IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 5 November 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:13 | <sbalneav> !vagrant++
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| 00:13 | !vagrant++
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| 00:13 | !karma
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| 00:13 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Highest karma: "jammcq" (8192), "sbalneav" (7), and "dtrask" (7). Lowest karma: "Ahmuck" (1), "moxie" (1), and "brendan" (1). You (sbalneav) are ranked 2 out of 13.
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| 00:14 | <sbalneav> !karma vagrantc
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| 00:14 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: vagrantc has neutral karma.
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| 00:14 | <sbalneav> !vagrantc++
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| 00:14 | !vagrantc++
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| 00:14 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 00:14 | <sbalneav> !karma vagrantc
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| 00:14 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Karma for "vagrantc" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2.
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| 00:14 | <sbalneav> Have a couple free ones on me
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| 00:14 | You deserve it.
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| 00:14 | <vagrantc> jammcq must have written a for loop or something :)
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| 00:15 | <sbalneav> Nah, I caught someone --'ing him
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| 00:15 | I put a stop to it :)
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| 00:15 | <vagrantc> pfft.
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| 00:15 | does it have negative ratings?
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| 00:16 | <sbalneav> Oh, yeah
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| 00:16 | You can put someone in the -
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| 00:16 | <vagrantc> i bet this group's too nice to really get too neative
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| 00:16 | <sbalneav> Hope so :)
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| 00:16 | Hey, you got a multi-bin printer at freegeek? Like an hp4250 or equiv?
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| 00:17 | <vagrantc> no idea
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| 00:17 | probably seen some come through over the years, but no idea if anything on hand and working at the moment ...
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| 00:17 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 00:17 | * vagrantc remembers the klicky keyboard debts | |
| 00:17 | <sbalneav> if you had one handy there, I was gonna ask you to test something for me tomorrow.
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| 00:18 | didn't WANT one, just wanted to test a cups bug, see if it bites debian
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| 00:18 | <vagrantc> i so wish i had a chance to set up an LTSP test lab at freegeek.
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| 00:18 | <sbalneav> You had one there, didn't you?
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| 00:18 | you had terminals anyway
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| 00:19 | <vagrantc> yeah, we've got a few terminals ... though fewer with each passing year, it seems.
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| 00:19 | <johnny> do people use em?
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| 00:19 | <vagrantc> but i was thinking a lab running LTSP on sparc, mips, mipsel, armel, etc. all the wacky stuff
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| 00:19 | <johnny> i wish we had more.. but we ran out of space
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| 00:19 | <vagrantc> johnny: yeah, they're used constantly... people also complain about them constantly :(
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| 00:20 | <johnny> so.. why fewer then :)
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| 00:20 | that doesn't make any sense :)
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| 00:20 | <vagrantc> but they're mostly logged into a single-proc xen instance with only 2G of ram and a 3GHz proc
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| 00:20 | <johnny> you'd think you would have something better than that coming through..
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| 00:21 | <vagrantc> i'm contemplating switching away from xen as there's a bug that doesn't allow us to take advantage of multi-proc xen instances
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| 00:21 | <johnny> to kvm?
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| 00:21 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: What do they complain about?
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| 00:21 | <vagrantc> well, the server's got 5G of ram ... and we've got some dual 2.4-3.6GHz xeons ... but they don't really cut it.
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| 00:22 | johnny: yeah, kvm would be nice, if we actually got enough hardware that supported it
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| 00:22 | <johnny> vagrantc, how about more powerful clients?
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| 00:22 | do more local apps?
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| 00:22 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: "it's so slow i keep making typing mistakes"
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| 00:22 | <johnny> even your lower bound machines should be able to handle it these days?
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| 00:22 | <vagrantc> johnny: yeah, basically that's my next plan ... switch to fatclients.
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| 00:23 | can probably get a couple labs with 1.8-2GHz procs, and 512-1G of ram.
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| 00:23 | <johnny> altho those probably don't tend to come with tons of ram..
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| 00:23 | luckily you have plenty of extras
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| 00:23 | <vagrantc> or maybe as low as 1.4GHz.
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| 00:24 | <johnny> i could use some more ram for some slightly old machines
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| 00:24 | <vagrantc> the lowest end stuff that took pc-133 ram.
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| 00:24 | <johnny> i think the ones we have are slightly better
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| 00:24 | it's just not stuff you can easily buy
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| 00:24 | <sbalneav> how fast are the thin clients?
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| 00:25 | <johnny> i need to get one of you free geekers to rummage for me and send me a few :)
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| 00:25 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: the ones most used are 1GHz ... some 800MHz.
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| 00:25 | <johnny> i'll pay postage
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| 00:25 | <sbalneav> my desktops are only 1ghz
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| 00:25 | via's
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| 00:25 | <johnny> i have a lshw report for each somewhere..
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| 00:25 | <vagrantc> these are just compaq deskpro EN's mostly.
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| 00:26 | we've got a few boxes of genuine thin-clients i want to try out ... but that would probably kill the whole switching to localapps idea.
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| 00:26 | <johnny> i think if i had 512 in each i could just run local apps
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| 00:26 | and not run a seperate server just for ltsp
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| 00:26 | for only 3 pcs..
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| 00:27 | <vagrantc> the fatclient trick that nubae and stgraber worked on seems pretty good ... though i wonder what quirks i'll encounter when actually deploying.
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| 00:27 | <sbalneav> Well, heading to bed.
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| 00:27 | night
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| 00:27 | * vagrantc waves | |
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| 03:14 | <_Shane> I have just updated my LTSP Server's X server from xorg-1.5 to xorg-1.6 and now all my clients start up with a US style keyboard. Previously all keyboards were properly recognised as UK keyboards. Can anyone suggest any settings or files to look at?
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| 03:17 | <alkisg_work> Distro/version?
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| 03:17 | <_Shane> Gentoo 10.0
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| 03:18 | <alkisg_work> I've no idea, unless gentoo uses consoletools like ubuntu :)
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| 03:18 | You can select a custom keyboard layout from lts.conf, though, if you can't solve it "properly" then it's a solution...
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| 03:19 | http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#keyboard
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| 03:20 | brb
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| 03:56 | <Appiah> hm
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| 04:36 | <_Shane> As per my problem earlier, it appears that setxkbmap was missing from /usr/bin on the ltsp chroot. Installing this file appears to have solved my problems.
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| 05:06 | <Peste_Bubonica> Hi all
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| 05:07 | Can I boot a ethernet card, with RPL? I have a old PC, that I want to use as client of my ltsp server, but the card uses a novel RPL protocol
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| 05:31 | <alkisg_work> Peste_Bubonica: does it have a floppy/cd/hard disk? it'll be much, much easier if you use gpxe (etherboot.org)
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| 05:34 | <Peste_Bubonica> alkisg_work, understood... theres any support from RPL?
