IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 30 October 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:40 | <alkisg> !nbd-client
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| 07:40 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 10:03 | <sunson> I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients. I used to run thin clients. I built the fat client in /opt/ltsp/fat386 and modified /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to use "/ltsp/fat386" instead of "/ltsp/i386". Now the fat clients show login screen but auth fails. In a flicker, the login screen reappears. how do I debug?
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| 10:03 | I run edubuntu 11.04
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| 10:11 | <Apostolis> καλημερα αλκη εισαι μεσα
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| 10:11 | <alkisg> Καλημέρα Apostolis
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| 10:12 | <Apostolis> εχω ενα μηχανημα server που δεν ξεκινανε οι client mporeiw να βοηθησεις
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| 10:12 | <alkisg> Ναι μισό τηλ
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| 10:13 | <Apostolis> οκ πεσμου οταν
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| 10:14 | <alkisg> Apostolis: δεν ξεκινάνε καθόλου; κάνε ένα vnc από τον server
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| 10:14 | x11vnc -connect plinet.ioa.sch.gr
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| 10:14 | <Apostolis> περιγραφη: κανω τωρα δημοσιευση σκληρου δισκου με τα μεχρι τωρα δεδομενα, εχει ομως να κατεβασει 400ΜΒ με ενημερωσεις θα το κανω μετα
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| 10:16 | <Mava> aha
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| 10:18 | <alkisg> Apostolis: join #ts.sch.gr so that we don't write greek in this channel, it's english only :)
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| 10:18 | <Apostolis> το πρωτο ξεκινισε
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| 10:19 | <gvy> apostolis axios? :)
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| 10:59 | <sunson> is there a limit to nbd image file size? I built a fat client. The image is ~774MB. I see a message in syslog "size of export file/device is 809943040" followed by a "Disconnect request received".
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> No, no limit
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| 11:05 | That message is normal, it's checking for newer versions of the image
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| 11:05 | <sunson> alkisg: oh, but auth fails.
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| 11:05 | <alkisg> Check ssh keys and available/selected sessions, e.g. unity 3d might not work
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| 11:05 | If auth fails, check the password :)
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| 11:06 | <sunson> alkisg: i know the password is right :)
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| 11:06 | alkisg: also the log (auth.log) shows that auth succeeded :)
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| 11:06 | <alkisg> Then auth succeeds, it doesn't fail
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| 11:07 | Check the available sessions
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| 11:07 | <sunson> alkisg: but i get login screen again. something flashes (too fast to read) and then it doesn't work anymore.
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| 11:07 | <alkisg> E.g. from the ldm preferences button, select unity 2d or so
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| 11:07 | <sunson> its back to log screen
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| 11:07 | <alkisg> That means that xorg crashes
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| 11:07 | (usually)
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| 11:08 | <sunson> weird. this happens only from my VM. the real clients login to desktop fine.
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| 11:08 | <alkisg> VMs don't support unity3d
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| 11:09 | <sunson> alkisg: i tried with other sessions also (including failsafe). how do I see X log on the fat client?
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| 11:11 | i have some basic doubts about whether my client is booting into thin or fat. how do I differentiate?
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| 11:13 | <alkisg> !screen_02
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| 11:13 | <ltsp> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 11:13 | <alkisg> Or, from a real client that logs in, open a terminal and check the output of `hostname`
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| 11:32 | <sunson> don't know what I did... (did too many things :( ) but it works for only one user - "me". All other users ldm fails to start X session (as seen in client's ldm.log)
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| 11:32 | the coincidence in /etc/passwd is that a 'test' account I created, happens to have the same uid as what "me" user has on server.
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| 11:35 | btw, http://www.epoptes.org/installation is throwing a 404.
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| 11:35 | the home page works fine. just installation page is gone.
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| 13:07 | <ltspuser_98> hi!
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| 13:07 | <andygraybeal_> hi
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| 13:07 | <ltspuser_98> I'm having two problems...
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| 13:07 | I am working with an Ubuntu 12.04 chroot and I need to know 2 thing
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| 13:08 | first my KRDC app doesn't work
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| 13:08 | even if I put this app like a local app
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| 13:08 | my terminal freezes...
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| 13:08 | and another one is if I put my firefox running like a local app the theme is lost...
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| 13:09 | which package do I need to install to have Ubuntu themes on firefox?
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| 14:41 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 14:45 | <dead_inside> morning sbalneav
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| 14:49 | <ltspuser_98> 13:07] <ltspuser_98> I'm having two problems... [13:07] <ltspuser_98> I am working with an Ubuntu 12.04 chroot and I need to know 2 thing [13:07] <ltspuser_98> first my KRDC app doesn't work [13:08] <ltspuser_98> even if I put this app like a local app [13:08] <ltspuser_98> my terminal freezes... [13:08] <ltspuser_98> and another one is if I put my firefox running like a local app the theme is lost... [13:09] <ltspuser_98> which p
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| 14:53 | <lovepoptes> hi
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| 14:54 | people
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| 14:54 | i am using epopte in a childcare instituation ... i got a problem with the muting function
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| 14:54 | when i try to muts my LTSP clients cothing happens ... rest of the features seem to work
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| 14:55 | i really need that feature couse the kids love to play on the volume
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| 15:29 | <alkisg> lovepoptes: doesn't mute lower the volume to zero?
