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01:33 | <vagrantc> gah.
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01:33 | ltsp-trunk is a wreck right now.
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01:34 | seems like nbd-client -c is borked
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01:48 | well, workaround committed.
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02:46 | <vagrantc> so apparently debian does still boot with 64MB of ram.
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03:38 | <alkisg> vagrantc: init-ltsp.d shouldn't run with set -e, it should restore +e
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03:38 | :
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03:38 | That's probably what crashed my booting yesterday at times... thanks for finding out :D
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03:39 | <vagrantc> alkisg: it's probably good to do some development running with set -e, to improve our error handling, but then ship with set +e
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03:39 | <alkisg> Whooo 20 commits, you've been busy!!!
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03:40 | <vagrantc> a lot of them are smallish
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03:40 | <alkisg> For other tools, errors=on is fine, but not for init-ltsp.d, as they're usually not critical, and the client won't boot on the first error. Yup some checking while developing sounds fine.
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03:40 | <vagrantc> my usual peer review commits and whatnot
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03:41 | <alkisg> I'll be focusing on the packaging today, do you want me to start with the debian packaging and propose changes?
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03:41 | <vagrantc> could make a bootprompt option for it
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03:41 | <alkisg> Good idea
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03:41 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i've already got a bunch of packaging commit
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03:42 | i haven't pushed them yet
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03:42 | i guess i'll go ahead and push them
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03:43 | <alkisg> If you could push them, I'd be of more help today, I don't have anything else to do other than packaging and then testing+bug fixing
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03:43 | <vagrantc> there's plenty of testing to do
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03:44 | <alkisg> Yes but I won't be sure that I moved around the stuff correctly in my installation unless I have the new packages installed
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03:44 | <vagrantc> i couldn't figure out how to switch between NBD and NFS with the current tree ... it seemed to ignore (delete?) update-kernels.conf ?!
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03:44 | <alkisg> I only removed the ltsp-update-image portions that overwrote it the whole time
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03:45 | So no code should be writing update-kernels.conf now, and only update-kernels should be reading it
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03:45 | The sysadmin is responsible for writing it, if he wants it
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03:45 | <vagrantc> manually editing update-kernels.conf and then running update-kernels in the chroot seemed to not work.
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03:46 | <alkisg> The changes in update-kernels were minimal... let me see them again...
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03:46 | <vagrantc> it always defaults to NFS for me
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03:46 | <alkisg> What did you put in update-kernels.conf ?
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03:47 | <vagrantc> i forget now exactly... just tweaked the commandline it generated and set it in BOOTPROMPT_OPTS= just like good ol times.
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03:48 | did ltsp-update-kernels start to pull from images yet?
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03:48 | it didn't seem to extract anything
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03:48 | alkisg: pushed my changes
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03:49 | <vagrantc> ironically, despite my talking about supporting cross-distro ... i used to only ship common, Debian and Ubuntu ltsp-build-client plugins.
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03:49 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I think what happened was that when you run ltsp-update-kernels, it pulled your old pxelinux.cfg/default from the .nbd image, and that's why you didn't see the changes from update-kernels... ?
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03:50 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i never managed to get it from boot...
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03:51 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i.e. the tftp dir, and /opt/ltsp/i386/boot and whatever never would generate a pxelinux.cfg other than NFS
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03:52 | alkisg: i even ran update-kernels with set -x and it would look for the config file, and just plain not bother to read it...
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03:52 | it was mind boggling.
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03:52 | my brain is mush after all this
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03:52 | <alkisg> The changes in update-kernels were minimal, I don't see anything that would break BOOTPROMPT_OPTS handling...
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03:52 | <vagrantc> me neither
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03:53 | took me a long time to figure out it was a "set -e" issue messing with init-ltsp
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03:53 | <alkisg> ltsp-update-kernels does read /boot from within the nbd images for me, and to tell the truth it's currently a little annoying because I can't change $chroot/etc/update-kernels.conf and run update-kernels + ltsp-update-kernels to update TFTP, as it will get the old one from the NBD image, so I need ltsp-update-image too
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03:54 | <vagrantc> yeah.
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03:54 | <alkisg> If we'll continue with the symlinks, maybe we can have ltsp-update-kernels preserve the command line specified in TFTP pxelinux
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03:54 | <vagrantc> writeable images...