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| 05:34 | many older cards uses it
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| 05:35 | <alkisg_work> There's some really old documentation in ltsp.org, so I think it'll get you some time to make it work...
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| 05:35 | http://www.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/RPL
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| 05:35 | If you can get it to work, it'd be nice if you updated the wiki as well.
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| 05:36 | Ah, and this documentation is about the microsoft style, not the novell one :(
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| 05:55 | <Peste_Bubonica> alexqwesa_, I will read about! many thanks
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| 05:58 | <Appiah> rpl? how old is the client Peste_Bubonica ?
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| 06:08 | <Peste_Bubonica> Appiah, Is a SiS M810 motherboard
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| 06:08 | with a SiS 900 onboard... a PC from 2002...
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| 06:09 | I think that is better to buy a new ethernet card with pxe
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| 06:38 | <scottmaccal> Morning all.
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| 06:39 | squarepeg: working Mac LTSP today?
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| 07:11 | <kdegel> morning
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| 07:20 | <Peste_Bubonica> Appiah, it works... i overwrite the flash module of the card, inserting a gpxe bios :)
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| 07:27 | <Peste_Bubonica> Appiah, it is not exactly what ive trying to do, but works: http://etherboot.org/wiki/amibios
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| 08:27 | <Appiah> Peste_Bubonica: aha ok
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| 08:32 | <palichis1> hello, I have a problem with my ltsp server, I can not login in my clients to the server machine, anyone has any idea
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| 08:33 | <Gadi> palichis1: did you change the IP address after building the client?
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| 08:33 | <palichis1> Gadi: no
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| 08:34 | <Gadi> can you ssh to the server IP as the user you are trying to login as?
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| 08:36 | <palichis1> Gadi: I do not have consoles on my clients
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| 08:36 | <Gadi> well, you can first try from the server
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| 08:36 | open a terminal window on the server
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| 08:36 | and try to ssh to the server IP as the user
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| 08:40 | <palichis1> Gadi: i have "permission denied"
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| 08:41 | <Gadi> that would be the problem
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| 08:41 | <Gadi> is ssh server installed on that machine?
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| 08:41 | what distro?
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| 08:41 | <palichis1> ubuntu 9.10
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| 08:42 | yes, ssh server is installed
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| 08:42 | <Gadi> run: ifconfig and make sure the IPs are as you expect them to be
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| 08:43 | if you cannot ssh to the server, then ldm will not work
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| 08:43 | so, you need to fix that
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| 08:43 | <palichis1> yes, they are correct
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| 08:44 | <Gadi> ps -efw|grep sshd
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| 08:44 | is sshd running?
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| 08:45 | if so, ls /home
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| 08:45 | does the user have a home directory?
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| 08:45 | <palichis1> yes sshd is runing, and yes i have a directory of user
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> ok, sudo tail /var/log/auth.log
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| 08:46 | does it tell you why sshd is not allowing your user to login?
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| 08:46 | are you using LDAP or local authentication?
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| 08:47 | <kdegel> speaking of LDAP, Gadi, have you dealt with AD authentication?
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| 08:48 | <Gadi> yup - I wrote the wiki howto
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| 08:48 | on UbuntuLTSP
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| 08:48 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:48 | <kdegel> ahh ok
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| 08:48 | I'll have to chec kit out
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| 08:48 | kind of wondering how we are going to lock down the desktops with AD logins
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| 08:49 | <Gadi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ActiveDirectoryIntegration
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| 08:50 | <Appiah> morning
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| 08:50 | or good evening :D
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| 08:50 | <palichis1> Gadi: does not say anything the auth.log
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| 08:50 | <kdegel> ahh yes, I have run across that page
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| 08:51 | <Appiah> no way to manage the lockdown via AD today
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| 08:51 | as I know...
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| 08:51 | you will have to lockdown the profile
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| 08:52 | <palichis1> Gadi: but te gdm of client say: no response from server: restarting
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| 08:53 | <kdegel> I've been wondering how to get a new user to log in and get the custom background and such that seems easy to set up via local logins, not so much on domain logins
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| 08:53 | <sbalneav> palichis1: then you're not able to ssh into the server. Have you tried from another full workstation on the network to ssh into that server?
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| 08:54 | <Gadi> palichis1: as soonas you fix ssh access, you will fix everything
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| 08:54 | so, forget about the clients
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| 08:54 | and focus on that
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| 08:54 | kdegel: custom backgrounds are a gconf thing in gnome
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| 08:55 | you can set them system wide on a particular server
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| 08:55 | with gconf-editor
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| 08:56 | <palichis1> sorry, was my mistake .. yes I access the server ssh .. user misspelled
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| 08:56 | <kdegel> Gadi: ahh so even with domain logins, cool
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| 08:56 | <palichis1> but my clients not login
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| 08:56 | <kdegel> haven't gotten that far in this project yet, just things that are still on my mind
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| 08:57 | <sbalneav> palichis1: Did you upgrade this ltsp server from a previous version? Of is this a new install of Karmic?
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| 08:57 | <Gadi> palichis1: for good measure, run: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys; sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 08:57 | <sbalneav> s/Of/Or?
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| 08:57 | <palichis1> sbalneav: is this a new install of Karmic?
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| 08:57 | <Gadi> oh, yeah - good question
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| 08:58 | <sbalneav> Gadi: I'm thinking he might have a jaunty chroot
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| 08:58 | <Gadi> palichis1: yeah, so, is this a fresh install?
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| 08:58 | <sbalneav> palichis1: yes. That's what I'm asking. Did you install Karmic fresh, and build a new chroot, or did you upgrade from Jaunty?
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| 08:58 | <FrozenZia> Hello - n00b question probably, but that's why I'm here: any way to use a Sun Ray thin client with Edubuntu LTSP?
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| 08:59 | <sbalneav> FrozenZia: no.
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| 08:59 | <FrozenZia> =o(
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| 08:59 | <Gadi> sun rays are not really computers
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| 08:59 | <palichis1> Gadi: yes is fresh
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| 08:59 | <Gadi> :)
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| 08:59 | <FrozenZia> Alrighty then. Tx!
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| 09:00 | <sbalneav> palichis1: then what I'd do to test is add "SCREEN_02=shell" to your lts.conf file, so you can get a login shell
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| 09:00 | <palichis1> sbalneav: is a fresh instalation the hdd is formated
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> palichis1: right
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| 09:00 | <sbalneav> palichis1: so you built a brand new chroot with ltsp-build-client?
