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02:20 | <dean_za> I have no idea what could have changed , I have had a running server for 3 weeks , ubuntu fiesty with ltsp 5 . I experimented with xterminator yesterday but had problems with vmware server crashing so I uninstalled it. I cannot login to my thin clients anymore. I have rebuilt my ltsp-client chroot and still nothing. I know my user profiles are ok as I can login via nxclient and get my desktop. I had previously been using the modified ldm , but now I am back to
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03:08 | <makghosh> cyberorg: hi....do you know where I can find good documentation about ltsp 5 in ubuntu/edubuntu
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03:09 | rather the debian based distros
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03:10 | <cyberorg> hi makghosh good afternoon :)
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03:10 | !ubuntu
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03:10 | <ltspbot> cyberorg: "ubuntu" is a Debian based GNU/Linux distrubution that includes a Ubuntu specific version of LTSP. It can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org. to install ltsp on ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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03:11 | <makghosh> cyberorg: seeing it
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03:27 | <makghosh> cyberorg: yeah...its exactly what i was seaching for :)
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03:27 | got the edubuntu handbook
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03:29 | !bazaar
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03:29 | <ltspbot> makghosh: Error: "bazaar" is not a valid command.
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03:33 | <makghosh> cyberorg: i also saw the vglug's ltsp initiative....its good....
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03:34 | cyberorg: and btw where are the ltsp 5 source packages for rpm-based distros...where to find them infact....bcoz i want to implement ltsp 5 in fedora
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03:36 | <cyberorg> makghosh, http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/cyberorg:/experimental/openSUSE_Factory/src/
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03:36 | and some here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/cyberorg/SUSE_Factory/src/
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03:37 | makghosh, you'd first need to get kiwi running on fedora to be able to use it as that is the deployment tool we use, http://kiwi.berlios.de/
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03:38 | sources for that are available too :)
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03:38 | <makghosh> cyberorg: yeah...i got them
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03:40 | <makghosh> cyberorg: brb.....got a phone call :(
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04:02 | <makghosh> cyberorg: so all the srpms are there in suse factory....this is gr8:)....but where are the ltsp source tarballs which the developers host...at launchpad.net?
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04:03 | <cyberorg> makghosh, bzr clone http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ltsp/gutsy-ltsp
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04:04 | <makghosh> cyberorg: i am also seeing kiwi...but can you explain a bit what exactly it does
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04:04 | ?
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04:04 | <cyberorg> makghosh, it creates chroot and netboot image
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04:05 | apart from other image types like liveCD/DVD/vmx/qemu/installable/usbboot etc
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04:07 | <makghosh> cyberorg: hmmm....then ltsp uses this image?
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04:08 | <cyberorg> makghosh, yes, we use kiwi to create images for ltsp use
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04:08 | <makghosh> cyberorg: i am seeing the ltsp 5's functionality/working is quite different from 4.2 one :)
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04:08 | <cyberorg> we can easily create a live image out of same chroot ltsp uses too :)
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04:08 | <makghosh> and its better
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04:09 | <cyberorg> of course, ltsp5 is supposed to be different breed than 4.2, in open source world version number change means major departure from earlier approach
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04:10 | <makghosh> yeah.....exactly
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04:15 | <makghosh> cyberorg: the launchpad url you gave returned with 404 error :(
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04:15 | <cyberorg> makghosh, you need to run that command in shell
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04:15 | <makghosh> ooooooooo
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04:15 | oops!!
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04:16 | <cyberorg> they should fix 404 and say run this command in shell to fetch this repo ;)
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04:17 | <makghosh> yeah...he he :)
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04:18 | <cyberorg> makghosh, download opensuse 10.3 and install kiwi-ltsp on that, that would give you better understanding of how you can do that in fedora
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04:20 | <makghosh> cyberorg: ok...i will get it on saturday :)
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04:20 | <cyberorg> beta3 should be out today
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04:21 | <ogra> cyberorg, vagrantc told me he had prepared a branch with two basic plugins for a fedora setup
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04:21 | <cyberorg> ogra, yeah, makghosh you might want to check that one out too :)
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04:22 | makghosh, join ltsp-devel list if you haven't already
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04:22 | <ogra> it should build a basic system so you have something you can base on
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04:22 | <ogra> bzr get http://llama.freegeek.org/~vagrant/bzr/ltsp/fedora/vagrant-fedora
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04:23 | <makghosh> cyberorg: ogra: yeah...i'm joinng ltsp-devel
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04:23 | ogra: kudos...checkin them out :)
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04:24 | <ogra> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20070831170400.GP10279%40ryukin.fglan&forum_name=ltsp-developer
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04:24 | there is the mail :)
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04:24 | <cyberorg> ogra, he has been checking our group archives, posted that ^^ on there too :)
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04:24 | http://groups.google.com/group/VGLUG/browse_thread/thread/eee5bf1997c349f3
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04:25 | <ogra> ah
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04:27 | <makghosh> cyberorg: ogra: anyways brb
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04:30 | <cyberorg> ogra, got nbdswap patch in kiwi http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/kiwi :)
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04:30 | <ogra> great !
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04:36 | makghosh, you will want to look at server/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Fedora in the tree if you checked out the code
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05:18 | <makghosh> ogra: i didn't get you in the last line :( i don't have ltsp 5 directory tree in my fedora....where to look for? which code?
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05:19 | <ogra> makghosh, make sure to have bzr installed and run: bzr get http://llama.freegeek.org/~vagrant/bzr/ltsp/fedora/vagrant-fedora
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05:19 | that will create a dir called vagrant-fedora in your current location
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05:19 | in that dir you have the ltsp sourcecode
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05:20 | and in the subdir server/plugins/ltsp-build-client/Fedora you have the fedora specific code vagrant wrote
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05:20 | <makghosh> ogra: oh!! i got it.....
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05:21 | <ogra> :)
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05:29 | <makghosh> yeah...i installed bzr while doing the "bzr clone ...gutsy-ltsp".....will give you updates tonight (dunno if its' day or night at your place) ;)
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05:29 | <ogra> gutsy-ltsp is the ubuntu source ...
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05:29 | you want the vagrant branch
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05:30 | i'll merge both soon, then the Fedora subdir will be in the gutsy branch as well
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05:30 | <makghosh> ogra: i will download both of them...
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05:30 | <ogra> but for now take the brach vagrant prepared
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05:31 | <makghosh> ogra: oh!! that's cool
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05:31 | :)
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05:31 | oks....
