IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 19 December 2006 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:52 | <Kamping_Kaiser> ltsp is architecture agnoitic isnt it?. i'm thinking about netbooting PCs from a sunblade 150
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| 03:53 | PC's=intel based things
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| 03:54 | <sep> Kamping_Kaiser, if you know what your doing that should not be a problem, the chroot that the clients mount as thir root must ofcouse match the clients
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| 03:54 | <Kamping_Kaiser> i should be able to manage that, so thats cool. thanks for the answer :)
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| 03:59 | <chsch> Hi! We are using ltsp with fujitsu siemens A200 thin clients (X driver: fbdev). rdesktop works properly on one screen and kdm appears on the another one. The first problem: after logging in with kdm (fullscreen) the kde session (ubuntu 6.06) does not use the full screen. There is a blue border on the left and bottom of the screen. Any ideas?
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| 04:00 | <chsch> The second problem: parts of kdm (screen 2) sometimes appear on the rdesktop screen (screen 0) making it unusable.
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| 05:45 | <vaineh> id like to hide all the text you see when booting, is a bootsplash what im after?
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| 05:49 | <dchristiaan> hi there ...
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| 05:49 | need help about Scanner on LTSP 4.2 ..
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| 05:52 | hi there ...
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| 05:52 | anybody here ?
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| 06:00 | <cliebow> vaineh:i guess so..ive never used it
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| 06:04 | <Darke-_> gday cliebow
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| 06:04 | :]
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| 06:04 | <cliebow> hey!!
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| 06:04 | how are you making out??
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| 06:04 | <Darke-_> nice
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| 06:05 | im reading your ltsp + ldap page now
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| 06:05 | :]
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| 06:05 | <cliebow> ohh:makae any sesne at all?
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| 06:05 | <Darke-_> yes, dont worrie :)
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| 06:05 | <cliebow> every time i go back to it i say to meself..wow that is old!
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| 06:06 | <Darke-_> hehe
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| 06:06 | well, im just reading it thrue atm.
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| 06:06 | <cliebow> holler if i can make less sense of it for you 8`)
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| 06:08 | all the links a re borked siince i rebuilt that server
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| 06:12 | <cliebow> i didnt write all that ldapa stuff
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| 06:14 | <cliebow> Darke-_:i can send you the bash script i use to set em up if you like
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| 06:14 | <Darke-_> oh, sure. Thanks
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| 06:15 | <cliebow> ill look for you from school..
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| 06:15 | in ubuntu?
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| 06:16 | <Darke-_> hold on a sec cliebow, phonecall.
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| 06:20 | <Darke-_> cliebow: in ubuntu ?
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| 06:20 | :)
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| 06:21 | <cliebow> you using ubuntu?
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| 06:21 | edgy?
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| 06:22 | <Darke-_> not on this machine no
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| 06:22 | for the ltsp server its edubuntu atm
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| 06:22 | if thats what you are asking
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| 06:22 | <cliebow> edubuntu it works..just set up two of em
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| 06:22 | in a school?
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| 06:23 | <Darke-_> ah, well havnt looked into it alot yet.. Just read thrue the documentation.. Always good to do, might not always use edubuntu for it so.
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| 06:23 | <cliebow> gota run to school
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| 06:23 | <Darke-_> Ok
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| 06:23 | <cliebow> i think the script gives a alot of insight into what needs doing
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| 06:40 | <dchristiaan> hi ...
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| 06:56 | <dchristiaan> hi everone
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| 06:59 | <markit> hi, newbie question... is it possible having compriz and all those nice 3D effects with ltsp?
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| 07:02 | <sep> markit, i expect that would require some awsome thin clients with great gfx cards and take a lot of bandwith
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| 07:02 | markit, none of my thin clients have gfx chips with 3d capabilities atlest.
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| 07:03 | markit, if you use ltsp to run diskless workstations then yes you can use whatever you like
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| 07:03 | <markit> sep: maybe "next generation" will ;) or mini-itx has
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| 07:04 | but is the xgl part already included in ltsp?
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| 07:06 | <sep> markit, the new ltsp builds the chroot for the client from the packages of the host system,
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| 07:07 | so you should rather check what is in the packages of the ltsp server.
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| 07:07 | <markit> ok, thanks
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| 07:08 | wondering how much bandwidth will eating each client
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| 08:28 | <jammcq> hey all
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| 08:28 | <ogra> yo jammcq
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| 08:29 | <jammcq> hello oliver
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| 09:01 | <Petaris> Hello
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| 09:01 | Has anyone here done authentication to Active Directory?
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| 09:06 | <cliebow_> Petaris:via winbind..yes
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| 09:07 | <Petaris> cliebow_: I have been using sadms (which uses windbind) but I have been having issues
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| 09:08 | <cliebow_> mine lost its mind once in a while..i had to restart sambahoutlry just to be sure
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| 09:08 | <Petaris> my users logon but sometimes the system will not let them logon again until I delete their local home directory on the server
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| 09:08 | its odd
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| 09:08 | and annoying
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| 09:09 | <cliebow_> very odd..never had to go there..
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| 09:09 | <Petaris> also, on occasion I will have to reset their password to get it to log them on
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| 09:09 | what distro?
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| 09:09 | <cliebow_> recreate the homedir?
