IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 May 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:59 | <thomask> i'm trying to copy a home dir to my /etc/skel folder and it's not working... can someone help?
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| 01:00 | also does anyone know if I can install a wine application and make it work for all of my users?
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| 01:02 | anyone here?
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| 01:07 | anyone here?
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| 01:14 | <cyberorg> thomask: put .wine in /etc/skel too
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| 01:14 | it might work, never tried it though
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| 01:15 | <thomask> i can't copy .wine into /etc/skel it won't let me...
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| 01:16 | cp: omitting directory `.wine/'
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| 01:16 | is what i get...
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| 01:16 | cyberorg,
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| 01:16 | <cyberorg> cp -R
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| 01:18 | <thomask> wow it must be late
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| 01:18 | thanks cyberorg
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| 01:19 | <cyberorg> happens all the time
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| 01:42 | <skyion> hey hey
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| 01:42 | ok, hew after the second try at loading lts worked, I can get the login screen... though its not accepting any passwords...
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| 01:43 | if u press ctrl-alt-F1 and try login through the text console its not working there either
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| 02:05 | <jammcq> g'morning
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| 02:06 | <vagrantc> morning!
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| 02:07 | <sbalneav> Morning
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| 02:16 | <anarkae> hello
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| 02:18 | <skyion> heeelllo :D
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| 02:18 | any idea why ltsp wouldnt accept usernames and passwords
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| 02:18 | <vagrantc> skyion: what distro?
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| 02:19 | <skyion> ubuntu
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| 02:19 | default install...
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| 02:19 | <vagrantc> what version?
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| 02:19 | <skyion> 7.04
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| 02:19 | ltsp 5
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| 02:19 | <vagrantc> can you ssh to the machine with the same username and password?
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| 02:19 | <skyion> hmmm
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| 02:19 | will try in 1 sec
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| 02:21 | <ogra> skyion, usual suspects ... your ssh server isnt running, the keys are wrong (run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys), user stuff is wrong /check ~/.xsession-errors of the user you tried)
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| 02:21 | <ogra> it will be either of that
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| 02:23 | <skyion> ok
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| 02:29 | <skyion> ogra: i love you....
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| 02:29 | more than jelly tots
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| 02:29 | <ogra> vagrantc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/113801 looks like a glitch with ltsp-update-kernels ...
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| 02:29 | :)
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| 02:30 | <jammcq> but jelly tots are so good
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| 02:30 | <vagrantc> ogra: it's either hard-coded, or really should be configured with a configuration file
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| 02:31 | <vagrantc> ogra: we should probably generate the configuration file if the commandline options differ from the defaults
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| 02:31 | <ogra> yep
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| 02:32 | its a bug from edgy so it might not be in feisty, even though i dont remember any of us touching it
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| 02:33 | <vagrantc> i'm nearly certain it's still present.
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| 02:34 | <ogra> yup
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| 02:35 | <jammcq> ogra: LTSP-4.2 is using Busybox MOUNT
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| 02:36 | <ogra> aha
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| 02:36 | lets try it with that one then ...
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| 02:36 | <jammcq> how easy/hard is that to do in Ubuntu-ltsp-5 ?
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| 02:36 | <ogra> not to hard if you know how ...
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| 02:36 | <jammcq> k
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| 02:37 | I vote that we meet in Salon/America to give it a try
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| 02:37 | <ogra> sadly i'll be a bit busy today, rich needs a dump of the classmate image on his and i need to backup the system his has n it
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| 02:37 | <vagrantc> i would just install busybox ... and then switch the script to call "busybox mount ..."
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| 02:37 | <ogra> right
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| 02:37 | <vagrantc> jammcq: i can walk you through it
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| 02:37 | <jammcq> 11:00am Salon/America is available
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| 02:38 | <ogra> btw .... getting that 2 gig from the classmate means to nfsmount a dir from my ltsp server and dd'ing the disk to there
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| 02:38 | <vagrantc> heh.
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| 02:38 | <jammcq> well, 100mb takes 42 seconds, so do the math :)
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| 02:46 | <ogra> hmm, probably using my usb harddisk is cleverer :)
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| 02:51 | <vagrantc> we're late
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| 03:08 | <vagrantc> jammcq: you're not taking another micro-nap, are you? :P
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| 03:08 | <jammcq> nope, sitting here with jonathon
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| 03:08 | are we meeting or something?
