IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 August 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:30 | <BlackDark> Hi, is that a way (config file, or so) to display a bitmap while the terminal is booting ?
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| 07:30 | for instance, while the terminal starting from the nfs stage, there is only a cursor on the screen
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| 08:15 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:15 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:15 | <sbalneav> Morning jammcq
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| 08:16 | <jammcq> sbalneav: what's shakin ?
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| 08:17 | <sbalneav> Seeing if ogra's around. I think I squashed a few bugs last night, I want him and vagrantc to check.
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| 08:17 | One of the long standing bugs we had was that the chroot was hardcoded in a lot of places to /opt/ltsp.
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| 08:19 | fgiraldeu's building chroots in /opt/ltsp/i386-dev, and this breaks several of the scripts
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| 08:19 | so I sat down for 2 hours last night and generalised all the ltsp-update-* scripts.
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| 08:38 | <EXP2> how you add a local scanner in ltsp5?
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| 08:41 | <sbalneav> EXP2: You should be able to chroot to /opt/ltsp/i386, and apt-get install saned, I beleive
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| 08:42 | either sane or sane-utils
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| 08:59 | <EXP2> http://pastebin.com/d7d404a26
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| 08:59 | i got this errors
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| 08:59 | it can't find sources for installation
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| 09:06 | it has something to do with dns...
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| 09:08 | <sbalneav> Something's whacky with your chroot.
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| 09:09 | <ltsppbot> "sbalneav" pasted "chroot sane" (21 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/269
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| 09:09 | <sbalneav> It's there in mine
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| 09:15 | Going up for breakfast
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| 09:16 | <ltsppbot> "EXP2" pasted "root@SARA-LTSP:/# aptitude sea" (11 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/270
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| 09:25 | <EXP2> anyone can help with this?
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| 09:38 | <EXP2> ogra, are you here?
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| 09:41 | <DeathRaven> I've a question pertaining to LTSP on Ubuntu Feisty. I've installed it, I can get the client to boot into it... but none of the logins work on the client. I've tried swapping to the console on Ctrl-Alt-F1, it gives me the login prompts, but none of the username password combos work. I know the usernames exist on the server. Any ideas?
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| 09:45 | <EXP2> what does your lts.conf look like?
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| 09:46 | <DeathRaven> A review of .xsession-errors indicates: x session started for
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| 09:46 | sorry bout that...
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| 09:47 | um...I'm drawing a blank as to where it's located, now.
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| 09:51 | <lmveloso> Hi ogra, I just sent you a project status email, take a look when you can.
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| 09:55 | <DeathRaven> [default]
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| 09:55 | SOUND=True
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| 09:55 | LOCALDEV=True
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| 09:55 | NBD_SWAP=True
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| 09:55 | SYSLOG=server
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| 10:10 | <EXP2> how you can install local scanner in ltsp5?
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| 10:19 | <BlackDark> question regarding the terminal sold by disklessworkstation, I've 2 1220, how can I enter in the bios to adujst something ?
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| 10:32 | <EXP3> anyone used local scanner with ltsp5?
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| 10:47 | <BlackDark> with my term 1220, when I run glxinfo, Xorg crahes, any idea how I could solve that ?
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| 10:47 | my server runs ubuntu edgy
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| 10:47 | and I followed that howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
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| 10:48 | however, I didn't recompile drm and stuff like that, the howto says the 3d should work out of the box with edgy
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| 10:48 | any idea ?
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| 12:51 | <BlackDark> back
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| 12:58 | any ideas why glxinfo crashes xorg ?
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| 13:06 | ok I adjusted something, it's a bit better but
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| 13:07 | I noticed the video card has 32 megs in shared ram, however I setted only 16 megs in lts.conf
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| 13:07 | I can now launch glxinfo one time
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| 13:07 | the second time it still crashing xorg
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| 13:07 | direct rendering is not enabled
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| 13:08 | so any idea what I could do to enable the 3d on the via unichrome chipset ?
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| 13:34 | <Atzusac> hi all
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| 13:35 | i'm trying to configure a thin client using XDMCP, but after connecting X the login doesn't appear, and the console shows:
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| 13:35 | Auth name: MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1
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| 13:35 | AUDIT: Sat Aug 11 20:20:25 2007: 15811 Xorg: client 1 rejected from 192.168.1.2
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| 13:35 | Fatal server error:
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| 13:35 | XDMCP fatal error: Session failed Session 509168002 failed for display
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| 13:35 | 192.168.1.130:0: cannot open display
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| 13:35 | anybody can help ?