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| 09:09 | <cliebow_> back then redhat 9
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| 09:10 | <Petaris> no, just delete the homedir and let it recreate it when they log on
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| 09:10 | ahh
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| 09:10 | I am using ubuntu
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| 09:10 | er, edubuntu
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| 09:10 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 09:10 | <cliebow_> you can look at my old configs on the wiki
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| 09:10 | <Petaris> Hi sbalneav
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| 09:10 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:10 | <sbalneav> Hey jammcq!
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| 09:11 | <cliebow_> Scott.James!
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| 09:11 | <Petaris> cliebow_: did you have it automatically map their home directories via pam_mount?
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| 09:11 | Hi jammcq
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| 09:12 | <cliebow_> yes..at the end..was a hell of a job tofirst get it working for mr
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| 09:12 | <Petaris> yeah, wasn't fun for me either
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| 09:12 | though sadms did make the configuration easier
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| 09:12 | <Petaris> but there is not a lot of support behind it
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| 09:13 | I know the ubuntu group is going to have a network auth module but last I heard no code had been produced yet
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| 09:14 | <jammcq> hey Petaris
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| 09:15 | <cliebow_> Petaris:#ubuntu-directory-server
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| 09:15 | i think.
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| 09:16 | moquist is on it ogra i think
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| 09:16 | i know
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| 09:16 | <Petaris> theres a channel for it?
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| 09:16 | cool
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| 09:17 | <cliebow_> Petaris: i think they are starting from edsadmin
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| 09:18 | <Petaris> hrm, channel is empty
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| 09:18 | is it on freenode?
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| 09:18 | never heard of edsadmin
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| 09:18 | I'll google it
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| 09:19 | <cliebow_> apt-get install edsadmin..i found you need python-crypto as well
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| 09:19 | <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-network-auth-server
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| 09:19 | <Petaris> hrm
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| 09:19 | Hi ogra
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| 09:19 | <ogra> its *not* the ubuntu-directory-server
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| 09:20 | ubuntu will likely build something different here, all we will do is include smbladp by default, its very likely that ubuntu will go a different path
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| 09:21 | <Petaris> ogra: that looks more like using ubuntu as a network auth server
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| 09:21 | I was inquiring about authenticating to Active Directory
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| 09:21 | <ogra> there is also a client spec
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| 09:21 | <Petaris> ahh
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| 09:22 | <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-network-auth-client
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| 09:23 | <Petaris> hrm
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| 09:26 | that client seems only intended to be used with the edubuntu-auth-server
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| 09:27 | or can it also be used to auth against active directory and edirectory
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| 09:28 | <ogra> its the default client that will be used in ubuntu as well, but probably with pam-mount enhancement
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| 09:28 | <Petaris> ok
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| 09:28 | but will it be able to auth to AD and eDirectory?
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| 09:29 | <ogra> no idea
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| 09:29 | <Petaris> hrm
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| 09:29 | <ogra> the focus for edubuntu is to atuth against the edubuntu server first place
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| 09:30 | <Petaris> you mean the ltsp clients right?
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| 09:30 | <ogra> no
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| 09:30 | <Petaris> I know that, but I'm talking about the users
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| 09:30 | <ogra> all "client systems"
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| 09:31 | <Petaris> oh
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| 09:31 | <ogra> or lets better say "sessions"
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| 09:32 | <Petaris> but what about user authentication
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| 09:32 | is there something then that can be done server side
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| 09:33 | that would allow the user auth to stem from either AD or eDirectory?
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| 09:33 | there are a lot of orginizations that use one of those two products
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| 09:46 | <moquist> Petaris: edubuntu-network-auth-client depends on ajmitch's authtool, which supports AD and LDAP (and I don't remember what else).
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| 09:51 | <Petaris> moquist: ahh, ok
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| 09:52 | <moquist> ogra: BTW, I think edsadmin is basically ready to go except that sorting and searching in the main window are, at best, limited. We need separate columns for first and last names, and they need to be sortable. The entire form should be searchable.
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| 09:53 | ogra: I've been working on the sorting but I'm having to learn GTK as I go and I haven't had a breakthrough yet. :\
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| 09:54 | <jammcq> hey, it's O'Quist
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| 09:54 | <moquist> ogra: The problem is that once you have more than, say, 30 users, it becomes a big pain to find people in the list.
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| 09:54 | jammcq: hi'ya. I'm Irish.
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| 09:58 | <ogra> moquist, oki, i'll look into that, for now i just want the package in ...
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| 09:58 | * moquist nods | |
| 10:00 | <moquist> ogra: Mark's already got a .deb available. I expect we'll have to solidify the deps list for Ubuntu, but does much more need to be done?
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| 10:02 | <ogra> i have it here, just didnt have the time to merge in your patches and test it yet
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| 10:17 | <efra> Morning everybody
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| 10:20 | <moquist> efra: mornin'
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| 10:20 | <guybrush> hi...
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| 10:21 | <guybrush> I have one...
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| 10:21 | I've just switch to 4.2
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| 10:21 | and now each keystroke in
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| 10:21 | te terminals is repeated..6 times..
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| 10:22 | so now I need super fast users.
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| 10:23 | Does anyoine already have the super fast users lack problem ?
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| 10:26 | <guybrush> hmm
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| 10:27 | <uwe> guybrush, all over, in gui and terminal ?
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| 10:27 | or just in X ?
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| 10:32 | <guybrush> just in X
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| 10:32 | kernel 2.6.16.1-ltsp1
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| 10:35 | btw the xkbxxxxxx directives are silently ignored in the build_x4_cfg
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| 10:36 | sorry it was .. .2.6.17-ltsp1
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| 10:36 | sorry it was .. .2.6.17.8-ltsp1
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| 10:37 | <sbalneav> guybrush: Can you paste your lts.conf file to the pastebot?