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| 03:09 | <vagrantc> jammcq: well, ldm-load-balancing needs some care
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| 03:09 | <vagrantc> scotty says "no spec is complete unless it has it's own theme song"
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| 03:10 | <jammcq> hmm, I suggest the theme from Sanford and Son
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| 03:27 | <vagrantc> SLoB
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| 03:57 | <highvoltage> hey ltsp'ers
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| 03:58 | I did a standard LTSP install, and I get an error on the thin client "NFS over TCP not available from 192.168.0.254" on the client, and it retries over and over and over
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| 04:00 | <vagrantc> highvoltage: bummer.
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| 04:02 | highvoltage: copy /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/nfs to /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/nfs and add some "set -x" in the do_nfsmount function
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| 04:05 | <highvoltage> vagrantc: I should do that in my chroot, right?
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| 04:05 | <vagrantc> highvoltage: yeah, sorry
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| 04:15 | <Nielsen|Work> im trying to get ltspfs working for our system, however, /tmp/.ltspfs-socket is missing. any idea whyit's not there?
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| 04:15 | <vagrantc> Nielsen|Work: linux distro and ltsp version?
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| 04:19 | <Nielsen|Work> the ltsp client and server are both running ubuntu 6.10
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| 04:19 | how can i tell which ltsp version is installed?
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| 04:19 | <vagrantc> dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l ltsp-client
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| 04:20 | and, while you're at it ...
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| 04:20 | dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l ltsp-client ltspfsd
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| 04:20 | dpkg -l ltsp-server ltspfs
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| 04:20 | <Nielsen|Work> ltspfsd 0.4.3-0ubuntu4
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| 04:21 | <vagrantc> Nielsen|Work: can you paste /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf to the pastebot ?
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| 04:21 | !pastebot
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| 04:21 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 04:22 | <ltsppbot> "Nielsen|Work" pasted "/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/128
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| 04:24 | <vagrantc> Nielsen|Work: use "True" instead of "Y"
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| 04:25 | <ltsppbot> "Nielsen|Work" pasted "/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/129
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| 04:25 | <Nielsen|Work> liek that?
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| 04:29 | * Nielsen|Work tests | |
| 04:33 | <Nielsen|Work> still no /tmp/.ltspfs-socket
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| 04:33 | what program is supposed to create it?
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| 04:41 | <sbalneav> Nielsen|Work: Are you using LDM or XDMCP for communicating to the server?
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| 04:44 | <Nielsen|Work> ldm
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| 04:45 | find /opt/ltsp/i386 | grep -i XDMCP returns only some so's
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| 04:45 | <sbalneav> Well, LDM should be creating the socket
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| 04:45 | <Nielsen|Work> could it be my boss compiled it wrong?
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| 04:46 | <sbalneav> Compiled?
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| 04:46 | Should have just installed it with apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone,
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| 04:47 | <Nielsen|Work> yeh, true...
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| 04:47 | i hate getting handed projects like this
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| 04:47 | <sbalneav> then created the chroot with ltsp-build-client
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| 04:47 | <Nielsen|Work> boss: "i cant get it working, you fix it"
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| 04:48 | <sbalneav> LTSP under Ubuntu's pretty autoconfigureing, why not try "mv lts.conf lts.conf.old", and see if it boots just using the defaults?
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| 04:49 | <Nielsen|Work> you mean /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf ?
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| 04:52 | <sbalneav> Yep
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| 04:53 | <Nielsen|Work> no luck... still no file in /tmp
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| 04:54 | ldm isn't running ither
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| 04:54 | err either
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| 04:57 | add_fstab_entry runs just fine, but the ssh in it fails since the file is missing
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| 05:03 | <anarkae> hello
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| 05:08 | <sbalneav> If ldm isn't running, you can't get logged into the server.
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| 05:08 | Something odd is going on, thats for sure.
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| 05:14 | <Nielsen|Work> well it comes up asking what server to log on to, i pick the new one and then get the login prompt, doing a ps ax in tty1 durning each step.
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| 05:14 | no ldm running
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| 05:16 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 05:17 | have you got an /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/version file?
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| 05:17 | <Nielsen|Work> no
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| 05:18 | <sbalneav> have you got an /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/issue file?
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| 05:20 | <Nielsen|Work> yes, issue "Ubuntu 6.10 \n \" and issue.net: "Ubuntu 6.10"
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| 05:20 | <sbalneav> ok, on the thin client, can you do a control-alt-f1?
