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Channel log from 16 November 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:27 | <gnunux> hi
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| 05:37 | <muppis> Problem playing DVD in thin. Locally runned VLC says it can't open /dev/dvd
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| 06:01 | <Trixboxer> muppis: Is it running on fat-client ?
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| 06:54 | <muppis> Trixboxer, in thin. Solved. Nautilus passes /media/$USER/cdrom as path to DVD, which not accessible from thin as being serverside mount, so I wrote little bash script for checking and replacing it with /dev/dvd.
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| 06:56 | So it actual runs script in thin and script launches actual vlc.
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| 06:59 | Script itself ain't bullet proof. Checks only first parameter, but works from Nautilus.
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| 07:20 | <Trixboxer> muppis: Good job :)
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| 07:24 | <muppis> http://ltsp.pastebin.com/ZgwDvn5v
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| 07:27 | If someone got extra time, feel free loop whole $@ thru if there some other params passed to vlc and /media/$USER/cdrom ain't first one.
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| 07:28 | Trixboxer, thanks.
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| 07:28 | <alkisg> muppis: /usr/bin/vlc.orig "$@"
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| 07:28 | Without the quotes it won't work with filenames that contain spaces
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| 07:28 | <muppis> alkisg, thanks. Didn't notice that.
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| 07:32 | http://ltsp.pastebin.com/Gsq09EdJ Why Pastebin doesn't show if newer post exists?
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| 07:46 | <AndyGraybeal> hi Trixboxer, muppis, alkisg :)
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| 07:46 | <Trixboxer> o/
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| 07:47 | <AndyGraybeal> :)
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| 07:47 | hows your NFS going Trixboxer ?
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| 07:48 | <Trixboxer> AndyGraybeal: Its great.. and stable
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| 07:48 | Chrome works :)
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| 07:48 | <AndyGraybeal> so you are booting your clients off a NFS folder with their home directories?
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| 07:49 | <AndyGraybeal> do their permissions on the client look like 'nobody' 'nogroup' ?
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| 07:49 | <Trixboxer> yes
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| 07:49 | NFS_HOME=/home
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| 07:49 | no
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| 07:49 | its 700
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| 07:50 | <AndyGraybeal> so 700 is the mask? is the actual user the owner?
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| 07:53 | ah nevermind, it takes me forever to figure this stuff out.
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| 07:53 | in 7 minutes i'm going to go buy a cellular modem, so i can get highspeed internet at home; instead of dial-up modem.
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| 08:02 | <robehend1> AndyGraybeal: Such a nice upgrade, that
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| 08:08 | <Trixboxer> AndyGraybeal: Yes
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| 08:08 | the actual user is the owner of that folder
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| 08:08 | I wonder why the GID UID dint messed up
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| 08:08 | still, things are fine till now
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| 08:11 | AndyGraybeal: Do you really get over 56kbps on a cellular modem ?
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| 08:33 | <robehend1> Ok guys, need some suggestions. I've got my big parent-teacher conferences tonight, and the board has asked me to showcase LTSP a bit. Whats something that I can really WoW'em with?
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| 08:38 | <stgraber> robehend1: what kind of hardware and version of the distro is that ?
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| 08:39 | <robehend1> stgraber: hardware is going to be some pent D with 2 gb of ram, running off an dual xeon server with 16 gb of ram. Distro is ubuntu
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| 08:39 | <stgraber> robehend1: do you have compiz working on these clients ? if so, running firefox as a localapp + some education softwares and playing with wobbly windows + compiz cube is usually impressive enough :)
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| 08:40 | <robehend1> stgraber: i dont at the moment, but I could give it a shot. I had figured on some Firefox localapps with flash games, was just wondering if there was any other "wow" i can provide. This is for parents, so we're trying to show that Linux is a good choice for their children
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| 08:43 | <AndyGraybeal> Trixboxer: so i got the cellular modem! Trixboxer: yes, i got solid 40KB/s at home with my friends verizon cellular phone. so this should pull the same KB's. my dial-up modem gets about 3-4KB/s. it will be grand.
