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Channel log from 3 January 2008 (all times are UTC)
| 00:09 | <sutula> ari_stress: RE your comment 4.5 hours ago (not specifying monitor refresh rate as it would damage monitor), it would be best to specify the right rate, of course. The reason I had to specify it was that X wasn't autodetecting it right.
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| 00:09 | (sorry I was /away)
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| 00:10 | <ari_stress> sutula: that's ok
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| 00:10 | :)
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| 00:10 | <sutula> ari_stress: I didn't read all the stuff between now and then, in case you discussed all this already :)
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| 00:10 | <ari_stress> thanks for the confirmation
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| 00:11 | i'm doing a ltsp project that involves the use of Openoffice calc
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| 00:12 | and we are facing a problem in compatibility issue between Ooo and MS excel that might become a show stopper for the ltsp project itself :(
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| 00:12 | damn excel
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| 00:12 | sorry for cursing
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| 00:12 | :)
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| 00:12 | <sutula> "show stopper for the ltsp project"? That sounds a little extreme. It's still working well for me. :)
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| 00:13 | <ari_stress> yes, i mean, we might cancel migrating to ltsp if the ms excell formula isn't working in OOo
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| 00:14 | that sucks. doesnt it
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| 00:14 | <sutula> ari_stress: ...but, you can fix OOo to work :)
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| 00:17 | <ari_stress> i wish i know how. for example, in MS Excel, the formula is: \\server1\share\file1.xls. In OOo (Linux) the formula should be //server1/share/file1.xls
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| 00:17 | how to change from backslash to forward slash
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| 00:21 | * sutula wonders whether there might be an oo support channel somewhere...doesn't know himself | |
| 00:21 | <sutula> good night all
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| 00:24 | <iMacGyver> ari_stress: try gnumeric?
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| 00:25 | <ari_stress> iMacGyver: that sounds interesting, havent thought about it
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| 00:25 | ok i will try it
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| 00:33 | <johnny> I'll be triaging bugs for sabayon
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| 00:33 | and working on some stuff we use
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| 00:33 | so i'd be interested in folks testing out new builds i make
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| 00:33 | once i test them locally at my live install that is
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| 00:42 | <whitey_> anyone here have any idea how to conquer a PXE timeout problem when dealing w/ a cisco switch that doesnt train for 30 secs?
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| 00:42 | the client comes up and tries to PXE boot and no dhcp offers are received as teh NIC is still training on the cisco switch adn right as it links up the PXE boot dhcp times out :-(
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| 00:42 | BOOO
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| 00:43 | works beautifully though on a 'dumb' switch
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| 00:43 | freaking layer 3 switches...the bane of my existance
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| 00:45 | I'm sure someone here has ran into this issue before or am I the only sucker trying to do this on a layer 3 switch?
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| 00:49 | <iMacGyver> whitey_: try turning off the tree spanning on those ports?
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| 00:50 | <whitey_> so nuke STP?
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| 00:51 | I dont think it is turned on, lemme check
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| 00:51 | maybe give it the ole' prune
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| 00:53 | would you recommend turning it off on a vlan group and drop my clients into that vlan of ports or globally on teh whole dang switch?
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| 00:54 | <iMacGyver> we pretty much had to turn it off on all the ports
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| 00:54 | it made negotiation way too slow
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| 00:54 | and this was for even non-pxe dhcp clients
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| 00:55 | <whitey_> did that introduce layer 2 loops at all or was that NOT an issue?
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| 00:55 | I seem to recall that disable STp can introduce or invite loop probs
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| 00:55 | <iMacGyver> wasn't an issue...we never introduce any :)
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| 00:57 | <whitey_> maybe I should try a 'set spantree portfast' first and see how that works and if that doesnt give me the needed results try globally
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| 00:58 | thanks for the help
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| 00:58 | <iMacGyver> whitey_: np :)
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| 00:58 | <whitey_> much appreciatedf
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| 01:06 | <whitey_> spanning-tree portfast on teh interface did the magic, gracias
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| 01:17 | damn that's twice tonight that someone on here has helped me out in a big way, I must owe you all a kidney or something :-D
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| 01:17 | or a liver seeings how new years just passed hah
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| 01:20 | <iMacGyver> lol :)
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| 07:28 | <floppy> hello
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| 07:29 | how can i install the closed source nvidia driver on ltsp5 / etch
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| 07:29 | <mattwalston> For some reason or another when I try to use the Citrix client from a LTSP Client none of the fonts appear. This problem is limited to the Citrix Client only. Any suggestions?