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| 05:20 | <Nielsen|Work> done
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| 05:20 | logged in as root now
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| 05:21 | <sbalneav> So, you set a root passwd in the chroot?
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| 05:21 | <Nielsen|Work> yeah
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| 05:21 | <sbalneav> look at the /etc/issue on the thin client
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| 05:21 | <Nielsen|Work> Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l
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| 05:22 | <sbalneav> and you have no ldm running on that thin client?
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| 05:22 | <Nielsen|Work> ps ax|grep ldm returns only grep itself
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| 05:23 | <vagrantc> dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 ldm
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| 05:23 | on the server
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| 05:23 | <Nielsen|Work> dpkg: need an action option
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| 05:23 | <vagrantc> dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l ldm
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| 05:23 | sorry
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| 05:24 | <Nielsen|Work> un ldm <none> (no description available)
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| 05:24 | so thats bad, i guess
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| 05:24 | <vagrantc> sounds like you have either an incomplete install, or a very customized install.
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| 05:25 | <Nielsen|Work> i agree... lets leave it at that and i can tell my boss he's an "incomplete"
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| 05:26 | <sbalneav> If it were me, I'd mv /opt/ltsp to /opt/ltsp.orig, and re-do the ltsp-build-client
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| 05:26 | <Nielsen|Work> yeah i'll get that done this afternoon when boss gets in
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| 05:27 | gotta get approval
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| 05:27 | * Nielsen|Work grins | |
| 05:27 | <Nielsen|Work> "you fucked up, can i fix it?
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| 05:27 | "
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| 05:28 | well, thanks for your time :)
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| 05:33 | <sbalneav> Good way to win points with your boss.
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| 05:33 | Good luck with it.
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| 05:33 | <vagrantc> Nielsen|Work: maybe you can do the fixing pre-emptively :)
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| 05:34 | Nielsen|Work: i.e. generate a new chroot
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| 05:36 | <Nielsen|Work> nah, i dont want to look too enthusiastic
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| 05:37 | he might mistake me for someone who enjoys fixing his mistakes
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| 05:51 | <cliebow> Nielsen|Work :Ohh go for it..show how much initiative you have !!
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| 05:53 | <Nielsen|Work> initiative = smoke break - ttyl ;)
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| 05:53 | <cliebow> or just swap it back and forth when he is not looking
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| 05:53 | <Nielsen|Work> lol
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| 05:53 | <cliebow> ill join you
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| 06:49 | <SLEducator> Hello All
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| 07:02 | <SLEducator> sbalneav: hi Scott , have you seen the new instruction for LTSP5 on openSUSE I posted last night?
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| 07:03 | <sbalneav> SLEducator: Yes, I took a look at it.
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| 07:03 | When I get back from Spain, I'll see about grabbing an opensuse cd, and see if I can get it working.
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| 07:03 | <SLEducator> you are a gentleman ;)
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| 07:04 | anybody else i should ask?
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| 07:11 | <sbalneav> Hmm, well, I know when jammcq gets back to America, he's gonna be pretty swamped with work.
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| 07:11 | <cliebow_> sbalneav, jammcq still fighting his wireless connection?
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| 07:11 | <sbalneav> cliebow_: you feel like testing SuSE?
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| 07:11 | <cliebow_> oh i could do that..what do you ned/
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| 07:11 | /ned/need/g
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| 07:12 | suse what..like 11?
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| 07:15 | <sbalneav> cliebow_: SLEducator has been invol ved in getting LTSP5 ported to SuSE
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| 07:15 | he posted a link to ltsp-discuss
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| 07:15 | <cliebow_> what should i d/l
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| 07:15 | ?
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| 07:15 | ill look
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| 07:16 | <sbalneav> OpenSuSE, one imagines, to start :)
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| 07:16 | My bandwidth doesn't permit that here, so I'll have to wait 'till next week when I'm back.
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| 07:17 | <cliebow_> ill see what is up on #opensuse-kiwi
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| 07:20 | <mhterres> morning
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| 07:20 | <cliebow_> hmm..ppc...
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| 07:25 | <plameng1> Hi, all :) I'm trying to run Local Apps, following ogra's instructions... installed nfs-common in the chroot and change the default fstab in the ltsp-client-setup initscript to mount /home from the server ... OK
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| 07:25 | install openssh-server in the chroot and make sure every user has a valid key in /home and an authorized_keys file OK
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| 07:25 | logged as root without a password OK
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| 07:26 | write a script that executes your local app and attacheds it to DISPLAY=:6 on the client - I have problems with this
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| 07:26 | can you help?