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| 08:44 | <highvoltage> robehend1: tuxpaint is simple but ime really effective. showing what the technology is capable using some games like nexuiz or openarena helps a lot for the 'wow' factor
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| 08:44 | <Trixboxer> yes 1000% speed growth :P
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| 08:44 | AndyGraybeal: yes 1000% speed growth :P
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| 08:44 | <AndyGraybeal> robehend1: i don't know what to say, but i love stellarium :) if i had that when i was a kid.. omg !!
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| 08:44 | <robehend1> highvoltage: Never thought of doing games. Do they run decently in an LTSP setup, or do I need to run them as local apps.
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| 08:45 | AndyGraybeal: oo, another good choice. I've got Kstars on there, but I like stellarium better.
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| 08:45 | <AndyGraybeal> kstars is more scientific for sure :)
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| 08:45 | <robehend1> AndyGraybeal: Screw science, we're after "OMG SHINY" tonight
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| 08:45 | <AndyGraybeal> :)
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| 08:46 | do you get parents asking why their kids are using openoffice, when they should be using microsoft office?
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| 08:46 | <robehend1> Many, many times
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| 08:46 | <highvoltage> robehend1: for best performance I'd suggest it as a local app
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| 08:46 | <robehend1> Trixboxer: Change your dns from what the modem is giving you. My verizon card's dns sucks. I prefer OpenDNS or Google dns. Sped me up another 12% or more
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| 08:46 | <AndyGraybeal> robehend1: ho do you deal with that?
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| 08:47 | *how (my w key wants to not work)
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| 08:47 | <Trixboxer> robehend1: Why me? Im already on 8.8.8.8
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| 08:47 | <robehend1> highvoltage: Hmm, ok. Is openarena violent? It's an elementary school, afterall.
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| 08:47 | <Trixboxer> :)
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| 08:47 | <robehend1> Trixboxer: Ah, nice. Just a suggestion
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| 08:47 | AndyGraybeal: It's a case by case. usually, after explaining to the parent what OpenOffice, now LibreOffice stands for, and how it's used, they're fine
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| 08:47 | <Trixboxer> I was confused.. you selected me :).. thanks
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| 08:48 | <robehend1> AndyGraybeal: The hardcore "USE MS NOW" parents are nearly impossible to win with, however
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| 08:48 | Trixboxer: only becuase I have a verizon modem, and it kept trying to use a dns in Florida..while I'm in minnesota..
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| 08:48 | <AndyGraybeal> robehend1: *nods* ... i can't beleive they exists, but i mean.. i do believe it.
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| 08:49 | <robehend1> AndyGraybeal: What's worse is the parents who, themselves, work in IT in some form.
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| 08:49 | <Trixboxer> oh.. np
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| 08:49 | <robehend1> AndyGraybeal: Just becuase they work on the "IT Innovation" team for Bank of America means that they must be correct over the lowly Tech. coordinator for a rural K-12!
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| 08:49 | <highvoltage> robehend1: hmm, it is somewhat
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| 08:49 | <AndyGraybeal> robehend1: obviously!
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| 08:49 | :)
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| 08:50 | <robehend1> highvoltage: Age levels you'd recommend? Last thing I need is some freaked out parent from when a penguin explodes.
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| 08:50 | <highvoltage> robehend1: extremetuxracer will probably be better then :)
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| 08:50 | <robehend1> highvoltage: Works for me, thanks.
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| 08:51 | AndyGraybeal: had one parent, who runs a local computer repair shop, tell me what Linux was not stable enough for deployment. His reasoning is that "when I ran it, I'd update, and my keyboard quit working! So it must be a crap peice of software!"
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| 08:51 | <AndyGraybeal> omg.. crazy, obviously he's correct.
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| 08:52 | yea, i'm glad your board is letting you present.
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| 08:52 | as long as the board supports what you do, i hope that the rest is smooth for you.
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| 08:53 | <robehend1> me too. It's an election year though, so who knows. Boards tend to flip/flop a bit when it comes to them
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| 08:54 | I sorta sneaked getting approval for LTSP under their noses anyways. I setup an LTSP box, booted 10 clients into it. I had configured Gnome to look nearly identical to Windows 7, except with a Tux logo instead of the Windows one on the start button. Had the board use the system, they liked it, said it was fast..then I showed them it was linux.