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> as in not an update from 9.04
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| 09:01 | hehe - maybe this is just easier:
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| 09:01 | palichis1: do: sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386; sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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| 09:02 | and get some coffee
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| 09:02 | :)
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| 09:06 | <palichis> Gadi: sbalneav: tanks it's run.. I run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys; sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 09:07 | <Peste_Bubonica> hi all... ive finished the installation of ltsp, and the guest machines are booting sucefully
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| 09:07 | <alkisg> Peste_Bubonica: what did you do with the RPL thing?
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| 09:07 | <Peste_Bubonica> after load, the x server starts, and comes a blue screen, with ltsp.org information, asking by login...
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| 09:08 | alkisg, nope.. does not works... the rpl daemon for linux is very old... the last version is about 2001
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| 09:08 | alkisg, it not compiles.. :(
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> Ah :(
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| 09:08 | <Peste_Bubonica> alkisg, anyway, ive replaced de rom of my ethernet card
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| 09:08 | with success
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> Heh, nice ;)
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> Now you can boot even from http!
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| 09:08 | <Peste_Bubonica> now, I have a SiS900 with a gPXE loader builtin... totally diskless
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| 09:09 | im using tftp
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| 09:09 | :)
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| 09:09 | but yes... is possible to build a rom with this support
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| 09:09 | alkisg, the problem, is... i cant do anything on the system...
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| 09:09 | i cant login with any user...
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| 09:09 | ive created one, but when I loging, the X restarts, and ask for login again
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| 09:11 | <alkisg> "ive created one" ==> on the server, not on the chroot, right?
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| 09:13 | <Peste_Bubonica> on the chroot
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| 09:13 | it is wrong?
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| 09:13 | <alkisg> No you should use a "server" user to logon
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| 09:14 | <Peste_Bubonica> hmmmmmm
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| 09:14 | <alkisg> No users should be created on the chroot
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| 09:14 | <Peste_Bubonica> im newbe... sorry by this... let me try!
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| 09:15 | alkisg, if I wanna use a gnome, or windowmaker window manager, I need install it on the chroot right?
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| 09:15 | <alkisg> Nope. Everything goes on the server
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| 09:15 | So if e.g. you have installed the server using the ubuntu server CD, you won't be able to logon
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| 09:15 | You'll need to install ubuntu-desktop on the server first.
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| 09:16 | <Peste_Bubonica> alkisg, im using gentoo
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| 09:17 | <alkisg> Sorry, but I hope you get what I mean
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| 09:17 | <Peste_Bubonica> understood... sure :)
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| 09:17 | <alkisg> You need an environment on the server
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| 09:18 | <Peste_Bubonica> alkisg, the chroot enviroment is used for what so?
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| 09:19 | only to give a user a system that can be connected to the server?
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| 09:19 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 09:19 | With one exception: localapps. If one has very strong clients, he can install more apps on the chroot.
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| 09:19 | (that's more advanced stuff, for later ;))
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| 09:19 | <Peste_Bubonica> is because that that I cant login on X... i dont heve xorg-x11 on the server... only in chroot
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| 09:20 | <alkisg> (but well if you use gentoo I don't think you'll find localapps difficult :D)
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| 09:20 | <Peste_Bubonica> many thanks by tips... im compiling a xorg now... for tests...
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| 09:20 | <alkisg> Good luck!
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| 09:20 | <Peste_Bubonica> alkisg, I hope so :)...
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| 09:20 | thanks by the patience with a newbe
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| 09:21 | a newbe with a horrible english :P
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| 09:22 | <alkisg> Don't worry we're many people here that we're newbies _and_ speak horrible english :D
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| 09:25 | <sbalneav> alkisg: btw, I patched supybot last night, drevil's back in business.
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| 09:25 | <alkisg> !s
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| 09:25 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:25 | <alkisg> Yeah!!!!! ;)
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| 09:25 | <sbalneav> ltspbot: status
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| 09:25 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: I am connected to freenode as ltspbot.
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| 09:25 | <sbalneav> !karma
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| 09:25 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Highest karma: "jammcq" (8192), "sbalneav" (7), and "dtrask" (7). Lowest karma: "Ahmuck" (1), "moxie" (1), and "brendan" (1). You (sbalneav) are ranked 2 out of 14.
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| 09:26 | <FrozenZia> Peste - probably no help, don't know, but I just got my 1st thin client working minutes ago. I installed edubuntu 9.10 with LTSP server option on machine A with 2 network cards, then took machine B on the same network and booted it via NetworkBoot -- it automagically started LTSP and asked 4 username. I created a user on the server, then used that username/pw to log on to machine B - it just worked! (sorry, but I was amazed)
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| 09:26 | <alkisg> !sbalneav++
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| 09:26 | !karma sbalneav
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| 09:26 | <ltspbot> alkisg: Karma for "sbalneav" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
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| 09:26 | <alkisg> !karma sbalneav++
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| 09:26 | <ltspbot> alkisg: sbalneav++ has neutral karma.
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| 09:26 | <alkisg> Urm... :(
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| 09:27 | <sbalneav> there's no relationship between the userids. any "thing" can have karma
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| 09:27 | so you just asked for the karma of "sbalneav++"
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| 09:27 | ltspbot: karma LOL
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| 09:27 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: LOL has neutral karma.
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| 09:29 | <alkisg> But how can I give you a karma point for fixing supybot?
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| 09:30 | <sbalneav> You did
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| 09:30 | with the !sbalneav++
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| 09:31 | karma adds are silent
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| 09:31 | !alkisg++
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| 09:31 | !karma alkisg
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| 09:31 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Karma for "alkisg" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
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| 09:31 | <alkisg> Aaah!!! ok :)
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| 09:31 | <sbalneav> Have a karma
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| 09:31 | <alkisg> !alkisg--
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| 09:31 | <ltspbot> alkisg: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
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| 09:32 | <sbalneav> karma karma karma karma karma chameleon
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| 09:32 | you come and go
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| 09:32 | you come and goooooooo
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| 09:32 | <alkisg_karma> !alkisg--
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| 09:32 | <alkisg> !karma
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| 09:32 | <ltspbot> alkisg: Highest karma: "jammcq" (8192), "sbalneav" (8), and "dtrask" (7). Lowest karma: "alkisg" (0), "Ahmuck" (1), and "moxie" (1). You (alkisg) are ranked 15 out of 15.
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| 09:32 | <sbalneav> Lovin was easy if your colours were like my dreams
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| 09:32 | <alkisg> ;)
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| 09:32 | <sbalneav> red gold and green
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| 09:32 | red gold and green
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| 09:33 | <alkisg> 8192??? someone's stealing...