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| 07:26 | <vagrantc> plameng1: what problems do you have?
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| 07:26 | <plameng1> I trued this: ssh $USER@client <localapp> but no success
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| 07:27 | <vagrantc> no errors or messages of any kind?
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| 07:27 | <plameng1> ssh root@77.70.24.202 aumix
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| 07:27 | Error opening terminal: unknown.
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| 07:27 | For example
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| 07:28 | ssh root@77.70.24.202 gaim
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| 07:28 | (gaim:2497): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_get_name: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
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| 07:28 | ** (gaim:2497): WARNING **: cannot open display: unset
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| 07:28 | Gaim 2.0.0beta5
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| 07:28 | another
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| 07:29 | <vagrantc> plameng1: how did you set DISPLAY ?
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| 07:30 | <plameng1> I'm not sure about this: change the default fstab in the ltsp-client-setup initscript to mount /home
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| 07:30 | plameng1: how did you set DISPLAY ? I don't now exactly this
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| 07:31 | <ltsppbot> "plamengr" pasted "/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client setup" (7 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/130
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| 07:41 | <vagrantc> plameng1: you need to set it when you run the script
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| 07:43 | <plameng1> I also looked at this: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/pub/Ltsp/LocalApps/runremote, but I'm not sure what will be useful there
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| 07:43 | this: ssh root@77.70.24.202 /bin/sh -c \"DISPLAY=:6 $@\" aumix, returns no error
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| 07:44 | but there's nothing on Display6 :(
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| 07:49 | <vagrantc> you need to set XAUTHORITY=/path/to/.Xauthority, too
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| 07:49 | which currently is a randomized filename
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| 07:49 | <plameng1> okay
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| 07:53 | <plameng1> ssh root@77.70.24.202 /bin/sh -c \"DISPLAY=:6 $@\" \"XAUTHORITY=/root/.Xauthority $@\" aumix
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| 07:53 | returns no error, but still no result
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| 07:56 | <vagrantc> i'm almost certain that's not the right .Xauthority file
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| 07:57 | you have /home mounted for the user ?
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| 07:58 | <plameng1> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/130
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| 07:58 | sashka:~# cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/fstab
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| 07:58 | # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
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| 07:58 | maybe not
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| 07:59 | <vagrantc> it
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| 07:59 | s actually not your problem yet
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| 08:01 | <plameng1> I haven't set up LDAP or NIS, but can Locall Apps run with a password, just for the test, without LDAP or NIS?
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| 08:02 | <vagrantc> you could set a password in the chroot
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| 08:04 | <plameng1> yes, I did. But, am I right, LDAP connects the user in the chroot with the user in the server? or maybe I misunderstood
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| 08:05 | <vagrantc> well, you can use LDAP to authenticate and get login information
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| 08:06 | <plameng1> okay, 10x much for the help :)
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| 08:12 | <Nielsen|Work> sbalneav: looks like the boss took the day off, and since it's friday, i have desire to fiddle with it any more :) you have a great weekend, and i'll come back and pry at your wisdom next week
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| 08:13 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 08:13 | <fxrsliberty> sbalneav: it's SLEducator in my street cloths ;) . does ltsp's boot kernel do hdetect work in memory or rw mount?
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| 08:13 | <sbalneav> hardware detect, you mean?
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| 08:13 | right now, it's using udev
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| 08:14 | <fxrsliberty> sbalneav: the reason I ask is that I can;t connect my LTSP150's
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| 08:14 | <sbalneav> so, that's mostly memory :)
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| 08:14 | <fxrsliberty> yes udev I ment
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| 08:14 | <sbalneav> which, to kiwi?
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| 08:14 | <fxrsliberty> yes
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| 08:14 | <sbalneav> hm
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| 08:15 | <fxrsliberty> seems our netboot kernel doesn't do well with some hardware, my IBM r51 laptop boot like a champ
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| 08:15 | <sbalneav> In the current model, udev actually gets started in the initramfs, in order to find the network module to load for plumbing the nfs mount.
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| 08:15 | <fxrsliberty> it's after that I have troulbe
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| 08:16 | pardon my n00bness, not in anyway a coder
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| 08:16 | <sbalneav> I only pretend to be one on TV. :)
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| 08:17 | <fxrsliberty> LOL then your script writers are genius
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| 08:17 | <sbalneav> maybe you don't have one of the drivers the 150 needs in the initramfs?