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| 10:37 | !pastebot
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| 10:37 | <ltspbot_> sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp
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| 10:37 | <str4nd> hmm, how long takes edgy+ltsp5 installation?
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| 10:38 | <str4nd> anyone know?
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| 10:38 | <sbalneav> str4nd: it will take a while
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| 10:38 | <str4nd> sbalneav: yes, but how long :P
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| 10:38 | sbalneav: "default" settings etc.
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| 10:38 | <ogra> depends on your network speed
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| 10:39 | <sbalneav> Depends on your network speed.
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| 10:39 | doh
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| 10:39 | <str4nd> ogra: 1000Mbps :P
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| 10:39 | <ogra> str4nd, to yopur ISP ? WOW !
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| 10:39 | <sbalneav> Really? You have a gigabit connection to your internet?
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| 10:39 | Wow
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| 10:39 | <str4nd> ogra: School connection :P
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| 10:39 | <sbalneav> What's the SCHOOL's internet speed?
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| 10:39 | <ogra> then it should be really fast, some minutes only
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| 10:41 | <str4nd> ok :)
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| 10:42 | nearly straight connection to NORDUnet
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| 10:44 | i buy some scsi disks to edgy+ltsp5 now
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| 10:45 | <mrlinux> has anyone had any problems with flash
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| 10:48 | <guybrush> pastebot ?
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| 10:50 | <mrlinux> how do i mount cdrom drives for my client machines
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| 10:58 | <mrlinux> anyone
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| 11:21 | <guybrush> Hey ... if the last line of the ltsp.conf dont have a \n ... mmm
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| 11:36 | <vykarian> hey guys
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| 11:37 | did someone have trouble recordingo the rom-o-matic images to EPROMs?
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| 11:41 | <sbalneav> vykarian: It will depend entirely on your eprom burner.
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| 11:42 | Plus, are you sure your card can read a 27c256?
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| 11:42 | <vykarian> yeap :(
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| 11:42 | i tried out the zpxe and zrom
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| 11:43 | <sbalneav> What card are you trying to use?
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| 11:46 | <vykarian> thats an Allied Telesyn RTL8139
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| 11:49 | <sbalneav> From when I was using the RTL's, I remembered I had to boot into dos, and use the supplied floppy to program the card to enable using the rom chip
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| 11:49 | At least, on the cards I had.
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| 11:49 | Otherwise, they'd ignore the rom.
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| 11:50 | <vykarian> eyah, i thinked about that
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| 11:50 | the box is now running netware remote boot
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| 12:19 | <RD58> Senhores boa tarde to afim de instalar ltsp num cyber cafe de baixo custo
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| 12:19 | sera que vale a pena?
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| 12:19 | e dificil trabalhar com essa tecnologia?
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| 12:22 | <asa> 'e facil !!!!!! 'e legal!
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| 12:24 | <RD58> certo
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| 12:24 | que bom
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| 12:24 | eu ainda to meio perdido
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| 12:24 | na ideia
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| 12:24 | vc teria uma pagina onde eu podesse pesquisar melhor?
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| 12:25 | asa >é instalavei em debian e rede hat sem bronca né?
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| 12:25 | red
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| 12:34 | <asa> na pagina do ltsp vc ten documentazao de mais!
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| 12:34 | procure!
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| 12:36 | <RD58> ok
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| 12:37 | <RD58> amigo isso aqui ta me parecendo mais um daqueles canais de ajuda que nao funcionam
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| 12:37 | desculpe a franquesa
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| 12:37 | cd o povo
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| 12:37 | help
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| 12:37 | ei cd vcs?
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| 12:38 | aqui ta parecendo o canal do suse-br
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| 12:39 | <efra> RD58: maybe if you speak english. Otherwise we can't understand
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| 12:39 | <RD58> se nao entendesse tinha ficado calado
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| 12:39 | huahuahuahuahu
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| 12:40 | <asa> cara serio.. aqui todo munda fala ingleish...
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| 12:40 | <RD58> e ainda talvez
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| 12:40 | eu quero e certeza
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| 12:40 | <asa> RTFM
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| 12:42 | <RD58> asa.ok
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| 12:42 | desculpe
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| 12:42 | sorry
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| 12:42 | huhuhuhuu
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| 12:43 | asa>cara na boa o muito interessado nesse tal de ltsp
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| 12:43 | mas no site em portuga to achando uma coisa meio fraquinha
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| 12:43 | e embolado
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| 12:43 | vc tenta baixar os docs e nao baixa
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| 12:59 | <vykarian> english, please :P
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| 13:15 | <asa> intente en espanhol...
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| 13:25 | <jammcq> hoohaaa
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| 13:26 | <vykarian> =]
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| 14:01 | * vagrantc stares at the as-yet-unreviewed spanish translation for ltsp | |
| 14:02 | * vagrantc gets impatient | |
| 14:02 | <vagrantc> the second i get that, i'm going to get a new upload to debian.
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| 14:19 | <bill_c> hey guys, localmedia, on this box, root can mount thumbdrive and see files
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| 14:19 | users see icon on desktop, but do not have perms to see media dir
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| 14:20 | <jammcq> bill_c ?
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| 14:20 | is it really you?
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| 14:20 | <bill_c> i know :)
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| 14:20 | I'm bad
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| 14:21 | <jammcq> baaaad, but that's ok, we'll still be nice to you
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| 14:21 | you doing local devices?