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| 08:54 | Figured that if they themselves couldn't tell the difference, they couldnt complain to much about students. being confused.
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| 08:54 | <AndyGraybeal> amazing.
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| 08:54 | did you explain the clutches that you have escaped by choosing linux?
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| 08:55 | <robehend1> Yep. as well as the lovely "here's how much money we save" graph
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| 08:55 | it helped, of course, after I told them that 90% of our servers were Linux already
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| 09:38 | <AndyGraybeal> okay, it looks like i have to initialize the modem on a windows computer.
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| 10:41 | <crazed> what would you guys do for like a distributed file system
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| 10:41 | each office (hong kong, san jose, and new jersey for example), has 2 ltsp servers and 1 nfs server
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| 10:42 | the nfs server gives the home directories
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| 10:42 | how would you handle replication across each nfs server
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| 11:35 | <Lifeboy> Does anyone here how how to troubleshoot jetpipe?
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| 11:36 | <Lifeboy> eh, I meant "... know how to troubleshoot jetpipe"
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| 11:38 | <Gadi> Lifeboy: whats the problem?
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| 11:48 | <Lifeboy> Jetpipe just doesn't start when a usb printer is plugged into the thin client. - It's set in ltsp.conf and if I run it manually it starts.
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| 11:52 | <Gadi> what entry do you have in lts.conf?
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| 11:52 | also, if you have a shell on the client, run:
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| 11:52 | . /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config
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| 11:53 | <Gadi> env|grep PRINTER
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| 11:53 | and make sure your printer setting from lts.conf is there
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| 11:59 | <sbalneav> Anyone have any thoughts on the patch I proposed to -develop?
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| 12:00 | <alkisg> sbalneav: looks fine, go ahead
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| 12:00 | No need to rewrite daemon stuff if it's in a python lib
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| 12:00 | Simpler etc, go for it
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| 12:00 | <sbalneav> That was my thought.
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| 12:00 | ok, I'll update later this-afternoon.
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| 12:02 | <ogra> sbalneav, did you talk to stgraber ? he needs to promote python-daemon to main in ubuntu
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| 12:02 | the patch looks great btw
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| 12:04 | <Lifeboy> @Gadi: Unfortunately it seems that the guy who's got the printer on his client device has gone home and turned off his device, so I cannot check is remotely now. I will have to wait till he's back in the morning (he's in another town)
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| 12:06 | Does "env|grep PRINTER" mean that the settings in lts.conf are actually exported to the client chroot environment on startup?
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| 12:08 | I've got the following in lts.conf:
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| 12:08 | [44:4D:50:02:ED:EE]
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| 12:08 | LOCALDEV = true
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| 12:08 | PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usblp0
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| 12:08 | PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
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| 12:17 | <Lifeboy> @Gadi: I managed to clear my screen by accident, what was die command to check the tlsp-config again?
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| 12:24 | I just tried another client. I firstly changed the lts.conf to make the settings that I had for one specific mac address the setting for all clients. Then I rebooted the client. Here are the env results:
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| 12:24 | TERM=xterm
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| 12:24 | SHELL=/bin/bash
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| 12:24 | SSH_CLIENT=192.168.8.100 43271 22
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| 12:24 | SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0
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| 12:24 | USER=roland
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| 12:24 | LS_COLORS=rs=0:d<cut>
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| 12:24 | MAIL=/var/mail/roland
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| 12:24 | PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
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| 12:24 | PWD=/home/roland
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| 12:24 | LANG=en_ZA.UTF-8
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| 12:24 | SHLVL=1
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| 12:24 | HOME=/home/roland
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| 12:24 | LOGNAME=roland
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| 12:24 | SSH_CONNECTION=192.168.8.100 43271 192.168.8.104 22
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| 12:24 | LESSOPEN=| /usr/bin/lesspipe %s
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| 12:24 | LESSCLOSE=/usr/bin/lesspipe %s %s
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| 12:24 | _=/usr/bin/env
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| 12:28 | Ok, I found ". /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config" in the logs, but it gives not results. What should I except to get?
