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Channel log from 22 April 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:57 | <gnunux> hi
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| 04:05 | <davemir> Hello everyone
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| 04:07 | Someone could help create customers for ltsp server users?
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| 04:07 | please
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| 04:14 | <alkisg> davemir: create customers?! What does that mean?
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| 04:14 | You mean accounts?
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| 04:14 | distro/version?
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| 04:20 | <davemir> ubuntu 9.04 alternate
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| 04:22 | alkisg: I explain
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| 04:23 | alkisg: I am doing a project for my school
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| 04:24 | alkisg: I have installed ltsp-server with the alternate Ubuntu 9.4
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| 04:25 | alkisg: And now
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| 04:27 | alkisg: I want to create users to access the thin clients
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| 04:27 | alkisg: I understand now
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| 04:27 | <alkisg> davemir: system > settings > users accounts
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| 04:28 | You just create them on the server
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| 04:28 | like in any ubuntu system
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| 04:28 | There's nothing special for users in LTSP, they're normal users
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| 04:28 | (from the console it's called `users-admin` if you can't find it on the menus)
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| 04:29 | <davemir> eso lo tengo hecho
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| 04:30 | sorry
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| 04:31 | But what I want is that only things have to install the server
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| 04:32 | Lts.conf know anything?
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| 04:36 | <davemir> alkisg: you explain I've done
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| 04:36 | alkisg: But what I want is that only things have to install the server
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| 04:36 | <alkisg> davemir: sorry I don't understand what you're saying
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| 04:37 | You want to install programs or to create user accounts?
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| 04:37 | <davemir> alkisg: sorry my english my English is elementary
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| 04:38 | <davemir> alkisg: create user accounts
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| 04:39 | alkisg: but that only serves to thin clients
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| 04:39 | alkisg: understand?
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| 04:40 | <alkisg> davemir: you cannot do that in LTSP. The same users are used on the server and on the clients.
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| 04:41 | To create users, you just create them on the server like in any ubuntu machine: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/12.jpg
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| 04:41 | <davemir> alkisg: and lts.conf for serving?
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| 04:41 | <alkisg> No, you don't need lts.conf
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| 04:43 | <davemir> when used as the lts.conf?
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| 04:52 | alkisg: when used as the lts.conf?
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| 04:57 | <davemir> alkisg: but the idea is that all the documents saved in the thin client will be stored in terminal server
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| 05:07 | <davemir> alkisg: thanks for your help
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| 10:28 | <vbundi> !docs
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| 10:28 | <ltspbot`> vbundi: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 11:02 | <vbundi> does anyone else have to wait ~10 seconds for 'verifying password.....' to go through when logging in the LDM screen?
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| 11:05 | <komunista> hi all
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| 11:05 | <Gadi> vbundi: if you ssh to the server, does it take any time between entering password and getting a prompt?
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| 11:06 | <vbundi> nope
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| 11:09 | <Gadi> vbundi: if you set LOCAL_APPS=False , does it log in faster?
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| 11:10 | <vbundi> I'll try it now
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| 11:11 | nope
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| 11:58 | <johnny> hmm.. anybody used xubuntu in a fat client, while the host is gnome?
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| 11:58 | i'm confused, because it sure does look alot like gnome :)
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| 11:58 | it even has an "about gnome" panel
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| 11:58 | err option on the panel
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| 11:58 | <vbundi> really? heh
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| 11:59 | yeah I quite like Xubuntu
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| 11:59 | <johnny> on login it's using up almost all the memory @ 512
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| 11:59 | :(
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| 11:59 | <vbundi> I installed it on a PPC Ibook for someone once
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| 11:59 | what? that's weird... this ibook I put it on only had 256MB ram
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| 12:00 | I thought that was the whole idea of Xfce was less resources
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| 12:00 | <johnny> yeah, that's why i think somethign isn't right
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| 12:02 | !fatclient
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| 12:02 | <ltspbot`> johnny: Error: "fatclient" is not a valid command.
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| 12:02 | <johnny> !fat-client
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| 12:02 | <ltspbot`> johnny: Error: "fat-client" is not a valid command.
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| 12:02 | <johnny> and no alkisg
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| 12:02 | :(
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| 12:03 | <vbundi> have you looked here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 12:03 | <Gadi> yo mama's thin client's so fat...
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| 12:03 | <vbundi> haha
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| 12:04 | that actually sounds pretty dirty
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| 12:05 | johnny: on the LDM screen do you have an Xfce session option?
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| 12:06 | johnny: err is that how you're doing it?
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| 12:06 | <johnny> vbundi, it's autologin
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| 12:06 | i don't see why any other option than xfce would show tho
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| 12:07 | <vbundi> well your system has both gnome and xfce installed right?
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| 12:07 | I see on mine I have a few session options like gnome, and failsafe gnome
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| 12:08 | <johnny> for fat clients only the system installed in the chroot should show
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| 12:08 | iirc anyways
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| 12:08 | not sure how it could start a local gnome session without all the packages existing in any case
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| 13:54 | <mutex> Hi
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| 13:55 | I am trying to get ekiga to detect the sound hardware on my client
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| 13:55 | I found some old threads referring to a part of the sourceforge wiki that is no longer there
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| 14:12 | <kalib> Hi there.. How can I get an image that I created at /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img, put it on a flash card and boot from that flash card?