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| 14:21 | <bill_c> :)
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| 14:21 | yeah at one of the schools here in MO
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| 14:21 | <jammcq> using LTSP-4.2 ?
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| 14:21 | <bill_c> yeah 4.2
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| 14:21 | <jammcq> make sure your users are members of the 'fuse' group
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| 14:22 | <bill_c> went through debug steps in wiki, and got past all the errors out of script
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| 14:22 | on suse, so no fuse group
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| 14:24 | <jammcq> ok, what's the ownership of /dev/fuse ?
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| 14:24 | and perms
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| 14:24 | <sbalneav> What's the server? 64 bit?
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| 14:24 | <bill_c> root:root and set to 777 for testing :)
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| 14:25 | 32 bit sles9
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| 14:25 | <jammcq> hmm, that seems like it should work. sbalneav you have anything to add ?
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| 14:25 | did you have to build the fuse module for that?
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| 14:25 | some suse's don't include it
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| 14:25 | <bill_c> hi scotti :)
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| 14:25 | jammcq: yeah I built it
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| 14:25 | <sbalneav> So, at what point on the checklist does it fail?
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| 14:26 | <bill_c> sbalneav: works when logged in as root perfectly, but as user, it mounts on device, creates icon on desktop, mounts to server, but user has no permission to access folder
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| 14:26 | and neither does root have perms to access when logged in a user
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| 14:26 | <sbalneav> what's the ownership of the fusermount binary?
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| 14:27 | <bill_c> root:root, suid/guid
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| 14:27 | <sbalneav> 755?
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| 14:27 | <bill_c> yeah
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| 14:28 | <sbalneav> what version of fuse?
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| 14:28 | <bill_c> 2.5.2
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| 14:28 | <sbalneav> What version kernel?
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| 14:28 | <bill_c> 2.6.5-7
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| 14:28 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 14:29 | what happens if you try to run the command: ltspfs ws00x:/tmp $HOME/foo
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| 14:29 | you'll want to do this on an xterm on the terminal, as the user you're logged in as.
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| 14:31 | <bill_c> where should ltspfs be? Not in my path
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| 14:32 | <sbalneav> What package did you install on the server for localdev?
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| 14:32 | the redhat one?
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| 14:32 | It should be in /usr/bin I beleive.
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| 14:32 | <bill_c> ahh ok, I'll list the rpm
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| 14:34 | <bill_c> sbalneav: ok no error from the ltspfs command
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| 14:34 | <sbalneav> you got what looks like a workstations' /tmp drive in foo?
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| 14:34 | cd foo ; ls
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| 14:35 | <bill_c> permission denied to the foo dir
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| 14:35 | as user and root
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| 14:36 | <sbalneav> Well, it will be as root
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| 14:36 | shouldn't be as user.
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| 14:37 | Do you have sshfs installed on the box?
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| 14:37 | <bill_c> no
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| 14:37 | <sbalneav> Sounds to me like your fuse install is broken.
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| 14:38 | <bill_c> what version of fuse you recommend?
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| 14:38 | <sbalneav> 2.5 should be fine.
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| 14:39 | <bill_c> ok I'll try more recent kernel, it works great on some of my other boxes with more current kernel
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| 14:40 | <sbalneav> Did you work through the checklist? What did you get for step 4?
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| 14:40 | <bill_c> yeah, ws240.ltsp
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| 14:41 | everything works if I log in as root on the terminal
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| 14:42 | but logging out and back in as user, goes through all the motions, I can see it mounted in mount, just no perms for users to access
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| 14:42 | I did have some trouble getting fuse to build with 2.6.5 kernel though....
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| 14:52 | <bill_c> hey thanks jammcq sbalneav I'll try rebuilding fuse and upgrading kernel
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| 15:01 | <mrlinux> i have a problem with flash
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| 15:02 | <sbalneav> Same problem as the other day?
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| 15:03 | Hello?
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| 15:04 | mrlinux: same problem as the other day?
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| 15:04 | <mrlinux> actualy
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| 15:04 | i have fixed it
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| 15:04 | just
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| 15:04 | now i can run flash on my clients
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| 15:04 | want to know how
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| 15:06 | i installed flash 9
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| 15:06 | i installed flash 9 BETA
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| 15:07 | <sbalneav> So, you said "i have fixed it", so is it working now or not?
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| 15:07 | <mrlinux> yes i fixed it just 2 minutes ago
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| 15:08 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 15:19 | <vykarian> nice guy
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| 15:20 | sbalneav, my eprom burner is up and running =\
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| 15:20 | i even changed the NICs for 3Com
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| 15:20 | but it still can't work with rom-o-matic roms =\
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| 15:20 | (already tried zrom and zpxe)
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| 15:21 | <sbalneav> Well, zpxe isn't a rom
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| 15:21 | <vykarian> the devide just ignore that - and within others eproms burned due others images (netware) it works fine :(
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| 15:21 | device*
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| 15:21 | <sbalneav> zrom would be what you want
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| 15:22 | <vykarian> yeah, that was to avoid the "vanilla ice cream error"
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| 15:22 | <sbalneav> Well, I'd post a message to the etherboot mailing list.
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| 15:22 | <vykarian> wow, i'll try to finger it out overthere =]
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| 15:23 | <vykarian> ?
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| 15:23 | sorry ?
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| 15:24 | <sbalneav> Subscribe to the etherboot mailing list, and posting your troubles there.