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| 07:30 | floppy: install in a chrooted /opt/ltsp/arch and then rebuild the image
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| 07:31 | <floppy> okay
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| 07:31 | but when i try, the installer say it could not find the /proc and i havent a nvidia GPU and so on
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| 07:36 | <mattwalston> floppy: do they offer a tarball?
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| 07:37 | you may need to mount proc inside of chroot
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| 07:42 | <mcfloppy_> how can i do that? i need the proc from the client
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| 07:45 | <mcfloppy_> so
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| 07:45 | re
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| 07:45 | sorry, but my chat client is broken down
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| 07:45 | [14:36] <mattwalston> floppy: do they offer a tarball?
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| 07:45 | [14:37] <mattwalston> you may need to mount proc inside of chroot
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| 07:45 | [14:42] -> * #ltsp how can i do that? i need the proc from the clien
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| 07:45 | the last i see and i write ;)
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| 07:55 | mattwalston they offer a installer
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| 08:58 | <cliebow_> where oh where is sbalneav??
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| 09:05 | <ogra> cliebow_, in his cottage i bet
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| 09:05 | <cliebow_> oh yeah...he sent pictures
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| 10:25 | <poliveira> Hi. I installed rdesktop on the thin client image, and I configured 3 screens in lts.conf. Screen_01 is none, screen_02 is shell and screen_03 is rdesktop, but rdesktop opens on screen 4! In screen 3 I get Xorg messages! anyone had this problem?
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| 10:25 | <sid> Gadi: ping
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| 10:26 | <poliveira> One of the Xorg messages is "X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0" but I didn't find a solution for this
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| 10:31 | <cliebow_> poliveira, if this ltsp5 on ubuntu..screen 1 may have special meaning
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| 10:32 | <poliveira> wich meaning?
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| 10:32 | If i put ldm on screen_01, the keyboaard doesn't work!
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| 10:33 | <cliebow_> poliveira, best to catch ogra...
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| 10:36 | <poliveira> what? I didn't understand
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| 10:36 | <cliebow_> you need to ask ogra..
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| 10:37 | <poliveira> ah, ok :)
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| 10:39 | <Gadi> poliveira: try setting SCREEN_07, SCREEN_02, SCREEN_03
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| 10:39 | avoiding SCREEN_01
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| 10:39 | (ldm, by default runs on SCREEN_07)
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| 10:40 | <poliveira> ok, but rdesktop?
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| 10:40 | <Gadi> I don't believe a graphical display is allowed on screen 1
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| 10:41 | so, what may have happened is 1 got pushed to 2
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| 10:41 | 2 got pushed to 3, etc
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| 10:42 | <Gadi> by default, a getty is running on tty1
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| 10:42 | <poliveira> but if I put startx on screen_02, the display works ok
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| 10:42 | <Gadi> so, that prolly screws you up
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| 10:42 | exactly
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| 10:42 | do not use SCREEN_01
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| 10:43 | <outofrange> Anyone familiar with how xauth is used with Pulseaudio?
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| 10:43 | <poliveira> currently I am not using it. But do you have any idea regarding the rdesktop issue I asked above?
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| 10:43 | <Gadi> poliveira: I think it is all related
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| 10:44 | outofrange: what problem do you have?
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| 10:45 | <poliveira> ok. I am trying rdesktop on screen_07 and is the only screen configured
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| 10:46 | <outofrange> The gnome volume applet only works on the initial user I created. I get X11 wrong auth error for all other users and their volume doesn't work. If I copy the working user's .Xauthority file to the non-working users then pulse works for them.