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03:55 | <alkisg> Or maybe the real /boot should be preferred over the nbd one, even if that might cause kernel mismatches
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03:55 | <vagrantc> it certainly would be simpler.
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03:56 | <alkisg> With the pxelinux menus package, all this functionality will go there, so it'll be simpler then
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03:57 | An ltsp plugin will read the chroot configuration for supported command lines, and update everything. But I didn't like the "update configuration" inside ltsp-update-image, it made no sense and it didn't work for nfs
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03:58 | We could ship an "ltsp-set-cmdline" utility... but it sounds like overkill
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03:58 | vagrantc: could you give me the link to your packaging again, so as to not have to search through the logs?
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03:59 | <vagrantc> alkisg: do you have an alioth account?
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03:59 | <alkisg> I don't think so, can I just make one?
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03:59 | * vagrantc always forgets the anonymous addresses | |
03:59 | <vagrantc> alkisg: you could
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03:59 | alkisg: but for the moment, i'll dig up a URL so you don't have to jump through those hoops
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04:00 | <alkisg> OK
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04:00 | <vagrantc> alkisg: bzr+ssh://bzr.debian.org/bzr/pkg-ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging/ is tthe writeable URL
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04:00 | <alkisg> writeable?
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04:01 | <vagrantc> yeah, if you want push access
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04:01 | doh. it's in the packaging.
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04:01 | <alkisg> Let me create an alioth account...
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04:01 | <vagrantc> nosmart+http://anonscm.debian.org/bzr/pkg-ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging/
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04:01 | that's for read access
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04:06 | <alkisg> OK logged on in alioth
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04:07 | <vagrantc> alkisg: find the pkg-ltsp project, and request to be added
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04:07 | <alkisg> Done
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04:07 | <vagrantc> oh noo, now i have to remember how to log in
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04:09 | <alkisg> The -guest part was a little annoying... I had to put alkisg-guest instead of alkisg
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04:11 | Heh, lots of spam in the mailing list
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04:14 | Can I remove the -guest from my account? Or I need to be something more, e.g. a DM, to do that?
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04:28 | <alkisg> vagrantc: those are the old ones you've given me: https://code.launchpad.net/~vagrantc/ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging is a mirror of http://anonscm.debian.org/loggerhead/pkg-ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging/files
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04:30 | !learn pkg-ltsp-debian as https://code.launchpad.net/~vagrantc/ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging is a mirror of http://anonscm.debian.org/loggerhead/pkg-ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging/files
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04:30 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:31 | <alkisg> ...and maybe that one is the ubuntu one:
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04:32 | !learn pkg-ltsp-ubuntu as https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/ltsp/precise
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04:32 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:34 | <alkisg> !forget pkg-ltsp-ubuntu
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04:34 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:34 | <alkisg> !learn pkg-ltsp-ubuntu as https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/ltsp/quantal
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04:34 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:34 | <alkisg> OK /me starts the sync...
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04:35 | stgraber: any hints on how to send you the merge request?
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04:35 | <vagrantc> alkisg: only DDs get to remove the -guest :0
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04:36 | <alkisg> Hehe, it'll take a long long time to remove it then :D
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04:39 | <alkisg> !forget pkg-ltsp-ubuntu
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04:39 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:39 | <alkisg> !learn pkg-ltsp-ubuntu as bzr branch lp:ltsp/ubuntu
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04:39 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:46 | <vagrantc> alkisg: added you.
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04:46 | <alkisg> Thanks, ouch, I have a lot to learn today about merging stuff...
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04:46 | <vagrantc> alkisg: so now the bzr+ssh URLs ought to work for ya.
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04:47 | alkisg: i highly recommend bzr rebase- though not for publicly pushed branches.
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04:48 | <alkisg> vagrantc: ...I think you overestimate my bzr knowledge :D So, if I find small errors and I need to push them, should I push them to the Ubuntu branch and notify you that they need to be in the Debian branch too, or should I push them in the bzr+ssh URL, or read about rebase?