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| 15:24 | Perhaps someone can help you on the etherboot mailing list.
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| 15:29 | <vykarian> ty sbalneav
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| 15:29 | gotta sleep
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| 15:29 | ty
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| 15:34 | <yanu> i want to make a user "visitor" and the only thing that start, aside from X, is firefox
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| 15:35 | how do i do that?
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| 15:35 | <vagrantc> what distro?
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| 15:35 | <yanu> i don't want to see the posible wm's
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| 15:35 | <sbalneav> Set up a custom .xsession file
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| 15:35 | <yanu> ubuntu edgy, with ltsp5
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| 15:36 | but i 'll still see the wm-list?
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| 15:36 | <vagrantc> yanu: you want it to automatically log in?
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| 15:37 | <yanu> no, just if user visitor enters with username and passwd, only firefox may come on screen
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| 15:37 | i can make a wm-file, but then there will always be the choises of kde, gnome, fvwm ...
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| 15:37 | <vagrantc> without hacking ldm, there's probably no way to do that
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| 15:38 | <yanu> so , we need to hack ldm ...
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| 15:39 | hmm, ldm, that's not a script, i suppose ...
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| 15:39 | another thingy, gnome-menu-editor doesn't seem to exist anymore ...
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| 15:40 | <vagrantc> yanu: in /opt/ltsp/ARCH/usr/lib/ltsp/greeters/gtk, comment out the self.draw_buttons() line with a #
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| 15:40 | i *think* that should work. that will also disable language selection, though.
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| 15:40 | <sbalneav> yanu: it's under preferences, Menu Layout
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| 15:42 | <yanu> hmm , its a python script
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| 15:42 | <vagrantc> yanu: there might be a better way to disable it, but i think that will work. but if you upgrade the ldm package, your changes will be overwritten.
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| 15:43 | <yanu> vagrantc: i'll try it out, upgrading no problem, there will be no upgrading, no internet at that place ...
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| 15:44 | <vagrantc> yanu: just figured i'd warn you.
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| 16:17 | <yanu> vagrantc: .xinitrc doesnt work, where does ldm looks for startkde, gnome-session, fvmw2, metacity, ... ?
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| 16:17 | (don't know python)
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| 16:34 | <daniQ> cliebow!
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| 16:59 | <cliebow> daniQ:!!
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| 16:59 | <daniQ> how goes it?
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| 16:59 | <cliebow> trying to get packed for Philly
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| 17:00 | <daniQ> ahhhhh...
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| 17:00 | <cliebow> you found a house?
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| 17:00 | <daniQ> will you have time after the holidays to make the microsoft side work?
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| 17:01 | house thing is in motion...they took our offer but i'm not celebrating yet...it still has to pass the house inspection and some other things are pending
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| 17:01 | should i comem get a key?
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| 17:10 | <cliebow> sure..come get a akey..dont mind if we're paacking?
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| 17:10 | leoigh is not up to come bring one..
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| 17:24 | <daniQ> i didn't have you guys going until the 22
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| 17:30 | <cliebow> we leave fri morn early..but leigh hasdog class tomorrow.and ill have to sleep thurs night
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| 17:32 | <daniQ> ohhh
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| 17:33 | <cliebow> like 3 am
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| 17:34 | <daniQ> i'll drop by at 7is or so to get key if that's ok...i'm too lazy to get up and walk over now...
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| 17:34 | 3am...ick!
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| 17:35 | <killsalad> Hi all!
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| 17:36 | <daniQ> why would you want to kill a salad?
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| 17:37 | <cliebow> huh?
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| 17:37 | <killsalad> well because salad is very evil vegetable ;)
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| 17:37 | <cliebow> NO!!! biiunnicula!
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| 17:38 | <daniQ> i suppose....if it's evil you would have to
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| 17:38 | ha!
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| 17:41 | <killsalad> ok, i've got a problem with my LTSP, wolud you help me?
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| 17:43 | <cliebow> i can try!!
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| 17:45 | <killsalad> so i have Ubuntu 6.10 and i've installed official LTSP-4.2u2
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| 17:45 | <cliebow> good start
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| 17:47 | <killsalad> client is booting but when comes to X it goes into infinite loop, X is starting but i can't see a login screen
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| 17:47 | <cliebow> is it intel video?
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| 17:48 | <killsalad> no, it's old
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| 17:48 | RIVA TNT :D
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| 17:48 | sory S3 trio
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| 17:48 | <cliebow> so you caan tryu the nv driver
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| 17:48 | ohhh s3 then
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| 17:48 | <killsalad> but it is not the driver problem
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| 17:48 | X do not complain
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| 17:49 | <cliebow> try it with vesa foor starters
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| 17:49 | <killsalad> it is rather something with xdmcp
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| 17:50 | <cliebow> xdmcp is running?
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| 17:50 | <killsalad> yes - well netstat lists it
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| 17:50 | of course i use gdm
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| 17:51 | <cliebow> an old monitor too?
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| 17:51 | <killsalad> no new one
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| 17:51 | <cliebow> still seems like x overdriving thre monitor
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| 17:51 | <killsalad> samsung 17" LCD
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| 17:52 | <cliebow> try specifying vesa foirr the hell of it
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| 17:52 | <killsalad> ok, i'll give a shot
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| 17:53 | maybe i'll connect previous monitor
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| 17:55 | i forgot to mention but, there is other LTSP server, but i comented out lines connected to
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| 17:55 | this workstation
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| 17:56 | <cliebow> it mkight get dhcp from it
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| 17:56 | \which would mount wrong server
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| 17:57 | unless yopu meant to saAY THAT
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| 17:58 | <killsalad> well, in old server i comented out lines that refer to this client
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| 17:58 | in old server's DHCP - sory
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| 17:59 | <cliebow> k
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| 18:00 | <killsalad> hm, ltspcfg complains also about runlevel
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| 18:00 | is this a real problem?