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| 10:46 | <Gadi> poliveira: you could kill the getty if you want to have functionality similar to ltsp before ltsp5
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| 10:47 | outofrange: is that 2 people on 2 different terminals; or you log one in, log out, log another in?
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| 10:47 | <poliveira> it didn't resolve it. in screen_07 it appears the Xorg messages and the login screen of windows appears on screen_02
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| 10:48 | <outofrange> It's two different users. All users (except the initial user) generate that "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication" error on the *server* when the log in and pulse doesn't work. The initial user doesn't generate that error and pulse works.
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| 10:48 | <Gadi> outofrange: is that 2 people on 2 different terminals; or you log one in, log out, log another in?
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| 10:49 | poliveira: can you paste your lts.conf?
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| 10:49 | <outofrange> 2 people on the same terminal. If I copy the .Xauthority file from the initial user to another user's home then pulse works for that user and they don't generate that X11 error.
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| 10:49 | Log in and log out.
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| 10:49 | <Gadi> ok - can you test with two people on two different terminals?
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| 10:50 | you may have found a bug
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| 10:50 | but one that should be resolvable
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| 10:50 | <outofrange> Gadi: can you explain a little how .Xauthority is involved with pulse?
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| 10:51 | Might help me debug
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| 10:51 | <Gadi> outofrange: I believe it is used to secure the audio stream, so another user cannot send sounds to your terminal
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| 10:52 | <poliveira> Gadi: here is my lts.conf: SERVER = 192.168.69.177; DNS_SERVER = 192.168.69.177; SEARCH_DOMAIN = petrus.pt; SCREEN_07 = "rdesktop -d petrus -k pt -a 16 -f 192.168.69.183 -r disk:Drives=/var/run/drives"; Xserver="auto"; SOUND=True;LOCALDEV=True; NBD_SWAP=True; SYSLOG=SERVER;
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| 10:52 | <outofrange> Wouldn't that mean that every time someone logs in on a client that their magic cookie would need to be copied to the client from someplace to match their cookie in the $HOME on the server?
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| 10:55 | <Gadi> poliveira: I assume those are on different lines, and that the lts.conf is in the right place (ie - its not using some other lts.conf?)
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| 10:56 | outofrange: actually, I just checked, and we call pulseaudio with -auth-anonymous=1
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| 10:56 | are you sure those are errors and not warnings?
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| 10:56 | <outofrange> Gadi: the X11 error?
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| 10:56 | <poliveira> yes, its different lines and it's in /etc/lts.conf
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| 10:56 | <Gadi> yeah
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| 10:57 | poliveira: is this ubuntu gutsy?
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| 10:57 | <poliveira> 7.04: feist
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| 10:57 | <Gadi> ah, ok
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| 10:58 | <outofrange> Gadi: I don't know for sure. All I know is if I copy .Xauthority file to a different user then the error goes away and I can then use the gnome volume control.
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| 10:58 | <Gadi> outofrange: which distro are you on?
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| 10:58 | <outofrange> gutsy
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| 10:59 | * Gadi wonders if the xauth info is not refreshed properly in ldm2 in gutsy | |
| 11:00 | <Gadi> we do a lot of xauth magic on the client side
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| 11:00 | mostly for LOCALDEV
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| 11:00 | as local devices are secure using xauth
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| 11:01 | * Gadi checks quickly ... | |
| 11:01 | <outofrange> It's not very clear to me how the parts fit together ;) Seems like the xauth on the client (root's?) home would need to match the one in the server's $HOME for the user logging in.
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| 11:01 | <Gadi> nah
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| 11:02 | X auth is transparent client/server
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| 11:02 | well, im babbling
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| 11:02 | lemme check
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| 11:03 | <outofrange> I always use X11 over ssh so I haven't worked with the cookies in a long time.
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| 11:03 | But, seems like you have to have a matching pair.