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| 09:33 | <sbalneav> I caught some miscreant doing a -- on jammcq
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| 09:33 | I'm sorry, but there's just some things I won't stand for :)
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| 09:34 | and jammcq gets infinite karma for starting LTSP
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| 09:34 | Hey, I gotta get SOME perks for running the bot :)
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| 09:34 | * alkisg wonders and which number the karma overflows and goes back to negative numbers... :D | |
| 09:34 | <alkisg> *at
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| 09:34 | <sbalneav> well, it uses sqlite for the db
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| 09:35 | so, I think the karma's a 32 bit integer.
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| 09:36 | <sbalneav> Hey Chuck
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| 09:37 | How's the new abode coming?
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| 09:40 | <squarepeg> trimming..
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| 09:41 | on the phone..
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| 09:42 | * lupine_85 lols hard at the way ltsp-localapps talks to ltsp-localappsd | |
| 09:42 | <lupine_85> talk about awesome
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| 09:42 | <squarepeg> mt wife is painting stuff before it goes up..
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| 09:43 | yes he is
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| 09:43 | Gadi Rocks too 8~)
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| 09:45 | <sbalneav> lupine_85: You mean via the X atoms?
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| 09:45 | <lupine_85> yeah
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| 09:45 | makes me :D
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| 09:46 | <sbalneav> Well, it's a simple solution to the problem.
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| 09:46 | <lupine_85> oh, absolutely
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| 09:46 | <lupine_85> and I don't really know enough about x properties to say whether it's a good idea or not
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| 09:47 | it just struck me as funny
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| 09:48 | * lupine_85 is just cleaning up and finalising our brand-new 'desk4' - LTSP server for 10 people | |
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| 09:48 | <sbalneav> they're just a way to store arbitrary bits of information in the X server's memory.
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| 09:48 | <lupine_85> it's been such a smooth setup, it's awesome
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| 09:48 | <sbalneav> they mostly get used for storing properties for windows, etc.
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| 09:49 | but they can be used for literally anything. And since they can... we did.
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| 09:49 | <lupine_85> aye
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| 09:49 | * lupine_85 packs firefox, flash and java into the ltsp chroot, calls it a day | |
| 09:52 | <tarzeau> heh
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| 09:52 | lupine_85: you use ltsp with nfs homes?
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| 09:52 | <sbalneav> I do.
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| 09:52 | <tarzeau> lupine_85: ff 3.5.3?
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| 09:52 | sbalneav: so do we. does it crash often for you?
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| 09:53 | <tarzeau> did someone install thunderbird 3.x yet?
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| 09:53 | <lupine_85> tarzeau: not really sure. and 3.5, ayer
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| 09:53 | <sbalneav> does *what* crash? NFS? the LTSP server?
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| 09:54 | <tarzeau> sbalneav: firefox
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| 09:54 | <lupine_85> ah, no. We use sshfs
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| 09:54 | <sbalneav> tarzeau: no, not really.
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| 09:54 | <lupine_85> presumably that could end up being a bottleneck...
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| 09:54 | <sbalneav> every once in a while. But we don't use a lot of flash, which is the biggest troublemaker.
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| 09:56 | <tarzeau> ok
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| 10:10 | <dro> Ok guys I am having sound issues today with a different type of box
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| 10:10 | <dro> the other day Gadi suggested that I run: sudo ltsp-localapps xterm and in the xterm session type "alsamixer -c0" except ubuntu doesn't use alsamixer so I tried gnome-alsamixer but that little program isn't working
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| 10:11 | is there a way to find out what audio channels are being used so i can control the volume of them in lts.conf ?
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| 10:12 | <sbalneav> dro: Why not just install alsamixer in the chroot
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| 10:13 | <dro> sbalneav: i tried sudo apt-get install alsamixer but that was invalid, so thats why I tried gnome-alsamixer
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| 10:13 | <sbalneav> are you SURE alsamixer isn't there by default?
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| 10:13 | <dro> trying to run alsamixer gives me a file not found error
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| 10:14 | <sbalneav> then THAT would indicate that sound's not even loaded on that workstation
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| 10:15 | <sbalneav> probably the sound card's not being detected.
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| 10:16 | <dro> when I don't use a lts.conf the sound works great
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| 10:16 | but my lts.conf uses a rdesktop screen script, so I need to figure out which audio channel it's using to set the volume
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| 10:16 | <Peste_Bubonica> alkisg, it does no run yet...
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| 10:17 | <dro> so far I've tried VOLUME=100 and HEADPHONE_VOLUME=100 which has worked for all my other stations
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| 10:17 | <Peste_Bubonica> alkisg, I need to have a running xorg config on the server? like video configuration, this things?
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| 10:17 | <alkisg> Peste_Bubonica: no, the files are only needed for the clients
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| 10:17 | But for gentoo, johnny is your man ;)
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| 10:18 | <Peste_Bubonica> alkisg, :)...
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| 10:19 | johnny, are you there?
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| 10:19 | alkisg, only one more thing... my ltsp server is a XEN domU
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| 10:19 | it can change anything?
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> I don't think so, but then again, I've never used xen - others here have, though, so wait for more experienced persons...
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| 10:21 | <Peste_Bubonica> ok... many thanks again alkisg
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| 10:21 | <dro> alkisg: wanted to let you know that my 9.10 proxydhcp setup is working like a champ
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| 10:22 | <alkisg> dro: nice! is the wiki page ok?
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| 10:22 | <dro> alkisg: the fix for ltsp-update-kernels I believe is wrong, I haven't checked since you last updated it
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| 10:23 | <dro> alkisg: I say it's wrong not because I tried it, but because you told me it was wrong lol and to use something different
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| 10:23 | <alkisg> Ah ok, the new version should be ok
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| 11:10 | <Peste_Bubonica> how can I configure a window manager default for the users? With the default configs, im getting only the Pure X on start
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| 11:18 | <FrozenZia> Ok, I had my very 1st client up and running just fine, I *think* the only change I made to the server was to install iTalc, went to restart the client, and now it can't get the tftp connection to work...?
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| 11:19 | I'm getting this "PXE-E11- ARP timeout" message.
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| 11:20 | <sbalneav> Do you have another dhcp server on your network that may be serving the thin client an address, but not the tftp files?
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| 11:20 | <FrozenZia> Do I need to do ltsp-update-image after every change to the server?
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| 11:20 | sbalneav: yes, that's possible.
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| 11:20 | <sbalneav> No, shouldn't need to.