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| 13:37 | <BlackDark> did you enabled XDMCP on your server ?
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| 13:37 | it's disable by default in gdm.conf
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| 13:38 | s/disable/disabled/
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| 13:38 | <Atzusac> sure, btw i'm using kde :P
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| 14:06 | <johnny> hmm.. so why do people use kdm or gdm for ltsp?
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| 14:06 | old ltsp versions? or any other reason?
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| 14:51 | <frejolito> hi people !
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| 14:51 | exist this chennel in spanish ?
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| 14:51 | channel
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| 14:51 | <johnny> i don't think so
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| 14:54 | <Q-FUNK> hm.
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| 16:10 | <JonNoob> Please help.. My ltsp clients won't login. The loginscreen disapers for a few seconds and goes to black and the returns. Auth.log shows the user being authorized, and a session is being started.
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| 16:16 | <lns> JonNoob, have you tried running 'ltsp-update-sshkeys' ?
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| 16:16 | i know that can happen if you change IP information and the ssh keys don't match
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| 16:17 | <JonNoob> oh.. that is very possible... Just trying it now
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| 16:18 | <lns> not sure if you have to restart the client(s) or not..maybe do it just to be safe, but i think you can just try logging in after re-starting ldm
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| 16:18 | <JonNoob> I am rebooting the client now...
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| 16:19 | <lns> what distro are you using?
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| 16:19 | <JonNoob> edubuntu feisty
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| 16:19 | it didn't help :-(
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| 16:19 | <lns> cool
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| 16:19 | did you change ip information?
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| 16:20 | <JonNoob> yes. running 172.16.0.0/255.255.0.0 network
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| 16:20 | <lns> hmm
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| 16:20 | has your client(s) ever worked?
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| 16:21 | logging in that is
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| 16:21 | <JonNoob> yes.. they have..
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| 16:21 | <lns> so is changing your ip info the only thing that has changed between when they worked and now?
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| 16:22 | <JonNoob> I think so..
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| 16:22 | <lns> you sure you've changed it everywhere that is required?
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| 16:22 | <JonNoob> not completely sure :-)
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| 16:22 | <lns> lol
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| 16:22 | ok
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| 16:23 | <JonNoob> Will you look at my conf files?
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| 16:23 | <lns> i'd recommend searching around for where it is you need to change all of the IP info.
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| 16:24 | <JonNoob> tried but couldn't find it... But I better try again :-)
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| 16:24 | <lns> is it acting as a dhcp server too?
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| 16:24 | <JonNoob> yep
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| 16:25 | I wanted to make it use reservations for my clients, but it wouldn't boot with that conf.
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| 16:26 | <lns> was the previous ip in the same subnet as your dhcp scope?
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| 16:27 | as in, have you changed your dhcpd.conf?
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| 16:27 | in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf (or whatever it is)
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| 16:28 | <JonNoob> only changed dhcpd.conf to change ip. Do I need to change it somewhere else? Original ip was 192.168.0.X
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| 16:28 | <lns> how bout /etc/hosts
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| 16:28 | or /etc/network/interfaces
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| 16:29 | and possibly /etc/resolv.conf (if applicable)
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| 16:29 | 192.168.0.x is generally a /24 (255.255.255.0) subnet as to where 172.16.x.x is a /16 (255.255.0.0) - you need to make sure this is reflected everywhere as well
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| 16:30 | <JonNoob> did hosts, interfaces but not resolv.conf.
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| 16:30 | i only have my windows DNS listed there (nameserver 172.16.3.1)
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| 16:32 | <lns> make sure your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf reflects everything
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| 16:32 | and re-run ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 16:33 | <JonNoob> looks right to me...
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| 16:34 | ran ltsp-update-sshkeys again and rebooting client
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| 16:34 | <lns> k...as far as i can tell ltsp-update-sshkeys is the only thing you have to do
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| 16:35 | i've experienced ldm weirdnesses like that before too
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| 16:35 | usually it's that or i'm just typing in something wrong ;)
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| 16:35 | <JonNoob> well could have been that, but i tried several accounts
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| 16:36 | <lns> if none of that works, try the desperate action of rebooting the server and rebuilding the chroot
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| 16:36 | <JonNoob> The strange thing is that the user can login from NX
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| 16:36 | <lns> though i'm sure it probably isn't the problem, it couldn't hurt
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| 16:36 | <JonNoob> Nomachine NX that is
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| 16:36 | <lns> k.. well its definitely related to ltsp then
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| 16:37 | how fast is the server?