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05:32 | <ogra> i just looked at his oplugin, its easy to understand the code i think
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05:33 | <makghosh> ogra: hmmm.....i am getting it downloaded....my connection is really not that gr8
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05:34 | <ogra> itsw a huge tree (huge meaning many commits not big size here) bzr walks all of them while branching
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05:34 | that takes a while for an initial checkout
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05:35 | <makghosh> yeah......i am facing them all ;)
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05:36 | ogra: if it creates problem i can get it from my university where there is raw 20 Mbps connection for student use
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05:37 | <ogra> well, the ltsp source package is only 200k big in ubuntu :) its not a matter of size
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05:37 | <makghosh> oh.....thank god
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05:37 | :)
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05:38 | yah....i had a feeling that source files cannot be very big
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07:01 | <jammcq> ogra: ping
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07:38 | <ogra> jammcq, pongie
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07:39 | <jammcq> hey
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07:39 | we're trying really hard to get through to the right people at SiS about the license on the sis7019 audio driver
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07:40 | and there's a *very small* chance that we'll actually get through to the right person who says "Sure, we'll be glad to GPL the code". what I want to do then, is tell him exactly what he needs to do
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07:42 | and I'm not exactly sure what he needs to do
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07:43 | I know for sure they aren't willing to maintain the driver
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07:43 | I think they basically want to just throw it over the wall
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07:47 | <ogra> thats fine for a start :)
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07:48 | i mean its an interim solution anyway, we need to get rid of oss stuff ...
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07:48 | but until we have an alsa solution we could use it
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07:48 | <jammcq> sure, but they've already thrown it over the wall, but it's not offically GPL/Freesoftware
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07:49 | <ogra> right
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07:49 | its needs *any* license
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07:49 | <jammcq> I'm thinking they need to add a 'LICENSE.txt' file, or modify the top of the file
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07:49 | each file
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07:49 | <ogra> (i'd even be fine with a nonfree one ... i can still put it in multiverse )
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07:49 | <jammcq> or, a statement that it's in the public domain, or something
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07:49 | <ogra> LICENSE should suffice
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07:50 | <jammcq> a 'LICENSE.txt' file and no other mods would suffice ?
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07:50 | <ogra> it needs to mention that all files fall under this license, but that should be enough
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07:50 | <jammcq> sure
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07:50 | we'll work on that
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07:51 | assuming they agree, then are you, or someone around you willing/able to make sure it compiles for the latest kernel?
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07:51 | ie, "maintain" it
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07:51 | <ogra> sure
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07:51 | <jammcq> great
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07:51 | if they'll go so far as making it GPL, then we should be able to push it into the upstream kernel, eh?
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07:51 | well, assuming they are accepting oss drivers still
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07:52 | <ogra> i was planning to set up a PPA for experimental packages on LP anyway
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07:52 | <jammcq> cool
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07:52 | PPA == Personal Package Archive?
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07:52 | <ogra> like scottie does with edubuntu-docs now
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07:52 | yeah
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07:52 | <jammcq> ah
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07:52 | <ogra> LP has that feature now
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07:52 | <jammcq> cool
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07:52 | yeah, i read something about it
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07:52 | scotty is becoming quite the packager, eh?
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07:52 | <ogra> yeah
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07:52 | :D
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07:54 | have you seen vagrant has prepared a fedora plugin dir and a basic yum plugin
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07:54 | good base for them to start
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08:15 | <Gadi> ogra: last night, I spoke to sbalneav about grabbing the session info in ldminfod from the .desktop files. I slapped together some code for sbalneav to work into ldm (http://pastebot.ltsp.org/306)
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08:16 | this would give friendly names and better accuracy than update-alternatives
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08:16 | any objections?
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08:16 | <ogra> yes
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08:16 | even though, no actually, but debian will complain loudly
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08:16 | so yes in the end ...
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08:17 | <Gadi> how come?
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08:17 | <ogra> you are missing a lot
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08:17 | <Gadi> a lot of what?
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08:17 | <ogra> the .desktop files are only some of the available sessions
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08:17 | the only reliable way is to get it from update-alternatives
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08:18 | <Gadi> but, then you get extra sessions
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08:18 | <ogra> you could indeed then check if a .desktop exists for the session and read its name from there
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08:18 | no, then you get all sessions
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08:18 | <Gadi> like beryl, metacity
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08:18 | <ogra> the x-session-amager alternative has all avaliable sessions
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08:18 | *manager
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08:18 | <Gadi> bec currently we look at x-window-manager
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08:18 | <ogra> thats from x-window-manager
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08:18 | <Gadi> right
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08:19 | <ogra> we look at both atm
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08:19 | <Gadi> which is bad
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08:19 | but, scotty didnt want to drop x-w-m
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08:19 | <ogra> debian insisted that x-window-manager is mandatory for them
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08:19 | i will drop it from ubuntu
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08:20 | <Gadi> ok
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08:20 | <ogra> using basename for the return of the update-alternatives request in ldminfod and capitalizing the first letter would be my choice for the prob
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08:20 | if ewe dont want a transaltion file
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08:20 | *translation
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08:21 | <Gadi> and s/-session//
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08:21 | <ogra> right
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08:21 | a bit of sed'ing but you wont miss sessions
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08:21 | <Gadi> sounds good
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08:21 | bbiab
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08:22 | <ogra> ldminfod needs some additions anyway ... like returning the default session for a distro (/etc/X11/Xsession in debian vs /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession in redhat and suse)
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08:23 | even though that could be hardcoded in ldm itself ... to fall back to the second if the first isnt existing
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08:50 | <bolivartech> I have a question that probably has nothing to do with ltsp, but I'm not sure where to turn on such short notice
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08:51 | I have an ltsp lab up and running and was authenticating to a win2003 server tuesday, wednesday I had to go to a grant conferance and now today I'm back and it no longer works
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08:51 | it simply says authentication failed
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10:21 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: Hi, paw... how are you?
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10:22 | <sbalneav> I'm doing fine Guaraldo! Yourself?
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10:23 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: I'm trying to downgrade Ubuntu edgy Xorg to 6.9 becouse an LTSP keyboard problem...
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10:23 | sbalneav: Is there an easy way to do it?
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10:24 | sbalneav: Or even a hard way?
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10:24 | <sbalneav> Well, what's the keyboard problem?