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| 11:20 | <FrozenZia> Or rather, yes, there is.
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| 11:21 | I guess I need to add something in the dhcp.conf file of the other server 2 tell it 2 leave this thin client alone?
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| 11:23 | <sbalneav> The typical way that *I* recomment to people is to use 2 nics in an ltsp server. One that connects to your backbone infrastructue, and one that serves your thin clients on it's own switch.
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| 11:24 | that way, you never have to get duelling dhcp servers.
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| 11:25 | <FrozenZia> I actually *have* 2 nics, but am using the same switch right now -- was just trying things out (possibly causing headaches all over our smallish network...)
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| 11:26 | <sbalneav> s/possibly/almost certainly/g :)
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| 11:26 | <FrozenZia> =o)
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| 11:27 | *short* of investing in a new switch, is there a "good" way to do this?
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| 11:27 | <lupine_85> we use a single DHCP server - it's not the one on the LTSP server :D
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| 11:27 | you can use option next-server to get the LTSP clients booting
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| 11:29 | <sbalneav> "Investing"? A 24 port dlink switch is like, $150 :) But yeah, buggering about with your existing dhcp server to set the next-server option's the only "other" way to do it.
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| 11:29 | <lupine_85> (mind you, all our LTSP clients and other machines are in the same IP subnet and on the same LAN. all publicly addressable)
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| 11:29 | well, except that there's a firewall in the way
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| 11:30 | really no need to have two DHCP servers, or two NICs
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| 11:30 | (mind you, if you don't have gigabit, you could end up flooding the LAN that way)
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| 11:31 | <sbalneav> I'd say there is.
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| 11:32 | <lupine_85> what does it get you?
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| 11:32 | <sbalneav> X is a very "chatty" protocol. Lots and lots of small packets.
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| 11:32 | Your regular data network's probably trying to send nice big stuff, like NFS packets, HTTP, file transfers, etc.
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| 11:33 | By moving thie thin clients off onto their own switch, you isolate all that traffic on it's own collision domain.
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| 11:33 | <lupine_85> well, if your infrastructure can't handle it (read: cheap switches, and/or 100mbit internet, and/or not Qos), then trying to put it on will lead to problems, yes
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| 11:34 | <sbalneav> That description accounts for better than 90% of all people who try LTSP
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| 11:34 | <FrozenZia> so for instance (I'm still reading/learning) - could I not disable the dhcp on the ltsp server, let the "normal" dhcp server assign the ip address, then use pxelinux.cfg to..... (hmmm, not enuf info to form coherent question... perhaps I should keep reading...)
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| 11:35 | <lupine_85> FrozenZia: you'd have the one DHCP server that gives your LTSP clients and other clients an IP address, then also tells the LTSP clients to get a TFTP boot from another server - the LTSP one. the boot proceeds from there
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| 11:36 | <FrozenZia> ok - so "next-server" just tells the client "fine, you have your address, now go bother that guyover there for the rest of the info you want...."?
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| 11:36 | <lupine_85> ayeaye
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| 11:36 | sbalneav: our office network (plain gigabit, halfway decent switches) handles VoIP, ten busy developers and LTSP without breaking a sweat.
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| 11:38 | sbalneav: since we have a star toplogy with duplex ethernet, we also have no collision domains as far as I'm aware
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| 11:38 | at least, if memory serves. it's been 8 years or so
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| 11:38 | <FrozenZia> And disabling the dhcp server portion of the ltsp server is done how?
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| 11:38 | And thanks for the thoughts on network configuration!
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| 11:39 | <lupine_85> generally you'd just do /etc/init.d/dhcpd (or dhcp3-server) stop then remove it from the default runlevel's setup
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| 11:39 | (/etc/rc2.d or /etc/rc5.d)
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| 11:39 | <FrozenZia> right. tx.
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| 11:39 | <lupine_85> check with your distribution to be sure
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| 11:40 | some setups will have the LTSP clients on one (private or double-NAT) IP subnet and the LTSP server and other machines on another (public or single-NAT)
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| 11:40 | I'm not sure how you'd play with that setup with a single DHCP server, and I'd not want to
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| 11:41 | * lupine_85 wonders if you still get bus networks outside of the usual decades-old educational establishments with no IT budgets | |
| 11:42 | <FrozenZia> Is the ltsp server suppsed to be running tftpd?
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| 11:42 | <lupine_85> yep
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| 11:43 | that's how it provides the initial kernel and stuff (and what the next-server in the dhcp response points at)
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| 11:43 | <FrozenZia> 'cuz one of the 1st things I tried was to restart it, and got a message that the daemon is disabled.
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| 11:43 | (tftpd-hpa)
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| 11:43 | <lupine_85> that's what I have, yeah
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| 11:43 | <korcan> anyone using karmic yet?
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| 11:43 | * lupine_85 probably still counts as a rank ltsp amateur, incidentally | |
| 11:44 | <lupine_85> korcan: just finished upgrading the office ltsp network to it:)
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| 11:44 | <korcan> what is the prefered method to upgrade? apt-get dist-update?
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| 11:44 | lupine_85, any issues?
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| 11:44 | <lupine_85> well, we didn't upgrade
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| 11:44 | got new hardware, installed onto that, migration is in progress
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| 11:44 | <korcan> lupine_85, fresh install?
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| 11:44 | <lupine_85> no, none. remarkably easy to set up
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| 11:44 | yeah
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| 11:44 | well. the thin clients don't seem to shut down properl
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| 11:45 | they turn off the nbd mount before they issue the hardware reboot commands by the looks of it
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| 11:45 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: tftp is started from inetd in Ubuntu. To see if tftp is running, do: netstat -nap | grep :69
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| 11:45 | <korcan> lupine_85, what are you using for thin clients?
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| 11:45 | <lupine_85> random machines
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| 11:45 | we're planning on moving to nVidia ION-powered clients at some point
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| 11:46 | (we tried some via openchrome/unichrome devices at one point - never again!)
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| 11:46 | awful chipset is awful
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| 11:47 | <FrozenZia> alkisg: tx - found it!
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| 11:47 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: also, there's a way to use a different dhcp server without specifying next-server: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 11:47 | We use it in many schools here.
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| 11:47 | <korcan> lupine_85, look at the intel atom boards we built our own with the intel johnstontown boards (Dual video)
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| 11:47 | <lupine_85> ah, good old dnsmasq :D
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| 11:48 | <alkisg> Yeah, Simon rocks ;)
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| 11:48 | <lupine_85> korcan: the nVidia ION stuff uses Atom CPUs - and we sell Atom 330s as a hosting platform
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| 11:48 | Atom = win :)
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| 11:48 | <korcan> nice :)
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| 11:48 | <lupine_85> ('though I'd still rather be trying to sell ARM hosting. nobody would buy it though, I suspect)
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| 11:49 | <korcan> anyone do a dist-upgrade yet to karmic?