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| 12:41 | <Lifeboy> So, the settings in the default section of lts.conf are not exported. Should they be? How to proceed to troubleshoot this?
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| 12:43 | <alkisg> Lifeboy: if `getltscfg -a` gives you the settings in lts.conf, then it's ok, they don't need to be exported
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| 12:44 | <Lifeboy> 'getltscfg -a' gives no output
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| 12:44 | <alkisg> Is that from a *local* terminal on the client?
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| 12:45 | <Lifeboy> That is when I log into the shell of the client with ssh, ie the thin client, not the user's session on the server
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| 12:46 | <robehend1> has anyone ever used a VOIP terminal over LTSP successfully? Like a softphone?
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| 12:46 | <alkisg> Lifeboy: distro/version? Where did you put lts.conf? And what are its exact contents?
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| 12:46 | <Lifeboy> @robehend1: yes, in a callcentre. worked well on Ubuntu Intrepid.
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| 12:47 | <robehend1> Lifeboy: You basically just set up the softphone software as a local app, and then it worked?
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| 12:50 | <Lifeboy> alkisg: Ubuntu Server 10.10 LTSP 5.2.4-0ubuntu6. /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf contains
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| 12:50 | [default]
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| 12:50 | LDM_DIRECTX = True
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| 12:50 | LOCALDEV = true
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| 12:50 | PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usblp0
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| 12:50 | PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
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| 12:50 | <alkisg> Lifeboy: hmmm that doesn't sound right then, getltscfg -a giving you nothing
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| 12:51 | !localxterrm
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| 12:51 | <ltspbot> alkisg: Error: "localxterrm" is not a valid command.
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| 12:51 | <alkisg> Can you retry it from a localxterm? Or are you not near the clients?
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| 12:51 | <Lifeboy> robehend1: Yes, the tricky part was getting the sound to work on the hardware we used. We started with Hardy and then moved the clients to intrepid to get the proper sound support. But essentially it the sound works fine if you boot from a flashdrive with the client os on, then LTSP will work fine as well.
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| 12:51 | <highvoltage> Lifeboy: where's your lts.conf file?
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| 12:52 | (ah, you did say, nm)
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| 12:52 | <Lifeboy> I can reach a client via ssh from the server?
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| 12:55 | alkish: I'm not sure what you mean by a localxterm? I'm doing these command in a shell on the OS that boots the thin client. Should I do it on the client session (that runs on the server)? Surely not?
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| 12:55 | (I added a user to the chroot so I can login to the client to troubleshoot this issue)
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| 12:57 | <robehend1> Lifeboy: Nice, thanks Lifeboy. I want my kids to learn a bit of business phone, this seemed like a good setup
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| 12:58 | <Lifeboy> alkish & highvoltage: There are two locations on the server for LTSP. /srv/ltsp and /opt/ltsp. Since dhcp3 in Maveric (Ubuntu 10.10) set the next server to /srv/ltsp, I assumed that is the correct one. I compared the files in both and it seems when I build the image both get updated anyway
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| 12:59 | <highvoltage> Lifeboy: hmm, by default it uses /opt/ltsp in 10.10 still
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| 12:59 | <Lifeboy> Also, the server is 64bit, the client i386
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| 12:59 | <Lifeboy> Any idea where /srv/ltsp comes from?
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| 13:00 | <highvoltage> I think some distributions use that
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| 13:00 | <Lifeboy> Let me change the dhcp & tftp server to use /opt/ltsp and lets see what happens.
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| 13:01 | Maybe /srv/ltsp never reads the correct lts.conf file!
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> Lifeboy: that's for tftp
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| 13:01 | see the path in /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 13:01 | <Lifeboy> But that tells the client where the boot image is, right?
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> Maybe you're putting lts.conf in the wrong location. Did you do a clean installation or an upgrade?
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| 13:01 | <Lifeboy> upgrade
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> I think that's a known bug
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| 13:02 | <Lifeboy> what is?
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> I think still /var/lib/tftpboot is used for tftp on clean installations, but on upgrades somehow that breaks and /srv is used
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| 13:02 | <highvoltage> alkisg: I believe stgraber fixed that
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| 13:02 | <sbalneav> ogra: Thanks, I'll ping him first then.