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| 11:11 | <Gadi> well, you could try fixing it with an rc.d script for ldm that copies the /root/.Xauthority file to the user's session
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| 11:12 | at least that would patch things outside of having to patch it in ldm
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| 11:12 | fo rnow
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| 11:12 | er, now
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| 11:12 | <outofrange> Meaning to $HOME/.Xauthority?
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| 11:12 | <Gadi> let me whip something up for you, and it will be clearer
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| 11:12 | one sec
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| 11:15 | !pastebot
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| 11:15 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 11:16 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "put in: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/S11copyXauthority" (7 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/405
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| 11:17 | <Gadi> try that and reroll the image (ltsp-update-image)
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| 11:17 | see if that cures things
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| 11:17 | <outofrange> What's ${LDM_SERVER}?
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| 11:17 | <Gadi> stores the ip/host of the server you connect to
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| 11:18 | <outofrange> But in root or for the current user?
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| 11:18 | <Gadi> current user
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| 11:18 | <outofrange> ok
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| 11:18 | <Gadi> (as it uses the open socket)
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| 11:18 | <outofrange> I see.
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| 11:18 | * Gadi hopes he has his syntax all good | |
| 11:18 | <Gadi> :)
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| 11:19 | <outofrange> Well, couldn't I run that from the shell on the client to test?
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| 11:19 | No,.
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| 11:19 | <Gadi> sure
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| 11:19 | just make sure you log in thru ldm on one screen first
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| 11:20 | then you can ctrl-alt-f<whatever> and try executing the scp command (expanded) on the command line
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| 11:20 | ie: scp -o "ControlPath /var/run/<socket name>" server:
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| 11:20 | <outofrange> I'm confused. ctrl-alt-f1 won't see those environment variables, will they?
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| 11:21 | <Gadi> er: scp -o "ControlPath /var/run/<socket name>" /root/.Xauthority server:
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| 11:21 | right, exapnd them
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| 11:21 | you know what they are ;)
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| 11:22 | I *know* the variables expand to the right thing
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| 11:22 | <outofrange> So if user foo is logging in then scp -o ... /root/.Xauthority user@ltsp-server:
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| 11:22 | eh foo@ltsp-server:
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| 11:22 | basically, copy the ltsp client .Xauthority file to the currently logged in user's home dir.
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| 11:23 | <Gadi> no
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| 11:23 | you shouldn't need user@
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| 11:23 | if you have the socket
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| 11:23 | and it shouldnt ask you for a password
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| 11:23 | <outofrange> Oh. ok
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| 11:23 | <Gadi> so, basically, just verify that you can copy the file without password
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| 11:24 | <cliebow_> Gadi ROCKS!!
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| 11:24 | <outofrange> Ok. the clients are in a different location so I'll have to go check.
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| 11:24 | Yes, gadi++.
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| 11:24 | <Gadi> if it asks for a password then, we'll do it in a different way
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| 11:24 | :)
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| 11:24 | <outofrange> Ok. it will take me a few minutes.
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| 11:24 | <Gadi> we'll cat the file and write the output on the server with ssh
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| 11:24 | I never know if scp is as capable as ssh
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| 11:24 | :)
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| 11:25 | but, that's the "proper way"
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| 11:25 | :)
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| 11:25 | <outofrange> Still, much of this seem like magic. ;)
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| 11:25 | * Gadi spends his life plugging holes - much less time actually replacing pipes :) | |
| 11:26 | <Gadi> which reminds me, you should file a bug report :P
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| 11:26 | <outofrange> ok. I also had to install a pulse plugin to get the one user to work.
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| 11:27 | <Gadi> really? that shouldnt be
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| 11:27 | <outofrange> Hum, I can't ssh into the ltsp server. that's odd.
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| 11:27 | <Gadi> in the chroot or on the server?
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| 11:27 | outofrange: did you login to tty1 or do a shell scren?
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| 11:27 | <outofrange> libgstreamer-plugins-pulse0.10-0
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| 11:27 | <Gadi> er, screen
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| 11:28 | <outofrange> I'm on the server now. What's the question?