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04:48 | <stgraber> alkisg: that probably should be lp:ubuntu/ltsp or ubuntu:ltsp (alias). To get specific releases you can use ubuntu:precise/ltsp (equivalent of lp:ubuntu/precise/ltsp)
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04:49 | <vagrantc> alkisg: rebase is useful if someone commits on a branch while you committed locally and they don't conflict.
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04:49 | <stgraber> anyway, it's almost 1am here, I guess I should try and get some sleep :)
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04:49 | <alkisg> 'night stgraber
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04:49 | !forget pkg-ltsp-ubuntu
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04:49 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:50 | <alkisg> !learn pkg-ltsp-ubuntu as bzr branch lp:ubuntu/ltsp - to get specific release, use e.g. lp:/ubuntu/precise/ltsp
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04:50 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:50 | <alkisg> !forget pkg-ltsp-ubuntu
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04:50 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:50 | <alkisg> !learn pkg-ltsp-ubuntu as bzr branch lp:ubuntu/ltsp - to get specific release, use e.g. lp:ubuntu/precise/ltsp
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04:50 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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04:51 | <vagrantc> alkisg: for obviously small changes, go ahead and push to the debian branch.
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04:51 | <alkisg> Thanks, /me starts organizing himself...
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04:52 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i typically will make a bunch of commits and then edit debian/changelog at/near release time
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04:52 | <alkisg> Gotcha
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04:55 | <alkisg> Heh... set -e is a good reason for one to prefer if over test :-/
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04:56 | <vagrantc> yeah.
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04:57 | <alkisg> Hmm --skip-image is still used in -trunk, I removed support for that
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04:58 | vagrantc: 035-create-fs-image, line 41
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05:07 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i know.
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05:08 | <alkisg> Is there need for --skip-image?
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05:08 | <vagrantc> alkisg: part of what i think the nbf configuration should be separated into a separate script.
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05:08 | <alkisg> I thought it'd be best if ltsp-update-image actually only generated the image...
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05:09 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i'm find with that, but i need to have a way to configure NBD without generating an image.
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05:10 | i mean, i guess i don't *have* to, i could build a chroot and then copy the files ... but that seems wasteful.
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05:10 | <alkisg> vagrantc: nbd now doesn't need the chroot name in the command line, it gets it from the dhcp rootpath.. what would you like to configure?
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05:11 | <vagrantc> alkisg: /etc/nbd-server/*
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05:11 | <alkisg> Ah, you mean the nbd-server configuration files? Should we extract those to a separate tool? What's your use case?
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05:11 | <vagrantc> alkisg: my used case it building an ext2 NBD image loop-mounted at build time.
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05:12 | <alkisg> Gotcha, let me think about it...
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05:13 | It's the same case as if someone transfers the chroot from somewhere else and wants the nbd-server configuration for that
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05:13 | <vagrantc> sure
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05:19 | <alkisg> I think a separate tool would be best, /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-config-nbd
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05:20 | Or ltsp-update-image --config-nbd <no parameters>, or ltsp-update-image --skip-image, to minimize changes, ok
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05:23 | <vagrantc> alkisg: so, i also want to be able to configure only NBD swap.
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05:23 | for NFS root + NBD swap.
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05:23 | * alkisg votes for a separate tool then | |
05:24 | <alkisg> I don't think ltsp-update-image should be ever called in NFS installations
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05:24 | <vagrantc> seems reasonable.
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05:25 | <Lns> LTSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!
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05:25 | <alkisg> Hehe hi Lns, long time no see :)
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05:25 | * vagrantc waves to Lns | |
05:28 | <alkisg> ltsp-update-image would have the "--config-nbd" check, in order to warn inexperienced users about switching from nfs to nbd, while ltsp-config-nbd wouldn't check/warn
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05:29 | * Lns waves to alkisg and vagrantc | |
05:30 | <Lns> how's shtuff been guys?
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05:30 | <vagrantc> alkisg: after running ltsp-config-nbd ltsp-update-image wouldn't bother to check.
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05:31 | <alkisg> vagrantc: Sure, the checks are the same, if at least some nbd-server configuration exists (other than swap) then ltsp-update-image doesn't prompt
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05:31 | (check)
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05:31 | (err die)
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05:31 | So if you enable nbd swap on debian, and then run ltsp-update-image, it still halts
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05:32 | But if you create at least one nbd export, then it no longer complains
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05:37 | <vagrantc> sounds reasonable.