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| 11:50 | <alkisg> Not me personally, but I've heard of many teachers here who did.
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| 13:16 | <Peste_Bubonica> Anyone already have problems halting or rebooting the clients? I got this error: INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
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| 13:16 | and so, I need to reset the client
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| 13:16 | some process of halt is done, like down some daemons, but ive got an error on savecache, and latter, this message
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| 13:20 | <sbalneav> I beleive there's a patch that's in the works for this.
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| 13:29 | <Peste_Bubonica> sbalneav, it is happening in a distro specifically?
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| 13:29 | sorry by this english
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| 13:31 | <Gadi> Peste_Bubonica: are you talking about from the ldm login screen?
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| 13:31 | <Gadi> or more generally?
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| 13:36 | <Peste_Bubonica> Gadi, even when I try to restart or shutdown
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| 13:36 | my logins is working fine now
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| 13:36 | :)
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| 13:37 | <Gadi> Peste_Bubonica: well, there is a current bug in ldm that it uses "poweroff -p" and "reboot -p" instead of "poweroff -fp" and "reboot -fp"
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| 13:38 | the former cause a normal shutdown sequence through init
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| 13:38 | the latter perform a forced halt/reboot
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| 13:38 | you want the latter
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| 13:39 | <Peste_Bubonica> sorry... but, what is the latter?
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| 13:39 | "latter"
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| 13:39 | <Gadi> former = first one
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| 13:39 | latter = last one
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| 13:40 | in other words, "-p" => goes through init
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| 13:40 | <dro> Peste_Bubonica: here is a smiley that explain: 1<x( 2>)
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| 13:40 | <Gadi> "-fp" => simply halts/reboots the system
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| 13:40 | <dro> the 1st one is a x cuz it tastes bad, and the 2 is a pacman eating the 2
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| 13:41 | <Peste_Bubonica> Gadi, oh... sorry... I dont know some terms...
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| 13:41 | Gadi, many thanks... it works...
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| 13:41 | Gadi, exist some way to fix it? changing some script on ldm?
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| 13:42 | <Gadi> you need to grab the source
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| 13:42 | and recompile
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| 13:42 | its in greeter.c
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| 13:42 | <Peste_Bubonica> oh... my chroot enviroment was builded by a script on gentoo...
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| 13:42 | but i will try
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| 13:48 | <Ahmuck_> i've got an unusual problem. i have users that are in /media and it doesn't appear they are bieng released after logout. their folders are there
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| 13:50 | usb camera's are not mounting in ubuntu ltsp 9.10
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| 13:50 | <Gadi> users dont live in /media
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| 13:50 | only their media
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| 13:51 | <Ahmuck_> i assume this may be all devices in usb?
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| 13:51 | <Gadi> usb cameras have 2 modes: "usb storage" and PTP
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| 13:51 | only the former will currently work
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| 13:51 | <Ahmuck_> Gadi: their media? so if every user creates media, a folder will be listed there indefinitely?
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| 13:52 | <ogra> Gadi, liar
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| 13:52 | <Ahmuck_> prior to 9.10, iirc, the usb cameara used to mount
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| 13:52 | <ogra> ogra@osiris:~$ ls /media/sofa/
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| 13:52 | couchpotato
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| 13:52 | <Ahmuck_> /media/someone will always be there if they have media?
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| 13:53 | <Gadi> Ahmuck_: hmm... actually, no it should be cleaned - if we still run ltspfsmounter all cleanup
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| 13:53 | do the users logout cleanly?
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| 13:53 | <Ahmuck_> hrm, it doesn't appear to be happening. could this be because of improper logout/shutdown
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| 13:53 | <ogra> no
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| 13:53 | <Ahmuck_> Gadi: not always. sometimes they just use the on/off button
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| 13:54 | <ogra> then they keep the dirs
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| 13:54 | <Ahmuck_> this would be expected user behavior
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| 13:54 | <ogra> add a cron script
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| 13:54 | <Ahmuck_> so improper logout would keep the dir in /media?
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| 13:54 | <ogra> yes
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| 13:55 | <Ahmuck_> is there a way to add this to an ltsp installation as an automatic feature?
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| 13:55 | <ogra> the last thing ldm does on logout is umounting the local devices
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| 13:55 | if you just kill ldm by pulling the plug it cant do that
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| 13:55 | as i said, write a cronscript that checks /media against logged in users
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| 13:55 | <Ahmuck_> does the server know if the user is logged in or not based on random pings to client?
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| 13:56 | <ogra> the server does know it with the who or w command
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| 13:56 | <Ahmuck_> i wouldn't know how to write a cron script
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| 13:57 | <Gadi> Ahmuck_: before you go too crazy, what is the problem with a bunch of extra empty directories?
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| 13:57 | aside from the poor housekeeping awards
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| 13:57 | <Ahmuck_> it's annoying. /media is used for usb camera, usb devices, etc. on the server side
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| 13:57 | <Gadi> ;)
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| 13:58 | <Ahmuck_> though i've began to wonder if this might be part of the problem with users unable to start firefox
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| 13:58 | <Gadi> dont you usually access those thru Places -> Computer?
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| 13:58 | <Ahmuck_> on the server, yes
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| 13:58 | <Gadi> or do you actually browse to /media?
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| 13:58 | <Ahmuck_> unfortunately, those the camera is not mounting on the client
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| 13:59 | i do
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| 13:59 | <Gadi> ah, ok
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| 13:59 | yeah, so an hourly cron job might do you some good
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| 14:00 | <Ahmuck_> Gadi, one of the issues i noticed is that even if the client logs back in, and then out the directory is still there. this makes me wonder if this is what's causing firefox to refuse to open with a statement that it is already open
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| 14:00 | <Gadi> are the dirs mounted or just empty?
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| 14:01 | <Ahmuck_> it doesn't appear their mounted, as i've tried to umount them. as far as empty, i've only tried to access them user side, and they are locked
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| 14:02 | <ogra> Ahmuck, FF doesnt do anything in /media
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| 14:02 | <Gadi> right
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| 14:02 | <ogra> that cant affect it
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| 14:02 | <Ahmuck_> it appears that there are cdrom and floppy directories there
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| 14:02 | * Gadi has had wonky cases on his home PC where firefox will be running but have no window open | |
| 14:02 | * CAN-o-SPAM too | |
| 14:03 | <Gadi> usually when the kids are doing flash things with popups
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| 14:03 | <CAN-o-SPAM> ive had trouble with thunderbird acting similarly, won't populate the window
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| 14:03 | <Ahmuck_> Gadi: does this persist after loging out and logging back in?
