IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 25 June 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:10 | <andygraybeal> mornining :)
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| 05:13 | <alkisg> afternoon :)
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| 05:28 | <andygraybeal> ;)
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| 08:32 | <Gnoze5> alkisg, o/
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| 08:32 | <alkisg> o/
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| 08:36 | <Gnoze5> our quest for ie6 to work with java has been a long one lol
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| 13:59 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: did you say that you can host a supybot? I think Scotty has a lot to do currently and doesn't have the time to get the old bot back...
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| 14:37 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg: by host I mean provide SSH for someone to set one up. :-)
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| 14:37 | I have no idea about IRC bots really, but have lots of servers available which I could give someone shell access to to run one.
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| 14:40 | I figured someone should still have all the stuff needed for ltspbot, I could just move it onto a shell somewhere and help out
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| 14:44 | <Gnoze5> ltspbot?
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| 14:44 | Hyperbyte, theres an ltspbot?
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| 14:45 | <Hyperbyte> There was. =)
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| 14:45 | <Gnoze5> ah
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| 14:45 | what exactly did it do?
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| 14:45 | <Hyperbyte> Lots of stuff. Mostly note-taking I think. ;-)
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| 14:46 | <Gnoze5> oh like the ltsp channel bot you mean?
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| 15:14 | <Hyperbyte> Yessir.
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| 15:14 | What else were you thinking of? =)
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| 15:16 | <Gnoze5> some sort of bot for managing ltsp lol
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| 15:31 | <Hyperbyte> Heheh
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| 19:06 | <TheMatrix3000> ok, i am having serious issues
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| 19:06 | when a client boots to my ltsp server it doesn't load the normal template and i cant click anything
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| 19:06 | i can log in, but after that it wont let me click any menus
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| 19:07 | it basically locks the client
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| 20:27 | <Gnoze5> TheMatrix3000
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| 20:28 | still having the same issue?
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| 20:30 | <TheMatrix3000> yes
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| 20:30 | but i think i figured it out
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| 20:30 | it's a permissions issue with the nfs /home mount from teh freenas server
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| 20:30 | I don't think I can use freenas for this implementation
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| 20:30 | because of how secure freenas is
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| 20:31 | <Gnoze5> zfs + bsd?
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| 20:32 | <TheMatrix3000> yea
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| 20:32 | lol
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| 20:32 | i mounted the directory
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| 20:32 | and it would mount, its just each folder got the wrong user permissions
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| 20:32 | and changing it did nothing
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| 20:38 | <Gnoze5> btw what did you install FreeNAS on?
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| 20:44 | <TheMatrix3000> 4x500GB server
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| 20:44 | running raidz2
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| 20:44 | on zfs
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| 20:53 | Gnoze5: you have any ideas to get it to work, or should I just reformat and install Ubuntu on that sytsem
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| 20:55 | <Gnoze5> indeed im not master of any of the implications
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| 20:55 | but im pretty sure that you can use FreeNAS
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| 20:55 | i see no reason why you wouldnt be able to
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| 20:56 | <Gnoze5> alkisg good morning my friend
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| 20:56 | <alkisg> Good morning :)
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| 20:56 | <Gnoze5> TheMatrix3000 is trying to use FreeNAS with ltsp
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| 20:59 | TheMatrix3000 at the end of the day its just storage
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| 20:59 | <alkisg> Connecting the LTSP server to a freenas server shouldn't be LTSP related... right?
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| 21:00 | <TheMatrix3000> well, its the ltsp users
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| 21:00 | not getting the right permissions
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| 21:00 | should they be mounted cilentside or server side /home
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| 21:00 | <alkisg> If you logon to the server directly with a user, does he get the correct permissions?
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| 21:01 | <TheMatrix3000> yes, the server has it, but the mount isn't getting it
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| 21:01 | it's part ltsp part server part freenas related
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| 21:01 | lol
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| 21:01 | i might as well say screw the freenas
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| 21:01 | <alkisg> So you're saying that the same user, if he logs in the LTSP server, everything works, but if he logs in on a client, it doesn't? That doesn't sound right...
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| 21:02 | As thin client sessions *are* on the server
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| 21:03 | <TheMatrix3000> well, i can log into the server via ssh
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| 21:03 | <alkisg> That's not what I'm asking though
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| 21:03 | <TheMatrix3000> but when i log in via thin client it freezes
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| 21:03 | <alkisg> I'm asking, "what happens if you normally login on the server with a user". GDM and everything.