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| 18:08 | <cliebow> runlevel is not an option in 4.2
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| 18:08 | screen_01\
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| 18:09 | <killsalad> shell
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| 18:10 | <cliebow> you are using a 2.6 kernel of course for 4.2
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| 18:10 | <killsalad> yes
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| 18:10 | 2.6.17.3 or something like this
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| 18:11 | <cliebow> so screen_01=shell in lts.conf..then you type startx and it barfs
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| 18:11 | <killsalad> yes,
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| 18:11 | <cliebow> if we keep talikng one of the smart people will interject
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| 18:11 | <killsalad> same of course when screen_01 = startx
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| 18:12 | <Gadi> killsalad: do you have a shell on the terminal?
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| 18:12 | <cliebow> see..i told you 8~)
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| 18:13 | <Gadi> told me?
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| 18:13 | <killsalad> ok
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| 18:13 | i have shell on the terminal
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| 18:13 | <cliebow> \i said..if we keep talking one of the illluminati will interject
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| 18:14 | <Gadi> heh, cliebow, I thought you were our leader
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| 18:14 | <cliebow> in spirit only 8~).l.lid like to..just dont have the ackground
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| 18:14 | <Gadi> killsalad: ok, now, you run startx and it blinks for a while, right?
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| 18:15 | then, eventually, it stops and gets you back to a shell prompt
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| 18:15 | is that correct?
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| 18:15 | <killsalad> well it cannot establish connection with server
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| 18:16 | <Gadi> are you using XFS?
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| 18:16 | <killsalad> when i type startx it blinks, X cursor shows
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| 18:16 | <Gadi> (USE_XFS = Y)?
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| 18:16 | ah, X cursor shows
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| 18:16 | <killsalad> no USE_XFS = N
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| 18:16 | <Gadi> nevermind
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| 18:16 | thats improtant
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| 18:16 | you get a grey screen
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| 18:16 | sounds like its either: a. trying to connect to the wrong server
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| 18:16 | <killsalad> yes, for second, then black, and again
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| 18:17 | <Gadi> (are yousure it was booted from the correct LTSP server)
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| 18:17 | <killsalad> gray with X
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| 18:17 | <Gadi> or b. you have a firewall up blocking ports on the server
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| 18:17 | <Gadi> do you have any firewalls up?
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| 18:17 | <killsalad> I won't be sure untli i'll connect only server and client
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| 18:18 | <Gadi> well, you can always run: startx -query <IP>
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| 18:18 | from the shell
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| 18:18 | <killsalad> no firewall on the server, but i have router
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| 18:18 | <Gadi> then, you will be sure you are trying to connect to the X server
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| 18:18 | is the router between server and client?
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| 18:18 | <killsalad> no
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| 18:18 | <Gadi> ie: different subnets?
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| 18:18 | <killsalad> only 1 subnet
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| 18:19 | <Gadi> ok
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| 18:19 | try: startx -query <server IP>
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| 18:19 | and see if that brings it up
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| 18:19 | <killsalad> ok, i'll try tomorow
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| 18:19 | <Gadi> not good having 2 LTSP servers connected to the same switch
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| 18:20 | <cliebow> make sure server= in lts.conf is what it should be
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| 18:20 | <Gadi> it will almost always cause problems or confusion
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| 18:20 | gotta grab some dinner
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| 18:20 | bbiab
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| 18:20 | <killsalad> server = <new.serv.ip>
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| 18:20 | ok i'll try
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| 18:21 | gotta get some sleep
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| 18:21 | <Gadi> since X comes up, its most likely not a problem with the x server config
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| 18:21 | more likely a problem connecting togdm
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| 18:21 | also check the maximum allowed connections in gdm
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| 18:21 | (or restart gdm on the server)\
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| 18:21 | l8r
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| 18:21 | <killsalad> thanks
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| 18:22 | for advice
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| 18:22 | i'll back soon
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| 18:22 | ;)
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| 18:22 | cya
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| 18:28 | <cliebow> thanks Gadi!
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| 18:30 | <vagrantc> yanu: like i said earlier, in the user's home directory, .xsession
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| 18:30 | yanu: i.e. /home/USER/.xsession
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| 18:39 | <J45p3r> cliebow: sent new linux FC client to your FC account
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| 18:44 | <cliebow> oh cool!!
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| 18:44 | analagous to the winders one?
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| 18:46 | the fcnc finished..i started the server..and saw some activity..could that server have picked up sosme email?
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| 18:46 | pulled the plug immediatley
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| 18:54 | <vagrantc> yay. just got the brazilian portuguese translation updated. so that means a complete translation for french, german, and brazilian portuguese, with a complete translation for spanish and catalan on the way. :)
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| 18:58 | <J45p3r> no, I don't think there is anyway it could get any email as long as it isn't set to 10.10.0.8
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| 19:18 | <rjune> howdy
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| 19:27 | <cliebow> J45p3r: i rather thought that..but it did some weird updatey type thing..i thought i should let y'all know
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| 19:28 | <rjune> cliebow: !