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| 16:37 | <JonNoob> it is very fast... 2xdualcore amd cpu, 4 gigs ram
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| 16:37 | only one client for now :-)
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| 16:40 | <lns> hehe
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| 16:40 | well rebuilding the chroot won't be a big issue then
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| 16:40 | i'd try that if i were you just to try it
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| 16:41 | rm -rf /opt/ltsp;ltsp-build-client
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| 16:41 | probably ltsp-build-client --arch i386 if its a AMD64 install
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| 16:43 | <JonNoob> Trying it now... It is not an AM64 install though it is 64bit processors.. I was told flash and jav was buggy in AMD64 version
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| 16:44 | <johnny> what hostname should show up in the ldm
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| 16:44 | down in the lower right hand corner
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| 16:45 | <JonNoob> hostname? only have ip there...
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| 16:45 | <johnny> oh.. i have a hostname, but it shows the server's hostname
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| 16:45 | <JonNoob> ok... Maybe i have the servers hostname too. Can't check right now...
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| 16:46 | <johnny> i'm using dnsmasq and assigning host names based on mac address
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| 16:46 | <JonNoob> I don't know anything about that... Sorry
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| 16:46 | <johnny> was trying to use the the patched ldm for autologin
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| 16:48 | but that's not working atm sadly
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| 16:48 | just trying to isolate why
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| 16:54 | <JonNoob> lns: didn't help a bit....
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| 17:04 | <JonNoob> I solved it :-) I have installed Sabayon(and forgot about it). It demands that every user have an profile...
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| 17:09 | i have an fuse quistion. I have integrated my users from my AD with my new Edubuntu Feisty install. My problem is that the users are stored in my AD, so I don't have a local profile. Without an local profile I can't choose "Allow use of fuse filesystems like LTSP Thin Client blockdevices" in users and groups.
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| 17:28 | <JonNoob> OH NO.... I F..... up my hosts file, so now I can't use sudo anymore.... How will I be able to edit hosts without usingsudo????
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| 17:51 | <johnny> i'm unable to login via console
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| 17:51 | when ldm login works, what could be some causes of that?
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| 17:58 | brb
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| 18:04 | <BlackDark> I'd like to deny a module to be loaded in the xorg.conf config file, can I do that with lts.conf ?
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| 18:24 | <johnny> no idea
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| 18:54 | <johnny> is there any other chat rooms where ltsp folks hang out (other than #edubuntu)
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| 19:28 | <johnny> i can't tell where things are supposed to get logged to for ltsp clients
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| 19:28 | on the client chroot, or on the server?
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| 19:59 | <johnny> dead....
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| 20:15 | <sbalneav> evening all
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| 20:15 | Anyone need any help?
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| 20:16 | <johnny> howdy sbalneav :)
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| 20:16 | i do :)
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| 20:16 | <sbalneav> What's your issue?
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| 20:16 | <johnny> well first questions
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| 20:16 | 1. should i be able to login to console if i switch to vt1
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| 20:17 | 2. what hostname should show up in ldm
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| 20:17 | <sbalneav> 1) no
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| 20:17 | <johnny> in relation to #1, login via ldm does work
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| 20:17 | oh.. i was told yes before .. guess not :)
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| 20:17 | like 2 weeks aqo
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| 20:18 | <sbalneav> 2) Usually the server's name you created the chroot on
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| 20:18 | <johnny> ok.. cool
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| 20:18 | i just wanted to make sure that was all well
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| 20:18 | <sbalneav> You can, if you set root's password in the chroot.
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| 20:18 | But normal users, no.
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| 20:18 | <johnny> currently i'm using ubuntu
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| 20:18 | not edubuntu
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| 20:18 | <sbalneav> Makes no diff
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| 20:19 | <johnny> i'm trying to make that ldm auto login patch of to work
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| 20:19 | the one by gideon romm
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| 20:19 | but it just keeps refreshing the screen
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| 20:19 | <sbalneav> What do you mean?