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> So in your case now you'd have to put lts.conf in /srv/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 13:02 | highvoltage: I don't think so
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| 13:03 | <highvoltage> hmm, that bug broke ltsp in edubuntu, and I didn't have to fix it later on
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| 13:03 | <Lifeboy> I
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| 13:03 | <ogra_ac> sbalneav, well, add your patch to upstream ;) just make sure he knows about the extra dep ;)
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| 13:03 | <alkisg> highvoltage: I only see it on upgrades now
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| 13:03 | <Lifeboy> 'I'd rather put it where is should be and fix the tftp parh
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| 13:03 | path
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| 13:03 | <alkisg> Lifeboy: see the notes about the uppgrade bug in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 13:04 | <Lifeboy> Ok, lemme check that...
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| 13:04 | <alkisg> (and the correct /etc/default/tftpd-hpa there)
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| 13:05 | <Lifeboy> I was bragging to my peers that the upgrade from Hardy to Karmic and then the Lucid and then Maverick went well without major hickups! It's just the local printer that trips me up.
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| 13:05 | <sbalneav> ogra_ac: Well, no, I'd rather wait until he's got his ducks in a row, I hate to cause him more work.
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| 13:06 | <ogra_ac> he has to do the work anyway
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| 13:08 | <Lifeboy> Is it safe to remove /srv/ltsp after upgrading then?
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| 13:08 | <sbalneav> Well, I don't want to cause him work before he's ready for it then. :)
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| 13:09 | Just me being my usual considerate self :)
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| 13:12 | So, if people have a few moments, I'd like to seek some input on the pam_sshlib module.
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| 13:13 | I'm getting close to having something we can actually start to play with, but I'm wondering how "LTSP" specific we can/should make it.
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| 13:13 | <sbalneav> i.e. having it look for env variables like LDM_ and write sockets automatically like /var/run/ldm_socket...
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| 13:13 | <alkisg> Lifeboy: if you moved it's contents to /var/lib/tftpboot (if needed), and fixed the configuration file, then yes, it's safe to delete it
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| 13:14 | <sbalneav> As it may be useful for people in environments outside of LTSP.
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| 13:14 | so, here's my thoughts:
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| 13:14 | <Lifeboy> alkisg: And if I re-run ltsp-build-client? Will the file go to /srv/tftp/ltsp/i386/ again?
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| 13:15 | <sbalneav> What we do is, through a combination of pam command line options, and PAM_SSHLIB_* environment variables, the module's configured.
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| 13:15 | So, for instance, the socket prefix could be set with: (in a pam.d file)
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| 13:16 | auth required pam_sshlib.o socket_prefix=/var/lib/ldm_socket_
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| 13:16 | <Lifeboy> Ah, "fixed the configuration files" means that /srv/tftp is not in there anymore, so it doesn't write there anymore... I get it.
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| 13:16 | <sbalneav> and with the setup parts of environment variables, we just need a few extra lines of shell code, to wit:
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| 13:16 | PAM_SSHLIB_HOST=${LDM_SERVER}
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| 13:17 | <alkisg> Lifeboy: right
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| 13:17 | <sbalneav> PAM_SSHLIB_PORT=${LDM_SSHPORT}
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| 13:17 | etc.
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| 13:18 | it means a few extra lines of code for us, but then other projects that may want to make use of pam_sshlib don't need to have esoteric paths and env variables that are LTSP related.
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| 13:18 | Does that make sense?
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| 13:23 | <alkisg> sbalneav: how would the library be used in a non-ltsp environment?
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| 13:23 | E.g. could it be used with gdm/
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| 13:23 | ?
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| 13:24 | <sbalneav> Yes, in theory
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| 13:24 | Keep in mind that the second piece of the puzzle, once the pam bit's completed
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| 13:24 | is an nss module, that uses the socket created by the pam module to do info lookups.
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| 13:25 | *IN THEORY*, you could actually use pam_sshlib and nss_sshlib to run a full desktop instead of, say, LDAP.