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| 19:29 | ok, SOMEBODY here uses frontpage. would that person please PM me
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| 19:29 | <vagrantc> rather than admitting it publicly?
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| 19:31 | <rjune> yup
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| 19:36 | <daniQ> cliebow - i got my picts from the "dark side"....thanks!!!
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| 19:37 | <Snerf> anyone can provide any help/assistance to using rdesktop with ltsp.. trying to get a local floppy to work, but there is no /mnt/floppy or even /dev/fd0 .. is that disabled by default in ltsp ?
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| 19:44 | <rjune> Snerf: check in tomorrow between 0900 and 1700 EST
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| 19:44 | <Snerf> crappy.. thats when I work :)
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| 19:44 | oh well. see what i can do
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| 19:46 | <rjune> this a work or a home project?
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| 19:47 | <Snerf> work
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| 19:47 | <dchristiaan> hi all ..
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| 19:47 | <Snerf> but not irc at work
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| 19:47 | <dchristiaan> anybody can help me about Scanner on LTSP Client ?
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| 19:56 | <cliebow> daniQ: glad to be of service
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| 20:00 | <daniQ> the video's won't play...totem is mean....evil?
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| 20:01 | <rjune> daniQ: do you have the win32codecs installed?
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| 20:02 | <daniQ> huh?
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| 20:02 | where do i find them to install?
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| 20:02 | <cliebow> daniQ:i think we did that.
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| 20:02 | i think we have vlc installed
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| 20:04 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278
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| 20:05 | <daniQ> i'm gonna give up for the night....thanks...night
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| 20:05 | <cliebow> bookmark thata..or google for ubuntu win32-codecs
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| 20:09 | <daniQ> k..
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| 20:19 | <bushboy> LTSP-4.2 is great
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| 20:19 | <cliebow> 8~)
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| 20:19 | <bushboy> I especially like the new localdev support
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| 20:19 | <cliebow> it gets even better!!!!
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| 20:20 | sound is the next hump to get over
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| 20:20 | <bushboy> I have had sound running with esound
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| 20:20 | <bdole42> I'm working on sound and local USB device access now myself
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| 20:20 | <bushboy> works nicely
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| 20:21 | <bdole42> Sound's being a pain though, every time I add "SMODULE_01= sb xxx yyy zzz" it tells me that I have an error on that line
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| 20:21 | <cliebow> xxx yyyy zzz?
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| 20:21 | <bdole42> irq, io, and dma settings
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| 20:22 | <cliebow> so it is an isa card?
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| 20:22 | <bushboy> pci makes life easy
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| 20:22 | <bdole42> It's a Capio 508 with built-in SoundBlaster emulation
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| 20:22 | No PCI slots at all
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| 20:23 | SMODULE_01=sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1
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| 20:23 | <cliebow> rjune was here a minute ago..hes done some of the sound work
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| 20:23 | <bdole42> I can't find the client dmesg log anywhere though
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| 20:23 | It has a variety of messages about /dev/dsp not existing too.
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| 20:23 | So I'm doing a bunch of reading and googling.
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| 20:24 | <cliebow> did you set screen_01 to shell aand look on the client?
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| 20:24 | <bdole42> I set screen 2 to shell but I can't seem to switch to it. Haven't done 01 yet, but I can try it
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| 20:25 | <cliebow> worth a ashot..i dont know off top of balad head where to look
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| 20:25 | <bdole42> This is the most I've ever done with Linux and I'm having a blast
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| 20:25 | <bushboy> what distro?
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| 20:25 | <cliebow> It is not trivial what you have done so far
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| 20:25 | <bdole42> Ubuntu Server 6.10 with kubuntu-desktop loaded on top
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| 20:26 | <bushboy> ah
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| 20:26 | I'm using debian myself
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| 20:26 | <bdole42> I have plenty of Windows (and DOS) experience, so CLI is not scary
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| 20:26 | <cliebow> i think rjune is quite proficient with kde
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| 20:26 | <bdole42> In fact, once I have up on trying to use KDE/Gnome I found it much easier to use
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| 20:26 | But I have KDE on there for the wife
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| 20:26 | <bushboy> ah
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| 20:27 | I prefer the bare bones fluxbox or icewm
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| 20:27 | <rjune> I still am
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| 20:27 | <cliebow> i run icewm with nautilus on top in redhat for production server\\
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| 20:27 | rjune :1!!!!!!
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| 20:27 | <bdole42> Ubuntu/Suse are the only ones that I have used so far.
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| 20:27 | Deciding which distro was the hardest part :)
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| 20:28 | But I liked the philosphy being Ubuntu/edubuntu so I decided to stick with it
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| 20:28 | <rjune> bdole42: <ctrl>-<alt.>-<FX> will switch away from X
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| 20:28 | <cliebow> ive used all mananer of fedoras and rh..libranet..breeazy dapper edgy
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| 20:28 | <rjune> at a regular text console, use <alt>-<FX>
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| 20:28 | where X is a number from 1 - 12
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| 20:28 | <bdole42> rjune: I found that F2 (which should take me to screen_02,) only took me to a monitor in sleep mode
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| 20:28 | <rjune> bdole42: you using old soundblaster ISA cards or something?
