 00:03 | <digitalirony> ahh
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| 00:03 | <digitalirony> its really not that hard with nvidia
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| 00:03 | really, the ATI drivers are the ones that piffff me off
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| 00:03 | <gdi2k> I think their open source drivers are coming along quite well now, especially for the older cards
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| 00:04 | (all our machines are 3 - 5 years old)
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| 00:04 | <digitalirony> the hardest thing about installing nivida, is just make sure you have the headers installed, and also you prolly have to do something like 'export GCC=/path/to/gcc_3.2 or something
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| 00:04 | I really wished nvidia would have partnered with AMD instead of ATI though :/
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| 00:05 | <gdi2k> but when I look through the nvidia packages, there are piles of different versions - which one is right?
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| 00:05 | <digitalirony> I like AMD company more than intel, but I honestly like the nvidia cards way better
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| 00:05 | I just go to nvidia.com and download from them
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| 00:05 | <gdi2k> yeh, same here
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| 00:05 | ah ok, so you don't use the ones bundled with Ubuntu or whatever?
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| 00:06 | <digitalirony> nah, I don't like to use packaged drivers if I can avoid it
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| 00:06 | <gdi2k> ok
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| 00:06 | <digitalirony> usually they are out of date, and so many people make them etc etc
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| 00:06 | iunno
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| 00:06 | I am prolly 'doing it wrong'
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| 00:06 | just the way I do it is all
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| 00:08 | <gdi2k> ah, remember now - the issue I had was that I had some cards that were only supported by old drivers (legacy) and some only by the new, so it was all turning into a kludge
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| 00:08 | anyway, loving xrandr
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| 00:09 | <digitalirony> heh
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| 00:09 | yeah
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| 00:09 | people do
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| 00:09 | I just kinda, been around a while, and while I love to learn
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| 00:09 | I don't fix it if it aint broke
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| 00:09 | <gdi2k> if it ain't broke it don't have enough features!
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| 00:10 | <digitalirony> lololol
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| 00:10 | if it aint broke, then you need to break it so I have something to fix
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| 00:23 | <KISmith211> does LTSP act as a stand alone internet cafe manager?
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| 00:23 | <digitalirony> no, probably not
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| 00:23 | I mean it probably could
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| 00:24 | but just about anything with linux in front of it means its not gonna be 'plug n play'
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| 00:33 | <gdi2k> I ran an internet cafe with Linux for a few years using drbl (like ltsp fat clients)
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| 00:33 | it was very efficient in terms of admin etc. but a lot of people just wanted the windows games
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| 00:34 | now that steam for linux is there, it may be more attractive, but that rules out ltsp thin clients
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| 01:14 | <digitalirony> yeah
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| 01:14 | well steam on linux doesn't really support much
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| 01:15 | not yet anyway, the 'big games' still don't work yet
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| 01:15 | <gdi2k> I think counterstrike is there (or coming...)
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| 01:15 | haven't tried it myself though
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| 01:15 | <digitalirony> yeah
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| 01:15 | and so is umm
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| 01:15 | team fortress
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| 01:15 | its was the one the tested with
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| 03:34 | <Ayah> hi .. this is not ltsp topic but this is still linux .. can anyone help me on our ip phone ? we can't call to the other network :(
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| 05:10 | <jason1125> hello
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| 05:11 | is there a way to get microsoft office to run on ubuntu thin clients
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| 06:20 | <eji> I have installed wine and also installed some applciation using wine and these applciation are nbot being shared with clients
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| 06:20 | how can i share the application installed thru wine with clients in ubuntu ltsp
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| 06:38 | <digitalirony> wine installs applications to the users home directory by default
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| 06:38 | and not globally
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| 06:38 | so I would suggest looking into some sort of global winerc file or settings etc
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| 06:40 | you could maybe put it in /etc/skel and copy it automatically to new users when you create them also
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| 06:42 | eji, here I found this on google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=917422
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| 06:55 | <eji> how to create syslink
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| 09:49 | * DJUnreal stretches... morning | |
| 09:51 | * muppis is 3D printing a wheelcaps for car tires. http://s16.postimg.org/3r9kyehdx/20130516_114456.jpg | |
| 09:52 | <DJUnreal> very posh
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| 09:54 | <muppis> One broken and one missing, so why not to do all four of them..