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| 08:17 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: so ltspfs is merely a science-fiction?
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| 08:17 | <fxrsliberty> science-fiction-drama!
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| 08:17 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: yes, don't look to carefully at the man behind the curtain.
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| 08:18 | <vagrantc> as long as you have fire, we're set.
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| 08:18 | <fxrsliberty> is the initramfs something I can pastebin?
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| 08:19 | <sbalneav> heh, no, it's the bit of kernel that gets downloaded that helps it boot up
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| 08:19 | it'll be a few megs
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| 08:19 | <fxrsliberty> can you point me at an example inclusion list of yours?
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| 08:19 | <sbalneav> hmm, vagrant?
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| 08:20 | brb
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| 08:20 | <fxrsliberty> ok
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| 08:21 | <cliebow_> mistik1:i concur...xubuntu-desktop is pretty sexy..
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| 08:22 | <anarkae> Hello. I bought two LTSP Term 1220 PXE Thin Client. My server is a
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| 08:22 | Debian Lenny with ltsp5 (chroot in etch).
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| 08:22 | I try to make function the graphics board of the thin client in "via" CN700 ,
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| 08:22 | but I do not arrive there. For the moment the thin client functions in vesa. Diskless.com indicate a modus operandi for ltsp4.2 but
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| 08:22 | not for ltsp5. http://www.disklessworkstations.com/web/documentation/LTSP_T-1220.pdf
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| 08:23 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: inclusion list?
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| 08:23 | <anarkae> | |
| 08:23 | I do not know how to make
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| 08:23 | <fxrsliberty> hardware to be supported by the initramfs
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| 08:23 | my ltsp150'
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| 08:24 | s won't connect while other things do
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| 08:24 | or our udev is having issues
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| 08:24 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: does it produce any error messages?
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| 08:25 | <fxrsliberty> not that i can tell it just stalls after time: tsc clocksource has been installed
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| 08:25 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: so, what distro, what version of ltsp, etc.
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| 08:25 | ?
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| 08:25 | <fxrsliberty> p.s. love the LTSP line of hardware
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| 08:26 | opensuse 10.2 with ltsp 5 pre alpa integration
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| 08:26 | <vagrantc> ah
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| 08:27 | fxrsliberty: so, just to clarify ... you can boot some machines but not this particular machine?
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| 08:28 | <fxrsliberty> correct, my IBM r51 laptop is on , also an IBM 2292-22u netvista
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| 08:29 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: so ... how far does it get?
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| 08:29 | i.e. does the initramfs mount the NFS filesystem?
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| 08:29 | <fxrsliberty> i am repurposing some IBM 6649-nau netvista's that fail as well with trouble configuring the intel 815e graphics
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| 08:29 | yes nfs mounted
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| 08:29 | <fxrsliberty> on the netvista not the ltsp150
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| 08:30 | <vagrantc> so the netvistas are working fine. ok. what about the ltsp150 that isn't? where does it get?
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| 08:31 | <fxrsliberty> it just stalls after time: tsc clocksource has been installed
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| 08:31 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: do you see anything before that? or the second you turn it on?
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| 08:32 | <fxrsliberty> yes all kinds of stuff.. it downloads the kernel and begins the init process
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| 08:34 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: init from initramfs, or from NFS ?
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| 08:34 | <fxrsliberty> it checks the initrd for initramfs compatibilty
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| 08:34 | <anarkae> | |
| 08:34 | nobody knows how to activate “via” with the LTSP Term 1220 in ltsp 5 on debian ?
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| 08:35 | <fxrsliberty> before it even thinks about nfs
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| 08:36 | <vagrantc> anarkae: set XSERVER=via in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 08:36 | <ogra> that wont work
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| 08:36 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: so ... does the initramfs work, or not?
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| 08:37 | <anarkae> | |
| 08:37 | Ca does not go, it charges all the same vesa in the place of via
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| 08:37 | <ogra> it needs the openchrome driver fro which no debian package exists
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| 08:37 | *for
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| 08:37 | <vagrantc> anarkae: ah well. you're stuck with vesa.
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| 08:37 | <fxrsliberty> in the middle of loading hardware the initramfs stalls after it says "time:tsc clocksource has been installed
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| 08:38 | <anarkae> ogra : I have a solution?
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| 08:38 | Diskless.com indicate a modus operandi for ltsp4.2 but
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| 08:38 | <anarkae> not for ltsp5
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| 08:39 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: no idea.