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| 13:27 | Just have one box that you add regular users to, then so long as it's running an ssh server, boom, it's your "enterprise database"
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| 13:27 | handling groups, users and passwords.
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| 13:27 | I'm thinking one of the other thin client solutions out there may find it useful,
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| 13:28 | Or perhaps some other use I haven't thought of.
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| 13:29 | <ogra_ac> well, the plan was to use the lib with light dm
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| 13:29 | so with modifications to gdm it should be possible to use it there too
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| 13:30 | <alkisg> It sounds very powerful and useful indeed. It can be used to provide an easy to setup school-server, while still using users-admin etc
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| 13:33 | <Lifeboy> Thanks alkisg, I made all the changes and rebooted a client and getltspcfg -a showed the exact entries in lts.conf
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| 13:34 | I will test the printer tomorrow once the client is powered on again, but I think it should work now.
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| 13:35 | <sbalneav> So, then it makes sense to make it a "project" on it's own, with it's own env vars, etc., and less "LTSP" specific.
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| 13:36 | <alkisg> Yup, it makes sense
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| 13:44 | <sbalneav> OK, that's the way I'll proceed!
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| 13:49 | If you'd all like to see the work that's been done...
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| 13:49 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sbalneav/ltsp/libpam-sshauth/changes/20?start_revid=20
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| 14:36 | * Kyle__ shrugs | |
| 14:38 | <evil_root> http://bit.ly/d7Ha15
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| 15:15 | <staffencasa> Could someone help me out? I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on a new server and installed LTSP, then I copied over /opt/ltsp/i386 from an existing server and tried to chroot in and get "/bin/bash: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected. Any suggestions?
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| 15:15 | <abeehc> build a clean chroot
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| 15:15 | <staffencasa> After i installed LTSP, i ran a "sudo ltsp-build-client" then removed it and put in my copy from the other server. Is that not okay to do?
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| 15:16 | <abeehc> nope, not a good idea
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| 15:16 | at least, i assume your old chroot is from and older ubuntu dist
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| 15:16 | <staffencasa> no, same
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| 15:16 | <abeehc> in any case, not such a good plan I don't think
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| 15:16 | <staffencasa> I put a lot of work into it, is there no way to use it?
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| 15:22 | <alkisg> staffencasa: ltsp-build-client builds a chroot. You also copied a chroot. Which of the two you now have, and which one do you want to use?
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| 15:23 | <staffencasa> I created the server, built a client, but then backed that up and copied over one I had created on another server. So now I'm trying to use the one I copied over
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| 15:23 | it works great on another system and I wanted to use it on a new server
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| 15:23 | <alkisg> OK. Is that copied chroot from a 10.10 server? And, the same arch? (i386)?
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| 15:23 | <staffencasa> yes
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| 15:23 | and yes
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| 15:24 | <alkisg> OK. And sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 tells you the problem about bash?
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| 15:24 | <staffencasa> yep.
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| 15:24 | <alkisg> How did you copy the chroot?
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| 15:25 | <staffencasa> I tar'd it up sans the proc, media, mnt, and dev folders
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| 15:25 | those folders I just created new empty ones
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| 15:25 | <alkisg> Did you also copy the /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img?
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| 15:25 | <staffencasa> no
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> what does this tell you? sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 ls
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| 15:26 | <staffencasa> it shows me the folders in /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> and this gets you a shell? sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 /bin/bash
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| 15:28 | <staffencasa> no, I get the /bin/bash error again
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> what about this? sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 /bin/sh
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| 15:28 | <staffencasa> I get a shell there
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| 15:29 | '(# Blinking cursor)
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| 15:29 | <alkisg> OK, exit the shell.
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| 15:29 | (ctrl+d)
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| 15:29 | <staffencasa> k
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| 15:29 | <alkisg> ls -lha /opt/ltsp/i386/bin/bash
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| 15:29 | <alkisg> Is that a normal executable about 800k in size?