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| 09:58 | <DJUnreal> sounds like a darned fine plan
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| 09:58 | <muppis> It is. :D
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| 10:05 | <DJUnreal> if i was to decide i wanted something 3d printed, could you do it for me and post internationally then?
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| 10:08 | <muppis> Well, can't say directly. Postagefees from Finland to overseas are quite high and the printer isn't personally mine, it's my employer.
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| 10:10 | <DJUnreal> Finland isn't that far from me :)
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| 10:10 | i'm in the EU y'see
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| 10:10 | just
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| 10:15 | <muppis> Well, that couldn't be a problem then. :)
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| 10:21 | <DJUnreal> so all i need to do is come up with a design that's printable
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| 10:21 | and you can do the rest, for a small 'donation' in the moneyary department
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| 10:21 | monetary even
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| 10:22 | <muppis> Most likely. :)
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| 10:22 | * DJUnreal begins the evil scheming | |
| 10:22 | <muppis> :D
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| 10:36 | * DJUnreal is excited for next week too | |
| 10:37 | <DJUnreal> shiny new toy being donated to the scouting cause
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| 10:58 | <DJUnreal> 1-12 CD/DVD duplicator
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| 10:58 | one disc goes in, 11 identical copies come out the other drives
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| 10:59 | <elias_a> What bus does it use?
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| 11:00 | <DJUnreal> none
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| 11:00 | it's a self contained unit
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| 11:00 | i mean, sure, there's an internal bus linking the drives
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| 11:00 | but i won't know about that until i get it
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| 11:01 | the beauty is though... it's brand new and worth around £1000 in UK money
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| 11:01 | and it's been used 6 times
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| 11:01 | and i'm getting it donated to me, in box, with destructions
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| 16:52 | <gbaman> alkisg what is wrong with this simple script to install wiringpi on an arm LTSP chroot? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1122948/temp/wiringpi.sh
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| 16:52 | i get chroot: failed to run command `cd': No such file or directory
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| 16:53 | fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
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| 16:53 | but if i try it manually, it works fine
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| 16:53 | just apparently not with a script, is there a better way to do it?
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| 16:58 | <alkisg> gbaman: `cd` is a bash command, not an executable, and chroot looks for executables
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| 16:58 | <gbaman> how would one do it then?
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| 16:58 | <alkisg> And, even if you cd'ed somewhere, it wouldn't stay in that dir for the next command
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| 16:58 | use chroot sh -c 'command1; command2; command 3...'
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| 16:59 | I don't know what you're trying to do though, to better comment on it..
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| 17:00 | <gbaman> one of the packages for the raspberry pi that is shipped with raspbian is wiringpi, allows access to the GPIO pins via python and is vital
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| 17:00 | and its instructions for installing it manually suggest best way is to build it from source
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> Isn't there a .deb available?
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| 17:01 | <gbaman> not that i have seen anywhere
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| 17:01 | normally people dont mind as it comes built into raspbian
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| 17:03 | <alkisg> I could only recomment packaging it into a .deb file, to avoid the trouble + putting all the build tools inside the chroot...
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| 17:04 | <gbaman> i have no problem the build tools being inside the chroot as things like git and make were going to be installed anyway
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| 17:10 | <||cw> the python packages have the build tools. it's not like C source
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| 17:10 | the python binary IS the build tool
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| 17:11 | it's basically a matter of "python ./setup.py" in most cases.
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| 17:11 | though I've not using wiringpi, but have use pyBBIO which is similar but for beaglebone
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| 17:14 | <gbaman> wiringpi is mainly written in C if I remember right
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| 17:14 | with a python wrapper, its build script apparently installs the python module too
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| 17:15 | I need to come up with some way of doing it, it is an essential item for teaching with the raspberry pi
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| 17:16 | its install instructions can be found at https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/download-and-install/
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