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05:37 | alkisg: also, i think the check in ltsp-update-image looks for ltsp_swap.conf but it just creates swap.conf
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05:37 | alkisg: i think we should name it ltsp_swapa
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05:38 | alkisg: oh, also, can't pass nbdroot=dhcp and use root-path /opt/ltsp/i386
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05:38 | <alkisg> vagrantc: the idea was that sysadmins would prefer only one network swap even for non-ltsp installations
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05:38 | <vagrantc> alkisg: as nbd needs serverip:/opt/ltsp/i386 to work.
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05:38 | alkisg: they can do both of that.
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05:38 | <alkisg> The ltsp_swap check there was just in case you decided to name it ltsp_swap.conf on debian
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05:39 | <vagrantc> alkisg: or rather, why do we define how their swap will be configured?
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05:40 | <alkisg> ...not sure what you mean... we need a swap, but it can be used from non-ltsp clients too, that's why I thought that omitting the ltsp_ was better. If you think ltsp_swap.conf makes more sense, sure lets change it and provide an upgrade check
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05:40 | (08:38:33 πμ) vagrantc: alkisg: as nbd needs serverip:/opt/ltsp/i386 to work. => why?
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05:41 | <vagrantc> alkisg: because that's how yoe coded it, and was resistant to making it more flexible.
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05:41 | <alkisg> It can get the serverip from ROOTSERVER, I'm not getting the problem
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05:41 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i kind of think it would be better to stick with the syntax used in 12.04...
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05:42 | oh, i suppose so.
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05:43 | <alkisg> We shouldn't need to define nbdroot=dhcp at all, same as we don't need to define ip=dhcp, as dhcp is the default fallback anyway
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05:43 | The current command line to netboot nbd is: append ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nbd0 init=/sbin/init-ltsp
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05:43 | The previous one had nbdroot=:ltsp_i386 there, the change is that that part is not needed anymore, as it can also be read from dhcp
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05:44 | And one can put the server-ip in dhcp too, if he needs it
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05:44 | (or even a custom port too)
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05:46 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i don't think it works without nbdroot defined.
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05:46 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I booted with that
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05:46 | <vagrantc> huh.
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05:46 | well, maybe that works then :)
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05:47 | <alkisg> :)
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05:48 | * vagrantc will try it some other time. | |
05:49 | <alkisg> I even put code in Ubuntu's udhcp to set a default rootpath based on initramfs /conf/arch.conf when a rootpath is not defined in dhcp (e.g. proxydhcp mode), that worked fine too
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06:00 | Broken symlinks:
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06:00 | grep: ./client/Gentoo/share/ltsp-client-vendor-functions: No such file or directory
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06:00 | grep: ./client/SUSE_LINUX/share/ltsp-client-vendor-functions: No such file or directory
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06:00 | grep: ./client/share/ltsp/ltsp-client-common-functions: No such file or directory
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06:00 | grep: ./client/Fedora/share/ltsp-client-vendor-functions: No such file or directory
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06:03 | vagrantc: I'm going to put a common function for debug, which will also check in /proc/cmdline if ltsp_debug=$0 in order to automatically activate debugging, so e.g. we'd put ltsp_debug=init-ltsp
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06:04 | I'd prefer ltsp.debug=, to match the other kernel parameters, but I think you preferred ltsp_debug instead?
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06:53 | <alkisg> (pushed)
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06:56 | Btw I started putting an equal sign after the parameters that accept options, other tools normally use "param=<value>" in the usage, but that's too long and usually redudant, so I went for "param=" or plain "param" that also kernels-parameters.txt uses.
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06:58 | <vagrantc> alkisg: all those symlinks seemed kind of pointless to me ... so i actually removed them from debian.
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06:58 | <alkisg> Let's notify knipwim to remove his too
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06:58 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah, that's simple concise syntax.
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06:58 | anyways, i'll be outta here.
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06:58 | <alkisg> 'night vagrantc
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06:58 | <vagrantc> till next time
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09:51 | <administrateur> helle
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09:51 | hello...
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09:51 | Anyone here
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09:51 | ?
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09:54 | <muppis> We are all Kosh.