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| 15:30 | <staffencasa> I get /opt/ltsp/i386/bin/bash with root:root: and -rwxr-xr-x
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| 15:30 | 4.5 MB
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| 15:30 | <alkisg> 4.5 MB is too large
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| 15:30 | There's something wrong with it
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| 15:31 | Try `vi /opt/ltsp/i386/bin/bash` or `strings /opt/ltsp/i386/bin/bash` or `file /opt/ltsp/i386/bin/bash` etc to see what it is
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| 15:31 | (erm I have lucid, but I don't suppose it's 4.5 in maverick...)
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| 15:31 | (check your /bin/bash outside of your chroot to verify)
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| 15:32 | <staffencasa> I looked at the client it originally built and that file is 784K
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> So it's probably an error in copying
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| 15:32 | <staffencasa> I'll try replacing that file
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> You may also have other broken files though
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| 15:32 | Check again your transferring method
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| 15:33 | <staffencasa> replacing that from the old one worked
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| 15:33 | <alkisg> Right, but I'd try to find out *why* it was broken, before putting that chroot to production :)
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| 15:34 | <staffencasa> yeah
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| 15:34 | is that typically a link?
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| 15:35 | it's not a link, so I guess no
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| 15:35 | <alkisg> No
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| 15:38 | <staffencasa> thanks a ton alkisg!
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| 15:38 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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| 15:50 | <staffencasa> alkisg, I think I know what I did wrong, when I tar'd it up, I think i reversed the source/destination fields
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| 15:51 | it failed, so I went back and looked at the syntax and corrected it
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| 15:51 | <vagrantc> ouch
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| 15:51 | <staffencasa> tell me about it
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| 15:52 | <vagrantc> that could potentially damage the system it was run on...
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| 15:52 | * vagrantc has botched that a couple times | |
| 15:53 | <staffencasa> so far all I can tell is that one file was wacky
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| 15:53 | we actually were able to figure it out because we could untar /bin/bash
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| 15:54 | and it extracted my /bin folder
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| 16:03 | <Kyle__> Ugh. I can't believe I just lost 4 hours of work via scp typo.
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| 16:07 | <sbalneav> Well, at least it wasn't sudo rm -rf /
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| 16:07 | That would likely be more work.
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| 16:07 | <Kyle__> sbalneav: Nope, but it was a presentation I'm supposed to give in two hours.
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| 16:08 | <sbalneav> That's a problem.
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| 16:09 | <Kyle__> Yea. It's for a grad class. More or less a short talk on web-crawlers.
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| 19:16 | <sbalneav> Whoohoo.
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| 19:16 | sbalneav@feniks:~/Source/bzr/libpam-sshauth/src$ ./pamtest flarp sbalneav
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| 19:16 | Trying to authenticate <sbalneav> for service <flarp>.
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| 19:16 | Server is unknown. Do you trust this host key?
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| 19:16 | Type 'yes' to continue: yes
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| 19:16 | Do you want to save this new key in known_hosts?
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| 19:16 | Type 'yes' to continue: yes
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| 19:16 | Password:
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| 19:16 | Authentication successful.
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| 19:16 | open session successful.
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| 19:16 | Env PAM_SSHLIB_SOCKET = /tmp/pam_sshlib_9824_oin.ath.cx
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| 19:16 | Press any key to continue
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| 19:16 | Exit request sent.
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| 19:16 | close session successful.
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| 19:16 | Press any key to continue
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| 19:16 | The part where it's asking about the host key?
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| 19:17 | That's done via pam prompts and responses.
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| 19:17 | So, if you were in gdm, the message under the prompt would say:
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| 19:17 | Server is unknown. Do you trust this host key?
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| 19:17 | and the thing that normally says "Login:" or "Password:" beside the input box would say:
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| 19:17 | Type 'yes' to continue: yes
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| 19:18 | err, well minus the last yes
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| 19:18 | that was me typing it.
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| 19:51 | <highvoltage> sbalneav: \o/
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| 19:52 | sbalneav: so next is "Swipe finger to log on"? :p
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| 19:59 | <sbalneav> Well, that's the whole point with pamifying things.
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| 20:00 | If we get ourselves authing via pam, smart cards, finger swipes, etc. all become, in theory, possible.
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| 20:00 | The pam module's getting big. I'm up over 900 lines of code.
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| 20:01 | I expect it to double by the time I get all the features in that we want.
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