IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 21 June 2011 (all times are UTC)
| 00:12 | <fossala> I asked this last night but then fell asleep so I don't know if anyone answered. Does ltsp work on Debian GNU/KFreeBSD because there is a pkg for it and zfs is the best filesystem.
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| 02:16 | <mrcarrot> fossala: if there is a pkg for it, then there are enough chances that it is worth a try
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| 02:20 | <fossala> mrcarrot:I will give it a go then.
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| 05:30 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 05:49 | <andygraybeal> mgariepy, morning! morning everyone!
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| 06:43 | <highvoltage> good morning :)
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| 07:40 | <andygraybeal> slow day today :)
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| 07:40 | so far atleast
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| 07:40 | er, i mean in the channel of course
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| 07:50 | <fossala> andygraybeal: It must mean everyone in the world is running LTSP and its working perfectly. :D
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| 07:52 | <andygraybeal> :))
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| 07:52 | mine sure is
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| 08:05 | <abeehc> lol
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| 08:25 | <tavo> hello there, anybody here?
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| 08:27 | <alkisg> "59 people in room"
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| 08:27 | Hehe
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| 08:30 | <abeehc> i was gonna say
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| 08:30 | that's my count too
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| 09:23 | <Dantix> hi all! I'm working on ltsp session and want to issue a vpn connection, so I've setup a new one, but I can figure out how to fire that connection.. I haven't any network related icon on my panels as I have on my netbook where I can fire the vpn connection from.
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| 09:24 | <alkisg> Dantix: you're using your netbook as an ltsp client? thin client or fat?
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| 09:25 | Ah misread what you said about the laptop. OK, still, is this a thin client or fat? And, distro/version?
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| 09:25 | <Dantix> alkisg: thin
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| 09:25 | Ubuntu 11.04
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| 09:26 | <Dantix> thin and PXE
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| 09:28 | <alkisg> Dantix: try running nm-connection-editor from the command line
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| 09:28 | <Gnoze5> hi
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| 09:29 | <alkisg> The nm-applet seems to not like being launched twice for the same PC
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| 09:29 | <Gnoze5> alkisg o/
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| 09:29 | <alkisg> Hi Gnoze5
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| 09:30 | <Dantix> alkisg: yep, it opens Network Connection, there was I've vreated the new vpn connection, but there isn't a way to launch it.
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| 09:31 | <alkisg> I guess that you either need a command line way to launch it, or maybe to change policykit settings so that nm-applet can be launched by remote users (like ltsp users)
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| 09:31 | <Dantix> right, I'll do some investigation on your advice, thanks
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| 09:36 | <alkisg> Something like this should work: http://osdir.com/ml/networkmanager-list/2010-11/msg00148.html
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| 09:37 | You can examine dbus with the d-feet application
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| 09:45 | <alkisg> And here if you want the policykit method instead: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=63576
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| 09:49 | <Dantix> alkisg: so kind! thank you very much
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| 11:03 | <Gnoze5> Dantix alkisg is the man..
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| 11:31 | <Dantix> agree that
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| 11:52 | <fossala> How do multiple computers use the same /dev /var /tmp in the chroot?
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| 11:55 | <vagrantc> fossala: they mount their own in a tmpfs
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| 11:55 | either through some type of unionfs, or through bind-mounts.
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| 11:55 | <fossala> Thought so, Thanks for confirming.
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| 11:56 | <Dantix> o/
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| 13:14 | <TheMatrix3000_> crap
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| 13:14 | what file does the ip_append 0 go in?
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| 13:23 | question
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| 13:23 | why is this happending
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| 13:23 | http://screencast.com/t/c7EiYNum
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| 13:23 | happening?