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| 08:39 | <anarkae> http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/downloads/downloads.html
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| 08:40 | <fxrsliberty> what rw resources need to be available to the initramfs or the udev process?
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| 08:40 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: i'd try to increate the verbosity of your initramfs so you know exacly where it breaks
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| 08:41 | <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
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| 08:41 | <ogra> its a lot of work ... but shuld work the same on debian
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| 08:41 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: all an initramfs is is an cpio that gets unpackaged into a ram-based filesystem, so you should have write to whatever you need.
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| 08:41 | <anarkae> ogra : I was reading it
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| 08:43 | <fxrsliberty> no problem and did i say THANK YOU yet...if not THANK YOU ;)
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| 08:43 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: though your cpio might need to contain a directory structure or something
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| 08:43 | fxrsliberty: it entirely depends on how your scripts work.
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| 08:44 | <fxrsliberty> asking kiwi dev to do what you suggested about verbosity
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| 08:45 | <vagrantc> we should really try to make initramfs-tools distro independent
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| 08:46 | <fxrsliberty> this is how we config the whole system http://pastebin.ca/482908
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| 08:50 | from there we are using mostly your scripts
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| 08:55 | <cliebow_> any link to the video conference jim did with oliver..mark..jono??
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| 08:55 | <ogra> unfortunately not
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| 09:07 | <fxrsliberty> do any of the devs have an ltsp 150 and time to the opensuse ltsp5 integration packages?
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| 09:07 | time to install
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| 09:11 | <federicoco> hello guy ....i have installed ltsp5 but don't find rdesktop... any idea?
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| 09:12 | <cliebow_> rdesktop "should" be installed on server huh..
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| 09:13 | <federicoco> yes
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| 09:14 | <cliebow_> sudo apt-get install rdesktop should tell you..
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| 09:16 | <cyberorg> hi cliebow thanks for dropping by in kiwi channel and offering to help, that was very generous of you :)
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| 09:16 | <fxrsliberty> vagrantc: does any of this incude things that need looking after?
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| 09:16 | http://pastebin.ca/482947
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| 09:16 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hi all
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| 09:16 | <cliebow_> cyberorg, not much i can do at this point..since not the least bit familiar with suse
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| 09:17 | <cyberorg> you are download it right?
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| 09:17 | <federicoco> so...in main root i find and execute rdesktop, in the client, chroot is set /opt/ltsp/i386...
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| 09:17 | i have chancge chroot and dowloaded rdesktop
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| 09:18 | well, in the lts.conf i have put screen_01 = redesktop....... but don't work
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| 09:24 | <federicoco> any idea?
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| 09:24 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> redesktop? rdesktop
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| 09:24 | <federicoco> yes yes sorry rdesktop
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| 09:24 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> :P
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| 09:26 | <fxrsliberty> vagrantc: could you send me a copy of your boot initrd....gz?
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| 09:27 | sbalneav: could you spend a couple of minutes in #opensuse-kiwi to help with hardware diagnosis?
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| 10:17 | <fxrsliberty> vagrantc: could you send me a copy of your boot initrd....gz?
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| 10:17 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: you could grab one out of the tarballs
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| 10:17 | !tarball
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| 10:17 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 10:18 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: why do you want a copy of an entirely different initramfs system?
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| 10:19 | <fxrsliberty> I was hoping to dig into it and read your drivers list?
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| 10:20 | <vagrantc> why not grab the source code for initramfs-tools instead?
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| 10:21 | <sutula> vagrantc: for the ltsp-server package, where does the client's kernel come from? Is it the stock Debian kernel?
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| 10:21 | <fxrsliberty> this is how we tell kiwi to build our boot files are there missing drivers? http://pastebin.ca/483040
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| 10:21 | <vagrantc> sutula: yes
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| 10:21 | <sutula> vagrantc: tnk
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| 10:23 | <fxrsliberty> vagrantc: this is how we tell kiwi to build our boot files are there missing drivers? http://pastebin.ca/483040
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| 10:24 | <vagrantc> fxrsliberty: having no idea how it works, it looks like you pul lin drivers/net/* ... that should be everything.
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| 10:24 | and als fs/nfs/*
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| 10:26 | <fxrsliberty> vagrantc: als ?
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| 10:26 | <vagrantc> sorry, "also"
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| 10:26 | <fxrsliberty> ok
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| 10:27 | <cliebow_> alas?