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| 21:03 | <TheMatrix3000> it freezes
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| 21:04 | but when i log into ssh it doesn't
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| 21:04 | <alkisg> Right. So it's completely unrelated to LTSP
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| 21:04 | <TheMatrix3000> ah ok
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| 21:04 | <alkisg> Try asking in #freenas - you don't even have to mention you're using LTSP at all, it doesn't interfere with anything
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| 21:04 | <TheMatrix3000> oh ok
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| 21:05 | <alkisg> You just have an ubuntu machine trying to connect to a freenas server. Do mention if you're using LDAP though.
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| 21:06 | <TheMatrix3000> k
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| 21:11 | <alkisg> Ah, and a good step forward would be to make it work without LDAP first (e.g. from another, standalone ubuntu installation)
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| 21:11 | Because if you can make that work, then it's an LDAP problem
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| 21:11 | <TheMatrix3000> i think its a /home freenas mount issue cause it worked until i mounted home
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| 21:11 | <alkisg> While if you can't, then it's a freenas problem
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| 21:12 | <TheMatrix3000> so i will try and find a solution there, if not tomorrow its getting rid of freenas and using ubuntu
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| 21:12 | cause with ubuntu i can just simply mount it
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| 21:12 | <alkisg> And when you login with ssh on the server, you can access /home/username normally?
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| 21:13 | Or that hangs too?
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| 21:13 | <TheMatrix3000> yea that works
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| 21:13 | but i cant write or edit the /home directories
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| 21:13 | and they all have nobody nogroup
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| 21:13 | as the permissions instead of each user
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| 21:14 | for each folder
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| 21:14 | cause /home/bob should have bob
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| 21:14 | bob:bob
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| 21:14 | but it doesn't
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| 21:14 | <alkisg> Clearly a misconfiguration then. Try first without LDAP.
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| 21:15 | <TheMatrix3000> has teh same issue
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| 21:15 | im sure its freenas
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| 21:15 | and i am sure no one has done it for a reason
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| 21:15 | i can't find anyone online doing what I am trying to do
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| 21:15 | they just use the ubuntu nfs
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| 21:15 | which is what I will probably do
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| 21:16 | <alkisg> You're saying that noone has used freenas for an NFS server?
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| 21:16 | For /home?
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| 21:17 | <TheMatrix3000> i cannot find anything on google mentioning it
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| 21:17 | most is samba/active directory related
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| 21:18 | <alkisg> If people at #freenas say that they don't support NFS /home, then sure, get rid of it. If they say they do support it, check your configuration without LDAP first.
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| 21:18 | <TheMatrix3000> they haven't said anything
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| 21:19 | and i can get it to work with ldap
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| 21:19 | but i have to create a nfs share for each user
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| 21:19 | lol
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| 21:19 | <alkisg> Hehe - also try the mailing list etc
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| 21:19 | <TheMatrix3000> f that
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| 21:19 | i think ubuntu is easier
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| 21:22 | <alkisg> Btw and just out of curiosity, why would someone use a separate NFS server for LTSP, instead of e.g. putting a hardware or software raid in the LTSP server itself, which would be many times faster? I'm just asking, I don't have experience with large sites...
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| 21:36 | <Gnoze5> fiber optics is fast enough
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| 21:36 | :P
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| 21:37 | <TheMatrix3000> well
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| 21:37 | our ltsp server itself only has 175gb storage
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| 21:37 | its a 15k sas system
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| 21:37 | with raid 1
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| 21:37 | we don't have the money to buy mroe drives
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| 21:38 | and the server is connected gigabit, and so are the nfs servers
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| 21:38 | <alkisg> But still the direct hard disk access is very faster than networked gigabit access, right?
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| 21:39 | And you could e.g. take out the disks from the nas server and put them on your ltsp server, without wastng any money?
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| 21:40 | <TheMatrix3000_> sorry internet
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| 21:41 | <Gnoze5> alkisg in big implementations the advantages of external storages are more evident
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| 21:41 | <alkisg> | |
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| 21:41 | <Gnoze5> redundancy
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| 21:41 | centralization
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| 21:41 | ease of administration
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| 21:41 | <TheMatrix3000_> no i cant
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| 21:41 | <alkisg> Also, if only the LTSP server access the external server, why not use NBD rw and avoid all the NFS overhead and complexity?