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| 15:31 | sunson: http://www.epoptes.org/installation works for me
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| 15:42 | <lovepoptes> well it works ... but no muting
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| 15:43 | <lovepoptes> it should lower it to 0 ... but it des nothing
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| 15:44 | hmmm ok ... suddenly it does work ... but i am not able to unmute... but thats fine
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| 15:44 | <ogra_> mute usually doesnt change the volume at all
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| 15:44 | it sets the mute switch
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> lovepoptes: unmuting is an alsa bug, let me find it..
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| 15:44 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/1026331
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| 15:48 | <lovepoptes> good .. thx for poitning that out
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| 15:48 | alkisg :)
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| 15:49 | think I will live with that ... I gues the kids will do the unmute :D
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| 15:51 | <alkisg> Unfortunately we haven't found a good method to permanately lock the volume, but it's in the TODO list for when we do find a better way
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| 15:51 | Writing a pulseaudio plugin was the only real method I could find so far
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| 15:52 | <ogra_> you could abuse alsa ucm
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| 15:52 | s/ab//
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| 15:52 | :)
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| 15:56 | <alkisg> ogra_: this one? http://www.slimlogic.co.uk/2009/02/alsa-use-case-manager/
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| 15:56 | When I tried changing alsa volume levels, users could change them back using pulseaudio...
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| 16:15 | <lovepoptes> any way to make the preview thumbs of the desktops larger?
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> lovepoptes: there's a setting in a config file for that,
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| 16:16 | <lovepoptes> sweet
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| 16:16 | <alkisg> or you can wait 10 days for the next epoptes version which will have that in the UI
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| 16:16 | <lovepoptes> even better :)
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| 16:16 | <alkisg> lovepoptes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/epoptes/+bug/984901
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| 16:19 | <lovepoptes> ok ... works gr8 thx a lot
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| 16:50 | <alkisg> !learn alkisg-todo as fix/revert r2396
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| 16:50 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 18:08 | <vagrantc> alkisg: so, sometimes using printf "%b" gives warnings with checkbashisms, sometimes not... :(
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| 18:10 | <alkisg> vagrantc: for r2396, this would also do it: printf "$replace\n" >> "$file"
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| 18:10 | * vagrantc wonders what the need for all the substitutions is | |
| 18:11 | <vagrantc> alkisg: is there any reason not to always include the variable directly, rather than through %s or %b?
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| 18:11 | <alkisg> Multiple subnets == multiple lines == \n in the $replace string
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| 18:11 | Yes
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| 18:11 | For example:
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| 18:12 | If one wants to replace: This line contains %b which should not be interpreted, and \n which should be
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| 18:12 | ...then that "%b" in the $replace line will be processed by printf in this case: printf "$replace"
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| 18:12 | ...while it won't, in this case: printf "%b" "$replace"
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| 18:13 | But for the limited dnsmasq/ranges case, we don't mind, we shouldn't have any %b or other format specifiers there anyway
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| 18:15 | <vagrantc> so that covers server/ltsp-config, what about client/share/ltsp/screen-x-common?
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| 18:16 | <alkisg> I think r2398 is fine for that, we don't expect any escape sequences in $1 there, do we?
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| 18:16 | So there's no need for %b there
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| 18:16 | <highvoltage> it's weird seeing alkis online st nigjt:)
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| 18:17 | * highvoltage likes this timezone | |
| 18:17 | <alkisg> highvoltage: back home?
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| 18:17 | <vagrantc> alkisg: ok.
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| 18:18 | * vagrantc suspects checkbashisms has a faulty check | |
| 18:18 | * vagrantc will add some tests to debian/rules once wheezy is release | |
| 18:18 | <highvoltage> denmark for uds
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| 18:18 | <alkisg> Ah right
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| 18:19 | <highvoltage> on phone via ssh so talk l8r
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| 18:19 | <alkisg> An ssh phone? Wow some people really need private communications... :D
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| 19:51 | <mikec> is there a way to completely clean out an ltsp-cluster-lbagent installation? For some reason my cluster doesn't want to see this machine I've reinstalled. On ubuntu 12.04 LTS, apt-get remove ltsp-clusterlbagent doesnt seem to be do the trick
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| 19:51 | when i re-install the package, there are config files in /etc/ltsp
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| 19:51 | namely lbaconfig.xml or accountmanager.conf
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| 19:52 | there are *no config files in /etc/ltsp
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| 20:11 | <mikec> and I get this a lot in the logs
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| 20:11 | Cannot retrieve node '<appservername>', error:<class 'socket.error'>
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| 20:48 | <ltspuser_36> Can anyone speak Spanish fluently?
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| 20:48 | Hello
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| 20:48 | <elias_a> ltspuser_36: Not on this channel as far as I know.
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| 20:52 | <ltspuser_36> Well, thanks anyway and good luck.
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