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| 11:18 | <Q-FUNK> http://www.artecgroup.com/thincan/
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| 11:55 | <sutula> Q-FUNK: prices?
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| 11:56 | <Q-FUNK> sutula: send a request. i'll read it on Monday :)
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| 11:57 | * sutula wasn't that interested...just curious | |
| 11:57 | <Q-FUNK> :)
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| 12:42 | <Guaraldo> !pastebot
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| 12:42 | <ltspbot> Guaraldo: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 14:14 | <skipper> Hi everyone
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| 14:16 | <Linf> hey
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| 14:16 | <Mineque> hi
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| 14:17 | <skipper> I asked for help yesterday but I think I figured it out
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| 14:17 | <Linf> ok, so it's my time :)
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| 14:18 | everyone who run this ltsp have to have devfs running?
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| 14:18 | it seems that the newer kernels don't have devfs anymore....
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| 14:18 | <skipper> The computer I am using as a server is just too small. It has a 1.2 GHz Pentium IV and 2 GB ram
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| 14:18 | <Linf> it's the slowest computer to ever had 2gb o' ram...
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| 14:19 | <skipper> Tell me about it
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| 14:19 | I'll just have to invest a real server, anybosy have some ideas?
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| 14:20 | <Linf> what's your problem with ltsp? does it run ok?
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| 14:20 | <skipper> It runs but then Thin Client Manager hangs up after I connect 12 terminal clients
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| 14:21 | I tested it today and as I added more clients the TSM ran slower and slower
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| 14:21 | <Linf> yeah, it definitly looks like you need more processing power
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| 14:21 | <skipper> oops I meant the TCM
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| 14:21 | <Linf> you can surely buy a pentium iv on ebay which would ran somewhat faster
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| 14:21 | <skipper> Also I have ide drives and not sata
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| 14:22 | <Linf> or switch the whole computer to a core2duo or something more like it
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| 14:22 | <skipper> I think
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| 14:22 | I think I proves that 7.04 edubuntu is the way to go to get away from my old Windows ME
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| 14:25 | <Linf> yeah, but you can't expect a p4 to run more then 10 stations... perhaps if you use windowmaker or some lighter window manager then it'll do
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| 14:26 | <Mineque> skipper: try to use fluxbox, nice wm
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| 14:27 | <skipper> I can limp along this way until I can scape enough $ up to get something that will work. Thanks for the help all
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| 14:27 | <Linf> can anyone answer me if the ltsp-4.2 or something newer still depends on devfs ro run?
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| 15:12 | <fxrsliberty> does anyone know if cirrux processor support is enabled by default in todays kernel?
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| 16:22 | <fxrsliberty> moguist: do you know why the vmlinuz needs to invoke a temporary fs?
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| 17:10 | <Sunborne> Hi there folks. first-time irc'er here. also a first-time ltsp'er.
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| 17:11 | i have kubuntu 7.04 and ltsp 5.0 (muekow) and it all seems to work OK except for one little thing -
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| 17:12 | I have KDE set up to auto-login a user (ltspguest) after 5 seconds. It works on the console just fine, but when a thin client boots they get the yellow Ubuntu login page instead of the KDE one and they have to enter a password.
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| 17:13 | once they enter a password everything's ok... the kiosk admin profiles work beautifully and everything.
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| 17:14 | At one point I did a sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 aptitude install kdm but that seemed kinda ugly, and in my Google travels someone said not to do it that way.
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| 17:17 | Is there a really good tutorial on setting up MueKow with KDE? Or maybe I'll write one if I ever figure it out. ;)
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| 18:23 | <irule> hi I got 2 nics and I can ping to one of them but the other one does not respond, but when I put on the cable the screen does say link up, and if I disconnect I see the link down message, how may this be fiexed? thanks, PLUS! if I connect the cable to the eth0 I can ping and get a response from both eth0 and eth1, but if I put the cable on eth1, I get network unreachable from both eth0 and eth1
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| 18:33 | <cliebow> Sunborne, ont he terminal yu must be getting ldm which is a front for ssh login..independent of kde.
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| 18:33 | you "could" sacrtifice scurity by using xdmcp instead of ldm
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| 18:34 | for a login screen.
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| 18:34 | dont chroot and install kdm though..
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| 18:35 | <Sunborne> Thanks cliebow.
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| 18:36 | Where does xdmcp get configured?