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| 21:41 | <TheMatrix3000_> alkisg, the disks in the ltsp server are SAS drives
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| 21:41 | <Gnoze5> specific features as well
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| 21:42 | <TheMatrix3000_> the disks in the nfs server are SATA
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| 21:42 | I don't see how its really complex because look at this
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| 21:42 | https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html
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| 21:42 | definitely doesn't seem complex
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| 21:42 | <alkisg> Redundancy and centalization => those are the parts that I don't get, unless of course the LTSP server is only a minor part of the infrastructure that accesses the NFS server
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| 21:42 | <TheMatrix3000_> yes
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| 21:43 | <alkisg> TheMatrix3000_: NFS doesn't support all file types, all types of locking etc
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| 21:43 | <TheMatrix3000_> and we are trying to have windows machines access those same directories
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| 21:43 | as smb
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| 21:43 | <alkisg> It is a networked file system that is user-aware, it's bound to be complex - not the configuration part, but the implementation part
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| 21:43 | So e.g. I've seen NFS problems numerous times, with my configuration being correct
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| 21:44 | <TheMatrix3000_> well i can restrict the export to specific machines
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| 21:44 | basically it goes back to my original problem
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| 21:44 | i can't put SATA drives into a SAS system
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| 21:44 | the drive simply do not fit
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| 21:44 | and we don't have teh $$$ to purchase more drives
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| 21:45 | we also have many servers and systems
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| 21:45 | were we could benefit from mounts
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| 21:46 | <TheMatrix3000_> let me put nfs-kernel-server on the current ltsp server
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| 21:46 | and see how well the ubuntu one works
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| 21:47 | and just mount everyones current /home to the new ltsp server
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| 21:47 | just to test
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| 21:52 | fuck
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| 21:52 | i lost connectivity and now i can't access it with a new login damnit...
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| 21:52 | basically the home directory has fucked me
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| 21:52 | lol
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| 21:53 | well it works on my other server
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| 21:57 | well, i was able to get mounting to work and stuff
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| 22:06 | <TheMatrix3000_> crap
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| 22:07 | because i messed up the home directory i can't login anymore
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| 22:07 | got to go to the machine locally and not remotely and remove the mount
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| 22:07 | cause my internet dropped
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| 22:07 | and i lost my current session
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| 22:08 | <Gnoze5> losing the current session is ot good..
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| 22:08 | are you locked out?
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| 22:08 | <TheMatrix3000_> yea
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| 22:08 | until i make it to the office tomorrow
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| 22:08 | unless someone knows how to get in it haha
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| 22:09 | http://pastebin.com/9JEAtELY
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| 22:09 | lol
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| 22:09 | <alkisg> does `ssh user@server ls` work ?
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| 22:11 | <TheMatrix3000_> nope
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| 22:11 | just drops it
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| 22:11 | Unable to create and initialize directory '/home/administrator'.
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| 22:11 | lol
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| 22:11 | <alkisg> Ah you have pam_createhome that fails...
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| 22:11 | <TheMatrix3000_> since i killed the /home/mount on the nfs
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| 22:11 | <alkisg> Or something
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| 22:11 | <TheMatrix3000_> oh, wait
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| 22:12 | i might be able to restore it
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| 22:12 | <alkisg> For next time, do create a user with home outside of /home :D
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| 22:15 | <TheMatrix3000_> nope, didnt work
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| 22:15 | looks like im going to have to visit the office tomorrow
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| 22:20 | well, lots like nfs is awesoem
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| 22:20 | i can control it by host too
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| 22:20 | in the exports file
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| 22:20 | <Gnoze5> instead of going to church..
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| 22:22 | <TheMatrix3000_> i don't go to church
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| 22:22 | dont agree with some beliefs in it
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| 22:23 | <Gnoze5> it was a joke..
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| 22:23 | <TheMatrix3000_> lol
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| 22:23 | <Gnoze5> not a good one apparently!
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| 22:23 | lol
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| 22:24 | <TheMatrix3000_> lol
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| 22:24 | i just realized i have a beer next to me
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| 22:25 | and i opened it but forgot i did
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| 22:25 | <Gnoze5> thats against my beliefs
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| 22:26 | the waste of alcohol
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| 22:26 | TheMatrix3000_ you have to drink it
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| 22:27 | <TheMatrix3000_> i am im chugging it
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| 22:27 | lol
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| 22:32 | hey to fix this unable to get home directory error all i have to to is restart the server right
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| 22:32 | and it wont mount the directory
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| 22:35 | nfs isn't very secure is it lol
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