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10:25 | <Guaraldo> When changing keyboard map on LTSP4.2, the X server of the client just falls and all the thin client cames blocked...
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10:27 | <sbalneav> So, you're using ltsp 4.2 under edgy? Or you're using ltsp5?
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10:27 | <Guaraldo> I'm thinking that it have something to do with the grate diferance of the Xorg 6.9 (LTSP4.2) and Xorg 7.2 (Edgy)
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10:27 | <Guaraldo> LTSP 4.2
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10:28 | So, I thought that if I can downgrade Xorg of edgy to 6.9 it may be corrected... When we was using LTSP 4.1 it didn't happen...
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10:29 | <sbalneav> No, there'd be no easy way to get 6.9 on edgy. What's the reason for not using ltsp5 again?
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10:30 | <Guaraldo> More than 1000 clients booting toghether...
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10:30 | Maybe we will change it next brasilian summer...
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10:31 | <sbalneav> Well, the fixed ldm would help you there
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10:31 | !ldm
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10:31 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "ldm" is You can find the updated ldm that supports the LDM_DIRECTX parameter for bypassing ssh encryption at http://alburg.net/ldm
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10:32 | <sbalneav> however, can you not get any keyboard to work? i.e., does the en-us keyboard work?
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10:33 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: Well I know... I'm trying this on a VMWare... But the change can take some time... It's not my decision...
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10:33 | <sbalneav> I guess what I'm trying to determine is if it's a problem with the compiled keryboard files under 4.2
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10:33 | maybe we're just missing something in 4.2
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10:33 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: That's the problem... It's using abnt2 by default...
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10:33 | But many keyboards are us_en...
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10:34 | <sbalneav> So, it works for en_us, but not abnt2?
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10:35 | <Guaraldo> No... We dont know witch client has those keyboards, so we did a script to change mapping of keybord...
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10:35 | When running this script the X of thinclient drops...
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10:36 | <klausade> Guaraldo: "more than 1000 clients booting toghether" is no "excuse" for not using ltsp5 :-)
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10:36 | <sbalneav> do all of them drop, or just some?
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10:36 | <Guaraldo> klausade: Yep, on a cluster of 7 servers
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10:36 | sbalneav: the one witch you run the script
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10:37 | <sbalneav> Can I see the script?
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10:37 | <Guaraldo> any of tham... just need to run the script and it drops... On LTSP 4.1 it didn't used to happen...
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10:38 | sbalneav: Sure... One moment...
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10:38 | !pastebot
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10:38 | <ltspbot> Guaraldo: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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10:39 | <ltsppbot> "Guaraldo" pasted "Keyboard mapping script" (5 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/309
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10:40 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: it's really too simple...
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10:41 | <sbalneav> ok, when the X hangs, can you still do a control-alt-F2 or something to a shell screen?
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10:41 | or does the whole machine hang?
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10:41 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: The hole machine hangs...
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10:42 | sbalneav: that's a MEGA problem to users... thay have to press the power botton for 4 seconds to turn off and turn on the machine again...
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10:42 | <sbalneav> Can't do a control-alt-backspace?
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10:43 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: No... that hangs and no keyboard activity is taken...
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10:43 | Nothing more works...
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10:43 | <sbalneav> Do you have a client there handy that we can run some tests?
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10:45 | <Guaraldo> Well that's on a client of us... I have a lab on VMWare exactly identical, but here it doesn't hangs, but X falls...
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10:45 | <sbalneav> ok, so X fails out? What error do you get?
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10:46 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: maybe the all machine hungs becouse of the OSChooser is expacting the TERM signal of X
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10:46 | sbalneav: Yep... X fails out...
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10:47 | <sbalneav> ok, so what error message do we get? Maybe something's in /var/log/Xorg... on the client?
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10:47 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: if X doesn't fail out it will be corrected...
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10:47 | I'll see...
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10:52 | * ogra really doubts a wrong keymap setting can hardlock a machine ... there must be something else additionally | |
10:53 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: the console fails too...
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10:53 | <ogra> Guaraldo, if you dont use the script all clients boot fine (but with wrong keymap) ?
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10:53 | <Guaraldo> ogra: yep...
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10:54 | <ogra> what about using ubuntus setxkbmap in a login script then ? instead of using the one of the client ?
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10:54 | <Guaraldo> ogra: There is no problem on booting the clients...
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10:54 | <ogra> i.e. execute setxkbmap on the server
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10:55 | (in an autoligin script that gets exectuted by gdm)
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10:55 | <Guaraldo> rebooting client...
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10:57 | <Guaraldo> ogra: http://pastebot.ltsp.org/309
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10:57 | this is the script...
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10:57 | <ogra> yes, saw that in your first paste
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10:58 | <Guaraldo> ogra: using only setxkbmap
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10:58 | <ogra> so if you log in on y client woith broken keymap and execute it in the running X session, is your keymap right then ?
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10:59 | <Guaraldo> without all other options?
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11:01 | ogra: I'm not understanding... sory. The command "setxkbmap -layout 'us(intl)' -print | xkbcomp - $DISPLAY" given on client?
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11:01 | <ogra> right
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11:01 | well, you shouldnt need the last bits ...
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11:02 | <sbalneav> I think you should just be able to do...
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11:02 | setxkbmap -layout 'us(intl)'
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11:02 | shouldn't you?
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11:02 | <ogra> setxkbmap us_intl rather :)
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11:03 | thats what the gnome tool does if you have set it up properly
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11:03 | <Guaraldo> cannot open display
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11:03 | <ogra> Guaraldo, try setxkbmap us_intl
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11:04 | <Guaraldo> ogra: cannot open display
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11:04 | <ogra> but you are logged in to a deskotop like i asked for ?
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11:04 | *desktop
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11:04 | <Guaraldo> ogra: thats what it gives...
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11:04 | <ogra> in a gnome terminal ??
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11:04 | that cant be...
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11:04 | <Guaraldo> yep...
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11:04 | <ogra> if you are looking at an X desktop there must be DISPLAY
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11:05 | <Guaraldo> ogra: command given on the server (gnome-terminal)
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11:05 | <ogra> echo $DISPLAY ?
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11:06 | <Guaraldo> gives me the answer: Error loading nwe keyboard description
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11:06 | <ogra> ??
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11:06 | echo $DISPLAY gives you *that* answer ?
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11:06 | <Guaraldo> no...