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| 14:32 | <mutex> if you can tell the kernel to boot from the flash card then yes
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| 14:36 | <Gadi> (and set up networking, download the config file from tftp from a pre-configure IP, ...)
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| 14:36 | ltsp chroots are made to network boot
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| 14:36 | <mamboloco> The question is, how does write a image.img to a flash disk only this. Does anyone know? Someone could tell us how we do it?
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| 14:38 | the image will be loaded locally, not more by the server. Is it just a "desktop" limited. Regardless of the server.
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| 14:39 | how to write a image.img in a flash disk and boot to it?
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| 14:40 | <Gadi> you can make a liveUSB using: System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator
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| 14:40 | and customize it using one of the liveCDcustomization howtos
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| 14:41 | <mamboloco> | |
| 14:41 | is that I myself have created the image, it is ready: /
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| 14:43 | I'll try and see if can take the image than I did, thanks!
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| 14:46 | <Gadi> or start from a regular liveCD and follow something like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
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| 14:46 | then feed that into the USB creator
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| 14:49 | <johnny> alkisg, so.. i tried xubuntu as a fat client
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| 14:49 | <alkisg> and?
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| 14:49 | <johnny> yet the memory usage is about the same on login, and the there is an "About Gnome" link in the menu
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| 14:49 | and the menu bar looks the same as gnome..
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| 14:50 | but the windows don't.. different gtk theme
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| 14:50 | i'm confused
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| 14:50 | * alkisg isn't familiar with xubuntu | |
| 14:50 | <alkisg> So that's half-xubuntu, half-gnome?
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| 14:50 | <johnny> seems so..
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| 14:51 | i'm very confuzzled
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| 14:51 | anybody here used xubuntu fatclients?
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| 14:51 | <alkisg> Try dpkg -l '*desktop*' in the chroot to see what desktops are installed
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| 14:51 | | grep ^ii
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| 14:53 | <johnny> only xubuntu-desktop
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| 14:53 | and gnome-desktop-data, but that's probably not related
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> Yeah weird then. Maybe some artwork package? I've never used xubuntu so I don't know how it's supposed to look
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| 14:54 | <johnny> i used it before, and it looked like standard xfce
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| 14:54 | perhaps xubuntu has it customized tho
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| 14:54 | to look more gnomey
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| 14:54 | that was 2 years ago or somethin
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> The fat clients plugin does install ubuntu-minimal (or standard? not sure), but that doesn't have any GUI packages in it afaik
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| 14:55 | <johnny> i wonder who can help with info on this
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| 14:55 | <alkisg> http://gvxdev.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/xub-lucid-scrshot-3.png
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| 14:55 | Here's a xubuntu lucid screenshot, is it like that?
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| 14:56 | <johnny> ah yes
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| 14:56 | so.. it is trying to be more gnomey
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| 14:57 | <alkisg> OK, nice, so the fat clients plugin is also working with xubuntu, didn't know that ;)
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| 14:57 | <johnny> i think ..
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| 14:57 | i don't see why it's using so much ram tho
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| 14:57 | <alkisg> It's a regular xubuntu desktop... I don't think there's any significant difference in RAM between fat client <=> regular desktops
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| 14:58 | <johnny> then again, i don't know how much is in cache
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| 14:58 | sure, but i heard that xubuntu should work with 256mb ram
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| 14:58 | <alkisg> Xubuntu sure, but firefox won't
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| 14:58 | <johnny> of course
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| 14:58 | <alkisg> Firefox needs 512 + swap...
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| 14:58 | lubuntu is lighter, if you're looking for something light
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| 14:59 | <johnny> hmm.. it sounds like i really need more ram
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| 14:59 | <alkisg> If you're using non-text browsers, yeah... :)
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> How much ram do you have? 384?
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> Or 256?
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| 15:05 | <komunista> lubuntu I more lighter than gnome and than xfce too
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| 15:05 | the ram usage in gnome and xfce is very simillar
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| 15:06 | but I write about fresh desktop
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| 15:06 | when other apps are used then, RAM usage depends on libraries used too
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| 15:07 | and here gnome and xfce shares some libraries with others GTK programs, but LXDE not...
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| 15:07 | <johnny> alkisg, 512
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| 15:07 | alkisg, http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/233-Network-Storage-Loopback-ext3-on-NFS-Really.html
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| 15:07 | i think you and vagrantc might find that interesting
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| 19:46 | <jammcq> helloooooo
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| 23:21 | <epaphus> Hello guys. New ltsp setup has been doing well.. except that sometimes openoffice or twinkle gets locked up (the program closes but there is still a background PID opened)... thus after this occurs the user cannot startup the program in question again. What is the best tool the user can have to actually quit those ghost processes ?
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| 23:22 | <johnny> this is normal ltsp? or fat client?
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| 23:24 | <epaphus> a combination. Openoffice is running in the server. twinkle in the thin client
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