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10:08 | <cyberpelopo> hello
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10:08 | I'm looking for help: my edubuntu 12.04 with ltsp can't boot thin client
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10:08 | anybodoy can help me?
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10:13 | <Hyperbyte> !ask
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10:13 | <ltsp`> Hyperbyte: ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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10:14 | <Hyperbyte> cyberpelopo, better ask the next question.
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10:16 | <cyberpelopo> my thin client don't boot
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10:45 | <cyberpelopo> I need help
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10:45 | anybody can helpme?
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10:46 | <muppis> Describe your problem.
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11:14 | <Hyperbyte> hi muppis my ltsp doesnt work plz help
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11:15 | <muppis> mrrr... ;)
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11:15 | <Hyperbyte> :-D
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15:44 | <odicha> Hi all!
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15:45 | I'm not a ltsp expert, so not sure if I'm wrong at all
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15:46 | edubuntu 12.04 out of the box - If I use a bios rom I can boot client, but if I use a etherboot o gpxe disk image it doesn´t boot.
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15:47 | <alkisg> Did you try a recent gpxe disk, or a very old etherboot one?
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15:47 | <odicha> it remains stuck at done after loading nbi.img (etherboot) or it says aborted after loading pxelinux.cfg/default
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15:47 | <alkisg> Gpxe should load pxelinux.0, not nbi.img
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15:48 | nbi.img is broken, it hasn't worked for years
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15:48 | <odicha> ok
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15:48 | <alkisg> !gpxe
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15:48 | <ltsp`> alkisg: gpxe: the successor to etherboot (http://etherboot.org). To download bootable floppy, cd, usb, kernel etc images, visit http://rom-o-matic.net/
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15:48 | <alkisg> !ipxe
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15:48 | <ltsp`> alkisg: ipxe: iPXE is the successor to the etherboot/gPXE project, and can be used to netboot clients that don't have a NIC ROM with a PXE stack. To add it to grub, see !grub-ipxe. To add it to the Windows boot loader, see !win32-loader. To download floppy, CD or USB images, visit http://ipxe.org or install the ipxe package.
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15:48 | <odicha> ok
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15:48 | <alkisg> !win32-loader
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15:48 | <ltsp`> alkisg: win32-loader: win32-loader.exe can be used to add a "PXE - Network boot" option to the Windows boot manager. It's developed for Debian and it uses gPXE/iPXE for the network booting. You can download a binary from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/unstable/ (if someone can write a wiki page about it it'd be nice :))
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15:48 | <alkisg> Etc etc
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15:48 | <odicha> ok
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15:48 | I'll try ipxe
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15:48 | <alkisg> OK
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15:49 | <odicha> It fails using gPXE too
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15:49 | so next try :)
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15:49 | thanks all!!
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15:50 | <alkisg> What gpxe version?
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15:50 | <odicha> mmmm 1.0.1
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15:50 | using an oldie rtl8029as
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15:51 | it loads pxelinux.0
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15:51 | <alkisg> Right, and then what happens?
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15:51 | <odicha> then it loads pxelinux.cfg/default
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15:51 | then it says "aborted"
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15:51 | <alkisg> pxelinux has problems with some BIOSes and thinks that the user pressed esc or ctrl to abort
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15:51 | <odicha> just after loading ok pxelinux.cfg/default
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15:52 | I'm burning ipxe iso ... fast test...
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15:52 | <alkisg> Try replacing the keyboard (at one case the user had esc pressed by a book!) etc
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15:52 | OK
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15:52 | <odicha> not at all
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15:53 | I have a full lab here, I get same result in ten different pcs, different nics, etc
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15:53 | perhaps something related to 3.x kernel??
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15:54 | ups
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15:54 | <alkisg> pxelinux runs before the kernel is loaded
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15:54 | <odicha> same error using ipxe
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15:55 | <alkisg> I think there's a setting in pxelinux to ignore user input
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15:55 | <odicha> two edubuntu "out of the box" (32 bit kernels)
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15:55 | <alkisg> Try setting that one, if you don't find it in the syslinux wiki, ask in #syslinux
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15:55 | <odicha> it aborts just after loading pxelinux.cfg/default
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15:55 | <alkisg> Also try with a different pxelinux.0 version, maybe somehow your copy is broken
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15:56 | And finally remove quiet splash
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15:56 | !quiet-splash
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15:56 | <ltsp`> alkisg: quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run `sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default` and remove quiet splash .