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11:06 | <ogra> there is something really broken in your setup
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11:07 | aaahh
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11:07 | :)
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11:07 | * ogra was doubting his sanity already :) | |
11:07 | <Guaraldo> hehehehe... sory!
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11:07 | when the comand setxkbmap is given on a gnome-terminal session gives that error...
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11:08 | <ogra> in which way did you call it (paste here)
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11:09 | <Guaraldo> ogra: I loged in the client X session, opened gnome-terminal and called setxkbmap us_intl
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11:09 | <ogra> hmm
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11:09 | that should just work
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11:09 | it surely does here
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11:09 | <Gadi> how bout setxkbmap us
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11:10 | <ogra> yeah
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11:11 | <Guaraldo> # setxkbmap -layout 'us(intl)'
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11:11 | Error loading new keyboard description
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11:11 | # setxkbmap us_intl
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11:11 | Error loading new keyboard description
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11:12 | <sbalneav> ok, so something's wrong with keymaps on the client.
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11:12 | <Guaraldo> # setxkbmap us
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11:12 | Error loading new keyboard description
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11:12 | <Gadi> dpkg -l xkb-data
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11:12 | <sbalneav> This is 4.2
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11:12 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: Yep... 4.2
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11:13 | <Gadi> right, which is why the way you do it in your script is better
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11:13 | ie, compiling the kb on the server
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11:13 | <sbalneav> but when he does that, the client hangs.
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11:14 | <Gadi> right - so we need to check that he has xkb-data installed
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11:14 | <ogra> right
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11:14 | on the server
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11:14 | <Gadi> so he can compile kb mapping
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11:14 | <sbalneav> ah, on the server.
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11:14 | gotcha
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11:14 | * sbalneav slaps head. | |
11:14 | <ogra> all commands he ran affected the server
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11:14 | (gnome-terminal)
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11:14 | <Guaraldo> Gadi: many keyboard of clients (that changes continuously) ar US INT... some user uses that for programming others not, and they want to be confortible on any keyboard...
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11:14 | <ogra> i'd like to know if the gnome keyboard layout tool has the same probs
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11:15 | <sbalneav> Guaraldo: ok, so do like gadi says, and type dpkg -l xkb-data
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11:15 | <Guaraldo> ii xkb-data 0.8-7ubuntu2 XKB data
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11:16 | <sbalneav> workping, be back in a bit...
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11:18 | <Guaraldo> any idea?
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11:18 | <Gadi> hmm...
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11:18 | try running: setxkbmap us -print
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11:20 | <ltsppbot> "Guaraldo" pasted "setxkbmap us -print" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/310
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11:20 | <Gadi> thats perfect
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11:21 | <ogra> yeah
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11:21 | <Gadi> so, try running: setxkbmap us -print|xkbcomp - $DISPLAY
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11:22 | <ltsppbot> "Guaraldo" pasted "setxkbmap us -print|xkbcomp - $DISPLAY" (135 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/311
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11:23 | <Gadi> well, that looks good
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11:23 | <ogra> yep
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11:23 | <Guaraldo> Gadi: than X on client fails out...
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11:23 | <Gadi> this is a vmware client?
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11:24 | <ogra> it crashed right now ?
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11:24 | <Guaraldo> Gadi: no... the server is on a VMWare, but client is a thinclient tk-3750
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11:25 | <ogra> lol
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11:25 | * ogra just discussed with sbalneav about virtual ltsp servers | |
11:25 | <Guaraldo> ogra: Yep... it crached...
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11:25 | <ogra> Guaraldo, whats the reason for using the vmware overhead on the server ?
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11:25 | <exodos> yo yo yo/quit
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11:26 | <ogra> just out of intrest
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11:26 | <Guaraldo> ogra: To make changes and if it craches the system there are no problems...
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11:26 | <ogra> ah, you dont run that in production ?
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11:27 | <Gadi> how much memory in the client?
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11:27 | <Guaraldo> ogra: No those tests I'm doing on lab... The problem I have on production server too...
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11:28 | Gadi: 128
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11:28 | Gadi: no swap
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11:28 | Gadi: 59 M are free
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11:28 | <Gadi> hmm... weird...
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11:29 | <ogra> Guaraldo, can you switch the keymap in the gnome tool ?
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11:29 | <Guaraldo> Gadi: REALLY weird...
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11:29 | <Gadi> bbiab
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11:29 | <Guaraldo> ogra: I'll try...
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11:29 | * ogra cant remember if in edgy the gnome internal kemapping was used already | |
11:30 | <ogra> in newer versions gnome uses its own keymapping, in older it used setxkbmap
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11:30 | with the new variant it could work (its not depending on X afaik)
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11:30 | <Guaraldo> ogra: the same problem...
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11:30 | <ogra> right, then this was introduced in feisty only
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11:31 | <Guaraldo> but I cant logon anymore...
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11:31 | ogra: broken gnome config
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11:31 | <ogra> woah
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11:33 | the layout is stored in the /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd/layouts key
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11:33 | you can unset it with gconftool-2 via commandline
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11:34 | (or be radical and remove ~/.gnome and ~/.gconf but that resets *all* settings)
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11:35 | <Guaraldo> ogra: done...
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11:36 | ogra: up again...
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11:38 | <Guaraldo> ogra: I've captured some error messages on $HOME/.xsession-errors do you want to see?
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11:38 | <ogra> yeah
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11:38 | <ltsppbot> "Guaraldo" pasted "$HOME/.xserver-errors" (27 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/312
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11:39 | <sbalneav> back
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11:39 | <ogra> well, not much in there
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11:40 | Xorg.6.log of the client would be intresting i think
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11:40 | <Guaraldo> ogra: Yep... I thoght so... but maybe experts as you could take something on that... :-/
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11:41 | <ogra> in .xsession-errors you only see that the Xserver died and all apps crash
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11:41 | <Guaraldo> trying again...
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11:42 | <ogra> Xorg.6.log might show the actual error
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11:45 | <Guaraldo> ogra: there is no Xorg.6.log
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11:45 | <ogra> hcp224.local.propus.com.br:6.0 is yyour DISPLAY
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11:45 | the file is in /var/log on hcp224.local.propus.com.br
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11:46 | (whatever machine that is)
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11:46 | <Guaraldo> ogra: /var/log is empty
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11:46 | <ogra> sbalneav, did 4.2 not write logs at all locally?