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| 13:23 | i started a vmware session as an ltsp client
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| 13:23 | using network boot
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| 13:23 | and it brings up a black screen with a white box after the ubuntu login screen
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| 13:33 | http://screencast.com/t/4w2mjVu94
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| 13:40 | <TheMatrix3000_> alkisg can you help
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| 13:40 | http://screencast.com/t/4w2mjVu94
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| 13:40 | before that i was getting http://screencast.com/t/c7EiYNum
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| 13:45 | <alkisg> TheMatrix3000_: check if you're affected by the nbd-proxy problems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/589034
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| 13:50 | <TheMatrix3000_> so if i remove or set nbd_proxy=false
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| 13:50 | then all should work
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| 13:50 | <alkisg> Which distro/version?
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| 13:50 | <TheMatrix3000_> what is nbd_proxy
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| 13:50 | 10.04 arch amd64 and i386
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| 13:50 | its a amd64 server
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| 13:50 | <alkisg> Then no, you need to download a script and run update-initramfs etc
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| 13:50 | Check the workaround in comment #13
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| 13:51 | <TheMatrix3000_> is this caused by some recent update?
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> No
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| 13:52 | <TheMatrix3000_> this is a fresh install of ltsp-server
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> It randomly affects installations, I don't know the exact source
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| 13:52 | <TheMatrix3000_> ah ok
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| 13:53 | <alkisg> But disabling it makes the problem go away
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| 13:53 | nbd-proxy is/was an effort to make nbd clients able to stay alive even if the server disconnects for a while, or even if the server is changed. But until now it appers it's not very stable.
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| 13:54 | <TheMatrix3000_> so why wouldnt nbd_proxy=false make it go away
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| 13:54 | <fossala> Sorry butting in but alkisg you are a gold to this IRC channel. Every time you help.
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| 13:54 | <alkisg> It was introduced in lucid afaik, and was disabled in natty, until it's more stable in the future
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| 13:55 | Thanks fossala
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| 13:55 | <TheMatrix3000_> so in 11.04 its disabled?
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| 13:55 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 13:56 | <TheMatrix3000_> would u recommend 11.04 ltsp?
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| 13:56 | <TheMatrix3000_> on a new ltsp build
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> I'm using 10.04 - that's all I can say :)
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| 13:56 | <TheMatrix3000_> haha
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> It really depends on each installation needs
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| 13:56 | <TheMatrix3000_> do i have to do a build-ltsp-image twice once without the --arch i386 and one without
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> Here we have teachers maintaining ltsp computer labs, so we're looking for stability
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| 13:57 | You never have to run ltsp-build-client or ltsp-update-image twice
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| 13:59 | <TheMatrix3000_> oh ok
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| 13:59 | <TheMatrix3000_> im debating weither to use 11.04 or not
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| 13:59 | lol
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| 13:59 | what's the benefits
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| 14:00 | nevermind
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| 14:00 | ill stick with 10.04
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| 14:00 | stability is important
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| 14:00 | lol
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| 14:01 | i wish i knew that bug
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| 14:01 | or why
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| 14:01 | it's a Pain in my ass
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| 14:02 | <alkisg> What bug? #589034 ?
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| 14:02 | <TheMatrix3000_> yea
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| 14:03 | <alkisg> I don't get what you mean. Do you mean that you can't follow the instructions I wrote in comment #13?
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| 14:03 | <TheMatrix3000_> oh, nvm i got it
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| 14:03 | so if i were on maverick i wouldnt need to do stesp 1 and 2
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| 14:03 | but because im on lucid i do
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| 14:04 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 14:05 | <TheMatrix3000_> i may as well add the ipappend=3 to the update-kernels.conf as well while i am at it shouldn't i
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| 14:05 | <alkisg> If you're using it, sure
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| 14:51 | <TheMatrix3000_> what does autoconf=dhcp do?
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| 14:57 | <TheMatrix3000_> i did get a message saying "chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 doesn't exist
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| 14:57 | ah crap
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| 14:57 | now i get this
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| 14:57 | http://screencast.com/t/mGnoJDeZXh3
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