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15:56 | <odicha> ok
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15:56 | <alkisg> Because it might turn out that it's not pxelinux that aborts, but something else
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16:00 | <odicha> label ltsp kernel vmlinuz append ro initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/nbd0 init=/sbin/init-ltsp plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7 nbdroot=:ltsp_i386
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16:00 | this is the line without quiet splash
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16:01 | <odicha> but result is the same
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16:01 | no info at all
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16:01 | only aborted after loading pxelinux.cfg/default
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16:01 | I'm using ipxe 1.0.0+ from cd
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16:02 | now testing in a PII-400 with 128mb ram
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16:02 | <alkisg> OK, try what I said above about disabling the user input in syslinux
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16:02 | <odicha> ok
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16:03 | <alkisg> I've heard one case with that problem. Also try a different pxelinux.0 version. bbl.
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19:25 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I didn't get to testing yet, but the only small changes I saw related to packaging was some extra slashes in debian/*.install (e.g. /usr/bin instead of usr/bin/),
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19:25 | and an issue with ltsp-server.examples:client/localapps/doc/examples/*, which should go to the client after all, since they're intented to be used as LTSP_LOCALAPPS_MENU_ITEMS,
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19:25 | maybe an init-ltsp.d can symlink them to /usr/share/applications when LTSP_FATCLIENT=false
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19:27 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i want to consistantly use /usr/bin/ but wanted to only change lines that were already changed to minimize the diff. eventually, i'd like to make them all consistant.
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19:27 | <alkisg> Also the `set -e` in ltsp-common-functions breaks the ldm script, we need to either fix the ldm script or to not set -e in common functions...
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19:27 | vagrantc: I thought the correct was usr/bin/ instead?
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19:28 | <vagrantc> alkisg: really old versions of debhelper explode with /usr/bin/ but i think it reads easier.
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19:28 | alkisg: and when i mean old, i think before ubuntu existed
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19:28 | <alkisg> I think I read it somewhere that those are recommented to be relative paths, not sure where, maybe in a debhelper manpage...
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19:30 | Also if you'll ever do changes without caring about the diff, it might be better to sort files like *.install... easier to read + merge
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19:31 | <alkisg> I merged some of the debian packaging with the ubuntu one in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alkisg/+junk/ltsp/changes, not sure if stgraber had a chance yet to merge it in his tree
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19:32 | stgraber: did you have time to check debian/rules? I have a couple of hours free and I'd like to test with debuild if the current trunk+packaging is sane...
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19:36 | <cyberpelopo> hello
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19:36 | I can't see my thin clients epoptes
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19:36 | <stgraber> alkisg: nope, don't really have much time for ltsp today (post-uds paperwork and some work stuff to do)
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19:37 | <cyberpelopo> what am I doing wrong?
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19:37 | <alkisg> stgraber: should I start from debian's debian/rules and try to merge whatever I see different in ubuntu's one?
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19:37 | cyberpelopo: are you using ltsp?
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19:37 | sorry I didn't see the "thin" :D
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19:38 | Can you see them after login?
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19:38 | <cyberpelopo> yes, i'm using ltsp and can't see them after login
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19:39 | <alkisg> cyberpelopo: what's the output of `ps aux | grep epoptes` in your ltsp server?
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19:39 | Also, which distro/version?
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19:41 | <cyberpelopo> edubuntu 12.04 amd64
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19:41 | root 3140 0.0 0.8 168540 17724 ? SN 20:21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/twistd --pidfile /var/run/epoptes.pid --logfile /var/log/epoptes.log epoptes 1003 17370 0.0 0.0 97452 884 pts/0 S+ 21:41 0:00 grep --color=auto epoptes
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19:42 | <stgraber> alkisg: yes, that'd be the easiest
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19:42 | <alkisg> ty
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19:43 | cyberpelopo: ok, can you run the same command on a thin client after login?