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| 14:03 | <Gadi> the firefox thing? I dunno - I usually open a terminal and do a pkill firefox
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| 14:04 | kids are the most demanding of users
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| 14:04 | ;)
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| 14:04 | <Ahmuck_> pkill by name?
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| 14:04 | <Gadi> what dya mean?
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| 14:04 | <ogra> unlikely that it could survive a killed X server
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| 14:05 | so logout would clean it in Gadis case
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| 14:05 | <Gadi> right
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| 14:05 | <Ahmuck_> a reboot doesn't clear it
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| 14:05 | server reboot
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| 14:05 | <Gadi> in your case?
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| 14:05 | <ogra> a server reboot doesnt clear running processes ?
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| 14:06 | <Ahmuck_> yes
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| 14:06 | <Gadi> hold the phone
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| 14:06 | <Ahmuck_> a server reboot won't clear the firefox hangup
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| 14:06 | <Gadi> is it a firefox localapp?
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| 14:06 | <Ahmuck_> um, i'd have to check. i don't recall
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| 14:07 | <Gadi> thats the only way I could see the process hanging around - if its on a machine that isnt actually turned off
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| 14:07 | ;)
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| 14:07 | <Ahmuck_> heh, all the machines get turned off
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| 14:07 | it goes away after about 3 days
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| 14:07 | <Gadi> ok, so thats weird
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| 14:08 | <ogra> sounds like a /tmp issue or so
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| 14:09 | <Ahmuck_> i've just been providing alternate logins
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| 14:09 | <FrozenZia> Hullo again - trying to get my next-server line right in my dhcp server, so that it sends my client to the right tftp server...
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| 14:10 | currently have something like:
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| 14:10 | next-server 192.168.0.154;
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| 14:10 | option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 14:10 | if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" {
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| 14:10 | filename "opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.0";
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| 14:10 | } else {
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| 14:10 | filename "opt/ltsp/i386/boot/nbi.img";
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| 14:10 | }
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| 14:11 | <Ahmuck_> pastebin
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| 14:11 | <FrozenZia> Doesn't seem to be working
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| 14:11 | <Gadi> FrozenZia: yuck - you have tftp server serving up the rootfs of the server?
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| 14:11 | give me the IP, I'll take ur porn for free
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| 14:12 | <Ahmuck_> btw, i just deleted the folders in the /media directory
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| 14:13 | <Gadi> Ahmuck_with rmdir?
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| 14:19 | <vmlintu> Are there any pulseaudio tweaking examples around? I'm trying to figure out where to start to change the alsa channel on the thin client that is controlled by gnome-volume-control-appet. Now it control's Master channel, but I'd need it to control Master Mono or Master and Master Mono at the same time..
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| 14:22 | <Ahmuck_> Gadi: sudo nautalis
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| 14:22 | click, delete
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| 14:50 | <fasthans> hi. any positiv or negativ experience with LTSP under karmic 9.10
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| 14:51 | I still have a problem with a cups printer under 9.04 that is showing up only after 15 seconds on the clients
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| 14:52 | <Ahmuck_> what printer?
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| 14:52 | <fasthans> an HP network printer
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| 14:52 | <Ahmuck_> using hplip?
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| 14:52 | <fasthans> I am not sure
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| 14:52 | <Ahmuck_> sudo aptitude search hplip
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| 14:53 | <fasthans> when the client starts gimp as localapp and wants to print, the printer dialog shows this printer only after about 15 seconds
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| 14:53 | I cannot test now. the server is at school.
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| 14:54 | could it be a routing problem?
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| 15:10 | <rjune> !seen jammcq
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| 15:10 | <ltspbot> rjune: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 2 days, 0 hours, 25 minutes, and 1 second ago: <jammcq> sbalneav: how about you and I go to Dallas to UDS and bang a few heads together?
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| 15:16 | <_UsUrPeR_> -hey all. I'm working with the ltsp-cluster server installation instructions for 9.10 located at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSP-Cluster
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| 15:16 | and I'm having a problem starting nbd server
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| 15:16 | here's a pastebin to the error: http://pastebin.com/m1d9140e9
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| 15:16 | can anybody point me in the right direction?
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| 15:19 | <FrozenZia> Ok, help a fool? 2 network cards in my ltsp server - how do I determine which address is serving up the tftp?
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| 15:19 | <_UsUrPeR_> FrozenZia: it's all determined in /etc/ldap/dhcpd.conf
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| 15:20 | though technically tftp should be working on both interfaces....
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| 15:20 | <FrozenZia> Or perhaps in /etc/inetd.conf in my case? (Edubuntu 9.10)
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| 15:21 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: nbd-server should not run as a service - it is run out of inetd
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| 15:21 | FrozenZia: tftpd also runs out of inetd and will serve up on all interfaces
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| 15:23 | _UsUrPeR_: do not run the nbd-server service - keep it off -> if you cannot reach the NBD server, then your inetd is screwed up - did you happen to accidentally install xinetd?
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| 15:23 | <FrozenZia> Still having next-server issues, and at this point am not sure which address to put there, 'cuz everything looks right, but it's still not working.
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| 15:23 | <Gadi> FrozenZia: did you fix what you pasted earlier?
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| 15:23 | <FrozenZia> Yeah.
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| 15:23 | <Gadi> !pastebot
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| 15:23 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 15:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: have been following along with the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSP-Cluster
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| 15:24 | Gadi: so no. I have not installed xinetd... unless it came in a package I did not notice.
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| 15:24 | * _UsUrPeR_ checks dpkg | |
| 15:24 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: you mean the ones that include: sudo update-rc.d -f nbd-server remove
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| 15:25 | ;)
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| 15:25 | <_UsUrPeR_> :O
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| 15:28 | <Gadi> which reminds me.... Go Yankees!
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| 15:28 | :D
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| 15:28 | bbiab
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: did you put the clients on a seperate switch?
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| 15:33 | Or do you use a different dhcp server than the ltsp server?
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| 15:33 | <FrozenZia> alkisg: no, don't have the seperate switch. I shut down dhcpd on the LTSP server, and
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| 15:34 | am trying to use next-server option...
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| 15:34 | <alkisg> So if you install tftp-hpa (*not* the daemon) and try to get a file from the server with tftp, does it work?