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| 11:28 | <Gadi> outofrange: you shouldnt need that plugin
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| 11:28 | we create a pulse virtual alsa device
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| 11:28 | plain old alsa should work
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| 11:28 | <outofrange> That's what got the volume working on gnome
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| 11:29 | <Gadi> nah, my guess is it would have worked with alsa, too
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| 11:29 | maybe you were testing with the second user ;)
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| 11:29 | <outofrange> Alsa mixed does work. before installing that the gnome volume applet prefs didn't list pulse
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| 11:29 | <Gadi> right, but you shouldnt use pulse
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| 11:29 | you should have used alsa
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| 11:29 | which would talk to pulse
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| 11:29 | :)
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| 11:30 | <outofrange> I tried both ALSA and OSS the only two listed in the Gnome volume and neither worked.
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| 11:30 | <Gadi> were you the first user or the second?
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| 11:30 | <outofrange> I installed that package and then it started working, but only for the first user.
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| 11:30 | Then it was just the xauth problem.
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| 11:31 | <Gadi> well, lets get all this sorted out, in any event
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| 11:31 | :)
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| 11:31 | <outofrange> alsa mixer always worked.
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| 11:31 | for all users, I think.
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| 11:31 | <Gadi> ok, back to the client...
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| 11:32 | did you ctrl-alt-f1 and login on the client?
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| 11:32 | or did you set a "shell" screen?
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| 11:32 | <outofrange> Yes, that's how I normally log in.
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| 11:32 | ctrl-alt-f1 -- I don't have a "shell" setup in lts.conf
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| 11:32 | <Gadi> ok
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| 11:32 | and you couldn't ssh to the server?
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| 11:33 | <outofrange> Sorry, I have not moved to the lstp clients yet. I'll go try now -- back in a few minutes.
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| 11:33 | <Gadi> oh, crap. I have a mtg
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| 11:33 | I will check back in afterwards
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| 11:34 | good luck
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| 11:34 | <outofrange> do you watch either the lstp or edubuntu list?
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| 11:34 | <Gadi> infrequently
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| 11:34 | <outofrange> ok I'll try and catch you here. Thanks!!
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| 11:34 | <Gadi> np
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| 11:37 | <cliebow_> outofrange, there was an ogragram re sound this am on discuss
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| 11:37 | <outofrange> Yes, I saw
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| 11:39 | Seems like the magic cookie would need to be setup early (before whatever generates the X11 auth error).
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| 11:39 | I just don't have enough of the puzzle pieces yet to see the picture. ;)
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| 11:43 | Hum, If I could wake the clients on LAN and had VNC installed maybe I could test all this remotely.
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| 11:44 | not sure could get ldm working remotely.
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| 11:47 | <cliebow_> out x11vnc could contact display :0
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| 12:46 | <outofrange> The X11 auth error was a red herring.
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| 12:48 | Gadi: Your script just made every loging (even the initial user) generate the X11 auth error. So I backed out the ldm script. I'd love to figure out what is generating that error, though.
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| 12:49 | It was pessulus that was preventing the volume applet from starting for other users. I'm not sure I like gnome. ;)
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| 12:50 | Every so often a user will log in and they desktop will be blank (no background) and the logout button doesn't work. Seems that a *server* reboot is what fixes it. Rebooting a server to fix a single user just seems very wrong.
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| 18:38 | <ari_stress> morning all :D
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| 19:21 | <AzMoo> G'day! Can somebody help me with the ubuntu ltsp? I want to modify the way gdm works for the clients (AutoLogin), but I'm not sure I really understand how this is all working. I expected to see under /opt/ltsp/i386/ a /etc/gdm/ with a full configuration there, but it's not. The only real configuration I can find is outside of what I thought was the chroot environment.
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| 19:22 | <johnny> gdm isn't used by default
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| 19:22 | <AzMoo> I can boot my thin clients from it no worries, but I'm just not sure exactly *what* it's booting.
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| 19:22 | <johnny> i don't use it myself
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| 19:22 | i use ldm
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| 19:23 | <AzMoo> johnny: Is there a configuration for that anywhere?