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11:47 | Guaraldo, do you have anything in /var/log on the server that could relate ?
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11:47 | <sbalneav> Should have
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11:47 | ah
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11:47 | check in /tmp maybe
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11:47 | <ogra> heh
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11:52 | <sbalneav> Guaraldo: Anything in /tmp on the client?
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11:53 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: tmp has many things, but nothing relevant...
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11:53 | now loggin on server's syslog...
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11:53 | we will have something to work on...
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11:54 | <sbalneav> xorg won't log there, that's the problem.
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11:54 | but, it might help a bit.
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11:55 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: No, sory... when X fails nothing is logged...
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11:56 | <sbalneav> But on the thin client, in /tmp. is there anything?
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11:56 | <Guaraldo> yep...
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11:57 | XF86Config.7
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11:57 | <sbalneav> Xorg log?
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11:57 | <Guaraldo> no, sbalneav, no log file...
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11:57 | <sbalneav> or a logs direcotry?
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11:57 | <Guaraldo> ops... on /tmp/mnt
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11:58 | <Gad2> .7?
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12:04 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: Caught signal 11. Server aborting
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12:05 | <LTSP> What's the easiest way to turn off client sound? Client sound is currently running through the server (which is being used as a workstation running local sound) - and the separate sound feeds are overlapping. Kubuntu 6.10 with LTSP on the server.
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12:39 | <Guaraldo> Gad2: Any other idea?
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12:39 | <Gadi> :)
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12:40 | Guaraldo: can you check if there is an xkbcomp in the chroot? ie in /opt/ltsp/i386
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12:41 | <Guaraldo> sure...
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12:42 | <Guaraldo> ./etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp
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12:42 | ./usr/X11R6/bin/xkbcomp
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12:44 | <Guaraldo> ./usr/X11R6/bin/setxkbmap
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12:44 | <Gadi> hmm
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12:45 | <Gadi> I suppose a workaround would be to make your script run: ssh root@$CLIENT yourScript
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12:45 | <Guaraldo> /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xkb/compiled -> ../../../../var/lib/xkb
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12:46 | <Gadi> hmm
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12:46 | <Guaraldo> Gadi: woldant it be wrong?
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12:46 | <Gadi> ls -ld /opt/ltsp/i386/var
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12:46 | <Guaraldo> drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-07-27 11:08 /opt/ltsp/i386/var
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12:46 | <Gadi> hmm...
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12:47 | I forget which dirs in 4.2 were supposed to be symlinks
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12:47 | <Guaraldo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2007-07-31 14:08 /opt/ltsp/i386/var/var -> /tmp/var
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12:48 | <Gadi> ah - I think your LTSP 4.2 install was bad maybe
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12:48 | try doing this:
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12:48 | sudo mv /opt/ltsp/i386/var /opt/ltsp/i386/var.orig
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12:49 | sudo ln -s /tmp/var /opt/ltsp/i386/var
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12:49 | and then reboot the client
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12:52 | <Guaraldo> Gadi: Still the same problem...
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12:52 | <Gadi> but, it booted ok?
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12:53 | <Guaraldo> Yep...
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12:53 | <Gadi> reboot again, and then switch to the shell and see if you xrog log is in /var/log now
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12:53 | *xorg
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12:55 | <Guaraldo> /var/log clean...
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12:57 | <Guaraldo> its on tmp/mnt
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12:57 | <Gadi> weird
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12:57 | looks like the original way was the correct way
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12:57 | sorry bout that
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12:57 | sudo rmdir /opt/ltsp/i386/var
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12:57 | sudo mv /opt/ltsp/i386/var.orig /opt/ltsp/i386/var
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12:58 | hmm..
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12:58 | the only other thing I can think of is this:
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12:59 | sudo cp <yourScript> /opt/ltsp/i386/bin
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12:59 | and then, on the thin client, switch to the shell and run: DISPLAY=:0 yourScript
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12:59 | and see what happens
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13:00 | if that works, you may be able to work around it by doing ssh key exchance with the client, and launching yourscript remotely on the client
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13:01 | <ltsppbot> "Guaraldo" pasted "xorg.log" (26 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/313
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13:09 | <sbalneav> Guaraldo: does it work if you run it locally on the client?
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13:15 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: I was testing...
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13:16 | sbalneav: There was some fails on commands not be founding...
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13:16 | sbalneav: afeter correcting that (there wasn't any setxkbmap or xkbcomp on PATH of the client...
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13:17 | sbalneav: After correcting that it worked properly, but only localy...
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13:19 | <Gadi> sounds to me like you were right originally, Guaraldo: Xorg7.2 compiled kb maps have symbols that the 6.9 xserver croaks on
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13:20 | which means you might have to play with specifying symbols more carefully in setxkbmap when run from the server
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13:20 | <Guaraldo> Gadi: There is any solution?
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13:20 | <Gadi> or, remotely launch your script on the client from the server
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13:20 | Guaraldo: yes, those 2
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13:20 | as far as I can see
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13:27 | <Guaraldo> Gadi: Thanks... The only thing that makes me wory is that if I let ssh opened on clients will start the kiddings of one person kill X of other one...
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13:28 | <Guaraldo> We are tolking about little dirty newbies hackers
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13:29 | <sbalneav> Since he's just printing the output (a text file) and then piping to xkbcomp, he should be able to adjust the keyboard map appropriately, I'd guess
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13:30 | <sbalneav> Guaraldo: So, on my box, setxkbmap -print prints:
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13:30 | xkb_keymap {
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13:30 | xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" };
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13:30 | xkb_types { include "complete" };
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13:30 | xkb_compat { include "complete" };
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13:30 | xkb_symbols { include "pc(pc105)+us(intl)+level3(ralt_switch)+ctrl(nocaps)+eurosign(e)" };
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13:30 | xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
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13:30 | };
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13:31 | <sbalneav> so, save that to a file, and start editing it. For instance, maybe start with:
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13:31 | xkb_keymap {
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13:31 | xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
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13:31 | };
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13:31 | and then pipe that to xkbcomp
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13:31 | lets try to identify the line that actually kills the x server.
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13:32 | <Guaraldo> Greate idea, sbalneav... I'll be trying this for this while...
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13:33 | <Gadi> you can also pass flags to set the symbols and such
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13:33 | pass flags to setxkbmap
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13:33 | that is
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13:52 | <sbalneav> Guaraldo: Any further?