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19:46 | <cyberpelopo> yes, if you can wait for boot
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19:46 | je
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19:46 | <stgraber> alkisg: I wrote a script to convert your branch into something I can use, it's pushing the result to lp:~stgraber/ubuntu/quantal/ltsp/alkisg-merge
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19:46 | alkisg: basically takes all your commits and re-apply them on the UDD branch
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19:47 | <alkisg> stgraber: Cool. For testing I'll make a recipe to combine the upstream tree with the debian/ dir from the packaging
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19:47 | (after a few local debuild checks first)
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19:49 | <stgraber> alkisg: I'm basically running: http://paste.ubuntu.com/989543/ (that generates diffs for all your commits, re-apply them on top of the UDD branch keeping the commit message and author)
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19:50 | <alkisg> Ouch, it'd be much easier if I just branched lp:ubuntu/ltsp and just modified debian/ after that, sorry
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19:51 | <alkisg> cyberpelopo2: btw you're using a different user account on the client than the one on the server, right?
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19:52 | <cyberpelopo2> right
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19:52 | root 3140 0.0 0.9 169180 18336 ? SN 20:21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/twistd --pidfile /var/run/epoptes.pid --logfile /var/log/epoptes.log epoptes alumno1 17939 0.0 0.1 28984 3472 ? S 21:48 0:00 socat openssl-connect:localhost:789,cafile=/etc/epoptes/server.crt,interval=60,forever EXEC:bash -c \"exec -a epoptes-client sh\" alumno1 17954 0.0 0.0 4392 668 ? S 21:48 0:00 epopte
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19:55 | <alkisg> cyberpelopo2: and the output of that command? egrep -v '^#|^$' /etc/default/epoptes*
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19:58 | Ah the output of `ps aux` on the client was cut in the middle, the last things displayed were: S 21:48 0:00 epopte
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19:58 | Can you paste the rest after that too? I think it will show that epoptes-client runs fine on the client
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19:58 | <cyberpelopo> nothing
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19:58 | <cyberpelopo2> nothing
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19:58 | <alkisg> OK, good (about nothing), can you paste the rest of ps aux ?
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19:58 | After "epopte" ?
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19:58 | <cyberpelopo> ??
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19:59 | <alkisg> (10:58:02 μμ) alkisg: Ah the output of `ps aux` on the client was cut in the middle, the last things displayed were: S 21:48 0:00 epopte+
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19:59 | (10:58:02 μμ) alkisg: Can you paste the rest after that too? I think it will show that epoptes-client runs fine on the client
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19:59 | (10:52:44 μμ) cyberpelopo2: root 3140 0.0 0.9 169180 18336 ? SN 20:21 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/twistd --pidfile /var/run/epoptes.pid --logfile /var/log/epoptes.log epoptes alumno1 17939 0.0 0.1 28984 3472 ? S 21:48 0:00 socat openssl-connect:localhost:789,cafile=/etc/epoptes/server.crt,interval=60,forever EXEC:bash -c \"exec -a epoptes-client sh\" alumno1 17954 0.0 0.0 4392 668 ? S 21:48 0:00 e
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19:59 | IRC doesn't allow long lines
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19:59 | So please paste the rest of that line
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19:59 | <cyberpelopo2> 452 880 pts/4 S+ 21:52 0:00 grep --color=auto epoptes
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20:00 | 452 880 pts/4 S+ 21:52 0:00 grep --color=auto epoptes
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20:00 | 452 880 pts/4 S+ 21:52 0:00 grep --color=auto epoptes
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20:00 | <alkisg> Nah, still missing parts. Please use the pastebin:
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20:00 | !pastebin
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20:00 | <ltsp`> alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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20:00 | <cyberpelopo2> epoptes-client alumno1 18430 0.0 0.0 97452 880 pts/4 S+ 21:52 0:00 grep --color=auto epoptes
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20:01 | <alkisg> Run `ps aux | grep epoptes` and put the result to this website: http://ltsp.pastebin.com
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20:01 | And then paste the URL here
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20:01 | <cyberpelopo2> http://pastebin.com/f5iCx2fm
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20:02 | <alkisg> Good, so epoptes-client connects fine. Go back to the server and from a terminal, run: epoptes
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20:03 | (don't logoff the client)
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20:03 | <alkisg> (gnome-terminal, inside your gnome session)
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20:06 | <alkisg> cyberpelopo: I hope you didn't logoff the client
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20:06 | <cyberpelopo> magic, is runing ok!!!