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| 19:24 | <johnny> configuration in what way?
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| 19:24 | <AzMoo> Well I want to autologin.
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| 19:24 | <johnny> which ubuntu?
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| 19:24 | <AzMoo> xubuntu
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| 19:24 | <johnny> gutsy or feisty?
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| 19:24 | <AzMoo> gutsy
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| 19:25 | <johnny> you set LDM_USERNAME and LDM_PASSWORD
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| 19:25 | in the lts.conf
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| 19:25 | <AzMoo> Is there anywhere that documents this stuff?
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| 19:25 | <johnny> think so
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| 19:25 | but that's the only related parameters for lts.conf
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| 19:25 | there aren't any other configuration parameters afaik
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| 19:26 | <AzMoo> Hmm. I think that'd be ok. Am I right in that /opt/ltsp/i386 is the environment that the client is loading?
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| 19:27 | <johnny> yes
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| 19:28 | you might want to read the edubuntu handbook
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| 19:29 | <AzMoo> That's probably a good idea. Thanks johnny.
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| 19:38 | <AzMoo> johnny: The edubuntu handbook says that lts.conf should be in /opt/ltsp/i386/, but the file that's there says it's been moved to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/. Which one should I be using?
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| 19:38 | <outofrange> /var/lib/tfptboot
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| 19:39 | <AzMoo> ta mate
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| 19:39 | <johnny> except..
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| 19:39 | autologin doesn't work from there
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| 19:39 | as far as i can tell
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| 19:39 | it only works for me when inside the chroot
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| 19:39 | <AzMoo> well I'm about to find
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| 19:39 | out
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| 19:39 | <johnny> all the other params seem fine
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| 19:39 | but those two are not passed down it seems
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| 19:40 | <outofrange> the var/lib/tftp one should get copied to /etc/lts.conf on boot.
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| 19:40 | <AzMoo> black screen with a cursor. I've read something about that before.
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| 20:04 | <johnny> yes
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| 20:04 | it's a registered bug
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| 20:04 | i have a fixed ldm
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| 20:05 | outofrange, i dont know what happens.. i just know that it doesn't work :)
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| 20:05 | <outofrange> I wasn't following -- the automatic login?
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| 20:05 | <johnny> yes
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| 20:05 | in my ubuntu ltsp setup
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| 20:06 | the autologin only works with a patched ldm, and the lts.conf must be in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 20:06 | <outofrange> Sorry -- I've seen people discuss it but I've never tried using it.
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| 20:06 | <johnny> it's prolly a bug of some kind
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| 20:06 | <outofrange> Ah.
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| 20:07 | <johnny> i have a patched ldm AzMoo , but it won't be supported by the ubuntu ltsp team if you have problems
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| 20:07 | so you'll have to revert if you get any problems
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| 21:24 | <AzMoo> johnny: Is that the patch that's on launchpad?
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| 21:29 | <johnny> it's a build with that patch
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| 21:30 | <AzMoo> Yeah, I think I got that one. After I've applied it, do I have to do the ltsp-build-client thing again?
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| 21:31 | <johnny> no..
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| 21:31 | just ltsp-update-image
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| 21:32 | you did install it in the chroot right?
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| 21:32 | <AzMoo> yep, --root=/opt/ltsp/i386/
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| 21:32 | <johnny> ot what command?
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| 21:32 | to*
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| 21:32 | <AzMoo> apt-get
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| 21:32 | sorry, dpkg
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| 21:32 | <johnny> ok
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| 21:33 | <AzMoo> I had to update pango though, because the dependencies required a later version than what I had, even though I'd done the latest upgrades.
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| 21:36 | <johnny> aha.. i built a new package so that wouldnt happen to me
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| 21:36 | as an exercise in learning
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| 21:36 | but .. i actually didn't know how to upgrade pango to the newest
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| 21:36 | as the one in the chroot doesn't match the one in the repo
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| 21:36 | i don't know where that is defined tho
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| 21:36 | sounds like you know more than i
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| 21:41 | <AzMoo> I think the later version is the hardy build. The required debs were in the repos so I just downloaded them and put them on manually.