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13:52 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: no... many errors and some X boken...
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13:54 | <sbalneav> Do you use sound an localdevices? Or just sound?
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14:00 | <vagrantc_> ogra: so, i tested with just NBD+squashfs and it still hung ... haven't tested with something like ext2 yet ...
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14:01 | still haven't tried with the newer nbd-server from unstable
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14:22 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: Did you ever seen the film named "Back to the future..."? Do you remember the frase od DOC?
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14:23 | I just have to say: Great Scott!!!
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14:24 | sbalneav: some time hacking your solution and BINGO! That's working!!!
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14:24 | !pastebot
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14:24 | <ltspbot> Guaraldo: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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14:24 | <jammcq> Guaraldo: 1.21 Gigwawatts!!!!!
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14:25 | s/Gigwa/Giga/
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14:25 | <Guaraldo> jammcq: Near of that!!!
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14:28 | <vlt> Hello. I just managed to connect a printer to a client. But I did it a very strange way: I installed CUPS into /opt/ltsp/i386. But there are problems adding a printer in the web interface (maybe there is some write access missing) but it works now after adding the printer to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/cups/printers.conf. Is there an easier way to do this? (Using Ubuntu Dapper's LTSP package.)
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14:56 | <sbalneav> Guaraldo: Got it going?
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14:59 | <jammcq> http://linuxmagazin.de/heft_abo/ausgaben/2007/10/einer_fuer_alle?category=0
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15:00 | looking at that article, there sure are some long german words :)
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15:08 | <Guaraldo> sbalneav: some times... Just hacking some more...
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15:08 | <sbalneav> Excellent.
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15:09 | Das Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP, [1]) kombiniert X-Window, SSH und NFS mit der Einbindung lokaler Drucker, Laufwerke und Soundkarten in einem übers Netzwerk gebooteten Betriebssystem.
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15:09 | <jammcq> couldn't have said it better myself
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15:10 | <sbalneav> Can we set that to be our topic? I like the word gebooteten
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15:11 | SSH und NFS mit der wienerschnitzel und Biere
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15:11 | ja ja! Ist gut!
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15:11 | <jammcq> heheh
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15:11 | knucklehead
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15:12 | <sbalneav> Dumpkoff, you mean :)
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15:51 | <cliebow> someoine call me/??
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15:52 | <sbalneav> No, unless your here for the wienerschnitzel and ber.
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15:52 | beer.
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15:53 | If so, pull up a chair and tuck in.
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16:57 | <didge> hi. i have a really nice diskless network going using ltsp.
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16:57 | i sincerely thank everyone involved in the project.
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17:24 | <didge> is there a live cd that will allow me to create a wireless diskless network ?
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18:03 | <lns> can anyone tell me why 30 new students would have trouble logging in for the first time via ldm (ubuntu feisty)? basically no error, just kicking back to ldm login? IP hasn't changed.
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18:04 | I have a bunch of information about what happened, a lot to do with the user/group manager slowing waaaaaayyyy down after adding a few users. The students were able to log in after a while
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18:04 | the teacher on-site seems to think that it takes a while for the users to actually be added to the system
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18:09 | and i've seen this with another system i have completely unrelated... it seems like the user/group manager in gnome is terribly underqualified
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18:12 | the teacher also said: I have one girl, last name Onate, first name Alexia, user # k11101547 pw
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18:12 | olivia
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18:12 | We were trying to log in with the wrong pw. I deleted her as a user, and
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18:12 | then added her back. Couldn't log her in. I closed the User Manager and
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18:12 | opened it again. Her name was no longer there. Added her again. Logged me
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18:12 | off and back on. I still can't log on as her.
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19:47 | <LTSP> lns: I've had trouble with user passwords too.. the "fix" is to log the user in/out on the server itself the first time (after you setup their account - just log in/out as them right there and hand them their temporary password) then they are able to log in on any client thereafter. If it's more involved of a problem then you'll need the help of a few other folks here. Good luck!
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19:48 | <lns> LTSP, thanks =) do you have any idea that this might be related to "users-admin" off of "gnome-system-tools" package or no?
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19:56 | <ari_stress> morning
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20:54 | <LTSP> Ins: Sorry, away from the terminal... That's where I set up the user accounts (I'm running Kubuntu, but it's similar) - in the system settings "users & groups" section. setup the new user from the admin account on the server, log out, log in the new user on the server, log out of the new user, then try logging in the new user on one of the client machines. That usually fixes it for me. I'm signing off for tonight... bye.
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20:56 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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21:58 | <sbalneav> hey vagrantc_
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22:08 | <sbalneav> vagrantc_: You actually there, or just a pretend you?
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22:08 | :)
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22:08 | <slidesinger> Hey Scott.
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22:09 | <sbalneav> Hello slidesinger! Long time no see!
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22:09 | <slidesinger> Very long. Never any time. Two kids to keep me running when I'm not working.
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22:10 | The older they get the less time I have.
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22:10 | <sbalneav> Tell me about it :)
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22:12 | <slidesinger> Right now I'm trying to find the hidden menace in a bsd server that's attacking Internet Exploder.
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22:13 | <sbalneav> :)
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22:14 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: well, i was eating dinnr
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22:14 | <slidesinger> vagrantc_: and you ate the "e"
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22:15 | <vagrantc_> tasty, thos
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22:15 | <RevF^2> slidesinger: this is Faber.
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22:15 | <vagrantc_> nxt thing you know i'll at somthing ls
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22:16 | <RevF^2> slidesinger: I'm logged into the FreeBSD server
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22:16 | <slidesinger> Right. What did you find so far?
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22:16 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: you actually thr, or just a prtnd you?
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22:16 | <RevF^2> slide: nada. Remind me: how do you do a private chat in IRC?
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22:17 | <slidesinger> /msg [name] [text]
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22:18 | <RevF^2> slide: are youseeing my msgs?
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22:18 | <slidesinger> No
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22:19 | <RevF^2> slide: Hmmm...let's try this again...
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22:19 | <slidesinger> /join #intrepid
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22:19 | <vagrantc_> i think freenode requires registered nicks for private messages
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22:19 | <sbalneav> sbalneav: You me?
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22:19 | <slidesinger> Could be, I'm registered like, forever.
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22:19 | <sbalneav> sbalneav: yep
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22:20 | vagrantc_: Seems to be me. :)
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22:20 | <RevF^2> slide: done
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22:20 | <sbalneav> So, I had a minor thought.