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| 15:34 | <adrienn> hello everyone! Can you help me figuring out why the option "MOUNT_LOCAL_REAL_HOME" in lts.conf doesn't respect the rights on the files? If I want to open a file in a localapp vlc, I have access to everybody's folders.
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| 15:34 | <alkisg> (or, netstat -nap|grep :69)
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| 15:36 | <johnny> perhpas an nfs option?
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| 15:36 | <FrozenZia> alkisg: that netstat does show that it should be running.
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| 15:38 | <alkisg> FrozenZia: so what settings do you have in that remote dhcp server? Can you upload the dhcpd.conf from there?
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| 15:52 | <adrienn> sorry johnny, where you answering my question?
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| 15:53 | <johnny> yes
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| 15:55 | <adrienn> I'm trying to understand the related script, and what it does is that it mounts the server home on top of the user one with this : sshfs -o allow_other,nonempty,ControlPath....
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| 15:56 | shouldn't that keep the rights on the folders?
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| 15:57 | <johnny> not sure
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| 15:57 | you'll have to ask an expert i guess
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| 15:57 | /me pokes Gadi
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| 15:58 | <adrienn> thank you for the advice ;-) I have to go though but I'll come back tomorrow if I'm still stuck.
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| 16:05 | * Gadi has never seen that lts.conf param before | |
| 16:05 | <Gadi> must be a hack
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| 16:05 | :)
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| 16:08 | <adrienn> I found it in the doc : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GetMoreFromLocalApps
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| 16:08 | and I have to go ;-) Bye
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| 16:09 | <Gadi> a title like that would totally be flageed as spam
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| 16:10 | :)
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| 16:10 | More apps more pleasure
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| 16:10 | <CAN-o-SPAM> hah
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| 16:11 | <Lns> Gadi: speaking of spam on the wiki, you mind taking your 3 month old promotion bit out of the "Hardware Resources" section? ;)
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| 16:11 | <Gadi> :P
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| 16:11 | ok, but I mightscrew it up
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| 16:11 | <Lns> i think you're smart enough to figure it out ;)
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| 16:12 | * Gadi thinks you give him too much credit | |
| 16:13 | <Lns> haha.. always the humble one
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| 16:13 | * Lns loves rebooting servers remotely...oh, the excitement and anticipation of seeing the "Login: " pop up! | |
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| 16:14 | <Lns> ty Gadi :)
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| 16:15 | Since you all declared me the "ubuntu ltsp wiki guy" I must enforce my trout-slapping upon all
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| 16:17 | * Gadi loves a good trout-slapping | |
| 16:19 | <Lns> awww, /slap doesn't work on xchat =p
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| 16:19 | * Lns slaps Gadi with a large trout | |
| 16:19 | * CAN-o-SPAM cheers | |
| 16:19 | <Lns> damn..i need a script for that!
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| 16:20 | * CAN-o-SPAM slaps Lns with a larger Michigan trout :) | |
| 16:20 | <Lns> fish scales hurt like bleeding!
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| 16:21 | <CAN-o-SPAM> just dont reach in the pacific and throw one of those jellies at me
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| 16:21 | <Lns> ha
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| 16:21 | <CAN-o-SPAM> Lns: don't know if you surf, but i heard there was some 9' swells up around your area 2 weeks ago
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| 16:21 | <Gadi> ok, so this whole thread has gone from the perverse to the bizarre
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| 16:22 | <Lns> Gadi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noodling ...hasn't even started. =p
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| 16:22 | CAN-o-SPAM: yeah, there were. Exciting times! But just not big enough...they just told us to stay away from the beach is all
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| 16:22 | <CAN-o-SPAM> saw a tv special on that, i'd love to see it in person
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| 16:23 | <Lns> wait, ' as in feet? nah...it was more like 2' i think
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| 16:23 | if you're talking about the waves from the earthquake not too long ago
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| 16:23 | <CAN-o-SPAM> ah it might have been even more north than you
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| 16:24 | i was at San Onofre (socal) where they were 5' and b-e-a-utiful
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| 16:24 | <Lns> wow, nice! I don't surf, always wanted to though
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| 16:24 | <CAN-o-SPAM> but im back in MI and it's lookin like snow, so i better not get too excited
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| 16:24 | <Lns> up here the water is so freggin cold it's hard to justify it ;)
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| 16:24 | <CAN-o-SPAM> see ya'll later
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| 16:24 | wetsuit ;)
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| 16:24 | <Lns> bye CAN-o-SPAM =)
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| 16:36 | <FrozenZia> Alright - in case anyone was curious as to what happened with my next-server issue: seems I have some flaky hardware or something. I rebooted my LTSP server, and it came up sorta weird - didn
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| 16:37 | 't recognize my other network card, but TFTP was answering again...
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| 16:37 | did another boot, and things looked a lot more normal -- the next-server thing seems to be working -- my client gets to the point where the little gray ubuntu logo is in the middle of the screen
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| 16:38 | at that point, though, nothing.
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| 16:38 | It just seems to hang there.
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| 16:38 | <johnny> remove quiet and splash
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| 16:38 | from the pxelinux.cfg/default file
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| 16:38 | <FrozenZia> why's it hang there?
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| 16:39 | <johnny> remove those things i mentioned so you can see
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| 16:40 | <FrozenZia> ah.
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| 16:51 | <FrozenZia> hmmm... well, not sure what to make of that...
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| 16:51 | <FrozenZia> we've got a kernel panic not syncing, before that a bad variable name...
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| 16:56 | <Gadi> FrozenZia: in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 16:56 | add: nbdroot=<ip_of_ltsp_server>:2000
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| 16:56 | to the end of the line
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| 16:56 | and reboot the client
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| 17:05 | <FrozenZia> Gadi: didn't seem to have any effect.
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| 17:06 | Last thing b4 things start going awry (I think) is along the lines of:
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| 17:08 | eth0 configured at 192.168.0.105:192.168.0.102:192.168.1.1:255.255.254.0:
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| 17:10 | ' /init: export: line 14: [IP ADDR]: bad variable name
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| 17:13 | Oi, but I gotta get some sleep. =o( tx in advance if anyone can help out. This is a situation where I just set up a brand new LTSP server, just hooked it up and it worked, but I hadn't realized it was running a dhcp server, and that was causing problems with our other dhcp server. So I've disabled the dhcp daemon on the ltsp server, but am now having troubles getting the client to boot up.
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| 17:14 | That is to say, I already had the client working at least twice today, before I started trying to get rid of my duplicate dhcp server.
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| 17:14 | g'night!
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| 19:44 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 21:03 | <sbalneav> Quiet in here
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| 21:03 | * sbalneav looks around | |
| 21:04 | <sbalneav> toooooo quiet....
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