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| 20:20 | <johnny> i get a black screen with an X cursor, and then it blanks, then it comes back to the X cursor, and on and on
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| 20:20 | <sbalneav> ls -la /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/ldm
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| 20:21 | <johnny> -rwxrwxr-x 1 root root 10130 2007-07-26 22:03 /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/sbin/ldm
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| 20:21 | <sbalneav> Please paste a copy of your lts.conf file
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| 20:22 | To the pastebot
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| 20:22 | !pastebot
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| 20:22 | <ltspbot`> sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 20:23 | <ltsppbot> "johnny" pasted "lts.conf" (10 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/271
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| 20:24 | <johnny> well currently the autologin stuff is commented out
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| 20:24 | cuz it was causing problems as i mentioned
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| 20:25 | <sbalneav> What happens if you put the original ldm back in place?
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| 20:25 | <johnny> well autologin wouldn't work then? :)
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| 20:25 | normal login works with this modified one
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| 20:25 | so why would i put it back?
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| 20:25 | <sbalneav> So, normal login works on the modified one?
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| 20:25 | <johnny> maybe i wasn't clear enough on that. sorry
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| 20:25 | yes
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| 20:26 | <sbalneav> Ah, yeah, you weren't clear.
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| 20:26 | <johnny> they are thinking i'm slacking off cuz i'm not getting this going (altho is volunteer)
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| 20:27 | :(
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| 20:27 | i had a python coder look at it, and it all looked fine to him
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| 20:27 | <sbalneav> You're using a pipe.
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| 20:27 | <johnny> that's what it says to do iirc?
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| 20:27 | in the code
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| 20:27 | <sbalneav> What happens if you just use a fixed username and password?
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| 20:27 | without the pipe?
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| 20:27 | <johnny> aha.. good idea..
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| 20:28 | hmm.. guess i might have to kick somebody off a computer
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| 20:28 | brb
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| 20:28 | oh also.. the directx option doesn't work standalone
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| 20:28 | i mean, if that is the only enabled option
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| 20:28 | only mentioning it in case it is related
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| 20:30 | <sbalneav> What makes you think it doesnt?
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| 20:30 | <johnny> that it doesn't work? cuz i get the same effect i mentioned earlier
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| 20:30 | if it is uncommented
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| 20:30 | <sbalneav> DIRECTX doesn't help with login
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| 20:31 | it only makes the connection faster by avoiding encryption
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| 20:31 | and "hostname|" isn't going to help you too much for autologin, since all your terminals will think they have the same hostname.
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| 20:58 | <johnny> sbalneav, it worked
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| 20:58 | <sbalneav> hostname| isn't going to work for you anyway
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| 20:59 | <johnny> but sbalneav, here's what said it would
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| 20:59 | http://www.mail-archive.com/edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com/msg01210.html
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| 20:59 | from gadi himself
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| 20:59 | the quoted message at least
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| 20:59 | <sbalneav> Yeah?
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| 21:00 | Try running hostname from two of your terminals.
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| 21:00 | 2 different ones.
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| 21:00 | <johnny> they do say the server hostname, but they do get their hostname from dhcp
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| 21:00 | so.. there must be a way to force it through
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| 21:01 | <sbalneav> How many terminals do you have?
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| 21:02 | <johnny> 4 atm
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| 21:02 | <sbalneav> You'll have an easier time setting up this:
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| 21:02 | [00:MA:CA:DD:RE:SS]
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| 21:03 | LDM_USERNAME="term1"
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| 21:03 | LDM_PASSWORD="term1pass"
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| 21:03 | [11:MA:CA:DD:RE:SS]
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| 21:03 | LDM_USERNAME="term2"
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| 21:03 | etc
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| 21:03 | <johnny> yeah.. i suppose :(
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| 21:04 | <sbalneav> do you what gadi suggests, you need to assign static addresses and names in dhcpd.conf anyway.
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| 21:04 | <johnny> but it seemed like it should work by gadi himself :(
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| 21:04 | what's what i have
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| 21:04 | it says the proper hostname right before it loads the kernel
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| 21:05 | err s/what's/thats/
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| 21:05 | <sbalneav> What does your dhcpd.conf file look like?
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| 21:07 | <johnny> i'm using dnsmasq
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| 21:07 | not dhcpd
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| 21:07 | <sbalneav> Can't help you then.