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22:20 | Since the whole lts.conf getting sucked down from tftp works such a treat...
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22:20 | <slidesinger> RevF^2: You found the hicough?
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22:21 | RevF^2: registered the nick?
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22:21 | <sbalneav> And since X_CONF files, and ssh keys are just files as well...
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22:21 | <RevF^2> slide: No. I can't even see it.
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22:21 | How doI register a nick? (I haven't done IRC in *years*!)
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22:21 | <sbalneav> I was wondering if we should talk about a nice way to package those up as well, to be tftp'd down, say in a tarball, or something.
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22:21 | <RevF^2> slide: I'm in #intrepid but I don't see you.
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22:22 | <slidesinger> Weird, let me pop out and back in.
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22:22 | <sbalneav> RevF^2: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER for more information
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22:22 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: well, that only works well when unionfs is working
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22:23 | unless we also handle bind mounting from initramfs ....
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22:23 | <sbalneav> Can we use the unionfs for both nfs and nbd?
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22:23 | it seems to work so well for the nbd, why don't we just use it for the nfs too?
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22:23 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: at the moment, i'm not convinced unionfs on debian is an option at all.
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22:23 | <sbalneav> Ohh, broken there?
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22:24 | Well, we just need to fix it :)
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22:24 | We do that sort of thing :)
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22:24 | <vagrantc_> still haven't tracked down exactly where it was. there were some problems with nfs+unionfs in the past, though i have seen it work (debian-live used it at one point, at least)
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22:25 | at any rate, i'm hoping y'all are done make crazy changes in gutsy, so i can get a relatively synced package into debian
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22:25 | <sbalneav> Yeah, nothing but minor bugfixes now.
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22:25 | I think ogra's installer bug was the last major bump.
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22:25 | <vagrantc_> all ogra's recent udeb changes assume that you're using the nbd stuff
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22:26 | <sbalneav> Ah, as the default.
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22:26 | <vagrantc_> as the only option
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22:26 | <sbalneav> what, so now we can't switch to nfs now?
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22:27 | <vagrantc_> no, but it will generate the nbd image weather you use it or not.
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22:27 | <sbalneav> Oh, well, I'm sure we can fix that somehow :)
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22:27 | <vagrantc_> and there's a bug in ltsp-update-kernels that causes it to break if you're not generating an nbd image ... gotta track that down and fix it
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22:27 | <sbalneav> Well, I probably touched it last.
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22:28 | FIF is all day tomorrow, I'll have a look at it.
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22:28 | <vagrantc_> if i spent a few minutes on it, i could make a patch
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22:29 | <sbalneav> Meh, let's just squash it now.
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22:29 | * sbalneav vi ltsp-update-kernel | |
22:30 | <vagrantc_> oops. ltsp-update-image
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22:31 | <sbalneav> ah
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22:31 | I was gonna say :)
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22:31 | There's nothing in there that seems to deal with the image. Ok, checking....
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22:33 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: so, it's the "if the image is already in inetd.conf, and not commented out
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22:33 | <sbalneav> So, if you're not going to generate an nbd image, wouldn't you just NOT CALL ltsp-update-image?
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22:33 | <vagrantc_> bit
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22:33 | sbalneav: sure.
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22:33 | sbalneav: but it's hard-coded all over the place to call it
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22:33 | <sbalneav> ah :)
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22:34 | <vagrantc_> and say you have one chroot that uses it, and one that doesn't ... you should be able to call ltsp-update-image without any bad things happening
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22:34 | <sbalneav> So, where's that, in ltsp-build-client?
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22:34 | <vagrantc_> i think ltsp-update-image should be safe to call even if you're not using it
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22:35 | <sbalneav> hmm, so how do we detect if we're an imaged chroot?
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22:35 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: line 82 seems to have a ... not ideal, but passable way to do so
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22:35 | <sbalneav> grep nbd "${CHROOT}/${CONFFILE}"
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22:36 | ok.
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22:36 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: it's line 97 that hangs, because IMAGE isn't set
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22:37 | <sbalneav> So really what we want there is to set a variable in an else, "NOT_NBD", and then just check it at the bottom of the loop
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22:37 | if it's set, then just exit.
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22:37 | That seem acceptible?
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22:37 | <vagrantc_> yeah, something like that
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22:37 | <sbalneav> 2 shakes.
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22:37 | <vagrantc_> though looking at the code now, it doesn't support multiple chroots at all
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22:40 | <sbalneav> No, it doesn't loop
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22:41 | <sbalneav> you'd have to call it multiple times, but your observation's still valid: it shouldnt break if it's run on a chroot that's not nbd
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22:41 | pushed
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22:41 | <vagrantc_> hm.
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22:42 | <sbalneav> it's update-image, not update-images :)
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22:42 | <vagrantc_> since it was only single-chroot capable, we should've just existed
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22:42 | as an else to the check for nbd-root
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22:42 | <sbalneav> yeah
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22:42 | ok, no need to set a variable.
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22:42 | 2 second.
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22:42 | <vagrantc_> and ...
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22:43 | move the ... grep ${image} /etc/inetd.conf | grep -v '^#' .... stuff into the same code block
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22:43 | <sbalneav> meh, then it's indented further.
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22:43 | <vagrantc_> i also don't understand the "Info"
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22:44 | it was error ... and someone changed it to "info", but it still does an "exit 1" after that ...
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22:44 | <sbalneav> Or don't you like the short circuit out of the program?
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22:44 | Think that was ollie.
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22:44 | should be an exit 0 since it's not really an error.
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22:44 | <vagrantc_> right
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22:45 | y'all know about "grep -q" ?
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22:45 | <sbalneav> yeah, but it's not "posix" I've been told.
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22:45 | <vagrantc_> really?
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22:45 | <sbalneav> i.e., it wouldn't be on sun
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22:45 | it's a Gnu grepism
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22:46 | <vagrantc_> STSP
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22:46 | <sbalneav> I couln't figure out why most pople don't use -q either, and asked. Someone told me > /dev/null 2>&1 's still the most portable.
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22:46 | <vagrantc_> got it.
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22:46 | <sbalneav> stsp?
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22:47 | <vagrantc_> solaris terminal server project
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22:47 | <sbalneav> lol
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22:47 | <vagrantc_> :P
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22:47 | <sbalneav> duh, I'm not too swift.