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| 20:28 | <cliebow> i have a a stciky a key
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| 20:29 | <bdole42> Yes, it's sb emulation built into the Capio 508
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| 20:29 | It was free, so it's now my client
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| 20:29 | <cliebow> free is good
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| 20:29 | <bdole42> Just checking sound on my VMWare client
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| 20:29 | <bushboy> freebies are great
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| 20:29 | <cliebow> sosmetimes 8~)
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| 20:29 | <bushboy> I use so much garbage for ltsp terminals
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| 20:30 | <cliebow> heh..ive used nubus mac for clients
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| 20:30 | <bushboy> LOL
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| 20:30 | <cliebow> a awhole lab full..20
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| 20:30 | <bdole42> There is a slight X problem where the some pixels on edges of windows go missing or are "speckled", but other than that it runs amazing for 300MHz/32MB RAM
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| 20:30 | <dberkholz> i've got 2 of those at home
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| 20:30 | that'd be fun to use
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| 20:31 | <cliebow> it was so awesome the first time i used rdesktop on a mac running redhat
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| 20:31 | <bdole42> I have a PPC Performa 6360 I'm thinking about trying as a client
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| 20:31 | <bushboy> I still have my old commadore stuff but little chance there
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| 20:31 | <bdole42> Don't bet on it
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| 20:31 | <cliebow> bdle42: my best clients are 200 mhz aquantas
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| 20:32 | <bdole42> Have you seen the TCP stack and WWW server someone's hacked up for the C64
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| 20:32 | Plus a windowing GUI to boot.
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| 20:32 | Plus there's a VNC client for the C64 too
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| 20:32 | <cliebow> bdole42:the limiting factor is the network card..
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| 20:33 | <bushboy> anyone here use phiget usb sensor kits? I want to rig an ltsp terminal up to monitor my fish tanks
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| 20:33 | <cliebow> the sonic cards are useless..i used daynaport laydown nubus cards
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| 20:33 | on the 5260..the 6100 builtin cards worked fine as is
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| 20:34 | <bushboy> lol
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| 20:34 | vnc on C64
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| 20:35 | <bdole42> They have a streaming audio server. Streams 2000 Hz 1 bit audio direct from the cassette recorder
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| 20:38 | <cliebow> heh: if you are around i cana lok it up at school tomorrow
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| 20:38 | <bushboy> cool
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| 20:39 | <cliebow> my collection is there..
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| 20:39 | <rjune> bdole42: I'm sorry, ISA cards don't really work with LTSP very well
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| 20:40 | <cliebow> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8833
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| 20:40 | bushboy:http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8833
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| 20:42 | <bushboy> neat
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| 20:42 | <bdole42> rjune: I figured that might be the case. It's a dream, and something I'll bang my head against when I'm bored :)
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| 20:42 | <rjune> does the machine have a PCI slot?
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| 20:45 | <bushboy> http://www.phidgets.com/index.php?module=pncommerce&func=itemview&IID=116
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| 20:45 | I was going to use that to control it all
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| 20:45 | connects via usb and there is a C API for linux
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| 20:45 | <bushboy> has 8 Analog Inputs, 8 Digital Inputs and 8 Digital Outputs
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| 20:45 | <bdole42> rjune: No, it's very bare-bones
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| 20:45 | <cliebow> i am out of my league here..bushboy..
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| 20:45 | <bushboy> me too
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| 20:45 | thats the fun part
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| 20:45 | LOL
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| 20:45 | <rjune> bdole42: I'm sorry man.
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| 20:45 | <cliebow> heh
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| 20:45 | <cliebow> bushboy:there is some wicked talent here on tap
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| 20:46 | <cliebow> thtere is a c api there...sbalneav could whip up something in a aminute..if he had the time
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| 20:47 | <bdole42> Having SMODULE_01=sb <parameters> nets me "parse error in /etc/lts.con, line=25"
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| 20:47 | <bushboy> HAHA
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| 20:47 | I'm moving back to winnipeg
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| 20:47 | so sbalneavs will be around
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| 20:47 | haha
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| 20:47 | I've met him a couple times
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| 20:48 | <bdole42> Followed by "- accepting connections on port 16001 \n /dev/dsp: no such file or directory"
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| 20:48 | <cliebow> bdole42:have to sort out why that parse error for starters
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| 20:49 | <bdole42> It appears about 10 times
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| 20:49 | Then "accepting/dev error/dev error, accepting/dev error/dev error" repeats a few more times
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| 20:49 | <cliebow> perhaps tomorrow post your lts.conf and someone will take a peek at it
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| 20:50 | <bdole42> I can do that
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| 20:50 | <cliebow> im ooh for the night see ya'
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| 20:50 | <bdole42> G'night
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| 20:51 | <bushboy> cya
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| 20:52 | <cliebow> 9~)
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| 21:04 | <bdole42> Well, I fixed the parse error: SMODULE_01= "sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1"
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| 21:26 | <rjune> jammcq @
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| 21:26 | !
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| 21:31 | <jammcq> hey rjune
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| 21:32 | <rjune> whats new?
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| 21:33 | <jammcq> ummm, not much
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| 21:33 | what's going on down there?
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| 21:57 | <rjune> need a fp 2002 disc
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| 22:14 | <shogunx> why, drink leaving a ring on your desk?
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| 23:47 | <Snerf> anyone can provide any help/assistance to using rdesktop with ltsp.. trying to get a local floppy to work, but there is no /mnt/floppy or even /dev/fd0 .. is that disabled by default in ltsp ?
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| 23:48 | * vagrantc thinks Gadi knows how | |
| 23:49 | <Snerf> most likely :)
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| 23:49 | spoke to Gadi yesterday.. but.. his idea didnt work
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| 23:49 | or her.. not sure :)
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