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20:06 | I did'n do anything!
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20:06 | <cyberpelopo> what did you do?
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20:06 | je
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20:07 | <alkisg> Nothing at all
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20:07 | :)
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20:09 | <cyberpelopo> thanks
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20:09 | very much
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20:09 | bye
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20:13 | <alkisg> After issuing sudo apt-get install build-dep ltsp, I also needed to manually install dh-autoreconf ...
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20:15 | <alkisg> ltsp-client-core.install: removed client/initramfs/* usr/share/initramfs-tools/
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20:28 | <alkisg> client/localapps/missing: No such file or directory :(
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20:35 | <alkisg> Ah autogen.sh doesn't get called
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20:41 | * alkisg doesn't know why, but after manually running ./autogen.sh in nbd-proxy and in localapps, the build succeeded | |
20:41 | <alkisg> Now let's see the .deb file contents...
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20:53 | <vagrantc> alkisg: use dh_autoreconf
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20:53 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I'm using your debian/rules unmodified
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20:53 | <vagrantc> huh.
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20:53 | "works for me"
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20:53 | alkisg: and you've got dh-autoreconf installed?
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20:55 | <alkisg> vagrantc: http://paste.debian.net/168973/
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20:55 | autogen.sh seems to get called only for the parent directory, not for nbd-proxy or localapps
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20:55 | Dunno why
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20:56 | <vagrantc> the autogen.sh in the parent directory calls the others
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20:56 | <alkisg> A set -x might help, but I'll look into it later, for now I ran them manually
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20:57 | <vagrantc> maybe we should put set -x in all our autogen.sh scripts
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20:57 | <alkisg> So basically from your debian/rules we only need to add the ltsp-live stuff and the ltsp-client-core upstart job
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20:57 | <vagrantc> and then we'll be nearly in sync?
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20:59 | <vagrantc> don't you also need to add the various Ubuntu/* in the various *.install files?
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20:59 | <alkisg> Not in sync at all, about half of the files in debian/ couldn't be synced
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20:59 | :)
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20:59 | <vagrantc> ?
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21:00 | what are y'all doing so differently?
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21:00 | <alkisg> E.g.: ltsp-client-core.manpages: we also have client/getltscfg-cluster/getltscfg-cluster.1
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21:00 | <vagrantc> gah, gotta roll... more llater.
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21:00 | <alkisg> ltsp-client-core.examples: we don't have sdm and nodm
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21:00 | Etc etc
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21:00 | bb
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21:02 | <vagrantc> any reason not to include those examples?
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21:02 | they are, after all, just examples
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21:03 | <alkisg> The ubuntu debian/ dir doesn't have debian/doc
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21:04 | (don't know if there's any reason not to have it)
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21:23 | stgraber: I couldn't do debian/rules and I had to work around it in order to continue, but other than that, only a few things remain. Some notes: http://paste.debian.net/168981/
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21:24 | If you could finish it whenever you have some time for it, I'd appreciate it as I want to continue with adding/testing ltsp-server-dnsmasq
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21:27 | <stgraber> alkisg: I'll try to do it soon, I have an action item to move the ltsp-live stuff out of the package and into its own edubuntu-netboot package, so that should help a bit
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21:27 | <alkisg> Cool, thanks a lot
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21:40 | <alkisg> vagrantc, stgraber: Hmm if ltsp-server-standalone recommented isc-dhcp-server | dnsmasq, and a user had dnsmasq installed before installing ltsp-server-standalone, then there wouldn't really be need for an ltsp-server-dnsmasq package, but just for an ltsp-config --dnsmasq script
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21:40 | We could also put more options in that ltsp-config script to configure dhcp3, nbd swap only (e.g. for NFS+NBD) etc
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21:41 | The postinst scripts could use it too, e.g. if -x dhcp3; then ltsp-config --dhcp3; else if -d /etc/dnsmasq.d; then ltsp-config --dnsmasq; etc etc
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21:42 | It would even be easier to switch between dhcp3 or dnsmasq
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21:43 | * alkisg will work on such a script tomorrow | |
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