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| 21:41 | It worked btw, thanks :)
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| 21:43 | <johnny> word
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| 21:43 | does it work outside the chroot ?
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| 21:43 | the lts.conf i mean
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| 21:45 | <AzMoo> I'm not sure, I moved it in there before I remembered to do the update-image
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| 21:45 | I'll take it out and find out.
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| 21:49 | johnny: sure does.
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| 23:04 | <daya> anyone know how do i localise ldm,
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| 23:12 | <AzMoo> When I add a program to the .xsession it puts it into fullscreen kiosk mode. Is there a way to disable this behaviour?
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| 23:27 | <johnny> it's not ready het
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| 23:27 | you shouldn't use .xsession with ldm/gdm i thought
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| 23:27 | and instead use the gnome tools to start programs
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| 23:27 | via the Sessions option
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| 23:28 | daya, it's not completely ready
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| 23:28 | but talk to sbalnaev
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| 23:28 | about it
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| 23:28 | <daya> johnny, not ready,
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| 23:28 | johnny, I wan't just login window to be localised,
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| 23:29 | <johnny> i don't know the details about why it's not
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| 23:29 | but somebody else wasn't able to do it either
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| 23:29 | <AzMoo> johnny: oh right, ok. Ta. That explains the horrible errors I was getting, too.
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| 23:29 | <daya> johnny, it of course should be, isn't it?
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| 23:30 | <johnny> AzMoo, do you plan on using the sabayon user profile tool?
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| 23:30 | <johnny> vagrantc, welcome :)
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| 23:30 | <AzMoo> johnny: I don't know what the sabayon user profile tool is.
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| 23:30 | <johnny> aha
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| 23:30 | well.. i use it ... i like it a lot
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| 23:30 | it just has some bugs
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| 23:31 | so i'm trying to gather folks who want to use it.. to use my apt repo once i get patches integrated
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| 23:31 | <vagrantc> get patches adopted upstream or in a distro
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| 23:31 | <johnny> upstream
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| 23:31 | ultimately
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| 23:31 | i have svn now
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| 23:32 | altho.. the auth is still broke
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| 23:32 | but.. hopefully it will be solved soon
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| 23:32 | <AzMoo> ah, I'm using xfce.
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| 23:32 | <johnny> hmm.. i think i'll always use gnome
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| 23:32 | i'd rather buy nicer hardware and use gnome..
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| 23:33 | much cheaper i nthe long run
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| 23:34 | <AzMoo> Oh, it's not the hardware at all. I've got a funky VMWare Virtual Infrastructure cluster to play with. It's just they don't need anything that gnome provides. In fact, all I need is firefox.
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| 23:35 | <johnny> hmm. .then don't you want kiosk mode then? :)
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| 23:36 | <AzMoo> Almost. It gets rid of all of the window decorations, which means you can't do things like moving popups around.
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| 23:37 | <johnny> aha..
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| 23:37 | <AzMoo> otherwise yes, I would indeed want kiosk mode.
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| 23:38 | <johnny> ther'es some option to build a kiosk mode chroot
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| 23:38 | but i don't know what it actually means
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| 23:42 | <AzMoo> yeah, I was looking at the edubuntu wiki which was talking about that, but everytime I did it the client build failed.
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| 23:43 | <vagrantc> the --kiosk option is basically to set up an environment where the thin-clients are simply running firefox on the client itself
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| 23:44 | and the user does autologin, and resets it's home directory on reboot
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| 23:44 | <AzMoo> Oh. That's not really what I want at all.
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| 23:44 | <vagrantc> it's basically /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/workstation
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| 23:45 | well, more limited than that, but same basic concept
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| 23:46 | <AzMoo> yeah, makes sense. I think I do need the ability to add things like open office in the future, so they can read office documents and stuff, so that would be difficult.
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| 23:47 | But now for some reason I'm getting crazy artifacts all over the display on my thin client :\
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| 23:57 | Only seems to do it when I have a terminal running.
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