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| 18:38 | <cliebow> you cann use gdmconfiig to enable remote llogins
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| 18:38 | and
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| 18:39 | use screen_07=startx in an lts.conf..prob of your own making
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| 18:39 | [default]
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| 18:39 | scren_07=startx
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| 18:39 | <cy_coe> my client says :"NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out" after booting the kernel and running /scripts/nfs-top. where the hell is the problem?
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| 18:39 | <cliebow> add an e there
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| 18:39 | what card?
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| 18:40 | and what distro..and what ltsp?
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| 18:40 | <cy_coe> upps, just a moment
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| 18:40 | <cliebow> sounds like jkernel-2.6.17.
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| 18:43 | <cy_coe> Edubuntu 6.06.1, ltsp 4.1, NIC: rtl8xxx (NE2000PCI?)
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| 18:43 | kernel is 2.6.15 but other kernels show the same problem
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| 18:43 | booting with floppy!
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| 18:44 | <cliebow> floppy is fine
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| 18:44 | ltsp4.2 rocks
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| 18:45 | <cy_coe> working for a week to get this tlsp running, but it drives me crazy. Perhaps a wrong bootfloppy?
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| 18:45 | <cliebow> must be a realtek 8029..i can t remember haaving trouble wit those..
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| 18:47 | yuo boot from floppy..get a bunch of dots,,the kernal and intrd load..then you get this error at second dhcp?
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| 18:47 | <cy_coe> yes, correct
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| 18:48 | <cliebow> i hate to suggest this..but i think you should move to ltsp4.2 with 2.6.16.1.kernel
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| 18:49 | <cy_coe> I`ve already tried ltsp5 which comes with edubuntu7.04.... same Problem :(
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| 18:51 | there is no 4.2 for edubuntu/ubuntu I think. So I have to compile myself, right?
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| 18:51 | <cliebow> 4.2 is distro agnostic
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| 18:52 | it will take some doing to see where you are..
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| 18:53 | lessee ..dhcp is working ok so you get your kernel ok..tftp is also good..
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| 18:53 | <cy_coe> right
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| 18:54 | <cliebow> cana you grep filenamae /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 18:55 | <cy_coe> My English isn`t best... What you mean?
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| 18:56 | <cliebow> can you pastee your dhcpd.conf at pastebot.ltsp.org
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| 19:01 | <ltsppbot> "cy_coe" pasted "authoritative; option subnet-m" (38 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/131
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| 19:02 | <Mineque> cliebow: one question... have you any idea why dhcpd after restarting server sometimes get up, but most of not?
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| 19:02 | and i have to run it manualy
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| 19:02 | <cliebow> must be the interface is noy up when dhcp tried to start
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| 19:03 | <Mineque> but when i starting it 5sec after boot process it starting without any problem
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| 19:03 | hmm
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| 19:03 | <cliebow> cy_coe, your dhcpd.conf is set up for ltsp5..but your chroot it sounds like is ltsp4.1 which certainly wont work..
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| 19:04 | <cy_coe> hmmm
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| 19:04 | <cliebow> can you cd /var/lib.tftpboot
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| 19:05 | s orty
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| 19:06 | can you cd /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 19:06 | <cy_coe> cd /var/lib/tftpboot/ works
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| 19:07 | <cliebow> you ZDo have only one dhcp server on that network..
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| 19:08 | <cy_coe> right
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| 19:08 | <Mineque> cliebow: who are You asking? :P
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| 19:08 | <cliebow> i am asking cy_coe
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| 19:09 | <Mineque> ok :)
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| 19:10 | <cy_coe> the server has 2 NICs and dhcp is configured for eth1 (192.168.0.1)
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| 19:11 | oh. by the way, the NICs are similar. Might that cause problems?
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| 19:12 | no, when I think about it I don`t think so....
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| 19:13 | <Mineque> goodbye...
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| 19:17 | <cy_coe> if I had the wrong bootimage the kernel wouldn`t even download, right?
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| 19:18 | <cliebow> cy_coe, i am not sure how to help you..there is such a mix..
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| 19:20 | <cy_coe> hmmm. Do you recommend me ltsp5, or shoud I really try out 4.2?
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| 19:21 | I`ve setup the server over and over again, once more doesn`t matter :(
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| 19:22 | <cliebow> jeez: i just dont know what to tell you..the brains are all in Spain..and asleep
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| 19:22 | <cy_coe> okay, thanks anyway.
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| 19:23 | <cliebow> ill look for you tomorrow..as i can..
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| 19:23 | <cy_coe> ok
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