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| 21:07 | I don't know anything about dnsmasq
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| 21:08 | <johnny> dnsmasq is awesme
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| 21:09 | awesome*
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| 21:09 | <sbalneav> Except when it's not working for you, as in passing the hostname down.
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| 21:09 | Like what you need.
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| 21:10 | Anyway, awesome or not, everyone involved with ltsp uses the stock dhcp3-server
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| 21:10 | <johnny> now i have something else to go on then
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| 21:10 | <sbalneav> so you're going to have to solve that one yourself.
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| 21:10 | Another option is just to write your own mini command to generate a userid.
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| 21:10 | Say, one based on the last octet of the ip address
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| 21:11 | So if you hand out ip addresses in the range of 192.168.0.1 -> .253
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| 21:11 | <johnny> aha.. true
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| 21:11 | <sbalneav> you could write a few-lines long shell script that would grab the last number, and put the word "host" or "term" in front of it.
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| 21:12 | <johnny> well i think i can prolly fix this issue
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| 21:12 | now that i have a better idea of what is wrong
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| 21:12 | <sbalneav> so: host1 ... host128... host253
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| 21:12 | <johnny> it clicked
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| 21:12 | well they are all named after famous folks in the uhmm.. field
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| 21:22 | <sbalneav> brb
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| 21:49 | <spackle> anybody have pointers for audio in flash player on edubuntu?
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| 21:50 | Do the classic ltsp tricks work? like linking the library and creating the socket directory?
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| 21:50 | (they don't seem to be working for me just now.. ;) )
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| 21:52 | <sbalneav> spackle: Have you installed libflashsupport?
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| 21:53 | <spackle> let me see...
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| 21:53 | hi sbalneav !
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| 21:57 | <ibt> how do i install ltsp-gutsy in feisty?
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| 21:58 | <sbalneav> Not recommended :)
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| 21:58 | <spackle> sbalneav: I don't see it, is that an ubuntu package or in a package or do I need to go grap it?
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| 21:58 | <sbalneav> We're in heavy development right at the moment, some things aren't guarenteed to work.
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| 21:58 | <ibt> sbalneav: that's fine. i'd just like to know how to test it
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| 21:58 | <sbalneav> ibt: Install gutsy
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| 21:59 | <mistik1> sbalneav: have you seen it? http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/10/2148253
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| 21:59 | <sbalneav> Yeah, saw it.
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| 21:59 | yawn.
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| 22:00 | I mean, it's great news, but really, I stopped caring about that a year after SCO came forward with the lawsuit.
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| 22:00 | <mistik1> yea, but its good to see
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| 22:00 | <sbalneav> Sure, but it was a forgone conclusion for a long time.
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| 22:00 | It's just been made "official"
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| 22:00 | <ibt> sbalneav: know where i can read about installing gutsy?
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| 22:01 | or well, is this 'tribe1' stuff what i want?
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| 22:01 | <sbalneav> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe4
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| 22:02 | hot off the presses
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| 22:02 | <ibt> ahh, yeah, okay
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| 22:03 | <sbalneav> mistik1: Linux growth never really faltered due to SCO. What is nice about this decision is that it places the Unix copyrights with a GPL friendly company.
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| 22:03 | Now, if Novell was SMART, what they'd do is put this to bed once and for all.
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| 22:03 | <spackle> sbalneav: do you have any concerns about their new MS relationship?
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| 22:04 | <sbalneav> spackle: For linux, no.
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| 22:04 | <spackle> how would they put it to bed?
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| 22:04 | <sbalneav> Let me ask you a question: any company that MS has entered into a partnership with, has that company ever existed 5 years later? :)
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| 22:05 | GPL or BSD license Unix.
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| 22:05 | <mistik1> lol
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| 22:05 | <spackle> ah
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| 22:05 | and any company that explicitly goes head to head with MS the same thing is nearly true.
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| 22:05 | Borland who?
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| 22:06 | Google is stepping very carefully.
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| 22:06 | <sbalneav> Now, they'd have a LOT of people to sign off on, since a lot of companies and people have had their fingers in the Unix source code. But I think it'd be doable. Novell's got lawyers, and it's just an excercise in tracking things down, and getting consent.
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| 22:07 | <monteslu> eclipse really killed borland
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| 22:08 | <sbalneav> However, what is more likely to happen is for things to continue on status quo.
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| 22:08 | <monteslu> well, after microsoft severly wounded it
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| 22:08 | <spackle> monteslu: more like eclipse buried the coffin.