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22:47 | I thought it was "Stop Talking, Scott you Prat" :)
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22:47 | <vagrantc_> i'm wondering how much we should try and be strictly posix with that sort of stuff ...
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22:48 | i'm all for smiting bashisms ...
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22:48 | <sbalneav> Well, I wonder myself. We do a lot of >/dev... and it's just so damned ugly, to steal a line from planet of the apes.
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22:48 | <vagrantc_> we'd still want to do ... 2>/dev/null ... i think
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22:49 | <sbalneav> I thought -q suppressed both?
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22:49 | <vagrantc_> nope
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22:49 | just stdout
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22:49 | but we could ditch the 2&1> bits
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22:49 | or 2>&1
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22:50 | <sbalneav> slightly less ugly
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22:50 | <vagrantc_> something to think about in our codingstyle stuff
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22:50 | <sbalneav> I wish there was a posix single character sub for dev null.
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22:50 | <vagrantc_> though, i get the impression everybody working on this has a very, very different codingstyle :)
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22:50 | <sbalneav> For instance, to zero out a file, you can do :> foo
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22:51 | it'd be nice if you could do foo >: 2>:
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22:51 | * vagrantc_ ponders sbalneav's meaning of nice | |
22:51 | <sbalneav> Well, shorter, then :)
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22:51 | You know, nice and short :)
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22:52 | <vagrantc_> it looks like all kinds of evil, scheming people
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22:52 | i'm a sucker for the less compact but (hopefully) more clear approach, in general
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22:53 | <sbalneav> That we are. Bent on wold domination, didn't you get the memo? :)
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22:53 | <vagrantc_> i put all kinds of fnord into that memo
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22:54 | <sbalneav> Novus ordo seclorum, and all that.
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22:54 | * sbalneav shakes vagrantc's hand in an odd manner. | |
22:54 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: so you pushed your latest ltsp-update-image stuff yet ?
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22:54 | <sbalneav> *wink wink*
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22:54 | yeppers!
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22:55 | <vagrantc_> ok ..
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22:55 | * vagrantc_ looks at it | |
22:55 | <sbalneav> Bugs squashed while u wait.
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22:55 | * vagrantc_ does a behind the back handshake with sbalneav | |
22:55 | <sbalneav> Pass, Brother Vagrant
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22:55 | <vagrantc_> last night i got all bent out of shape from some wingnut's stupid post about ltsp5 in debian ... :(
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22:55 | <sbalneav> Which post was this?
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22:56 | links plz kthxbye
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22:56 | <vagrantc_> yeah, i should spread the love
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22:57 | sbalneav: it's all the stuff referenced at the top of: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Debian#Installing_LTSP_5_in_Debian_Etch
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22:57 | it's just someone's post because they understood ltsp4, had some troubles with ltsp5, and apparently thinks it's my conspiracy to hide the secret knowledge of how to use ltsp5 on debian
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22:58 | <slidesinger> I'm working on an LSF box now that will be running 5
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22:58 | <vagrantc_> i mean, i'd say ltsp5 has some rought edges, for sure. but i'd rather see bug reports than stumble upon some random rant on the internet...
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22:59 | <sbalneav> Heh.
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22:59 | <vagrantc_> saying things like "i wonder if it's even possible to install ltsp5 on debian"
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22:59 | it's not that bad, is it?
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22:59 | <sbalneav> No.
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23:00 | SOme people just like to complain.
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23:00 | <vagrantc_> yeah
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23:00 | i had to email jim to reset my wiki password so i could edit that page, even!
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23:00 | which i still haven't done
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23:01 | <sbalneav> You're going to be in Boston, right?
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23:01 | <vagrantc_> hope so
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23:01 | <sbalneav> Lets you and I sit down for an evening, and take all the docbook stuff I've been doing for edubuntu, and produce an ltsp-doco package for Debian.
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23:02 | Most of it will be one-for-one.
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23:02 | <vagrantc_> i think one of the problems is people coming from ltsp4 try all sorts of complicated stuff to try and get it to work, when really it doesn't even need an lts.conf ... let alone one with tons of entries
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23:03 | <sbalneav> Yeah. We've got the handbook, and I always point people at it, and I'd say 99% of the people haven't even looked.
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23:03 | What we need to do is:
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23:03 | <vagrantc_> put it on a webpage ?
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23:03 | <sbalneav> convert the doco, and add anything we feel's missing
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23:03 | <vagrantc_> and reference it everywhere
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23:04 | <sbalneav> do a docbook to web translation
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23:04 | and have roughtly the same stuff for debian and ubuntu
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23:04 | There's lots of good info in the handbook, we just need to diseminate it better.
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23:06 | Don't take it too hard. Some people just like to poke holes in other peoples suits.
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23:06 | Nothin you can do about it.
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23:13 | <vagrantc_> well, first off, i'm editing the wiki page to at least point to better information ... :)
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23:27 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: i'd also put an exit as part of the if [ -d "${CHROOT}" ]; then ; blah blah blah ; else exit [01] ; fi
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23:27 | sbalneav: not sure if that should be an error or just silently exit
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23:29 | <sbalneav> Yep, good point
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23:29 | I'd say that one's an error.
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23:30 | the chroot doesn't exist.
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23:30 | <vagrantc_> still seems silly to check with ${IMAGE} outside of the scope where it gets defined ...
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23:31 | <sbalneav> So, you're thinking move all that stuff in the if block
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23:31 | * sbalneav ponders. | |
23:31 | <sbalneav> ok
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23:31 | <vagrantc_> some of it, at least
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23:31 | <sbalneav> My rubber arm is sufficiently twisted :)
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23:31 | <vagrantc_> heh
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23:31 | <sbalneav> Gimme a minute or two
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23:32 | <vagrantc_> mainly, though, i'm happy to see if behave properly ... with those patches i think i can probably upload to debian, but still default to nfs
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23:32 | s,see if,see it,
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23:44 | <sbalneav> vagrantc_: OK, think I got something, gimme a minute to run it, see if it parses without error
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23:44 | then I'll push
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23:45 | <vagrantc_> well, can probably find someone to upload to debian
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23:49 | <sbalneav> ok
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23:49 | pushed, see if you like that one.
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23:49 | I check the CHROOT early, and just bomb out if it's not there
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23:50 | and then everything else is wrapped in the nbd test.
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23:50 | That should work for the nfs chroots
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23:57 | <vagrantc_> sbalneav: you rock :)
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