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| 22:08 | <monteslu> yeah probably
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| 22:08 | <sbalneav> That Unix patents/procedure/methods continue to be used as a hammer to cow people/companies into line
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| 22:09 | <monteslu> a win for novell is still a loss
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| 22:09 | <sbalneav> Du mußt Amboß oder Hammer sein
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| 22:10 | <monteslu> da
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| 22:10 | nine ?
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| 22:10 | <sbalneav> "You must be either anvil or hammer"
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| 22:10 | Goethe
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| 22:11 | <monteslu> oh, then "da"
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| 22:13 | <sbalneav> Gah, Ollie's not here to see me quote German.
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| 22:15 | <monteslu> wine on centos sucks ass
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| 22:15 | didn't any check that all the fonts are missing?
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| 22:16 | anyone i mean
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| 22:16 | <spackle> they probably can't legally include some
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| 22:18 | <sbalneav> Well, you can always legally include anything, if you can get the party to agree to it :)
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| 22:18 | If the party can't, or won't, then no.
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| 22:18 | If that's the case, they should, IMHO release as much as they can.
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| 22:19 | Two of the biggest contributors to Unix would be IBM and Sun.
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| 22:19 | Both of who would benefit by a GPL'd Unix, as they'd then be able to snag good bits from Unix, and good bits from Linux.
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| 22:20 | In fact, what could potentially happen is a single "Unix" standard, of a merged Unix/Linux.
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| 22:21 | <sbalneav> Then you'd have "One True Alternative" (r)(tm) to Windows, and you'd really have some room to compete.
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| 22:21 | <rjune> !s
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| 22:21 | <ltspbot`> rjune: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 22:21 | <sbalneav> Hey rjune
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| 22:21 | <rjune> one true alternative?
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| 22:22 | <sbalneav> release Unix, or as much of it as possible, as GPL
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| 22:22 | GPL Unix merged with GPL Linux, add GPL Java.
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| 22:22 | Like I say, it's a fantasy.
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| 22:23 | <spackle> they probably can't legally include some fonts (sorry)
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| 22:24 | <rjune> we have GPL java, sort of
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| 22:31 | <mistik1> sbalneav: It is a nice fantasy though
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| 22:35 | <rjune> mistik1!
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| 22:35 | http://home.bravegnuworld.com/~rjune/bmw/
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| 22:36 | <spackle> sbalneav: there would be good points for sure, but there would be bad points to another windows-like monoculture
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| 22:37 | <rjune> like it would stay a monoculture for long
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| 22:37 | <spackle> ;)
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| 22:38 | <rjune> mistik1: whaddya think?
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| 22:38 | <mistik1> rjune: need to steam clean that engine buddy
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| 22:39 | <rjune> that's what jen said.
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| 22:39 | <mistik1> I like that model though
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| 22:39 | <rjune> that engine needs to come apart
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| 22:39 | <mistik1> uh oh
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| 22:40 | <rjune> I'm afraid I'm going to find a piston wedged into the cylinder wall
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| 22:41 | she no run at the moment
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| 22:41 | <mistik1> Are you gonna re-pipe it
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| 22:41 | oh
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| 22:42 | <monteslu> rjune!
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| 22:43 | <rjune> monteslu:
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| 22:44 | <monteslu> i switched the school over to edubuntu
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| 22:44 | ran out of time, maybe I'll be back to fedora next summer
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| 22:45 | <mistik1> rjune: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-3-Series-1979-BMW-E21-320i-rare-rust-free-blue-beauty_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6007QQihZ014QQitemZ330154583238QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
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| 22:54 | <sbalneav> monteslu: Ran out of time? When does school start?
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| 22:56 | <rjune> within a week most places around here
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| 23:03 | <sbalneav> huh, School doesn't start until week after labour day here in Canada.
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| 23:24 | <monteslu> school starts here on tuesday
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| 23:25 | I really wanted a fedora based muekow, but I bet it doesn't happen until fedora 9 or so :(
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| 23:34 | <sbalneav> Did you find out if anyone in the Fedora camp is currently working on it
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| 23:35 | <monteslu> Eric said something was in the works, but no one on the dev list has mentioned it in over a month
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| 23:36 | I gotta get on there and stir the pot some
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| 23:37 | i think rjune had the last post on the subject
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